Feraz:
Poorly equipped military yet, they waged war against the British for close to 40 years. The Binis have never claimed to conquer Igboland or fight them unlike when of recent, Lagos and Ado-Ekiti were being debated. I really do wonder where you get your history from. Isn't it Maclatunji, the one who enjoys twisting things to suit his purpose?

LOL! Of a truth, the narrative has been making sense.

On the contrary, I think the Nok culture (from which it was claimed the Yoruba and Bini culture are an offshoot of it) was the oldest in present day Nigeria.

scholes0:


What is so Igbotic about Oyinbo and Akara?
Lol Akara that is the favorite food of was it Sango or one of these 14th century Yoruba figures.
Ogiri is under contention. That one might be an actual shared word from antiquity like Iba.


What is the Igbo word for masquerade?

sapientia:


If i tell you to stop rewiring my brain with this your Tunde and Emeka now, you will starting talking humaniod and ETs again..

But seriously.. aside the comedy i enjoy in your Matrix posts... your Tunde and Emeka is an intelligent piece... let me simply get female names and start mine.. All these undue hatred and jealousy must end this 2018.

BabaIbo:


it's called mmanwu...

can you tell me the Yoruba word for Rice

maestroferddi:
We really need to look into African history which was majorly written by Europeans.

It appears Igbos must have influenced Yorubas one way or the other because the frequency of etymological similarities is rather curious ...

Ogwu and ogun - medicine

Iba is clearly a traditional Igbo word for malaria...If Yorubas use it, they are doing borrow borrow...

maclatunji:


The report I quoted states thousands. That's almost the equivalent of millions by today's standards. I call it 'subjugation', you call it 'kidnapping'.

Is it even possible for Igbos to kidnap Igbos, move them to the coastlines to be sold to Europeans in places they do not control?

That is where access to the sea comes in. Igbos did not dislike themselves enough to sell the number of slaves that were taken out of Igboland, it was not kidnapping too. The only rational explanation, is a superior force raiding Igboland for a very long time. It wasn't the Nupe nor Yoruba, it had to be your immediate neighbours, the Bini.

maclatunji:


Hehehehe.. Please tell me more about the British-Igbo war. #LWKMD

BabaIbo:



sharap it was as a result of igbos presence... take it or leave it... there are traditional medicines you borrow from other tribes and as time goes on, you convert it to your own, that's the case of bitter leave... what yoruba call ewuro is that anything or substance that is bitter... lol, don't call it English adage, it's yoruba adage please...

FYI Igbos are the one known to use it for soup n medicine, yorubas borrowed the medicinal part...


Ojooo o!!! you don't know anything, your head is empty, do research please

maclatunji:


You have not noticed? Too bad.

scholes0:


Baba probz I have always known you to be someone that diacusses on a high level of brain power (Intellectual discusser), so me and you can’t have any long lasting issues.
Lets just try to iron some few things out and we will be fine - unlike some others on this thread.
Honestly, I am not trying to psych you up or anything.

Egwu as I know it to be isn’t a general igbo word, am I right?
I thought Igbos generally call masquerades Mmanwu? Similar to the word Mmuo (spirits)?

Egwu/Egun is of Yoruboid origin meaning masquerades , spirits or ancestors.

somegirl1:


1. You contradict yourself. Did you not in an earlier post allude to the fact that Igbos lived I'm autonomously in dispersed communities? If How then might a sense of oneness have been established between an Igbo community in Owerri and another in Abakiliki. Igbo groups did not identify as Igbo until fairly recently.
2. The word subjugate means to "bring under domination or control, especially by conquest.",
conquer, vanquish, defeat, crush, quell, quash, gain mastery over, gain ascendancy over, gain control of, bring under the yoke, bring to heel, bring someone to their knees, overcome, overpower, hegemonize etc.
I ask you once again to prove that Igbos were "subjugated" using the tests I mentioned earlier.
E.g. Modern English includes a mix of Anglo-saxon, Latin and Frankish words which demonstrates how the language was influenced by conquerors and settlers.
Scotland Gaelic is a secondary, rarely spoken language in Scotland due to years of English rule. Many Scottish names and place names have been replaced with English names.
I'm going too far. Africa is a prime example of the effects of subjugation with the residues of colonialism littered across the continent.

Can you point to any residues of Bini subjugation in Igbo land today?

scholes0:

Rice is Iresi in Yoruba via English.
While Igbos use a borrowed Hausa term.

OMANBALA1:


Yes, we didnt notice anything thats why we want you that is an expert in Igbo and Bini culture to educate us.

Mr yoruba is superior to Igbo.

Africans like you is the reason why the continent is so backward...You should be castrated because you are worthless to the African continent.

BabaIbo:



this is same thing I was saying the other time and some people here were saying I fall hand

nko in igbo and nko in yoruba...

from what he typed here if someone is arguing with him will you know the guy is talking about

for that girl that types in red font and laydoh can you see that my silence to you guys was as a result of the low insight you people have....

scholes0

egwu has numerous meaning in igbo, e.g dance deadly
fright, horror
music, panic
alarming, be afraid
concert, dangerously
fears, dances
orchestra, terrible
fear, formidable
earthshaking, threatened
fearsome, tracks
awesome, be scared
terrific, afraid
alarmingly, frightened...


let me ask you which tribe owns that infamous sound "ehn ehn"?

I bet you will say yoruba in your deluded mind or believe

maclatunji:


I have always said it that there was no great Igbo civilization before colonization. It was the weaker communities that were being captured and sold into slavery. The implication of this is that the Benin Empire and its auxiliaries dominated the Igbo region during the 17th-18th century and in all likelihood a longer period before then.

laydoh:
guy,i swear ur i.q is blw 20,must u tlk everytime?lol,saying everything dat z bitter is called ewuro,wat is kikoro den? sori 4 any sort of insult oo.

maclatunji:


Never said that, just told you historical facts. There were many Yorubas sold into slavery but the conditions were different.

ogbeniolola:
These people don't even know their origin any more!....they trace their origin to anything and everything; initially they said the earliest igbos had jewish blood; later they traced their blood to afonja and someday they will soon realize that they had fulani blood!!

djon78:



Don't mind him at all. People will come here spreading falsehood. He claims that other tribes dominated igbos but there is no evidence of there domination in igbo culture.

All these ancient empires they were claiming were very backward. No written language, inventions, philosophies etc which we use to know impactful empires.

They claim Benin empire was great, how impactful were they.

The only impactful empire as far as Nigeria is concerned is the uthman danfodios Fulani empire. Highly organized and we'll structured and funny thing they are the ones still controling Nigeria today, because of the sound structure bequeathed to them. they should show us the influence of Benin and oyo empire they claim on today's Nigeria or should stop making noise.

BabaIbo:


borrowed hausa language, lol... guy you funny

osikapa,..... shinkafa

which one is borrowed to you?

scholes0:


Yes you are right, borrowing is a deature of languages world over, but you won’t see any Yoruba claiming Ugu is a Yoruba word.
Some Igbos here however want to lay exclusive claim to words they actually borrowed from Yoruba.

They arent even saying it is shared, they are claiming to own them

This shouldn’t be about ego, but facts.

scholes0:


Yes you are right, borrowing is a deature of languages world over, but you won’t see any Yoruba claiming Ugu is a Yoruba word.
Some Igbos here however want to lay exclusive claim to words they actually borrowed from Yoruba.

They arent even saying it is shared, they are claiming to own them

This shouldn’t be about ego, but facts.

Chukazu:


Your claim on borrowed words is completely unverifiable and unsubstantiated

scholes0:


I would say Yorubas own ehn ehn because it ends in a Nasal vowel.
So many of my Igbo friends cant even pronounce such Yoruba words right. Some call Funmi : Fumi and call Akin: Aki ... Lol

Are those the same people than want to clain ehhn ehn?

Only Edos can pronunce those Yoruba terms without an accent or deformation.

Besides, the pronunciation of the Yoruboid Egwú is different from Egwu (dance) / (danger) you listed up there. They are therefore not the same words going by the rules of tonal languages.

maclatunji:


Yes, they were autonomous and even when they fought had enough reasons to end the battles quickly. Yorubas fought wars for about 100 years. Igbos did that?

Let me break it down for you:

Village UmuX with total population of 500 fights Village Umu Y with total population of 700. The winning side has maybe 100 captives maximum. The location of the battle is 12 days from the coast, battles take place once every 10 years because quite frankly both or similar villages cannot afford to battle too much.

Is this the kind of paltry return that fuelled thousands of Igbo slaves being sold across the Americas? Nope.

BabaIbo:


I think this will help you to know better, who owns it

buskie13:
no pictures and it's already on FP

BabaIbo:


I think this will help you to know better, who owns it

scholes0:


Spelling is not the crux of the matter but pronunciation.

Nothing like Kpomo spelling in Igbo form, because the word isn’t even Igbo to begin with.

DemonInSiege:



Mr. Man na you mentioned kpomo here and na you dey argue with yourself,
[b]No one said kpomo is Igbo here[/] but you're bringing it just to deraile this thread

scholes0:


I would say Yorubas own ehn ehn because it ends in a Nasal vowel.
So many of my Igbo friends cant even pronounce such Yoruba words right. Some call Funmi : Fumi and call Akin: Aki ... Lol

Are those the same people than want to clain ehhn ehn?

Only Edos can pronunce those Yoruba terms without an accent or deformation.

Besides, the pronunciation of the Yoruboid Egwú is different from Egwu (dance) / (danger) you listed up there. They are therefore not the same words going by the rules of tonal languages.