The day america appoint a madman as potus.

MIKOLOWISKA:
do we see ourselves as human beings. What have you done in benue flood, benue killings, benue war. Just benue o. I won't even mention economy. It's not by claiming moral high ground. Actions speak louder than words. They're just accepting FACT NOT OPINION.

Who told you Nigerians don't see themselves as human beings? The people of Benue came together as one to bury their loved ones who were killed? Right now as we speak there are protests going on in Benue - protesting the death of their people. Does that seem to you like people who don't care for each other? Why herdsmen began terrorizing the people of Ekiti - Yoruba hunters organized by Gov. Fayose STOOD UP to the threat and fought them back to defend their people - and YET you claim Nigerians don't see themselves as human beings! I have seen many threads on this nairaland showing Nigerians donating money to strangers, paying for school fees, paying for medical expenses, feeding the hungry, helping to locate lost children, giving scholarship to kids etc. YET you claim Nigerians don't see each others as human beings! Maybe you should be speaking for yourself because there are many Nigerians who are good and kind people; and are doing their best to solve problems in their community.

You can debate the quality of Nigeria's leadership from independence till date. But to accept a racist view of Africans/Nigerians from a racist white man shows you don't even know who you are or who your people are.

planetx:
Rwanda, Botswana,Namibia, Ghana, South Africa, Tanzania etc

apart from Botswana(I haven't confirmed) go and do your research properly,all the rest are shitholes for majority of their ppl. It's just like pointing to Lagos and Abuja and saying Nigeria is doing well. Namibia and South Africa are doing well cos of white ppl there and the black leaders haven't helped the black ppl.

FisifunKododada:


That is not his message. His message is: If you are from Africa we don't want you in America. YET Africans in America have the higher educational achievement that native born Americans. Go to America (I have and you should too if you have the opportunity) and see African doctors, engineers, scientists etc. making huge contributions in that country. You can see his insult as a challenge but that does not mean you should agree with him. If we Africans cannot even separate our friends from our foes - then how can we even improve our conditions? Trump is not a friend of Africa - because he is a racist and its well documented. It seems some of you are supporting him out of frustration about your living conditions. You are allowing the challenges you face everyday to blind you from seeing his hatred for you as a human being. You can disagree with Buhari, GEJ, Obasanjo or any other politician but that does not mean you have to agree with Trump to spite them. This is not a psychologically healthy way to live your life.

You make it look so easy from the way you typed it, people are dying of frustration!, everyone is now familiar with hearing bad news daily especially when it relates to death. How do you deal with the fact that your President had to leave the country for medical treatment?!, isn't this the Giant of Africa?. The fact that you've left the country to a place like U.S automatically ranks you very high compared to most Nigerians (Not the politicians etc) because you've experienced what it means to live! not exist. I know that you don't just pick money on the floor in U.S, you have to work for it, that system is the definition of time is money. Is time really money here? when people are owed like there's no tomorrow and they can do almost nothing about it because they don't have "connection", the basic amenities are nowhere to be found, the so-called leaders would rather build statues for crazy amounts than pay their workers, some are out rightly tribalistic, others use the supposed armed forces as attack dogs on anyone who stands in their way.

I could go on and on but i believe you've already understood what I'm saying. That you're privileged to be above some of these basic challenges doesn't mean that it does not exist, don't turn it into some racism campaign bullsh!t.

Even if he suddenly becomes the best friend of Africa on the media, will it change the living conditions of most Africans? or do you expect a whole continent to migrate to America?

You even called going to U.S an opportunity, what does that tell you?

Is Africa not worse than a shithole? Most especially Nigeria when worse pass Latrine

princechurchill:
The man said the truth no need to be political correct here please... Africa is a shithole continent... Fact!!!!
This one pain them wella

You know how you can call your sibling the greatest idiot (and i do) but a random stranger cannot try it in your presence or how black people can say certain things that white people cannot?

For me personally, this is that. I am allowed to say what he said because it is my country, but a stranger from another land who knows nothing about us and whose country has, in the past or present, contributed to our current situation, they are not allowed to say such.

Hypocritical? ABSOLUTELY but thats how it works

Why are we so pained...

What the man said is the plain truth - African countries are sh1t holes!

Trump is a pfucking Bull in a China shop.

The man like Cyrus is not far from the truth, African leaders , especially Nigerian leaders from d dark past to the present darkest, would get all their ammagedon complete, the wld get it deep and very disastrous for themselves, for all they have turned, this divinely, n naturally blessed continent into, including their suportters, pastors, imams , cleric, politicians , alike, those who have turned a blind eye to the grave atrocities, n denigration dis continent has become, with no conscience , empathy or sensitivity towards it people, yet they fly to such countries as dat of Donald trump to take pictures enjoy life with their faculties which wealth from dis continent has partly funded....curse be unto dem all, curse be into the African union who see all these on a daily basis and yet are quick to fight Donald trump wif no mercy or feelings for their very people in dis part of the world. They are all sitting on gun powders n d explosion wld be so terrible, they would have no place to run to... Africans, Nigerians and many shortchanged part of the African continent wld rise and are rising, they wld face all dis shameless corrupt , and visionless poo heads scumbag African leaders with great fire and fury, from past with demonic records, to presents with more satanic records, all of them, their ammagedon is near. Especially now all is open , and open is all to the world to itself and itself to d world to see , with all connected to all around d would globally...let them continue fooling themselves and fake African unioning.

Iphone5:
Maybe he owes Haiti �� an apology but not any African country..... Africa is a shit-hole especially Nigeria

Haiti is a poo hole too. Search up Haiti online. Haiti has a very corrupt government on top of their high rate of poverty. Haiti is worse than Nigeria in fact

MIKOLOWISKA:


Na by force you must enter the America?
Why not fix the Africa with your educational achievement


Building another man's
countryNot helping your argument.


So you think liberals are your friends
How have they helped you for last 60 years


His job is not to be your friend
It is to be his ppl friend


Is it Obama or Clinton that loves you
Nobody loves you
Even we don't love
ourselveS


We're not agreeing with Trump
We're agreeing with the truth.
So if Trump says the sun is hot we should not agree with him cos he doesn't like us.?
Get sense abeg

but running to the US instead of fixing our continent is abi?

Exactly. People are just being sentimental instead of facing the real issues at hand.

Kingdolo:

To you as african

what have you done as an African that has earned respect. Respect is not automatic. It is earned

eph12:

I can tell you I don't like you but doesn't mean I will like to kill you if given the opportunity.

Trump message is simple: Let our leaders develop Africa. I see it as a challenge to turn this so called shiithole to what we want to pretend it is

guess that dude is not living in Naija. the day I will leave this hell hole ahhhhh.....I will never.....inshort

We Nigerians need to start working for the development of Nigeria despite the type of leaders we have. Those of us who have money can build factories, world class educational faculties, and as well as world class hospitals. We have a part to play in the development of Nigeria.

FisifunKododada:


Who told you Nigerians don't see themselves as human beings?

I doubt it from our behaviour
Herdsmen killing farmers sounds looks smells like animal to me

The people of Benue came together as one to bury their loved ones who were killed?

Who coming together epp

Right now as we speak there are protests going on in Benue - protesting the death of their people.

Who protest epp
Why didn't they protest the herdsmen

Does that seem to you like people who don't care for each other?

Yes
They care for themselves not each other
They don't even care for themselves if not they would've found solution teytey

Why herdsmen began terrorizing the people of Ekiti - Yoruba hunters organized by Gov. Fayose STOOD UP to the threat and fought them back to defend their people - and YET you claim Nigerians don't see themselves as human beings!

Yet he deceiver his ppl to win elections
They're just his maga

I have seen many threads on this nairaland showing Nigerians donating money to strangers, paying for school fees, paying for medical expenses, feeding the hungry, helping to locate lost children, giving scholarship to kids etc. YET you claim Nigerians don't see each others as human beings!

Those are some ppl
Very few
How many Nairalanders
How many donated
Who donation epp as a country
Trade not aid solves more problems
Aid just makes us feel good about ourselves
I know it sounds mean but charity never solves the problem

Maybe you should be speaking for yourself because there are many Nigerians who are good and kind people; and are doing their best to solve problems in their community.

Goodness and kindness
Doesn't develop a nation

You can debate the quality of Nigeria's leadership from independence till date.

There's nothing to debate
Bad things happen cos good ppl let them

But to accept a racist view of Africans/Nigerians from a racist white man shows you don't even know who you are or who your people are.

I repeat we are not at least I am not accepting view, I am accepting fact. Africa IS a SHITHOLE by all measurements.

Beating your chest won't change that, actually developing it will

BRATISLAVA:
Was Trump lying?

...he might not be lying but considering his position you dont say or talk like that...is thesame with you, der are some things you don't comeout to say openly most especially when you hold a leadership position because many look up to you....imagine if it was the blacks in america he say this too

FisifunKododada:


Who told you Nigerians don't see themselves as human beings? The people of Benue came together as one to bury their loved ones who were killed? Right now as we speak there are protests going on in Benue - protesting the death of their people. Does that seem to you like people who don't care for each other? Why herdsmen began terrorizing the people of Ekiti - Yoruba hunters organized by Gov. Fayose STOOD UP to the threat and fought them back to defend their people - and YET you claim Nigerians don't see themselves as human beings! I have seen many threads on this nairaland showing Nigerians donating money to strangers, paying for school fees, paying for medical expenses, feeding the hungry, helping to locate lost children, giving scholarship to kids etc. YET you claim Nigerians don't see each others as human beings! Maybe you should be speaking for yourself because there are many Nigerians who are good and kind people; and are doing their best to solve problems in their community.

You can debate the quality of Nigeria's leadership from independence till date. But to accept a racist view of Africans/Nigerians from a racist white man shows you don't even know who you are or who your people are.

my friend u are getting d young man totally wrong, even if I don't quite agree on how he feels nigerians see each other , it wld be hypocritical to deny certain rhetorics based on Donald trumps statement, he was referring to d African continent remember, n his not far from the truth , so let many of you don't come here playing d racist card, n burying your heads on sands like d ostrich , when d perceived fact is expected to annoy you and depicted towards the scumbags n African leaders n political office holders across board who have ingloriously, brought this continent to such perceived insult...shey you africans are beginning to see that ur "i don care" attitudes, continual silence and lack of political interest for ur country its quickly getting embarrassing and jeopardizal , if I may use dat word...so its enough with you all n dis ur crazy denails and self pity. The question y'all should begin to ask ur selves is , what drastic measures do u intend to take or do about it...Donald trump spoke out because he is vocal, Vladamin Putin, Cameron, Obama, queen of england , d guy in north korea, lots in Europe, d west, n Asia probably thinks the same, cause they have been seeing it as such for decades, especially @ dis current times of peoples desperation to leave d continent, d route from Libya saga comes to ur mind...Africa n Nigeria has a very infectious disease n problem, n it is d kind of people it either supports n allow in very sensitive political n leadership positions in its continent n country, n d kind of mindset most of its people move around with...a mental exodus is vehemently needed.

AntiWailer:


U overated the idiot called Trump and under-estimated his stupidity.

He insulted everybody including Mayor of London.

He insulted Kim several times.

Even his Sec Of State called him a Fckin M0r0n.

Read Fire and Fury, u wont be surprised about what the baby President is capable of doing.

A US Senator called white house Baby Day Care attending to Trump.

He will deny saying "Shiithole" same way he denied Access Hollywood Tape that we all heard and see even after he apologized. Saying it is possible he is not the one.

Watch his supporters as they arrive. They have one thing in common, the lack of the capacity to think.

Watch him closely (speech or any public gathering) and read the Fire and Fury book you will make a conclusion about his mental health on your own.

My Question To U, Is Afrika Nt Really A Shithole?

Word.

Pavore9:
Hot air! But same AU is silent on the misrule many African Countries are under, it is not as if Trump is lying thus the reason many would rather gamble with the Sahara desert and the Mediterranean sea than remain in Africa.

What is the percentage of Africans who feel Africa gives them the best opportunity to actualize their potentials?

The sad truth is that the ones who are really enjoying Africa are non-Africans!

Bullcrap!!! Africa is a SHITHOLE, Haiti is a SHITHOLE, any nation that refuses to grow is a SHITHOLE


#NONSENSE

vaca1:
guess that dude is not living in Naija. the day I will leave this hell hole ahhhhh.....I will never.....inshort

Don't mind them. They don't like people telling them the truth. They are looking for who will continue to deceive them

MIKOLOWISKA:

I doubt it from our behaviour
Herdsmen killing farmers sounds looks smells like animal to me
Who coming together epp
Who protest epp
Why didn't they protest the herdsmen
Yes
They care for themselves not each other
They don't even care for themselves if not they would've found solution teytey
Yet he deceiver his ppl to win elections
They're just his maga
Those are some ppl
Very few
How many Nairalanders
How many donated
Who donation epp as a country
Trade not aid solves more problems
Aid just makes us feel good about ourselves
I know it sounds mean but charity never solves the problem
Goodness and kindness
Doesn't develop a nation
There's nothing to debate
Bad things happen cos good ppl let them
I repeat we are not at least I am not accepting view, I am accepting fact. Africa IS a SHITHOLE by all measurements.
Beating your chest won't change that, actually developing it will

In America white police officers kill innocent people especially Africa Americans ALL THE TIME and guess what? These police officers are almost always never charged with a crime and if they are charged, the majority white jury almost always refuse to convict them. So if you think murderers getting away with killing innocent people because of their tribe or race is ONLY a Nigerian problem - then you need to think again. If you come to America today and a white police officer kills you unjustly, then it is almost guaranteed that he will get away with your murder - partly because he is a police officer and partly because you are black. Killing is killing. Either a Fulani herdsman kills you or a racist white police officer kills you. In both cases its bad - but don't put America on a pedestal out of ignorance.

Donation is part of development. Many good services in the western world are done through private donations. You admit that some Africans help each other - if that is true then how can you agree that Africa is a shithole? A shithole can only produce shi-t yet there is no single day, I don't hear of Africans (despite the heavy challenges) helping and supporting each other. If your eyes can only see problems...and you are blind to people engaging in solutions all around you then there is no way you are going to be part of the solution. Who protest epp? Who coming together epp? Without protests and coming together - it is almost guaranteed that Nigeria might still be in the clutches of military dictatorship. You seem to take protests for granted - who born you well to protest ANYTHING when Abacha was in power?

Fayose STOOD UP to the herdsmen to protect his people YET I will admit he is not perfect. Trump is far far from perfect either YET some of you lots worship him while you denigrate people like Fayose. Why is that? Does Donald Trump skin-color make him intrinsically superior to Fayose?

Charity never solves the problem? To the poor orphan who gets a scholarship from a stranger to complete his education - charity solved his problem. To the young man who got assistance from donations to have the needed surgery for a life threatening disease - charity solved his problem. To the poor bread-seller who was given an opportunity and groomed by people with vision and good heart until she started making a better living as a model - charity solved her problem. I can go on and on... No one is saying charity will solve all the problems - but the argument that Africa is a shithole fails because each and everyday we see Africans helping and supporting each other. Each and everyday.

MIKOLOWISKA:
is there any evidence

There are witnesses.

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FisifunKododada:
Why are some Nigerians supporting Trump so strongly? How can you support a man who does NOT see you as a human being? Let me tell you something that might shock you:- If Trump was offered a good deal for himself that includes wiping out Nigeria with a nuclear bomb as a condition , guess what - Trump will bomb Nigeria out of the earth without hesitation. If you support this man, what does that say about you?

[/s]


shut up my friend, you are talking as if, if they give buhari (your fellow African) that same opportunity to wipe Christians in the south, he wouldn't do it immediately














....rubbish

FisifunKododada:


That is not his message. His message is: If you are from Africa we don't want you in America. YET Africans in America have the higher educational achievement that native born Americans. Go to America (I have and you should too if you have the opportunity) and see African doctors, engineers, scientists etc. making huge contributions in that country. You can see his insult as a challenge but that does not mean you should agree with him. If we Africans cannot even separate our friends from our foes - then how can we even improve our conditions? Trump is not a friend of Africa - because he is a racist and its well documented. It seems some of you are supporting him out of frustration about your living conditions. You are allowing the challenges you face everyday to blind you from seeing his hatred for you as a human being. You can disagree with Buhari, GEJ, Obasanjo or any other politician but that does not mean you have to agree with Trump to spite them. This is not a psychologically healthy way to live your life.

Forget it brother don't get unnecessarily emotional, no one is supporting Trump for having foul mouth. What am against is African Union getting worked up over his statement as if it will make them think of how to make us better. There is nothing wrong in controlling who and who comes into your country, yes! It is his job to control and scrutinize who goes in. Why should Africans and Haitians be given a special pass across the US border? tell me! why! Entry into that country as rightly said should be merit based... If he fears Africans would no longer return if allowed in, he has to deal with it, if he feels Haitians will increase the HIV statistics in America, it is his job to deal with it effectively, if he thinks middle easterners are threats to security he has to deal with it and also if he thinks america is getting overpopulated, he also has to deal with it. There is no point crying foul and trying to score cheap political points here, the man is simply doing his job period.

EazyMoh:
There are witnesses.

witnesses are not proff

CollinsWeGlobe:
Donald Trump still better pass Buhari

quote me wrong and die

We can continue to preach how benevolence or merciful God is, Satan is always there to tell the opposite.

FisifunKododada:


In America white police officers kill innocent people especially Africa Americans ALL THE TIME

17 black men out of thousands is not all the time
Resisting arrest is not innocent

Also more white men killed than black men
Just that CNN need to sell market so they race bait for ratings

and guess what? These police officers are almost always never charged with a crime and if they are charged, the majority white jury almost always refuse to convict them.

Cos the black man had no conclusive evidence
I'm sure you prefer the police leave the gangbangers to kill you for fear of losing their livelihood over stupid black teens

So if you think murderers getting away with killing innocent people because of their tribe or race is ONLY a Nigerian problem - then you need to think again. If you come to America today and a white police officer kills you unjustly,

I wouldn't do anything to justify him
Shouting and cursing a man with a gun is very unwise
Nigerians are not unwise or feel entitled to anything other than free stuff

then it is almost guaranteed that he will get away with your murder - partly because he is a police officer and partly because you are black.

Just saw a black criminal get 15 million dollars from white police for paralysing him while committing a crime so allow us here word. You age the racist accusing white ppl with no evidence

Killing is killing. Either a Fulani herdsman kills you or a racist white police officer kills you. In both cases its bad - but don't put America on a pedestal out of ignorance.

I put America on a pedestal cos if battle rustlers killed Cowboys they do something about it instead of lamenting.
That's why they have second amendment
To treat fuckups

Donation is part of development. Many good services in the western world are done through private donations.

I didn't say they were bad
Just that they are not sustainable and don't solve the problem to any great degree

You admit that some Africans help each other - if that is true then how can you agree that Africa is a shithole? A shithole can only produce shi-t yet there is no single day, I don't hear of Africans (despite the heavy challenges) helping and supporting each other.

Which you think Africans prefer
Other Africans help or visa to america?

If your eyes can only see problems...and you are blind to people engaging in solutions all around you then there is no way you are going to be part of the solution.

Where d solution
Just mention 3 to clarify my blindness
Just 3

Who protest epp?

Teargas last last

Who coming together epp?

Protest is not coming together o
I didn't mention coming together
In fact who coming together epp
It's doing together we need not coming together

Without protests and coming together - it is almost guaranteed that Nigeria might still be in the clutches of military dictatorship.

Story
His ppl (the doers) got rid of him when he got too big for his britches

You seem to take protests for granted - who born you well to protest ANYTHING when Abacha was in power?

My point exactly
Protest doesn't solve anythin
It may lead to solution o but you can skip protest and go straight to solution in my view

Fayose STOOD UP to the herdsmen to protect his people YET I will admit he is not perfect.

No he stood up to look like hero for 2019 which is a genius move but not to protect anybody but himself

Trump is far far from perfect either YET some of you lots worship him while you denigrate people like Fayose. Why is that? Does Donald Trump skin-color make him intrinsically superior to Fayose?

We don't worship Trump
We just agree with him
Not the same thing
Can you point to desirable country that black skin colour has made?

Charity never solves the problem? To the poor orphan who gets a scholarship from a stranger to complete his education - charity solved his problem.

His problem
What of the other million almajiris
THE problem not HIS problem take note

To the young man who got assistance from donations to have the needed surgery for a life threatening disease - charity solved his problem.

What about the millions more that died cos we have no health insurance schemes. Private health insurance o not govt

To the poor bread-seller who was given an opportunity and groomed by people with vision and good heart until she started making a better living as a model - charity solved her problem.

That was not charity
Somebody making money of her
UHats why hers is sustainable

I can go on and on...

So can I

No one is saying charity will solve all the problems -

I'm not saying capitalism will either but it solves more problems than socialism and charity combined

but the argument that Africa is a shithole fails because each and everyday we see Africans helping and supporting each other. Each and everyday.

it succeeds cos Africans risk death humiliation and slavery to escape from it

Trendishine:
my friend u are getting d young man totally wrong, even if I don't quite agree on how he feels nigerians see each other , it wld be hypocritical to deny certain rhetorics based on Donald trumps statement, he was referring to d African continent remember, n his not far from the truth , so let many of you don't come here playing d racist card, n burying your heads on sands like d ostrich , when d perceived fact is expected to annoy you and depicted towards the scumbags n African leaders n political office holders across board who have ingloriously, brought this continent to such perceived insult...shey you africans are beginning to see that ur "i don care" attitudes, continual silence and lack of political interest for ur country its quickly getting embarrassing and jeopardizal , if I may use dat word...so its enough with you all n dis ur crazy denails and self pity. The question y'all should begin to ask ur selves is , what drastic measures do u intend to take or do about it...Donald trump spoke out because he is vocal, Vladamin Putin, Cameron, Obama, queen of england , d guy in north korea, lots in Europe, d west, n Asia probably thinks the same, cause they have been seeing it as such for decades, especially @ dis current times of peoples desperation to leave d continent, d route from Libya saga comes to ur mind...Africa n Nigeria has a very infectious disease n problem, n it is d kind of people it either supports n allow in very sensitive political n leadership positions in its continent n country, n d kind of mindset most of its people move around with...a mental exodus is vehemently needed.

I am not debating the peculiar challenges facing Africa and Africans - it is clear for all to see. What I question is the tagging of Africa as a shithole continent. What Trump is saying is that if you are from Africa you are INTRINSICALLY shi-t. INTRINSICALLY! Think about that for a second. Do you consider yourself shi-t? Do you consider your father, mother, siblings, children shi-ts? Trump did not say Africa has some serious challenges that makes their life difficult. He is saying the entire continent and all the people in it are WORTHLESS and hence he does not want them to come near America. This is not only racist but abjectly false statement. And if you are still seeing the word AFRICANS as an abstract concept - remember that YOU are an African. So let me ask you this - do you think it is okay for people to start calling you shi-t from now on? When you see your father call him sh-it. When you see your mother call her shi-t. When you see your children call them shit-s because according to your white master Trump they are shi-ts.

FisifunKododada:


A shithole should ONLY produce shit. So if Africa is a shit hole then how do you explain the good people and good things that have come out of Africa? How do you explain Nelson Mandela? Wole Soyinka? Wangari Mathai? Nkrumah? Chinua Achebe? Nadine Gordimer? Nurudin Farrah? Tsitsi Dangarembga? Gani Fawehimi? just to name a few. What about the Nigerian doctors (RIP Dr. Ameyo Adadevoh - she died fighting Ebola to protect her fellow Nigerians) who gallantly defeated Ebola saving millions of lives including yours? just to name a few.

you forgot this names
... buhari, abacha, Mugabe, indi amin, gabgo etc

naijapips04:
Keep blaming Trump for saying the truth.

CNN call Africa 3rd world countries. Trump call Africa shit holes. Tell me what's the difference?

Many Nigerians here have called Nigeria worse. No need to be politically correct about it, Africa is a Shit hole and Nigeria is a zoo.

If it had become reality, that includes your Biafra.

kodded:

you forgot this names
... buhari, abacha, Mugabe, indi amin, gabgo etc

And you forget Hiltler, Mao, Stalin, the KKK, George Bush, etc. Just to name a few