King James Bible
Genesis 3:7 : And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Sahara African civilization was a big mess. could you imagine Africans were naked even up to the 18th and 19th century? what could be responsible for this lagging behind? is it the food they ate? has anyone carried out research on their environment? what could that be? is it witchcraft because i heard witches are generally against change or development as they want the Status quo.


First contact with civilizations, Africans were rag tags, they walk on barefoot, no well, no toilet, no soap, they fetch and take their bath in the river. they make hut and some of them even slept on trees.


during the trade exploration the white men came in contact with naked Africans. the sad part was that none of them actually knew they were naked.

breast and penis were all over the place. it was really a good place to trade with uncivilized people as they can easily be cheated. they gave them clothes, bed, guns, farming tools, mirror, pot, lamp, umbrella. jug, any kind of tools you can think off. and collect their resources, farm produce, seeds and rubber. it was a good place for trading. the Portuguese really help Africa civilization.



from the content it shows Africans are a thousand years behind.

lemme book space here
the historians are coming to fry you for this piece of garbage

So

blueflowers:
So

reasons i don't bother much on the unending garbage and unbecoming of the black race.

yanshDoctor:
reasons i don't bother much on the unending garbage and unbecoming of the black race.

Are you not black?

I doubt this is true. There may have been some African tribes that were unclad at that time but it doesnt mean all Africans were unclad.
"Unclad" is a relative term by the way. Even the Khoikhoi were using some tiny piece of cloth to cover their pubic region. And they were still backwards compared to the other civilized tribes.
In any case, the presence of nude tribesmen in Africa severely oppugns the bible narrative. Because if "...the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were Unclad; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons", then there shouldnt be so many unclad tribes in Africa and other places since we all came from Adam and Eve and would have inherited their forbidden-fruit-induced repulsion to nudity.

blueflowers:

Are you not black?

even if i'm

yanshDoctor:
even if i'm

Change begins with you.People will learn from you

blueflowers:


Change begins with you.People will learn from you

black race never learn.

yanshDoctor:
black race never learn.

What about you?Don't you learn?

blueflowers:


What about you?Don't you learn?

it should be collective. even if you are the most intelligent being and found yourself among Africans nothing good will come out from it.

if the collective approach is not there you are wasting your time. just enter the street and see are average Africans reasons you will know what i'm talking about.

that collectiveness like let us build modern infrastructure, development and researches, estate and road. the mind of Africans is for today and their self only. Africans have the lowest IQ in the world. even the ones in america are not left out.

yanshDoctor:
reasons i don't bother much on the unending garbage and unbecoming of the black race.

I beg to differ; not all Africans were "unclad" and uncivilized.

There were many African tribes that displayed outstanding innovation, some of them rose up to conquer their neighbours and form empires. Take for example the Bini people of the great benin empire, they built massive walls round the capital city,and were the first to invent street lightening(using oil lamps) even before the UK got its first street lamp.


Many tribes excelled in arts and craft; sculpturing of brass and exotic wood,especially among the Nok and Bini people. Even warfare, like in the case of the Zulu people.


I understand the current socio-political situation in massively pushing people towards afro-pessism, but we should not mis-interprete history.


Some, not all,african people were unclad.

EVarn:
I beg to differ; not all Africans were "unclad" and uncivilized.

There were many African tribes that displayed outstanding innovation, some of them rose up to conquer their neighbours and form empires. Take for example the Bini people of the great benin empire, they built massive walls round the capital city,and were the first to invent street lightening(using oil lamps) even before the UK got its first street lamp.


Many tribes excelled in arts and craft; sculpturing of brass and exotic wood,especially among the Nok and Bini people. Even warfare, like in the case of the Zulu people.


I understand the current socio-political situation in massively pushing people towards afro-pessism, but we should not mis-interprete history.


Some, not all,african people were unclad.

oga why are arw you lying like this

The use of street lighting was first recorded in the city of Antioch from the 4th century. [1] Later it was recorded in the Arab Empire from the 9th–10th centuries, [2] especially in Cordova . [3] In the Middle Ages, so-called " link boys " escorted people from one place to another through the murky winding streets of medieval towns.

Before incandescent lamps, candle lighting was employed in cities. The earliest lamps required that a lamplighter tour the town at dusk, lighting each of the lamps. According to some sources, illumination was ordered in London in 1417 by Sir Henry Barton, Mayor of London though there is no firm evidence of this. [4]

In 1524, Paris house owners were required to have lanterns with candles lit in front of their houses at night, but the law was often ignored. Following the invention of lanterns with glass windows, which greatly improved the quantity of light, in 1594 the police of Paris took charge of installing lanterns in each city neighborhood. Still, in 1662, it was a common practice for travelers to hire a lantern-bearer if they had to move at night through the dark, winding streets. Lantern bearers were still common in Paris until 1789. In 1667, under King Louis XIV , the royal government began installing lanterns on all the streets. There were three thousand in place by 1669, and twice as many by 1729. Lanterns with glass windows were suspended from a cord over the middle of the street at a height of twenty feet and were placed twenty yards apart. A much-improved oil lantern, called a réverbère , was introduced between 1745 and 1749. These lamps were attached to the top of lampposts; by 1817, there were 4694 lamps on the Paris streets. During the French Revolution (1789–1799), the revolutionaries found that the lampposts were a convenient place to hang aristocrats and other opponents.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_light

in the 14century, the Portuguese already trade with Africans. sold lamp and taught them lamp lighting with oil.

the British visit bini 18 century. after Portuguese have exploit the land with trades and civilization. bini empire were early stage probably still naked at the time.

dont try to change history.

yanshDoctor:


oga why are arw you lying like this



in the 14century, the Portuguese already trade with Africans. sold lamp and taught them lamp lighting with oil.

the British visit bini 18 century. after Portuguese have exploit the land with trades and civilization. bini empire were early stage probably still naked at the time.

dont try to change history.

When I say they were the first to invent it, I mean in Africa,and relating it to the UK(the colonialists), Bini indeed had street lamps before they did. Please read my comment with objective scrutiny and intelligence.

EVarn:
When I say they were the first to invent it, I mean in Africa,and relating it to the UK(the colonialists), Bini indeed had street lamps before they did. Please read my comment with objective scrutiny and intelligence.

the UK make use of street light 15th century before venturing bini in late 18th century.

if those Portuguese/Britain traders never made contact with Africans early 14th century, the bini would still be naked till today. that's my point. also not the first is black or sahara africa. the Ethiopian had contact with the east very early before 1st century.

Don't generalize! Some Africans weren't unclad in ancient and medieval times. For example, here in Ethiopia, some ppl worn cotton and lucrative clothes at least as early as 2nd millennium BC.

The Aksumite empire of Ethiopia was among the 3 strongest power at it's peak alongside Roma and Persia. They coined their own Gold and Silver coin currency (only 4 states did this in ancient world) and traded as far as Roma, Egypt, Arabia, India and China.

The below pics are Ethiopians in medieval times.

Hati13:
Don't generalize! Some Africans weren't unclad in ancient and medieval times. For example, here in Ethiopia, some ppl worn cotton and lucrative clothes at least as early as 2nd millennium BC.

The Aksumite empire of Ethiopia was among the 3 strongest power at it's peak alongside Roma and Persia. They coined their own Gold and Silver coin currency (only 4 states did this in ancient world) and traded as far as Roma, Egypt, Arabia, India and China.

The below pics are Ethiopians in medieval times.

yes i have said that before. its was because they had contact with the east very early at the time.

Ethiopians are not really nigro. because if black india and Indonesia are not classified as nigro then they are not.

they are simple combination of proto- Niger–Congo and Middle Eastern genes. people from the east that sail through that ocean had contact with the locals.

yanshDoctor:

yes i have said that before. its was because they had contact with the east very early at the time.

Ethiopians are not really nigro. because if black india and Indonesia are not classified as nigro then they are not.

they are simple combination of proto- Niger–Congo and Middle Eastern genes. people from the east that sail through that ocean had contact with the locals.

They aren't the combination of proto Niger-Congo and Middle Eastern. Almost all are Afroasiatic and this ppl and language originated here in western Ethiopia. Only few of us intermingled with Niger-Congo speakers and Middle Easterners. Most Ethiopians are Cushites and Semiticied Cushites.

Here is an illustration which shows the origin of Afroasiatic and as a result also show that Middle Easterners, Ancient Egyptians, Berbers and Chadics descended from Ethiopia some thousands of years ago.

Hati13:

They aren't the combination of proto Niger-Congo and Middle Eastern. Almost all are Afroasiatic and this ppl and language originated here in western Ethiopia. Only few of us intermingled with Niger-Congo speakers and Middle Easterners. Most Ethiopians are Cushites and Semiticied Cushites.

Here is an illustration which shows the origin of Afroasiatic and as a result also show that Middle Easterners, Ancient Egyptians, Berbers and Chadics descended from Ethiopia some thousands of years ago.

they had contact with white. especially Jews and Persians, Arab and Asia's very early because the India ocean cut across their borders. they were early settlers from the east. like as i heard the men brought beautiful women from other region during that period. that one of the major reason they and Egypt civilized very early. this guys were not sahara negro black.

yanshDoctor:


oga why are arw you lying like this



in the 14century, the Portuguese already trade with Africans. sold lamp and taught them lamp lighting with oil.

the British visit bini 18 century. after Portuguese have exploit the land with trades and civilization. bini empire were early stage probably still naked at the time.

dont try to change history.

Try reading up this book...how Europe underdeveloped Africa...then you'll realize that Africa wasn't backward as you think...

FOR EXAMPLE

Have you asked yourself how the ancient Bini empire operated?
How the craftsmen were able to manipulate bronze and other metals despite their "backwardness"?
Have you bothered to ask why the British looted artifacts from the Bini Empire which remains in British museums up to this very day?
If they were not valuable...why would the white man take them?

OkCornel:


Try reading up this book...how Europe underdeveloped Africa...then you'll realize that Africa wasn't backward as you think...

FOR EXAMPLE

Have you asked yourself how the ancient Bini empire operated?
How the craftsmen were able to manipulate bronze and other metals despite their "backwardness"?
Have you bothered to ask why the British looted artifacts from the Bini Empire which remains in British museums up to this very day?
If they were not valuable...why would the white man take them?

hahahahahahahaha. you wont kill me with laugh. its part of history to kidnapped the Gods of conquered people and their territory. when the Babylon besieged the Israelite they lot all the things found it their temple.

the British learn those things from history.

yanshDoctor:


hahahahahahahaha. you wont kill me with laugh. its part of history to kidnapped the Gods of conquered people and their territory. when the Babylon besieged the Israelite they lot all the things found it their temple.

the British learn those things from history.

And they apply those ancient tactics to earn money in their museums abi?

Bros if it's not profitable or beautiful to them, they'll destroy the artifacts.

That is an evidence to the quality of craftsmanship of our ancestors...

OkCornel:


And they apply those ancient tactics to earn money in their museums abi?

Bros if it's not profitable or beautiful to them, they'll destroy the artifacts.

That is an evidence to the quality of craftsmanship of our ancestors...

what craftmanship are you talking about. those things wont have generated money here. its just the history of conquered places they put it on their museum to tell the story.

check google to see the craft you are talking about compared to craft from Asia, east and Rome even dated back before Benin expire.

not all Africa was naked. The Muslim part of Africa not only wore clothes but produced many intellectuals before contact with Europeans. e.g Timbuktu was a centre of Learning, on a vusit to Sokoto in the 19th century, Clapperton met Sultan Bello reading an Arabic version of Euclid's book on Geometry. etc

yanshDoctor:


what craftmanship are you talking about. those things wont have generated money here. its just the history of conquered places they put it on their museum to tell the story.

check google to see the craft you are talking about compared to craft from Asia, east and Rome even dated back before Benin expire.

The bronze works of the bini kingdom are totally worthless to you...I guess

Binb:
not all Africa was naked. The Muslim part of Africa not only wore clothes but produced many intellectuals before contact with Europeans. e.g Timbuktu was a centre of Learning, on a vusit to Sokoto in the 19th century, Clapperton met Sultan Bello reading an Arabic version of Euclid's book on Geometry. etc

that was late. talking of 14th century to 18th century

OkCornel:


The bronze works of the bini kingdom are totally worthless to you...I guess

not saying they are waste. but just saying compared to craft from the east.

yanshDoctor:
that was late. talking of 14th century to 18th century

Have you heard of Mansa Musa and the Malian Empire he ruled?

Were these ones backward too?

Whitemen told you your forefathers were unclad when they made the first contact and you believed them?
This is what happens when another person is the one telling you your history.

OkCornel:


Have you heard of Mansa Musa and the Malian Empire he ruled?

Were these ones backward too?

he was a Muslim which means he already had contact with people from the middle east. i am talking of Africans that civilized to clothes themselves without contact from outside would. when the bini had contact with Portuguese the early 14th century they civilized from there as well.

otr1:
Whitemen told you your forefathers were unclad when they made the first contact and you believed them?
This is what happens when another person is the one telling you your history.

its in the open domain even as at 19th century some part of Africa were still unclad.

yanshDoctor:
its in the open domain even as at 19th century some part of Africa were still unclad.

Same applies to places like the Amazon forest in Brazil.

There are tribes that are yet to come in contact with the modern world. But that doesn't make you see Brazilians coming out en masse to think their cultural heritage is trash and backward...

The exploits of the ancient past are lost in the sands of time as most of these things were not documented. This applies to Sub-saharan Africa, South America, North America, New Zealand, Australia, Easter Islands e.t.c.