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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chikkaobi(m): 12:32pm On Feb 05, 2018
I have 230w x4 Solar panel.
I need a 3000w+ 12v inverter with low standby consumption watt, possibly an hybrid with internal MPPT Solar Charge Controller.
Any suggestions?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 12:36pm On Feb 05, 2018
chikkaobi:
I have 230w x4 Solar panel.
I need a 3000w+ 12v inverter with low standby consumption watt, possibly an hybrid with internal MPPT Solar Charge Controller.
Any suggestions?

I can assist if you were interested in a 24v/3000w hybrid inverter system "inbuilt mppt" ...see signature for contact . Cheer's
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 2:39pm On Feb 05, 2018
mank1234:


The yield is impressive.
I'm wondering why folks would prefer to spend almost double on brands like solarworld!

Barezzi:
Quality? tongue


I have since learnt not to buy these so called high quality high-tech equipment where cheaper equivalents exist.

The quality @Barezzi mentioned as reason to buy high priced brands translates into two factors; performance and longevity.

Performance of top brands might be better than their Chinco equivalent on the surface but when you factor in price differentials the story might change. I most cases, performance difference is not more than 20% (where it exist) but price difference is in the order of 30-100%. On this point, one is therefore better off buying the cheaper Chinco version.

Longevity on the other hand is also not a very good factor to consider when buying High-Tech gadgets. Today's state-of-the-art gadgets will be obsolete in one or two years. While the equipment might still work very well, the allure for improved performance and better features will force you to drop the equipment long before it's end of life. If I may ask, how many people are still using that expensive, durable Nokia 3310 we all bought back then? New technologies have since forced us to retire it despite the fact that it is still working perfectly well.

One of the main limitation of Solar Panel deployment is space. I give you a practical example. More than ten years ago, I purchased and installed my first set of Solar Panels. They were 4units, 80W mono panel. Very expensive state-of-the-art panels for those days. Three years ago, I decide to upgrade because Solar panels have become cheaper, more efficient and smaller. I purchase 6units 300W Chinco (Roysolar) panels. Although my old panels were still working very well, I got rid of them because of space inefficiency and backward incompatibility. The space occupied by the old 320W panels is now sufficient to mount 900W of the new panels. Who knows what will be available in another 10years? Most of us in the forum will gladly get rid of our current "expensive" panel if a new technology suddenly appears that shrinks the size of the panel by half. This will allow for installation of more wattage on the same space.

With my Chinco panels, I have harvested more than 10MWh and it is still going strong with an efficiency of over 4kwh/kw on a sunny day. How many people with the high priced panels have efficiencies that is better than that?

If you are just venturing into renewable energy, I seriously recommend that you don't throw away your hard earned cash buying high-end products. You might just be paying for the name and durability that you don't need. Look out for equally good cheaper alternatives with the features you require. New innovations in technology will force you to replace it before their end-of-life.

After all, we now live in a disposable world, as far as technology is concern.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Jamzig1(m): 3:55pm On Feb 05, 2018
dapsyra:


For longevity, safety and extreme temperature (-20 to 55 deg Celcius), Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) battery is the best of the Lithium battery family.

With cycle life >10,000cycles at 80% DOD, they can be fast charged from 0-90% in less than 10 minutes at 10C without thermal runaway. The only down side is that they are quite expensive.

I have somethings off my sleeves concerning LTO batteries. I might have limited quantity to sale soon, being leftovers from a classified project.

Please stay tuned on this channel for the announcement in Jan/Feb, 2018

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 4:25pm On Feb 05, 2018
Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) batteries are already here grin

I have used part of it to replace my AGM and Flooded Lead Acid batteries.

I will have a small quantity to dispose off when we finish the project we imported them for.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 5:01pm On Feb 05, 2018
chikkaobi:
I have 230w x4 Solar panel.
I need a 3000w+ 12v inverter with low standby consumption watt, possibly an hybrid with internal MPPT Solar Charge Controller.
Any suggestions?

Call/whatapp 08117398294
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 5:02pm On Feb 05, 2018
I agree with you on all counts baba... It's the reason I'm still waiting for price crash before going Lithium grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 5:07pm On Feb 05, 2018
dapsyra:
Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) batteries are already here grin

I have used part of it to replace my AGM and Flooded Lead Acid batteries.

I will have a small quantity to dispose off when we finish the project we imported them for.


My oga long tym, u jst pack d lithium ba3 for ursef alone, pls give us reviews,since u didn't send me one for testing cheesy..... Dat smal quantity u r talkin abt, are they ready for sale
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 5:18pm On Feb 05, 2018
zeestone99:


My oga long tym, u jst pack d lithium ba3 for ursef alone, pls give us reviews,since u didn't send me one for testing cheesy..... Dat smal quantity u r talkin abt, are they ready for sale

There was no way I can allow such opportunity pass without grabbing them with both hands.

The "small quantity" will be available after we sign-off on the project later this month.

I will do a detail review then.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 5:47pm On Feb 05, 2018
dapsyra:




I have since learnt not to buy these so called high quality high-tech equipment where cheaper equivalents exist.

The quality @Barezzi mentioned as reason to buy high priced brands translates into two factors; performance and longevity.

Performance of top brands might be better than their Chinco equivalent on the surface but when you factor in price differentials the story might change. I most cases, performance difference is not more than 20% (where it exist) but price difference is in the order of 30-100%. On this point, one is therefore better off buying the cheaper Chinco version.

Longevity on the other hand is also not a very good factor to consider when buying High-Tech gadgets. Today's state-of-the-art gadgets will be obsolete in one or two years. While the equipment might still work very well, the allure for improved performance and better features will force you to drop the equipment long before it's end of life. If I may ask, how many people are still using that expensive, durable Nokia 3310 we all bought back then? New technologies have since forced us to retire it despite the fact that it is still working perfectly well.

One of the main limitation of Solar Panel deployment is space. I give you a practical example. More than ten years ago, I purchased and installed my first set of Solar Panels. They were 4units, 80W mono panel. Very expensive state-of-the-art panels for those days. Three years ago, I decide to upgrade because Solar panels have become cheaper, more efficient and smaller. I purchase 6units 300W Chinco (Roysolar) panels. Although my old panels were still working very well, I got rid of them because of space inefficiency and backward incompatibility. The space occupied by the old 320W panels is now sufficient to mount 900W of the new panels. Who knows what will be available in another 10years? Most of us in the forum will gladly get rid of our current "expensive" panel if a new technology suddenly appears that shrinks the size of the panel by half. This will allow for installation of more wattage on the same space.

With my Chinco panels, I have harvested more than 10MWh and it is still going strong with an efficiency of over 4kwh/kw on a sunny day. How many people with the high priced panels have efficiencies that is better than that?

If you are just venturing into renewable energy, I seriously recommend that you don't throw away your hard earned cash buying high-end products. You might just be paying for the name and durability that you don't need. Look out for equally good cheaper alternatives with the features you require. New innovations in technology will force you to replace it before their end-of-life.

After all, we now live in a disposable world, as far as technology is concern.


For the most part, I support the above post. every component that I use is from tier 2 solar producers. Yet the above should not be taken for suspending due diligent. The biggest advantage of premium products (including solar) is the brand of quality which assures the users that the product had undergone best practise in production and best production materials. Premium brands generally have a name to protect and as such you can be assured what you getting is top notch.

for value brands, the user gets the product cheaper but pays the extra cost by doing his own due diligence and research. E.G Sunshine panels has been proven to be a decent PV but don't be naive, the market is full of crappy solar panels that are not worth 40% of their rated power and will not take you far at all.. From Inverters to controllers, PV and batteries buyers beware applies to non premium / value brands.

I have some check I apply when procuring a product.. I check the word of mouth from previous and current users,
I check for international review of the product if available (most products in Nigeria are sold under a brand name but usually have their international OEM e.g IpowerPlus Solar inverters are actually voltronic axpert inverters
then I check for the web presence of the producer.. I go to youtube if their manufacturing process is available..
Lastly I do my own physical inspection to make sure at least prima facie the product is OK.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Ijeoma660(f): 5:49pm On Feb 05, 2018
dapsyra:
Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) batteries are already here grin

I have used part of it to replace my AGM and Flooded Lead Acid batteries.

I will have a small quantity to dispose off when we finish the project we imported them for.


Please I think I would be very much interested in trying them out, as I am about replacing my batteries. Can we talk IM or whatsapp?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 5:51pm On Feb 05, 2018
Barezzi:
I agree with you on all counts baba... It's the reason I'm still waiting for price crash before going Lithium grin

Lithium prices would reduce to a point then it would go up. Lithium is a rare earth material concentrated in few places of the world. Once it goes mainstream it comes gold and the value would shoot up higher than manufacturing process can reduce. I am average lithium prices will not be crashing in a long time

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 6:01pm On Feb 05, 2018
Ijeoma660:


Please I think I would be very much interested in trying them out, as I am about replacing my batteries. Can we talk IM or whatsapp?

Yes, we can chat on whatsapp. Send me an Email and I will send you my number.

My email is <forum ID> at yahoo dot com
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:22pm On Feb 05, 2018
hello house, anybody being able to repair a faulty morning star mppt cc?
likely cause of fault is exceeding voc. 5yr waranty has also been exceeded.
would appreciate any helpful input.

exchanged mails with ms usa tech, he said he suspects the transorbs
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 8:22pm On Feb 05, 2018
Very detailed. Thanks

dapsyra:




I have since learnt not to buy these so called high quality high-tech equipment where cheaper equivalents exist.

The quality @Barezzi mentioned as reason to buy high priced brands translates into two factors; performance and longevity.

Performance of top brands might be better than their Chinco equivalent on the surface but when you factor in price differentials the story might change. I most cases, performance difference is not more than 20% (where it exist) but price difference is in the order of 30-100%. On this point, one is therefore better off buying the cheaper Chinco version.

Longevity on the other hand is also not a very good factor to consider when buying High-Tech gadgets. Today's state-of-the-art gadgets will be obsolete in one or two years. While the equipment might still work very well, the allure for improved performance and better features will force you to drop the equipment long before it's end of life. If I may ask, how many people are still using that expensive, durable Nokia 3310 we all bought back then? New technologies have since forced us to retire it despite the fact that it is still working perfectly well.

One of the main limitation of Solar Panel deployment is space. I give you a practical example. More than ten years ago, I purchased and installed my first set of Solar Panels. They were 4units, 80W mono panel. Very expensive state-of-the-art panels for those days. Three years ago, I decide to upgrade because Solar panels have become cheaper, more efficient and smaller. I purchase 6units 300W Chinco (Roysolar) panels. Although my old panels were still working very well, I got rid of them because of space inefficiency and backward incompatibility. The space occupied by the old 320W panels is now sufficient to mount 900W of the new panels. Who knows what will be available in another 10years? Most of us in the forum will gladly get rid of our current "expensive" panel if a new technology suddenly appears that shrinks the size of the panel by half. This will allow for installation of more wattage on the same space.

With my Chinco panels, I have harvested more than 10MWh and it is still going strong with an efficiency of over 4kwh/kw on a sunny day. How many people with the high priced panels have efficiencies that is better than that?

If you are just venturing into renewable energy, I seriously recommend that you don't throw away your hard earned cash buying high-end products. You might just be paying for the name and durability that you don't need. Look out for equally good cheaper alternatives with the features you require. New innovations in technology will force you to replace it before their end-of-life.

After all, we now live in a disposable world, as far as technology is concern.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by efuro(m): 8:34pm On Feb 05, 2018
E11 error on 30A ROY PWM CC, Can Anybody help with the meaning?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Chuckdee(m): 8:50pm On Feb 05, 2018
bigrovar:


Lithium prices would reduce to a point then it would go up. Lithium is a rare earth material concentrated in few places of the world. Once it goes mainstream it comes gold and the value would shoot up higher than manufacturing process can reduce. I am average lithium prices will not be crashing in a long time

Very true and this will happen sooner than later due to the higher adaption rate of EV's with many countries setting deadlines to stop producing ICE vehicles. However, there are emerging research into new battery tech such as solid state batteries and graphite Air chemistries.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 9:07pm On Feb 05, 2018
You may talk to Zeestone99 - he was able to fix the one MorningStar I had that blew up after a sudden MCB trip. He took it to Alaba and got a repairer to do some magic - I of course couldn't trust the controller again so I sold to him and he is still using it till date and it is going strong.

Cost of repairs could be exhorbitant though - I would rather buy a new one and this is exactly what I did in my own case.

How did you manage to exceed the VoC limit on the CC? Experimenting with 4 panels in series? or some sort of solar flare happened or what? If you can eliminate hardware failure, I may be able to help with reprogramming the MorningStar.

earthrealm:
hello house, anybody being able to repair a faulty morning star mppt cc?
likely cause of fault is exceeding voc. 5yr waranty has also been exceeded.
would appreciate any helpful input.

exchanged mails with ms usa tech, he said he suspects the transorbs

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 9:23pm On Feb 05, 2018
Which of flames, Myhome, yachi, sunshine is more reputable brand?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 9:28pm On Feb 05, 2018
I am in love with Lithium.....
dapsyra:
Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) batteries are already here grin

I have used part of it to replace my AGM and Flooded Lead Acid batteries.

I will have a small quantity to dispose off when we finish the project we imported them for.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by efuro(m): 9:34pm On Feb 05, 2018
mank1234:
Which of flames, Myhome, yachi, sunshine is more reputable brand?

I will go with MyHome anyday. I had six 150w mono from Frankie & still firing almost 2yrs counting. Very reliable beast.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 9:36pm On Feb 05, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
You may talk to Zeestone99 - he was able to fix the one MorningStar I had that blew up after a sudden MCB trip. He took it to Alaba and got a repairer to do some magic - I of course couldn't trust the controller again so I sold to him and he is still using it till date and it is going strong.

Cost of repairs could be exhorbitant though - I would rather buy a new one and this is exactly what I did in my own case.

How did you manage to exceed the VoC limit on the CC? Experimenting with 4 panels in series? or some sort of solar flare happened or what? If you can eliminate hardware failure, I may be able to help with reprogramming the MorningStar.


Lol yeah a massive solar storm when i tried moving my apartment through an einstein-rosen bridge to another dimension.. angry grin[left][/left].

Yeah.my theory is 4 panels in series.back in my days of ignorance...funny enough it lasted more than 3months b4 the failure..total voc was 150..same as upper ceiling of MS
Am trying to make a decision as the unit was sent to the usa..trying to decide if its worth the hassles n cost of bringing it back...might as well dump it there if repairs wud 3xceed 50% of the cost of an epsolar 60amp cc
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dejidotun2000(m): 10:02pm On Feb 05, 2018
what's your average daily harvest and maximum instantaneous generation in recent times.
efuro:


I will go with MyHome anyday. I had six 150w mono from Frankie & still firing almost 2yrs counting. Very reliable beast.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 12:39am On Feb 06, 2018
mank1234:
Which of flames, Myhome, yachi, sunshine is more reputable brand?

Gimme flames anytime anyday !

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SolnergyPower: 1:04am On Feb 06, 2018
Low battery.

efuro:
E11 error on 30A ROY PWM CC, Can Anybody help with the meaning?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by efuro(m): 1:46am On Feb 06, 2018
dejidotun2000:
what's your average daily harvest and maximum instantaneous generation in recent times.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by efuro(m): 1:50am On Feb 06, 2018
SolnergyPower:
Low battery.


Thanks, my oga

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 2:19am On Feb 06, 2018
Did I read the picture right? Slightly over 4 hours of 'absorption charge'? Odiqua risky o bros! That is a rather long period to stay in absorb. Are your batteries FLA/Flooded

Think positive grid corrossion


efuro:


Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by efuro(m): 3:33am On Feb 06, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
Did I read the picture right? Slightly over 4 hours of 'absorption charge'? Odiqua risky o bros! That is a rather long period to stay in absorb. Are your batteries FLA/Flooded

Think positive grid corrossion



DIY stuff not a rule

I currently have SLA batteries and GEL batteries joined as one bank (both lead acid anyway).
I set my absorption at 14v and floating to 13.6v. I can't equalize gel batteries @ 30v so I had to extend my absorption to 4hrs which works fine after testing 2hrs.

My overnight load is 140-200w and still have 65-70% in my batteries by morning. I run 24hrs TVs, DStv+strong+startimes nite or day. Freezer+fridge off 4pm to 9am.
Finally, I get about 5-6hrs of grid a day which is irrelevant if it comes during the day.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nisol: 3:36am On Feb 06, 2018
efuro:


Just as oga idsolar suggest to me on phone in December, I climb my low roof bi-weekly to clean my PV and I have never been disappointed.

Am beginning to feel my neighbors think Solar get wahala joor grin grin even though I have dedicated an extension bracket for their phone charging.

I would calmly wait for the rains to come back, my big belle and my roof are not compatible

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by makavele: 3:40am On Feb 06, 2018
efuro:


DIY stuff not a rule

I currently have SLA batteries and GEL batteries joined as one bank (both lead acid anyway).
I set my absorption at 14v and floating to 13.6v. I can't equalize gel batteries @ 30v so I had to extend my absorption to 4hrs which works fine after testing 2hrs.

My overnight load is 140-200w and still have 65-70% in my batteries by morning. I run 24hrs TVs, DStv+strong+startimes nite or day. Freezer+fridge off 4pm to 9am.
Finally, I get about 5-6hrs of grid a day which is irrelevant if it comes during the day.

How is your microtek serving you ?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by andymola(m): 1:27pm On Feb 06, 2018
Can someone help me with a breakdown of the cost of installing inverter with Solar panel for two rooms, kitchen and toilet.
Thanks

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