jelel6:



with what you said here, I still think you're emphasizing the point the guy you quoted made.

Olamide should be more popular quite alright. but for what? songs like shakitibobo, Goons Mi, and the likes way I no even care to know sef. Bro, all those songs are not Rap. people might say no be music sef. all the real rappers in 9ja be like underground artists - vector comes to mind.

popularity doesn't make you a better rapper. I've not heard a rap song from our so called popular rappers for ages.

for instance, Drake is more popular and richer and sells more records than Kendrick Lamar or j Cole. are you going to say drake is the better rapper because of this?

This topic is about who is more popular or relevant, it has nothing to do with who is better! Rakim was a better rapper than B.I.G and Nas but definitely not as popular. Forget about the dialect or the language of the rap/what the artiste are doing now; once a rapper always a rapper. Go and listen to voice of the streets, Ilefo Iluminati and tell me those were whack raps because it did not conform to traditional hip hop style.....bullsh*t!

But cassper no be God nah

LZAA:

lol
ur comment is just like comparing nelly to taylor swift
of course taylor swift will win in sales and fanbase
hip hop has many branches and cass was referring to pure hip hop not pop rap like sum of d sounds u hear from drake,phyno and olamide who started as rappers
there is no pure hip hop in naija again and if we are to use ur comment as a yardstick it will be a long time before it returns

Cass generalized and hence is guilty of that fallacy. You said the right thing, hip hop has many branches, to say Nigerian rappers are not aS popular or relevant because they chose another branch different from Cass is just plain WRONG! Pure hardcore rap is dying and even the greatest of rappers like Eminem, Jay Z and so on had to mix in a little bit of modern pop just to sell their albums. Cass reminds me of Mode 9, very good flow but in the end, you remain stuck in the little pure rap fan base that remains.

DrOkoroafor:
Yes, South-African Hip-Hop Is In The Forefront In General. Nigerian Rappers Are Kinda Unknown In SA – Cassper Nyovest

Prior to winning best Hip-hop at SoundCity MVP. South African rapper, Refiloe Phoolo famously known as Cassper Nyovest, had an exclusive interview with Joey Akan of PulseNG, where he talked about African Hip-hop in general and the state of Hip-hop in Nigeria.

Commenting on the controversial 2017 single “You Rappers Should Fix Up Your Lives” where M.I Abaga admitted that South African rappers are dominating the Hip-hop scene in Africa. Cassper agrees with M.I Abaga, stating as quoted:

“Yes, South African Hip-hop is in the forefront of African Hip-hop in general. It might not be as popular as it is in South Africa in Nigeria. But I know for a fact that the rappers from Nigeria are kinda unknown in SA,” he says

“If we talk about crossing over, I know that a lot of people in Nigeria know about my music. I know that in Kenya and Ghana it’s the same thing.

“I’m not just talking about me, I’m talking about the movement. Sarkodie is big in Ghana, but are there other rappers who are as big as Sarkodie from Ghana? The South African Hip-hop movement is big across, also in London, New York…we are out there performing in different countries.”

Cassper also confessed the topic is controversial as he tried to explain his point further. “Me saying that might offend people here. They might feel that I’m taking shots at Nigerian music. But that’s not the deal. If we are to discuss in terms of numbers and appeal across the world, it’s just the way it is.”

Well, Cassper Nyovest is quite right saying this topic is controversial. But it is also advisable to note that everything he said in the interview are facts. South Africa is in the forefront of African Hip-hop, and Nigerian rappers are unknown in South Africa.

Peep the source for more details.

SOURCE

God will bear me witness, i have never heard of this guy in my life. It was after that award i got to know Him. When i first saw his name on the internet, i thought he was one model like that, na he is talk from His anus rabbisshh!!!!

abbey621:


Cass generalized and hence is guilty of that fallacy. You said the right thing, hip hop has many branches, to say Nigerian rappers are not aS popular or relevant because they chose another branch different from Cass is just plain WRONG! Pure hardcore rap is dying and even the greatest of rappers like Eminem, Jay Z and so on had to mix in a little bit of modern pop just to sell their albums. Cass reminds me of Mode 9, very good flow but in the end, you remain stuck in the little pure rap fan base that remains.

rap and pop have always gone 2geda
even rap's golden age had bits of pop
big on mj's history,2pac and jodeci,big n total
pure rap is in a bad place in naija right now
we have too many drakes n few kendricks

Mode9 is better than all SA rappers combined

DrOkoroafor:
Yes, South-African Hip-Hop Is In The Forefront In General. Nigerian Rappers Are Kinda Unknown In SA – Cassper Nyovest

Prior to winning best Hip-hop at SoundCity MVP. South African rapper, Refiloe Phoolo famously known as Cassper Nyovest, had an exclusive interview with Joey Akan of PulseNG, where he talked about African Hip-hop in general and the state of Hip-hop in Nigeria.

Commenting on the controversial 2017 single “You Rappers Should Fix Up Your Lives” where M.I Abaga admitted that South African rappers are dominating the Hip-hop scene in Africa. Cassper agrees with M.I Abaga, stating as quoted:

“Yes, South African Hip-hop is in the forefront of African Hip-hop in general. It might not be as popular as it is in South Africa in Nigeria. But I know for a fact that the rappers from Nigeria are kinda unknown in SA,” he says

“If we talk about crossing over, I know that a lot of people in Nigeria know about my music. I know that in Kenya and Ghana it’s the same thing.

“I’m not just talking about me, I’m talking about the movement. Sarkodie is big in Ghana, but are there other rappers who are as big as Sarkodie from Ghana? The South African Hip-hop movement is big across, also in London, New York…we are out there performing in different countries.”

Cassper also confessed the topic is controversial as he tried to explain his point further. “Me saying that might offend people here. They might feel that I’m taking shots at Nigerian music. But that’s not the deal. If we are to discuss in terms of numbers and appeal across the world, it’s just the way it is.”

Well, Cassper Nyovest is quite right saying this topic is controversial. But it is also advisable to note that everything he said in the interview are facts. South Africa is in the forefront of African Hip-hop, and Nigerian rappers are unknown in South Africa.

Peep the source for more details.

SOURCE

Hip up abi? Ok! Davido, Wizkid fit even sign you for label self, pay you better money so that u go shut. . . Your name sounds like a kind of equipment in our Lab.

Anyone saying negative things about this is not a hip pop fan as good music can come from anywhere... don't argue with me ask M.I.

LZAA:

rap and pop have always gone 2geda
even rap's golden age had bits of pop
big on mj's history,2pac and jodeci,big n total
pure rap is in a bad place in naija right now
we have too many drakes n few kendricks

You said they've always gone together and I disagree! By pop I'm assuming we are talking about modern pop, the kind that blossomed in the 1990s and early 2000s. Imagine Rakim featuring Justin Timberlake or Nas in his prime featuring Justin Bieber, it's a sin man, SIN

Anyways real rap crumbled with the deaths of Pac and Big, Eminem tried to bring it back but the music industry is in love with all these softies. Niggaz chose to get paid than to stick with pure rap, I can't blame them much tho

abbey621:


You said they've always gone together and I disagree! By pop I'm assuming we are talking about modern pop, the kind that blossomed in the 1990s and early 2000s. Imagine Rakim featuring Justin Timberlake or Nas in his prime featuring Justin Bieber, it's a sin man, SIN

Anyways real rap crumbled with the deaths of Pac and Big, Eminem tried to bring it back but the music industry is in love with all these softies. Niggaz chose to get paid than to stick with pure rap, I can't blame them much tho

so im guessing u didn't hear jodeci or michael(the king of pop)
oh btw rap(pure rap) started declining around 07 not after pac and big
u had songs like
hate me now -nas
dangerous,put ur hands-busta
what's happenin-methodman
izzo,big pimpin,song cry-jayz
not to mention other pure rap hits from their deaths to 07
notice how i didnt call weezy cuz most of d new breed science students rappers followed his lead
oh and long as cats like cole,k dot,montana are around pure rap is still alive

LZAA:

so im guessing u didn't hear jodeci or michael(the king of pop)
oh btw rap(pure rap) started declining around 07 not after pac and big
u had songs like
hate me now -nas
dangerous,put ur hands-busta
what's happenin-methodman
izzo,big pimpin,song cry-jayz
not to mention other pure rap hits from their deaths to 07
notice how i didnt call weezy cuz most of d new breed science students rappers followed his lead
oh and long as cats like cole,k dot,montana are around pure rap is still alive

which montana are referring to? Hope no be french montana

abbey621:


This topic is about who is more popular or relevant, it has nothing to do with who is better! Rakim was a better rapper than B.I.G and Nas but definitely not as popular. Forget about the dialect or the language of the rap/what the artiste are doing now; once a rapper always a rapper. Go and listen to voice of the streets, Ilefo Iluminati and tell me those were whack raps because it did not conform to traditional hip hop style.....bullsh*t!

yes, the topic is who is more popular and relevant. But popular and Big as what? not afro-pop, but hip hop.

even though your argument about Rakim being a better rapper than Nas and B.I.G is debatable, I'll take your word for it for the sake of argument.

But at least, it is a fair comparison. they are all Rappers and Hip Hop, strictly. it is like comparing three Rakims or Biggies Or Nasses, at the end, they are all doing Pure Hip Hop. there is no drake among them who appeal to pop and RnB fans to skew the popularity contest.

Casper was talking about popularity as a hip hop movement or mover, not some rapper who sings on Afro beats and do afro pop.

Shakitibobo is more popular and appreciated than any rap song you think olamide has. I may well ask, is olamide not more pop and Afro beat than Hip Hop?

noob03saibot:
which montana are referring to? Hope no be french montana

looooolz no
montana of 300
check him out

noob03saibot:
which montana are referring to? Hope no be french montana

Bros me self fear ohh, I nearly fall for bed when I heard Montana. all this mainstream rappers sef.

jelel6:


yes, the topic is who is more popular and relevant. But popular and Big as what? not afro-pop, but hip hop.

even though your argument about Rakim being a better rapper than Nas and B.I.G is debatable, I'll take your word for it for the sake of argument.

But at least, it is a fair comparison. they are all Rappers and Hip Hop, strictly. it is like comparing three Rakims or Biggies Or Nasses, at the end, they are all doing Pure Hip Hop. there is no drake among them who appeal to pop and RnB fans to skew the popularity contest.

Casper was talking about popularity as a hip hop movement or mover, not some rapper who sings on Afro beats and do afro pop.

Shakitibobo is more popular and appreciated than any rap song you think olamide has. I may well ask, is olamide not more pop and Afro beat than Hip Hop?

Tell me how many pure hip hop fans do you think remains in the entire world? How about Nigeria alone? When someone calls you out in terms of popularity saying, "you are unknown in their country and around the world", do you think he was truly referring to pure hip hop fans or in general? come on now, let's not be blatantly sentimental!

LZAA:

so im guessing u didn't hear jodeci or michael(the king of pop)
oh btw rap(pure rap) started declining around 07 not after pac and big
u had songs like
hate me now -nas
dangerous,put ur hands-busta
what's happenin-methodman
izzo,big pimpin,song cry-jayz
not to mention other pure rap hits from their deaths to 07
notice how i didnt call weezy cuz most of d new breed science students rappers followed his lead
oh and long as cats like cole,k dot,montana are around pure rap is still alive

I beg to differ again, jayz, busta rhymes and even Nas had to mix in modern pop in other to stay relevant, they started out big and true but after 2000 they had to adapt. Big pimpin is definitely a credit to pure rap but compare it to Numb or even his latest album, it' not hard to see that pure rap is DEAD and BURIED!

FACT: Rap originates from US, right? Now it is an International Genre, when you perform it for sure it will have US elements but it is a big lie for one to say SA artist are US wannabes. Because SA rap itself is unique and of high quality and its only less exposure. Cassper is honest and on point and not trying to offend, so I think Hip-hop or music heads will handle this post better. Even Davido Congratulated Cassper for filling up FNB Stadium, even when Hip Hop is not no 1 genre in SA. That shows how South African are matured when it comes to music.

lascopes:
Every club in southy bang to the tunes of naija rappers...even most clubs in Pretoria are owned by naija boys. Who no go no know��‍♂️

name those clubs please!!!

abbey621:


Tell me how many pure hip hop fans do you think remains in the entire world? How about Nigeria alone? When someone calls you out in terms of popularity saying, "you are unknown in their country and around the world", do you think he was truly referring to pure hip hop fans or in general? come on now, let's not be blatantly sentimental!

I'm the last person to be sentimental, really. Casper mentioned Hip Hop as it relates to African rappers. I'm only sticking to what he said and not presume anything else. He Mentioned SA Hip Hop and rappers, so I'm assuming he's referring to pure Hip Hop Fans, which is the home Base of any rapper worth His salt.

jelel6:


I'm the last person to be sentimental, really. Casper mentioned Hip Hop as it relates to African rappers. I'm only sticking to what he said and not presume anything else. He Mentioned SA Hip Hop and rappers, so I'm assuming he's referring to pure Hip Hop Fans, which is the home Base of any rapper worth His salt.

You're not being sentimental at all, not at all

wait!!!...people catching feelings all because Cassper told the truth?

we gotta do better in 2018

abbey621:


I beg to differ again, jayz, busta rhymes and even Nas had to mix in modern pop in other to stay relevant, they started out big and true but after 2000 they had to adapt. Big pimpin is definitely a credit to pure rap but compare it to Numb or even his latest album, it' not hard to see that pure rap is DEAD and BURIED!

hmmm pure rap dead?
in nigeria maybe but worldwide?naaaahhhh

itchie:
He is right. How can we dominate rap when we celebrate wack noisemakers like olamide, phyno, lil kesh and small doctor? People who can't even string two proper English sentences together and whose only expertise is coming up with stupid and vulgar slangs. This mediocre rappers can't even get beyond west Africa with their rubbish music. We relegate real talented rappers like M.I to the background and celebrate quack rappers and expect to be taken serious by others? It can't work

use of language is key in hip hop, not English language my dear.

SpareNo1:
You're the only sensible person on this thread. Nigerians are too emotional. Casper said nothing but the truth. There's no rapper/hip hop artist in Nigeria right now. It's sad. 'Talk about it' is among the last set of hiphop album in nigeRia

. Dude,listen to Boogey

Godhand04:
the people screaming..''we don't knw u'' seem pained. He's telling truth tho.. Somebody should name one nigerian rapper that can rub shoulders with Nasty C.............anyone??

. I'm not a big fan of Nasty C's lyrics but I so much love and respect his flow and versatility. And as for the comparison,have you listened to Boogey?

LZAA:

hmmm pure rap dead?
in nigeria maybe but worldwide?naaaahhhh

Name 3 pure rap artiste with albums in the Billboard top 100 in terms of sales? Ok ok name 2? lol...dead and buried!

abbey621:


You're not being sentimental at all, not at all

very funny, and witty diversion. I give you that.

A Nigerian who thinks Casper was wrong plays the sentiment card on another Nigerian who think he was right.
the perfect irony!

jelel6:


very funny, and witty diversion. I give you that.

A Nigerian who thinks Casper was wrong plays the sentiment card on another Nigerian who think he was right.
the perfect irony!

I don't think he was wrong, I just believe he generalized. If he had specified pure hip hop and relevancy like you clearly articulated instead of popularity, I wouldn't even argue...lol

We celebrate noise maker we called rappers here while d real rappers like Mode9, MI and co are left on 1corner

abbey621:


Name 3 pure rap artiste with albums in the Billboard top 100 in terms of sales? Ok ok name 2? lol...dead and buried!

You must be very stupid okay. Your comments are childish & pointless. Who are you trying to impress with your comments? Wey you no want hear word.
Nonsense.
You know nothing about RAP so keep shut.

I know them, from Aka to Nasty C, Emtee. Ricky Ricky... They are just good as hell...And mind u guys. He only said they are better of in hip hop

We Nigerians are not sincere with ourselves that is the reason why we are still backward... SOUTH AFRICA Hip-Hop is far far beyond Nigeria reach.. An unbaised nigerian speaking