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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Daewang: 12:29pm On Mar 07, 2018
From Poland to U.S. to UK and now Italy our Igbo race keeps leading. Only possession of the whole world will satisfy us. Total domination and control of the world is our birthright and inheritance.
God bless our Igbo race.
God bless Israel.
God bless greater Zion.

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Nonaira3: 12:36pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


If you were not a witless clod, you'd realize:
1) I have zero qualms with the notion of Nigeria being a "shithole". I call Nigeria worse names and I'm about the most hyper-critical Nigerian anyone would ever meet and I never defend the country on any issue whatsoever. grin That you think insulting the country is of any consequence to me is some pretty comical shiit. grin
2) You are a Nigerian. Your constant use of 2nd person pronouns is some pretty weird-ass shiit. It seems you need a date with the nearest psychiatric institution. Nigeria's shiithole status is a collective indictment of any living Nigerian. When Trump calls Nigeria and other black and African nations "shitholes", it's not just an insult on those countries. It's an insult to your very heritage. You can delude yourself all you want trying to extricate yourself from such an association, but the reality is that to any white person who may be racist, you're just a citizen from a shithole.
3) Your homeland, whether your Igbo homeland, or your Anioma homeland is as much a shithole as anywhere else in the country. Worse even. grin If your homeland was developed, your asinine ramblings might have made some slight sense, but your homeland is an absolute shithole. Not even the huge money from 13% oil derivation has transformed it from a veritable shiithole. So what makes it any better than other Nigerians?

And I have zero problems with white racists/neo-nazis or whatever. Black people are just as racist as white people, but they are less able to oppress others with their racism. That is why people cry about white racism more. grin What I have a problem with is the house niggas who enslave themselves to white racists as tools to antagonize other blacks.


An all-round witless clod with no arguments of substance. grin

1.) Bactracking and denying his defense of his shithole despite his entire crying on this thread is regarding on an igbo joining a party that don't want his and his ilks in their country. Hell even attacked those that laughed and mocked this shithole. Literally still on the thread yet the fool is backtracking on his act grin grin grin grin what a comedian. Next time wait till we leave a thread where your crying about your shithole wasn't displayed.

2.) grin grin grin grin. See statement grin grin ;. Even with me mentioning i take niggeria title as an insult, this fool actually thinks I'm Niggerian or see myself as one. Do I look like i come from the same savage background as you waste animals? Nigga first I'm igbo, not a wannabe like your Afonja ass, but the real deal. The British dragged my people in this hellhole with the rest of you miserable rats does not in anyway states that I see myself as Niggeria or even accept that Nigger Area title given to una by your slave master. My people have been fighting to be away from you miserable, retrogressive, brainless rats for years now....that should point to you exactly what ethnicity i see myself as. Next time use your brain. It is there for a reason, it's not a decoration.

Secondly, long burned your passport years ago. Burned it to the ground happily too. If anything I'm American considering that is the only passport I have. Nationality wise: I'm American. Ethnicity wise: I'm biafran/igbo. Bleep your shithole. When trump called you niggerians shithole, he never lied. Even your own current president have called una corrupt, animals, baboons and monkeys and criminals. So was Trump statement about you lots so different from what your own niggeria president called una and told the whites about una? Go cry to your president for being a shitolian.

3.) Anioma was destroyed during the war. Less than 50 years later it's rebuilt itself while the rest of you backwards animals are still stuck in the same spot...I'm even being nice, you've fell off and now residing in hell despite you're more than 100 years old as a country. What makes us better? We actually improved ourselves despite having to start over and you motherfuckers hindrance. While your shithole is yet to get out of the hell you are.

Blacks are less likely to oppress others with your racism? See what a grown man wrote? Wow!!! Have you taken a clear look at your backwards shithole? Your shithole is the epitome of black oppression you fools. You literally committed xenophobia against Ghanaians simply because they were progressing better than you lots in your shithole back in the day when it was something. Not only that, you engaged in genocidal kills because others wanted out of your shihole. Your entire nation is riddle with nothing but tribalism even till this very fucking day. Take a good ass look at shithole. You condemn white racists when you animals in Nigeria are 10x worse than they are. You animals attack other blacks and yet deem yourselves as defender of blacks. Bleep out of here with your hypocrisy of stupidity. Incompetent buffoon.

Lastly do not EVER in your miserable life equate other blacks in your stupidity. Let's be real, the anti-immigrants would affect you Niggerians more so.
Infact from what i heard, most of the anti black hatred going on in Europe now is predominately caused by you niggerians. Blacks in general is a progressive race; you niggerians are the ass of blacks and I personally think you animals don't deserve the black title and should be kicked out of the the black community.....a bunch of savage animals is what you lots are and you deserve every insult, attack and degradation by anyone including the white racist. You fuckers deserve everything you get no questions asked. Don't you ever EVER in your miserable life insult the black community ever again. #spits on your face for that insult. Brainless idiot.

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by LZAA: 12:40pm On Mar 07, 2018
LaudableXX:

Stop saying what you do not know! sad The old Midwest was made up of different ethnic groups like the Itsekiri, Bini, Afemai,Urhobo, Isoko, Aboh, Agbor and other Igbo-speaking ethnic groups. While they were under the old Western region where Awolowo was Premier, they had access to the same free education that the core Southwesterners had. Their roads were built alongside those in the old Western region, and they also had access to the same healthcare facilities. The only area where they felt a bit of deprivation, was in political representation. undecided So they agitated for their own region. Why would they hate Awolowo during the period they were under the old Western region, when he ensured that development was equally spread across board, and it got to their own areas as well?

The Igbo-speaking parts of the old Midwest region, only ended up hating Awolowo, because of the civil war. Prior to that, he was not hated by the different ethnic groups in the old Midwest region. Till today, if you ask any Edo, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Afenmai etc or Itsekiri community that was part of the old Midwestern region, if they hate Awolowo, they would tell you, No. A few might be indifferent, but hate? Mba!

cc; Deadlytruth
Awo was never loved by the midwest
dunno why u guys hate facing d truth

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by LaudableXX: 12:44pm On Mar 07, 2018
LZAA:
Awo was never loved by the midwest
dunno why u guys hate facing d truth
Which tribe in the old Midwest hated Awolowo? Was it the Edo or Isoko or who? Only your Igbo-speaking tribes in the old Asaba division disliked Awolowo, during the civil war. Nobody else! undecided
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by LZAA: 12:49pm On Mar 07, 2018
Nonaira3:


1.) Bactracking and denying his defense of his shithole despite his entire crying on this thread is regarding on an igbo joining a party that don't want his and his ilks in their country. Hell even attacked those that laughed and mocked this shithole. Literally still on the thread yet the fool is backtracking on his act grin grin grin grin what a comedian. Next time wait till we leave a thread where your crying about your shithole wasn't displayed.

2.) grin grin grin grin. See statement grin grin ;. Even with me mentioning i take niggeria title as an insult, this fool actually thinks I'm Niggerian or see myself as one. Do I look like i come from the same savage background as you waste animals? Nigga first I'm igbo, not a wannabe like your Afonja ass, but the real deal. The British dragged my people in this hellhole with the rest of you miserable rats does not in anyway states that I see myself as Niggeria or even accept that Nigger Area title given to una by your slave master. My people have been fighting to be away from you miserable, retrogressive, brainless rats for years now....that should point to you exactly what ethnicity i see myself as. Next time use your brain. It is there for a reason, it's not a decoration.

Secondly, long burned your passport years ago. Burned it to the ground happily too. If anything I'm American considering that is the only passport I have. Nationality wise: I'm American. Ethnicity wise: I'm biafran/igbo. Bleep your shithole. When trump called you niggerians shithole, he never lied. Even your own current president have called una corrupt, animals, baboons and monkeys and criminals. So was Trump statement about you lots so different from what your own niggeria president called una and told the whites about una? Go cry to your president for being a shitolian.

3.) Anioma was destroyed during the war. Less than 50 years later it's rebuilt itself while the rest of you backwards animals are still stuck in the same spot...I'm even being nice, you've fell off and now residing in hell despite you're more than 100 years old as a country. What makes us better? We actually improved ourselves despite having to start over and you motherfuckers hindrance. While your shithole is yet to get out of the hell you are.

Blacks are less likely to oppress others with your racism? See what a grown man wrote? Wow!!! Have you taken a clear look at your backwards shithole? Your shithole is the epitome of black oppression you fools. You literally committed xenophobia against Ghanaians simply because they were progressing better than you lots in your shithole back in the day when it was something. Not only that, you engaged in genocidal kills because others wanted out of your shihole. Your entire nation is riddle with nothing but tribalism even till this very fucking day. Take a good ass look at shithole. You condemn white racists when you animals in Nigeria are 10x worse than they are. You animals attack other blacks and yet deem yourselves as defender of blacks. Bleep out of here with your hypocrisy of stupidity. Incompetent buffoon.

Lastly do not EVER in your miserable life equate other blacks in your stupidity. Let's be real, the anti-immigrants would affect you Niggerians more so.
Infact from what i heard, most of the anti black hatred going on in Europe now is predominately caused by you niggerians. Blacks in general is a progressive race; you niggerians are the ass of blacks and I personally think you animals don't deserve the black title and should be kicked out of the the black community.....a bunch of savage animals is what you lots are and you deserve every insult, attack and degradation by anyone including the white racist. You fuckers deserve everything you get no questions asked. Don't you ever EVER in your miserable life insult the black community ever again. #spits on your face for that insult. Brainless idiot.
BRUTALITYYYYYY grin grin grin
obi1kenobi right now grin

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by LZAA: 12:51pm On Mar 07, 2018
LaudableXX:

Which tribe in the old Midwest hated Awolowo? Was it the Edo or Isoko or who? Only your Igbo-speaking tribes in the old Asaba division disliked Awolowo, during the civil war. Nobody else! undecided
but when we say they are igbo una go say lie lie grin grin
smh

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by LaudableXX: 12:54pm On Mar 07, 2018
LZAA:
but when we say they are igbo una go say lie lie grin grin
smh
What are you saying? Is Edo part of the Igbo tribe? Or is Urhobo, Isoko, itsekiri etc, part of the Igbo tribe? Were Edo, Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri, Afemai etc, not part of the old Midwest region?

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Obi1kenobi(m): 1:37pm On Mar 07, 2018
Nonaira3:


1.) Bactracking and denying his defense of his shithole despite his entire crying on this thread is regarding on an igbo joining a party that don't want his and his ilks in their country. Hell even attacked those that laughed and mocked this shithole. Literally still on the thread yet the fool is backtracking on his act grin grin grin grin what a comedian. Next time wait till we leave a thread where your crying about your shithole wasn't displayed.
No, sunshine. I never defended "my shithole". I attacked your moronic attempts to dissociate Igbos from the shithole. A world of difference, but you could never be accused of being strong on comprehension. Present anywhere here I defended Nigeria. No? Thought not. grin I guess when your arguments are blown to smithereens, brazen fabrications and distortions becomes the new line of defense.


2.) grin grin grin grin. See statement grin grin ;. Even with me mentioning i take niggeria title as an insult, this fool actually thinks I'm Niggerian or see myself as one. Do I look like i come from the same savage background as you waste animals? Nigga first I'm igbo, not a wannabe like your Afonja ass, but the real deal. The British dragged my people in this hellhole with the rest of you miserable rats does not in anyway states that I see myself as Niggeria or even accept that Nigger Area title given to una by your slave master. My people have been fighting to be away from you miserable, retrogressive, brainless rats for years now....that should point to you exactly what ethnicity i see myself as. Next time use your brain. It is there for a reason, it's not a decoration.

Secondly, long burned your passport years ago. Burned it to the ground happily too. If anything I'm American considering that is the only passport I have. Nationality wise: I'm American. Ethnicity wise: I'm biafran/igbo. Bleep your shithole. When trump called you niggerians shithole, he never lied. Even your own current president have called una corrupt, animals, baboons and monkeys and criminals. So was Trump statement about you lots so different from what your own niggeria president called una and told the whites about una? Go cry to your president for being a shitolian.

It doesn't matter whether you take the title as an "insult" or not. Reality remains what it is. grin Except you were born and lived your life in America, which I highly doubt but which you'll probably claim when we can't verify it, that is what you are - a Nigerian. There is no existing entity like Biafra. grin Neither is being Igbo somehow mutually exclusive from your Nigerian identity. The entirety of the Igbo ancestral homeland falls within Nigeria's borders.

And no, your people haven't been "fighting" anything. A bunch of internet, chest-beating cretins doesn't qualify as the plurality of your people. grin During the months of Kanu-led IPOB madness, there was not one single prominent Igbo son (politicians and administrators and prominent royal fathers and armed forces chiefs and industrialists and businessmen and corporate executives and technocrats and renowned academics and literary icons and entertainers and sportsmen etc) who came out in support of the deluded cause. Basically, the movers and shakers of Igbo society who knew what they stood to lose kept mute while okada riders, 2X2 shop owners, unemployed youths and roadside touts were disturbing the peace. grin There was the funny newspaper interviews in Alaba market where Igbo store owners came out in opposition to the noise-making IPOB yoots, while their apprentices and errand boys, out of sight from their ogas, were the ones voicing support. The day Igbos truly want to leave this country, it would be made a practical reality when wide grassroots support is mobilized. And would be made a practical reality when millions of Igbos start investing in their homeland.


3.) Anioma was destroyed during the war. Less than 50 years later it's rebuilt itself while the rest of you backwards animals are still stuck in the same spot...I'm even being nice, you've fell off and now residing in hell despite you're more than 100 years old as a country. What makes us better? We actually improved ourselves despite having to start over and you motherfuckers hindrance. While your shithole is yet to get out of the hell you are.

Blacks are less likely to oppress others with your racism? See what a grown man wrote? Wow!!! Have you taken a clear look at your backwards shithole? Your shithole is the epitome of black oppression you fools. You literally committed xenophobia against Ghanaians simply because they were progressing better than you lots in your shithole back in the day when it was something. Not only that, you engaged in genocidal kills because others wanted out of your shihole. Your entire nation is riddle with nothing but tribalism even till this very fucking day. Take a good ass look at shithole. You condemn white racists when you animals in Nigeria are 10x worse than they are. You animals attack other blacks and yet deem yourselves as defender of blacks. Bleep out of here with your hypocrisy of stupidity. Incompetent buffoon.

Lastly do not EVER in your miserable life equate other blacks in your stupidity. Let's be real, the anti-immigrants would affect you Niggerians more so.
Infact from what i heard, most of the anti black hatred going on in Europe now is predominately caused by you niggerians. Blacks in general is a progressive race; you niggerians are the ass of blacks and I personally think you animals don't deserve the black title and should be kicked out of the the black community.....a bunch of savage animals is what you lots are and you deserve every insult, attack and degradation by anyone including the white racist. You fuckers deserve everything you get no questions asked. Don't you ever EVER in your miserable life insult the black community ever again. #spits on your face for that insult. Brainless idiot.

A typical example of his comprehension issues. You see why I called you a witless clod? grin I made a statement about blacks being just as racist as whites, but due to being on the lower strata in the global power dynamics, they are less in a position to oppress others (others obviously meaning other races) than whites, which is the reason most are more preoccupied with white racism. The very reason I said blacks are just as racist as anyone is because they are more than willing to oppress each other as African ethnic squabbles, xenophobic unrests, genocides and civil wars prove. That you think you were somehow educating me on that is some funny ass shiit. You would do well in stand-up comedy. grin

It's funny you talk about how Nigerians are perceived abroad with their "sharp" activities and yet, it doesn't quite register that the activities of Igbos are probably as big a contribution as any to that perception. Asians and South Africans and Brazilians etc think Nigerians are all drug peddlers because of Igbos, your master race of niggas that don't belong in Nigeria with the rest of the savages. grin

And no Anioma was rebuilt from any destruction in the civil war. Yeah, houses here and there were affected, civilians were massacred by Murtala Mohammed, but the Biafran war was largely about a bunch of rifle-wielding incompetent Nigerian soldiers taking almost 3 years to put down the insurgency of rag-tag, poorly armed, poorly trained Biafran soldiers, some of who were marching in parades with bamboo poles and cassava sticks. There was very little mechanized warfare to really cause serious damage. The biggest infrastructural harm to the East was Biafran soldiers destroying their own Niger Bridge to stop Nigerian soldiers from crossing. grin Your Anioma homeland is as much a shithole as much of the country is. So tone down the chest-beating horseshit.

And like I said, I'm concerned for your health the way you're frothing in the mouth like a rabid dog in your bitterness and rage. grin The more laughable part is using laughter emoticons while raging like a rabid dog. grin Ndo nwanne.

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by NegroArea: 2:18pm On Mar 07, 2018
Let me add more to afonja painment.... grin


Igbos were already spoken of as a superior race even before the creation of Nigeria...

As it was in the past, so it is today and so shall it continue to be..

Oya let the painmemt continue.

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by ayzTIGER: 2:53pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Where are you from in Anambra? I can bet you my Oraukwu is London compared to whatever erosion-ravaged enclave you're from.
Joe Igbokwe howfa?
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by KevinDein: 2:57pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi:

No, sunshine. I never defended "my shithole". I attacked your moronic attempts to dissociate Igbos from the shithole. A world of difference, but you could never be accused of being strong on comprehension. Present anywhere here I defended Nigeria. No? Thought not. grin I guess when your arguments are blown to smithereens, brazen fabrications and distortions becomes the new line of defense.



It doesn't matter whether you take the title as an "insult" or not. Reality remains what it is. grin Except you were born and lived your life in America, which I highly doubt but which you'll probably claim when we can't verify it, that is what you are - a Nigerian. There is no existing entity like Biafra. grin Neither is being Igbo somehow mutually exclusive from your Nigerian identity. The entirety of the Igbo ancestral homeland falls within Nigeria's borders.

And no, your people haven't been "fighting" anything. A bunch of internet, chest-beating cretins doesn't qualify as the plurality of your people. grin During the months of Kanu-led IPOB madness, there was not one single prominent Igbo son (politicians and administrators and prominent royal fathers and armed forces chiefs and industrialists and businessmen and corporate executives and technocrats and renowned academics and literary icons and entertainers and sportsmen etc) who came out in support of the deluded cause. Basically, the movers and shakers of Igbo society who knew what they stood to lose kept mute while okada riders, 2X2 shop owners, unemployed youths and roadside touts were disturbing the peace. grin There was the funny newspaper interviews in Alaba market where Igbo store owners came out in opposition to the noise-making IPOB yoots, while their apprentices and errand boys, out of sight from their ogas, were the ones voicing support. The day Igbos truly want to leave this country, it would be made a practical reality when wide grassroots support is mobilized. And would be made a practical reality when millions of Igbos start investing in their homeland.



A typical example of his comprehension issues. You see why I called you a witless clod? grin I made a statement about blacks being just as racist as whites, but due to being on the lower strata in the global power dynamics, they are less in a position to oppress others (others obviously meaning other races) than whites, which is the reason most are more preoccupied with white racism. The very reason I said blacks are just as racist as anyone is because they are more than willing to oppress each other as African ethnic squabbles, xenophobic unrests, genocides and civil wars prove. That you think you were somehow educating me on that is some funny ass shiit. You would do well in stand-up comedy. grin

It's funny you talk about how Nigerians are perceived abroad with their "sharp" activities and yet, it doesn't quite register that the activities of Igbos are probably as big a contribution as any to that perception. Asians and South Africans and Brazilians etc think Nigerians are all drug peddlers because of Igbos, your master race of niggas that don't belong in Nigeria with the rest of the savages. grin

And no Anioma was rebuilt from any destruction in the civil war. Yeah, houses here and there were affected, civilians were massacred by Murtala Mohammed, but the Biafran war was largely about a bunch of rifle-wielding incompetent Nigerian soldiers taking almost 3 years to put down the insurgency of rag-tag, poorly armed, poorly trained Biafran soldiers, some of who were marching in parades with bamboo poles and cassava sticks. There was very little mechanized warfare to really cause serious damage. The biggest infrastructural harm to the East was Biafran soldiers destroying their own Niger Bridge to stop Nigerian soldiers from crossing. grin Your Anioma homeland is as much a shithole as much of the country is. So tone down the chest-beating horseshit.

And like I said, I'm concerned for your health the way you're frothing in the mouth like a rabid dog in your bitterness and rage. grin The more laughable part is using laughter emoticons while raging like a rabid dog. grin Ndo nwanne.
Away from the topic, do you post comments on guardianuk football forum? I've seen comments in that forum from a moniker that sounds just like yours (his is actually ObiwanKenobi) with a similar writing pattern (which I'm a fan of)
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by KratosCorp: 3:20pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


... Sure, there are sincere black Republicans driven by fiscal and social conservatism, ..


And yeah, black Americans deserve a lot of criticism for their social dysfunction. I've been critical of this a lot and been called names by other black people...

So what's your point?


Repeating the racist tropes of whites about "lazy blacks" who depend on government is the same brainwashing. For one, most of the other minority groups identify as Democrats by huge numbers: Asians, Hispanics/Latinos, Arabs/Persian/Jews, African immigrants etc. Those who know what it feels to be outsiders tend to be more committed to uplifting their communities. Not to mention that the US has about the least-generous welfare system among developed nations: unique among developed nations for not having universal healthcare coverage which even many 3rd world countries provide for citizens.

There is a reason America has remained the richest and strongest country on the planet. Stop trying to convert America to the socialist/godless Europe or politically confused third world countries. It won't work - forever.

Who told you that America has no adequate healthcare coverage for its poor citizens? Who says that the US must compete with everyone else on style of healthcare delivery? If Europe is so awesome why is it depending on the US for so many things? If universal care is so awesome, why were folks protesting it in the UK? Ever listened to "Freakonomics"?

By the way, who told you that "Universal Healthcare" is the best option for optimal healthcare delivery without harming or hampering the nation's economic growth? Do you have any data on that?

And get this straight, till tomorrow, America will remain the most benevolent nation on earth. But don't get it twisted - welfare state is antithesis to the American spirit.

Let that sink in.

That's why the MAGA movement is in the oval office - and would remain there until folks like you learn to respect the founding political, social and economic philosophies of the United States (like free enterprise - individual liberty - dignity of labor - and equality of all humans - a system which, by the way, remains the very best in the whole-wide-world bar none.

If you think your idea is better, then get the heck out of the country and implement what you've got in your homeland. The US will never be like Europe. And you cannot make it a third world country no matter how hard you folks try.


Then there is the ultimate trope fed to the black Republican useful idiots about the Democrat's racist history. A deliberately obtuse interpretation of US history fed to ignorant people to digest. The Democrats were mostly a Southern party earlier in US history, while the Republicans had their voting base mostly centred in the North. Do a little bit of research about the Dixiecrats, about President Nixon's "Southern strategy" to pretty much divert the racist base of the Southern Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights movement to the Republican party, and about how the US deep South went from overwhelmingly democrat to overwhelming Republican. Do this and stop being a house nigga peddling the warped theories of your white masters.

What the heck are you talking about? The typical liberal madness - projecting your inherent idiocy on someone else.

Just look at the bolded in your incoherent BS and tell me what was the norm with the dems regarding the black community in the years prior to the "Civil Rights Movement". Can you?

And on your "Southern Strategy" dung, here are a few compulsory readings for you.

1. https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/06/democratic-party-racist-history-mona-charen/

2. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html

3. http://journals.openedition.org/miranda/2243
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by BetaThings: 3:55pm On Mar 07, 2018
MonPro:
We yoruba muslims are angry. Why would Italy elect an 'Ibo man' to lead them? Why can't they elect a yoruba muslim or Almajiris like since Ibos are not to be trusted.

Italy must behave like us in third world nigeria and marginalize Ibos if they must be developed like nigeria. Insha Allah! grin

Of course, you are not a Muslim
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by BetaThings: 4:41pm On Mar 07, 2018
legitnow:



DO YOU NEED ME TO READ YOU THE HISTORY OF HOW NNAMDI AZIKIWE WON AN ELECTION AND YORUBA/HAUSA STARTED CROSS CARPETING TO DENY HIM A MAJORITY AND THE OFFICE.

DEY DENIED HIM NNAMDI AZIKIWE OFFICE BECOS OF THEIR CORRUPT WAYS AND DAT WAS WAT NZEGWU WAS SAYING.

An example of what is wrong in this country is that people are fed poison in the name of history
The election you are referring to was into the parliament of the Western Region
Zik did not win - even the West African Pilot owned by Zik said so
Who would you say won the Italian election of last week?
Nobody has a a clear majority in the lectio of last week
And nobody did in the election you refer to
So in a parliamentary system, you make overtures to people to get a majority

The irony of your post is that the same thing happened in 1960
NPC, PEPU, NCNC and AG contested and none could have formed a government
But NPC had the largest number of seats
NCNC and AG could have formed the government but NCNC and NPC teamed up and formed a government
NPC produced the Prime Minister as the senior partners and NCNC produced the Gov General (later called ceremonial president)
today, Israel has a ceremonial president but PM Netanyahu is the one you will always see taking decisions

Now if Hausa Fulani were corrupt, why did Zik team up with NPC dominated by Hausa Fulani and even agreed to be a distant no 2?
If Zik was not a parliamentarian, how could he had hoped to become the premier of Western Region in a parliamentary system of government
How could the Hausa/Fulani have cross carpeted in an election into the parliament of the Western region
Why would Nzegwu plan a coup because of something that happened a decade previously?
Have you also considered this point - who voted for Zik to be so close to becoming premier in Western Region
If Zik was truly not corrupt, why did supposedly people with "corrupt practices" vote for him?

And by the way, when Zik was not able to form a government in the West, what did he do?
He went to the East to deny a South South person the opportunity to become premier of East
Did you know that? And do you want to explain how that is right?


legitnow:
DO YOU NEED ME TO BRING A VIDEOS OF THE LEVEL OF TROUBLE MAKING BY HAUSAFULANI THAT LED TO NZEGWU COUP.


NZEGWU COUP WAS AGAINST THE CORRUPT MEMBERS OF NIGERIA FIRST PARLIAMENT.

Bring the videos
I beg of you, let us have them

By the way, I hope you know that distorting history is corruption

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by KratosCorp: 4:46pm On Mar 07, 2018
Shut the bleep up. You are not igbo. And you have zero igbo interest at heart.
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Daewang:
From Poland to U.S. to UK and now Italy our Igbo race keeps leading. Only possession of the whole world will satisfy us. Total domination and control of the world is our birthright and inheritance.
God bless our Igbo race.
God bless Israel.
God bless greater Zion.
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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Obi1kenobi(m): 4:55pm On Mar 07, 2018
KratosCorp:


There is a reason America has remained the richest and strongest country on the planet. Stop trying to convert America to the socialist/godless Europe or politically confused third world countries. It won't work - forever.

Who told you that America has no adequate healthcare coverage for its poor citizens? Who says that the US must compete with everyone else on style of healthcare delivery? If Europe is so awesome why is it depending on the US for so many things? If universal care is so awesome, why were folks protesting it in the UK? Ever listened to "Freakonomics"?

By the way, who told you that "Universal Healthcare" is the best option for optimal healthcare delivery without harming or hampering the nation's economic growth? Do you have any data on that?

And get this straight, till tomorrow, America will remain the most benevolent nation on earth. But don't get it twisted - welfare state is antithesis to the American spirit.

Let that sink in.

That's why the MAGA movement is in the oval office - and would remain there until folks like you learn to respect the founding political, social and economic philosophies of the United States (like free enterprise - individual liberty - dignity of labor - and equality of all humans - a system which, by the way, remains the very best in the whole-wide-world bar none.

If you think your idea is better, then get the heck out of the country and implement what you've got in your homeland. The US will never be like Europe. And you cannot make it a third world country no matter how hard you folks try.

Yes, there's a reason. Because it's by far the most populated of the wealthy, advanced nations. Because it's an empire built an ocean away from the chaos that consumed warring Europeans and East Asians in the last century with no devastation on its homeland. Infact, they were the only country that came out of the immediate aftermath of World War 2 richer and more vibrant than when they went in and established themselves as the sole economic superpower in the new global order. That prosperity also incidentally came with a European-style generous welfare system and strong unions and support for the industrial and agrarian working class and federal investments in infrastructure, public housing etc and tighter constraints on the banks and heavier taxes on the corporate elites established under Roosevelt's "New Deal" in the 30's. To simplistically attribute America's prosperity to some jingoistic nonsense about "free market, individual liberty...blah, blah..blah" is pretty damn far from true.

UK people have protested the funding constraints of the NHIS. But there is overwhelming universal appreciation of the system in the UK (97% support) from just about every party and they are proud of it. As are the Canadians. Or the Aussies. Or the French. Or the Germans. Etc etc etc. Meanwhile, healthcare is a heavily polarizing issue in the US where consistent polling shows a small majority want single-payer universal coverage while a large minority are opposed. Unfortunately, the US isn't really a representative democracy (as gun advocacy proves where a minority get their way over the wishes of the considerable majority) and elite interests are promulgated by politicians - mostly Republicans.

The MAGA movement won't "remain" there. It's easy for victors, power-drunk and reveling in their victories to get cocky. But the reality is the pendulum swings every 4 to 8-year cycle. In that 2-party system, every movement is eventually toppled by the opposing backlash.


What the heck are you talking about? The typical liberal madness - projecting your inherent idiocy on someone else.

Just look at the bolded in your incoherent BS and tell me what was the norm with the dems regarding the black community in the years prior to the "Civil Rights Movement". Can you?

And on your "Southern Strategy" dung, here are a few compulsory readings for you.

1. https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/06/democratic-party-racist-history-mona-charen/

2. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html

3. http://journals.openedition.org/miranda/2243

The Democrats and Republicans represented very different things generations ago. Comparing and trying to link the values of Jim Crow era Democrats in the highly conservative Deep South with 21st century Democrats in California, New York, Illinois etc is patently silly and intellectually dishonest. The schism in Republican and Democratic politics in the Jim Crow era had nothing to do with the modern issues that divide both bases. It is a fact that millions of the voting base of Southern Democrats and segregationist Southern politicians shifted allegiances to the Republicans after the victories of the Civil Rights activists. Are you trying to suggest that those Democrats were "liberals"? grin I'd like to see you give it a try to explain how that works.

Your article links are dissenting voices to a widely studied phenomenon which has broad academic consensus. Though, if you'll believe the typical Republicans, college academics and intellectuals are part of the liberal conspiracy to destroy America.

Trying to portray Democrats as the real party of racists is........I don't know if that is just dishonesty or you're genuinely THAT mooronic. grin You could randomly poll 1,000 people that post on Stormfront, Daily Stormer, Breitbart, 4chan, 8chan, Reddit sub-forums and just about any site that gives a platform to noxious racists, white nationalists and neo-nazis and not a single one of them would vote Democrat. This is why I call many black conservatives "useful idiots". It's perfectly plausible to espouse conservative orthodoxy about limited government, fiscal responsibility, anti-abortion activism etc without normalizing and defending the visible hard-right extremists. I lean liberal, but that doesn't mean I support every typical liberal talking point.

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Obi1kenobi(m): 4:59pm On Mar 07, 2018
KevinDein:

Away from the topic, do you post comments on guardianuk football forum? I've seen comments in that forum from a moniker that sounds just like yours (his is actually ObiwanKenobi) with a similar writing pattern (which I'm a fan of)

No. That's not my moniker. Interestingly, I use this same moniker on Daily Mail.
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:05pm On Mar 07, 2018
KratosCorp:
Shut the bleep up. You are not igbo. And you have zero igbo interest at heart.


Yes, he is Igbo. You'd be surprised by just how twisted many of the Jew-claimers here are. Example below:

NegroArea:
Let me add more to afonja painment.... grin


Igbos were already spoken of as a superior race even before the creation of Nigeria...

As it was in the past, so it is today and so shall it continue to be..

Oya let the painmemt continue.


This one here is happy to be bragging about being one of the "superior" slaves of the white man. He's happy an oyinbo racist thinks Igbo people are superior livestock to other nigga species. grin
I don see many tins for this forum, sha. Chineke mere anyi ebere. grin

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Daewang: 6:32pm On Mar 07, 2018
KratosCorp:
Shut the bleep up. You are not igbo. And you have zero igbo interest at heart.




Fucking bastard sub human specie like you who gave you the right or privilege to reply an Igbo like me. Dirty inferior specie.
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by KratosCorp: 7:03pm On Mar 07, 2018
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Fucking bastard sub human specie like you who gave you the right or privilege to reply an Igbo like me. Dirty inferior specie.
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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Daewang: 7:06pm On Mar 07, 2018
KratosCorp:
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miserable thing don't ever quote me in your miserable life again. I can't remember talking to you.
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Nobody: 7:12pm On Mar 07, 2018
Igbo amaka.

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by nku5: 7:20pm On Mar 07, 2018
grin Ndi Igbo

Unu na sa ka

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Nonaira3: 8:00pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi:

No, sunshine. I never defended "my shithole". I attacked your moronic attempts to dissociate Igbos from the shithole. A world of difference, but you could never be accused of being strong on comprehension. Present anywhere here I defended Nigeria. No? Thought not. grin I guess when your arguments are blown to smithereens, brazen fabrications and distortions becomes the new line of defense.

The fact you are crying all over this thread regarding iwobi stands is all proof need be. The fact you were crying because not one igbo opposed iwobi stand and proud of his achievement is all proof need be. The biggest fact you attacked an abian and called Abia names simply for calling out Edo and claimed Edo is better and had more respectable people or something along the line is all proof need be. If you were not in deep pain about your shithole being mocked, laughed and support that you lots rot in that hellhole on this thread likewise irritated that Iwobi choose to support a group that keeps you out of their progressive country, you wouldn't have been on this thread crying for several pages now while masquerading as an igbo from Anambra. Your own act betrays you nincompoop. grin



It doesn't matter whether you take the title as an "insult" or not. Reality remains what it is. grin Except you were born and lived your life in America, which I highly doubt but which you'll probably claim when we can't verify it, that is what you are - a Nigerian. There is no existing entity like Biafra. grin Neither is being Igbo somehow mutually exclusive from your Nigerian identity. The entirety of the Igbo ancestral homeland falls within Nigeria's borders.
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So funny that this brainless fool have been in severe tears because an Iwobi joined a "Nazi party filled with racist whites" yet this savage animal is right here and there proud to stamp in the Nigger Area title given to him by hilariously enough a Racist white who have even been recorded of having zero regards for Africans. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin imagine the stupidity and the hypocrisy. Dumbass the Iwobi you attack, you literally another version of him. Just like he supports as you called you "a racist white party", you support a racist white colonizer. You are just a yes massa slave like you say he is. The only difference is you are too stupid to even realize it.

Now in terms of national identity you fool, what makes you a country men is when you have citizenship of a nation....what gives that citizenship is proof of your nationality aka a passport, identity card and idk if niggeria has one but a social security card. When a person denouces a nation by getting rid of any aspect that prove citizenship of a country, then they loose that citizenship. Hence, if i choose to visit that shithole you hail from, which by God's grace I never do ever, I'll need to get a visa to visit as since, I have nothing to prove niggeria citizenship excluding my parents. There's a reason Americans without a passport get stranded in a foreign Nation until their government proves that there are infact American citizenship. That's common sense. But then again I'm not shocked. You come from a country where your own president told you people that a man went through the International Airport and got on an international airline without a passport
and yet you motherfukers believed him. What do I expect from a man from a Land filled with illiterates obviously you're going to be an illiterate as well obviously. So am I shocked? No. Now let's move on the next stupidity of nationality that you just wrote.


And no, your people haven't been "fighting" anything. A bunch of internet, chest-beating cretins doesn't qualify as the plurality of your people. grin During the months of Kanu-led IPOB madness, there was not one single prominent Igbo son (politicians and administrators and prominent royal fathers and armed forces chiefs and industrialists and businessmen and corporate executives and technocrats and renowned academics and literary icons and entertainers and sportsmen etc) who came out in support of the deluded cause. Basically, the movers and shakers of Igbo society who knew what they stood to lose kept mute while okada riders, 2X2 shop owners, unemployed youths and roadside touts were disturbing the peace. grin There was the funny newspaper interviews in Alaba market where Igbo store owners came out in opposition to the noise-making IPOB yoots, while their apprentices and errand boys, out of sight from their ogas, were the ones voicing support. The day Igbos truly want to leave this country, it would be made a practical reality when wide grassroots support is mobilized. And would be made a practical reality when millions of Igbos start investing in their homeland.

See the words of the so called "Anambra igbo" grin grin couldn't even hide the stench of wannabe. Just as incompetent as your average Niggerian. Buffoon, name the igbo businessman Etc that opposed Biafra? Excluding excluding the corrupt igbo leaders whom obviously would rather stay in a backwards nation that allows them to loot without any consequences, which igbo opposed Biafra? Infact, when Nnamdi was given bail, was it not an igbo businessman, a senator and a religious head aka movers of igbo society as you called them that used their own money to bail him out? Is it not your shithole government trying to punish the senator for supporting him? While I'm at it, when IPOB asked for a sit home; If only jobless youths as you delude yourself support biafra then why did that sit home respected and done by igbos all over the nation. Then again, you are an Afonja that delude themselves they grasp other people when they themselves are very clueless as hell in everything including there own damnselves. Dumbass let's do the math shall we. A group ofpeople have been screeching LOUDLY for Biafra since the 60s. A new generation, completely different from the 60s equally screeching the same thing. Hell based on what's seen on facebook where igbo children no more than 5-10 years old wearing biafran colors likewise singing the biafran national anthem over your niggeria anthem while in school meaning the next generation are equally already eager and choosen biafra over your niggeria but of course, to a typical niggerian with ignorance bigger than Africa itself you delude yourself that all that proves nothing despite the repeated number of people that told you animals how much they despise your shithole country and want nothing to do with liesk. Likewise increasing number of IPOB and other Biafra agitator group opening up worldwide. Hell an Australian statistic company literally disprove this bullshit you just shitted out from that waste you call brain. But then again, you the fool who wasn't aware of the comment given by your own past president attesting niggerian government intentionally marginalization of igbos so why would I be shocked your incompetent ass is unaware of an article of statistics that came out literally a week ago. Obviously, as long it opposes the delusion you tell brainless self, it is automatically dismissed. Let me break it down for you. According to a study reported literally a week ago, 80%.....let me emphasis it EIGHTY PERCENT igbos chosed Biafra over Niggeria. Only 20% choses a restructured niggeria. Do you understand that math nigga. It means MAJORITY of igbos have choosen Biafra. That is why that shithole niggeria is so, super, afraid of a common referendum that proven you people delusion that you tell yourselves to deceive as inaccurate or accurate. Next time you want to pretend to be from tribe, make sure you research and ask the people you pretending whussup. You are a comedian, laughable joke and funny thing about it is that you don't even realize. grin



A typical example of his comprehension issues. You see why I called you a witless clod? grin I made a statement about blacks being just as racist as whites, but due to being on the lower strata in the global power dynamics, they are less in a position to oppress others (others obviously meaning other races) than whites, which is the reason most are more preoccupied with white racism. The very reason I said blacks are just as racist as anyone is because they are more than willing to oppress each other as African ethnic squabbles, xenophobic unrests, genocides and civil wars prove. That you think you were somehow educating me on that is some funny ass shiit. You would do well in stand-up comedy. grin. That's the funny and sad thing about it even. Dig that your ostrich head deeper in that sand. Whatever helps you sleep at night, tell yourself that.

grin grin grin grin See pure stupidity. I'm extremely curious...what do you think you disproved? What do you think you actually said that actually supported your stand? Please pray tell. All you was contradict yourself again hilariously enough.
White are more likely to oppress people in their own countries in which they control you fucking idiot. You don't live in a colonization era anymore you incompetent fool. Whites can not oppress people in another nation they don't control with out the aid of people from that country. A white person cannot come to Niggeria and oppress Niggerians without the approval of your shithole leaders duh?? The sameis said for every nation they aren't the leaders and vice versa you slowpoke. Whites oppress people in a community they control hence minorities in those countries are more likely to insult and fear their oppression because that is justified. You niggas in Niggerians have no justification to even think a white person can oppress globally without aid from your leader. Just because you see yourselves as third world, inferior animals that whites can walk all over without zero resistance does not mean it is their responsibility for your inferority complex. Several African, Asian and Middle Eastern leaders have proven your stupidity ranting in which you think you actually make sense inaccurate. Come to 21st century with the rest of us and get your backwards ass out of the 16th century that your mind is stuck in. What a joke. Pathetic!!

Now that I'm done with that....i repeat my statement Niggerians have ZERO, NADA, ZILCH right to condemn racist whites when you motherfuckers are worse than they are. The fact you pigs are black and you do exactly how whites racist to to other blacks says everything. Your entire nation is epitome of black version of white racist so what makes you think you have any morality in comparison to them. Save us you lots pretentious hypocrisy.


It's funny you talk about how Nigerians are perceived abroad with their "sharp" activities and yet, it doesn't quite register that the activities of Igbos are probably as big a contribution as any to that perception. Asians and South Africans and Brazilians etc think Nigerians are all drug peddlers because of Igbos, your master race of niggas that don't belong in Nigeria with the rest of the savages. grin

I live aboard you incompetent fool. I know the exact reason why you niggerians are hated worldwide and drug dealing isn't one of it. Most of us have to deal with the reputation of that shithole hence i cut myself off it. Niggeria isn't even remotely in the top 10 well known drug dealing nations. You are not even remotely close to being seen as a drug pin nation. Niggerians are hated because of your scamming ways. You niggas are slimmy as Bleep!!! Not only are you slimmy, you motherfuckers walk around with head so stuck in your asses you think your shit don't stink. You act pretentious and shobbish to core like you people are not a worthless piece of shit that hail from worthless excuse of a country. You are hated deeply for your 419 ways and i should known cause I've traveled around the world and I've witness and seen how much you are despised. Excluding Taiwan (which actually have more drug pin title than your niggeria) and South Africa, drug dealing ain't the reason y'all niggas are hated. You doubt me, go to any nation of your choice and ask and i bet you, most will say it's because of una slimmy, snobbish, pretentious deluded superority behavior. I actually don't blame anybody for hating y'all...i have that same feeling for you animals. You people and that shithole is a useless piece of shit. A huge huge blemish in the face of mama africa


And no Anioma was rebuilt from any destruction in the civil war. Yeah, houses here and there were affected, civilians were massacred by Murtala Mohammed, but the Biafran war was largely about a bunch of rifle-wielding incompetent Nigerian soldiers taking almost 3 years to put down the insurgency of rag-tag, poorly armed, poorly trained Biafran soldiers, some of who were marching in parades with bamboo poles and cassava sticks. There was very little mechanized warfare to really cause serious damage. The biggest infrastructural harm to the East was Biafran soldiers destroying their own Niger Bridge to stop Nigerian soldiers from crossing. grin Your Anioma homeland is as much a shithole as much of the country is. So tone down the chest-beating horseshit.

ROTFLMFAOOO grin grin grin grin grin grin
This was written by a so called Anambraian See onye Anambra grin grin grin incompetent fool read a Goddamn history book. If you too lazy to do so there are LITERALLY thousands of igbos that experienced that war that are still fucking alive and can narrate history. LISTEN to them cause they been speaking for awhile. At least wait till they die to try distort history like you animals from land of waste are known for. Infact in onitsha alone, onitsha was crumbled that only few buildings was left standing. A statement that onitsha people themselves says. Likewise onitsha was not the only place. The entire fucking SE experienced the same scenario likewise some parts of river state, Akwa Ibom, CR and my side of delta. My parents, grandmother and few of my aunts and uncles experienced the beginning and ending of biafra war likewise my bestfriend's grandfather was a biafran solider you buffoon ass and just like most igbos and my bestfriend grandfather, ibibios, that experienced the war are still alive and loudly talking about it. Wait till they fucking die off before trying to rewrite history like your skull mining region is known for. grin


And like I said, I'm concerned for your health the way you're frothing in the mouth like a rabid dog in your bitterness and rage. grin The more laughable part is using laughter emoticons while raging like a rabid dog. grin Ndo nwanne.

Look who is concerned of someone health for displaying bitterness, the same buffoon that displayed bitterness for pages straight. I'm not ashamed to say i fucking despise everything about your shithole and most of you waste animals from west. I never denied it and always proud to say it and display bile towards it.
But unlike you, I do so proudly as who the Bleep i am. While in your case, based on the comment of people that know you more than I do on this forum; the daily activity of you is daily bitterness, insult and bile towards igbos while pretending to be Igbo. Your own hatred have manifested to the point you actually pretend to be part of the tribe and people you despise so you can insult and cause problem among them case in point your pathetic attempt to start an Anambra vs. Abia hating on this thread. A task that failed woefully on your ass. We both are bitter, bile niggas but in your case, you should worry about your health more. not only are you bitter, you pretending to be wtf you are not to display your bitterness is an act of mad, crazy individual. You need psychiatric help. Think about your own health first nigga. Charity begins at home grin

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by KratosCorp: 8:04pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


The Democrats and Republicans represented very different things generations ago. Comparing and trying to link the values of Jim Crow era Democrats in the highly conservative Deep South with 21st century Democrats in California, New York, Illinois etc is patently silly and intellectually dishonest. The schism in Republican and Democratic politics in the Jim Crow era had nothing to do with the modern issues that divide both bases. It is a fact that millions of the voting base of Southern Democrats and segregationist Southern politicians shifted allegiances to the Republicans after the victories of the Civil Rights activists. Are you trying to suggest that those Democrats were "liberals"? grin I'd like to see you give it a try to explain how that works.

Your article links are dissenting voices to a widely studied phenomenon which has broad academic consensus. Though, if you'll believe the typical Republicans, college academics and intellectuals are part of the liberal conspiracy to destroy America.

Trying to portray Democrats as the real party of racists is........I don't know if that is just dishonesty or you're genuinely THAT mooronic. grin You could randomly poll 1,000 people that post on Stormfront, Daily Stormer, Breitbart, 4chan, 8chan, Reddit sub-forums and just about any site that gives a platform to noxious racists, white nationalists and neo-nazis and not a single one of them would vote Democrat. This is why I call many black conservatives "useful idiots". It's perfectly plausible to espouse conservative orthodoxy about limited government, fiscal responsibility, anti-abortion activism etc without normalizing and defending the visible hard-right extremists. I lean liberal, but that doesn't mean I support every typical liberal talking point


You are just being illogical and smart by half. Why did you omit antifa from the list? Oh I guess, the typical dem insanity of normalizing the abnormal and demonizing the normal, huh?

You cannot use a few white racists to define the entire Republican party and yet cry when you are reminded that the democrats were historically in bed with KKK and slave owners.

If you want to talk about the contemporary politics, then quit projecting the historic racism and anti-black heritage of the democratic party to the republicans. That's where intellectual honesty begins in this matter.

By the, way why is white nationalism so evil whilst black nationalism is celebrated?

Why do you cheer about the idea of black power/pride yet get offended when someone else says that it's okay to be white?

You attack people for being white nationalists, yet you cheer groups (like Antifa and other SJWs) who openly call for white genocide. How does that make any sense to you?


UK people have protested the funding constraints of the NHIS. But there is overwhelming universal appreciation of the system in the UK (97% support) from just about every party and they are proud of it. As are the Canadians. Or the Aussies. Or the French. Or the Germans. Etc etc etc. Meanwhile, healthcare is a heavily polarizing issue in the US where consistent polling shows a small majority want single-payer universal coverage while a large minority are opposed. Unfortunately, the US isn't really a representative democracy (as gun advocacy proves where a minority get their way over the wishes of the considerable majority) and elite interests are promulgated by politicians - mostly Republicans.


The MAGA movement won't "remain" there. It's easy for victors, power-drunk and reveling in their victories to get cocky. But the reality is the pendulum swings every 4 to 8-year cycle. In that 2-party system, every movement is eventually toppled by the opposing backlash.


You did not answer my question. Who says that the US must be like the other nations? If those other nations are better off, why are they depending on the US on several other issues? They exploit the US benevolence, rob the US workers to fund porous universal nonsense in their zones out of pure ego and political domination.

Well, the reason they are still on that universal crap is because you can't stop it once you get it started. It's not because there is any data to show that it's the only good option.

And, by the way, where do you get your polarization data about american gun control advocacy and health care from? CNN and Twitter, right?



Yes, there's a reason. Because it's by far the most populated of the wealthy, advanced nations. Because it's an empire built an ocean away from the chaos that consumed warring Europeans and East Asians in the last century with no devastation on its homeland. Infact, they were the only country that came out of the immediate aftermath of World War 2 richer and more vibrant than when they went in and established themselves as the sole economic superpower in the new global order. That prosperity also incidentally came with a European-style generous welfare system and strong unions and support for the industrial and agrarian working class and federal investments in infrastructure, public housing etc and tighter constraints on the banks and heavier taxes on the corporate elites established under Roosevelt's "New Deal" in the 30's. To simplistically attribute America's prosperity to some jingoistic nonsense about "free market, individual liberty...blah, blah..blah" is pretty damn far from true.

You see,.my problem with folks like you is that you cannot differentiate between your opinion and facts.

Well, here are the facts about American growth and dominance:

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The European Union is the second largest economy in the world (if treated as a single country) in nominal terms and according to purchasing power parity (PPP). ... The GDP per capita (PPP) was $37,800 in 2015, compared to $57,084 in the United States and $14,340 in China.

I would have just given you a link; but I know you won't read it. So, I will just put the detailed facts here because I cannot put it any better:

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The period from 1870-1900 was around when the U.S. became the dominant economy. This was the period immediately following the American Civil War, which lasted from 1861 to 1865.

Factors contributing to U.S. economic growth post-civil war:


The victory of North over South virtually paved the way for rapid industrial development post-Civil War. The Northern industry, which had expanded before and during the war, surged ahead. The slave-labor system was abolished and cotton prices plunged, making the large cotton plantations of the South less profitable. The industrial advantages of North led industrialists to dominate many social and political aspects of the U.S.

New discoveries - Coal in Appalachian Mountains stretching from Pennsylvania south to Kentucky, Oil in Western Pennsylvania, and Iron Ore in the Lake Superior region. These discoveries led to the development of the U.S.'s industrial infrastructure.

Development of Railroads. Railroad mileage in the U.S. more than tripled between 1860 and 1880. By 1869, the First Transcontinental Railroad was constructed, which linked formerly isolated areas with larger markets, leading to the rise of commercial farming, ranching and mining. London and Paris poured investment money in Railroads. American steel production surpassed the combined total of Britain, Germany and France.

Increased mechanization of industry. Redesign in manufacturing and assembly processes were made to search for cheaper ways of creating more products. A major thrust was placed on productivity, making many factories an assemblage of unskilled laborers performing simple and repetitive tasks under the direction of skilled foremen and engineers.


Engineering Colleges were established to meet the huge demand for expertise resulting from mechanization. Modern management, with clear chains of command and statistical reporting, was invented. Roles of middle managers were systematized and explicit career tracks were set up, starting in railroads and expanding into finance, manufacturing and trade. This led to a rapid growth of a new middle class.


Inventions in applied technology. From 1860 to 1890, 500,000 patents were issued for new inventions. Companies like AT&T helped build a good communication network. Scientists like Nikola Tesla and Edison (who also co-founded General Electric) invented a number of electrical devices, providing a huge boost to power plants. Rockefeller founded the Standard Oil Company, consolidating the oil industry and producing mostly kerosene.


American Federation of Labor (AFL) was founded in 1886 as an alliance of craft unions and became the largest union grouping in the U.S. The union provided funds, healed splits and disputes in affiliated unions, prevented jurisdictional battles and empowered locals to obtain higher wages.

The period post-Civil War till the turn of the 20th century witnessed the greatest period of economic growth in American history.

- From 1869 to 1879, the US economy grew at a rate of 6.8% for real GDP and 4.5% for real GDP per capita.

- In the 1880s, the wealth of U.S. grew at an annual rate of 3.8%, while the GDP was also doubled.

- Capital investment in the 1880s increased by nearly 500% and capital formation also doubled!
Long-term interest rates declined to 3 from 3.5%.

- Between 1865 and 1898, the output of wheat increased by 256%, corn by 222%, coal by 800% and miles of railway track by 567%.

- By 1890, the USA surpassed Britain for first place in manufacturing output.

- By the beginning of the 20th century, per capita incomes were double that of Germany or France, and 50% higher than Britain

- The growth momentum continued into the 20th century with electrification, mass production, regulations and privatization.

https://www.quora.com/Economic-History-At-what-point-did-the-US-become-the-biggest-economy-in-the-world


For your information, China and India were the predominant economies for centuries. The US took over as a result of industrial and information revolution - not just your over convenient WW2 narrative.

Follow the above link to see the chart of World GDP from the 1000s.
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by KratosCorp: 8:39pm On Mar 07, 2018
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miserable thing don't ever quote me in your miserable life again. I can't remember talking to you.
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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by MonPro: 9:16pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi the swine is still reeling from the pains metted out on his anti-Igbo skull. Kikikikikiki!

Nonaira's koboko on his skull made him deny defending the shithole zoogeria... automatic skull resetting. grin grin grin

The afonja impostor really suffer no be small.. grin

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by flyn: 9:19pm On Mar 07, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Na so e still dey pain you?
That your grown, married asss still won't grow up and you come here to post chest-beating nonsense and think everybody must be like you.
Ndo biko nwanne.
My Osun brother well don oo

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Obi1kenobi(m): 1:31am On Mar 08, 2018
KratosCorp:


You are just being illogical and smart by half. Why did you omit antifa from the list? Oh I guess, the typical dem insanity of normalizing the abnormal and demonizing the normal, huh?

You cannot use a few white racists to define the entire Republican party and yet cry when you are reminded that the democrats were historically in bed with KKK and slave owners.

If you want to talk about the contemporary politics, then quit projecting the historic racism and anti-black heritage of the democratic party to the republicans. That's where intellectual honesty begins in this matter.

By the, way why is white nationalism so evil whilst black nationalism is celebrated?

Why do you cheer about the idea of black power/pride yet get offended when someone else says that it's okay to be white?

You attack people for being white nationalists, yet you cheer groups (like Antifa and other SJWs) who openly call for white genocide. How does that make any sense to you?
You've evoked a pretty stunning number of strawman arguments, asserting positions I never did as if I made them, and misrepresenting and distorting others.
Nowhere have I ever told you I support any "black nationalism" (not even sure such a movement exists or has any significant following). Or that I support antifa. I'm not aware of any "SJW" groups calling for any white genocide (in Republican land among far right supporters, advocating for the respect and recognition of the dignity of immigrants, minorities etc is "white genocide" ). Don't force words in my mouth.

You did not answer my question. Who says that the US must be like the other nations? If those other nations are better off, why are they depending on the US on several other issues? They exploit the US benevolence, rob the US workers to fund porous universal nonsense in their zones out of pure ego and political domination.

Well, the reason they are still on that universal crap is because you can't stop it once you get it started. It's not because there is any data to show that it's the only good option.

And, by the way, where do you get your polarization data about american gun control advocacy and health care from? CNN and Twitter, right?




You see,.my problem with folks like you is that you cannot differentiate between your opinion and facts.

Well, here are the facts about American growth and dominance:

1.

I would have just given you a link; but I know you won't read it. So, I will just put the detailed facts here because I cannot put it any better:

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For your information, China and India were the predominant economies for centuries. The US took over as a result of industrial and information revolution - not just your over convenient WW2 narrative.

Follow the above link to see the chart of World GDP from the 1000s.

India has never been a "predominant economy" in history or even close to it. That's a strange assertion. Neither were China ever anything more than a regional East Asian power. The imperial, colonial powers of Europe were America's only true rivals in the quest for geopolitical dominance of the globe before the World Wars.
You can google the word "gun control polls" and see a million surveys on American support for gun control measures.
Your quotes from links about the root of US economic prosperity hardly contradicts my point that fiscally conservative and fiscally liberal policies have had their share of successes in US economic history and there's no foolproof formula for what makes American greatness. You didn't understand the point.

To be honest, we'd be here all day, all week, all month, all year etc if we had to start debating the merits of Democratic and Republican economic policy, so it's an exercise in futility. People ten times smarter and more erudite on the topic than us who are Professors in institutions like Harvard and Princeton and Yale and Oxford etc have debated this shiit for generations and generations from now, people will still be debating it and come to no consensus. If you're a fiscal conservative, i respect your opinion and belief system, but I certainly don't share it. That's about as far as I'll go with it. At least, unlike the window-licking reetards I've been dealing with here, you're not vacant between the ears.
Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Obi1kenobi(m): 1:37am On Mar 08, 2018
Nonaira3:


The fact you are crying all over this thread regarding iwobi stands is all proof need be. The fact you were crying because not one igbo opposed iwobi stand and proud of his achievement is all proof need be. The biggest fact you attacked an abian and called Abia names simply for calling out Edo and claimed Edo is better and had more respectable people or something along the line is all proof need be. If you were not in deep pain about your shithole being mocked, laughed and support that you lots rot in that hellhole on this thread likewise irritated that Iwobi choose to support a group that keeps you out of their progressive country, you wouldn't have been on this thread crying for several pages now while masquerading as an igbo from Anambra. Your own act betrays you nincompoop. grin



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So funny that this brainless fool have been in severe tears because an Iwobi joined a "Nazi party filled with racist whites" yet this savage animal is right here and there proud to stamp in the Nigger Area title given to him by hilariously enough a Racist white who have even been recorded of having zero regards for Africans. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin imagine the stupidity and the hypocrisy. Dumbass the Iwobi you attack, you literally another version of him. Just like he supports as you called you "a racist white party", you support a racist white colonizer. You are just a yes massa slave like you say he is. The only difference is you are too stupid to even realize it.

Now in terms of national identity you fool, what makes you a country men is when you have citizenship of a nation....what gives that citizenship is proof of your nationality aka a passport, identity card and idk if niggeria has one but a social security card. When a person denouces a nation by getting rid of any aspect that prove citizenship of a country, then they loose that citizenship. Hence, if i choose to visit that shithole you hail from, which by God's grace I never do ever, I'll need to get a visa to visit as since, I have nothing to prove niggeria citizenship excluding my parents. There's a reason Americans without a passport get stranded in a foreign Nation until their government proves that there are infact American citizenship. That's common sense. But then again I'm not shocked. You come from a country where your own president told you people that a man went through the International Airport and got on an international airline without a passport
and yet you motherfukers believed him. What do I expect from a man from a Land filled with illiterates obviously you're going to be an illiterate as well obviously. So am I shocked? No. Now let's move on the next stupidity of nationality that you just wrote.



See the words of the so called "Anambra igbo" grin grin couldn't even hide the stench of wannabe. Just as incompetent as your average Niggerian. Buffoon, name the igbo businessman Etc that opposed Biafra? Excluding excluding the corrupt igbo leaders whom obviously would rather stay in a backwards nation that allows them to loot without any consequences, which igbo opposed Biafra? Infact, when Nnamdi was given bail, was it not an igbo businessman, a senator and a religious head aka movers of igbo society as you called them that used their own money to bail him out? Is it not your shithole government trying to punish the senator for supporting him? While I'm at it, when IPOB asked for a sit home; If only jobless youths as you delude yourself support biafra then why did that sit home respected and done by igbos all over the nation. Then again, you are an Afonja that delude themselves they grasp other people when they themselves are very clueless as hell in everything including there own damnselves. Dumbass let's do the math shall we. A group ofpeople have been screeching LOUDLY for Biafra since the 60s. A new generation, completely different from the 60s equally screeching the same thing. Hell based on what's seen on facebook where igbo children no more than 5-10 years old wearing biafran colors likewise singing the biafran national anthem over your niggeria anthem while in school meaning the next generation are equally already eager and choosen biafra over your niggeria but of course, to a typical niggerian with ignorance bigger than Africa itself you delude yourself that all that proves nothing despite the repeated number of people that told you animals how much they despise your shithole country and want nothing to do with liesk. Likewise increasing number of IPOB and other Biafra agitator group opening up worldwide. Hell an Australian statistic company literally disprove this bullshit you just shitted out from that waste you call brain. But then again, you the fool who wasn't aware of the comment given by your own past president attesting niggerian government intentionally marginalization of igbos so why would I be shocked your incompetent ass is unaware of an article of statistics that came out literally a week ago. Obviously, as long it opposes the delusion you tell brainless self, it is automatically dismissed. Let me break it down for you. According to a study reported literally a week ago, 80%.....let me emphasis it EIGHTY PERCENT igbos chosed Biafra over Niggeria. Only 20% choses a restructured niggeria. Do you understand that math nigga. It means MAJORITY of igbos have choosen Biafra. That is why that shithole niggeria is so, super, afraid of a common referendum that proven you people delusion that you tell yourselves to deceive as inaccurate or accurate. Next time you want to pretend to be from tribe, make sure you research and ask the people you pretending whussup. You are a comedian, laughable joke and funny thing about it is that you don't even realize. grin




grin grin grin grin See pure stupidity. I'm extremely curious...what do you think you disproved? What do you think you actually said that actually supported your stand? Please pray tell. All you was contradict yourself again hilariously enough.
White are more likely to oppress people in their own countries in which they control you fucking idiot. You don't live in a colonization era anymore you incompetent fool. Whites can not oppress people in another nation they don't control with out the aid of people from that country. A white person cannot come to Niggeria and oppress Niggerians without the approval of your shithole leaders duh?? The sameis said for every nation they aren't the leaders and vice versa you slowpoke. Whites oppress people in a community they control hence minorities in those countries are more likely to insult and fear their oppression because that is justified. You niggas in Niggerians have no justification to even think a white person can oppress globally without aid from your leader. Just because you see yourselves as third world, inferior animals that whites can walk all over without zero resistance does not mean it is their responsibility for your inferority complex. Several African, Asian and Middle Eastern leaders have proven your stupidity ranting in which you think you actually make sense inaccurate. Come to 21st century with the rest of us and get your backwards ass out of the 16th century that your mind is stuck in. What a joke. Pathetic!!

Now that I'm done with that....i repeat my statement Niggerians have ZERO, NADA, ZILCH right to condemn racist whites when you motherfuckers are worse than they are. The fact you pigs are black and you do exactly how whites racist to to other blacks says everything. Your entire nation is epitome of black version of white racist so what makes you think you have any morality in comparison to them. Save us you lots pretentious hypocrisy.



I live aboard you incompetent fool. I know the exact reason why you niggerians are hated worldwide and drug dealing isn't one of it. Most of us have to deal with the reputation of that shithole hence i cut myself off it. Niggeria isn't even remotely in the top 10 well known drug dealing nations. You are not even remotely close to being seen as a drug pin nation. Niggerians are hated because of your scamming ways. You niggas are slimmy as Bleep!!! Not only are you slimmy, you motherfuckers walk around with head so stuck in your asses you think your shit don't stink. You act pretentious and shobbish to core like you people are not a worthless piece of shit that hail from worthless excuse of a country. You are hated deeply for your 419 ways and i should known cause I've traveled around the world and I've witness and seen how much you are despised. Excluding Taiwan (which actually have more drug pin title than your niggeria) and South Africa, drug dealing ain't the reason y'all niggas are hated. You doubt me, go to any nation of your choice and ask and i bet you, most will say it's because of una slimmy, snobbish, pretentious deluded superority behavior. I actually don't blame anybody for hating y'all...i have that same feeling for you animals. You people and that shithole is a useless piece of shit. A huge huge blemish in the face of mama africa



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This was written by a so called Anambraian See onye Anambra grin grin grin incompetent fool read a Goddamn history book. If you too lazy to do so there are LITERALLY thousands of igbos that experienced that war that are still fucking alive and can narrate history. LISTEN to them cause they been speaking for awhile. At least wait till they die to try distort history like you animals from land of waste are known for. Infact in onitsha alone, onitsha was crumbled that only few buildings was left standing. A statement that onitsha people themselves says. Likewise onitsha was not the only place. The entire fucking SE experienced the same scenario likewise some parts of river state, Akwa Ibom, CR and my side of delta. My parents, grandmother and few of my aunts and uncles experienced the beginning and ending of biafra war likewise my bestfriend's grandfather was a biafran solider you buffoon ass and just like most igbos and my bestfriend grandfather, ibibios, that experienced the war are still alive and loudly talking about it. Wait till they fucking die off before trying to rewrite history like your skull mining region is known for. grin



Look who is concerned of someone health for displaying bitterness, the same buffoon that displayed bitterness for pages straight. I'm not ashamed to say i fucking despise everything about your shithole and most of you waste animals from west. I never denied it and always proud to say it and display bile towards it.
But unlike you, I do so proudly as who the Bleep i am. While in your case, based on the comment of people that know you more than I do on this forum; the daily activity of you is daily bitterness, insult and bile towards igbos while pretending to be Igbo. Your own hatred have manifested to the point you actually pretend to be part of the tribe and people you despise so you can insult and cause problem among them case in point your pathetic attempt to start an Anambra vs. Abia hating on this thread. A task that failed woefully on your ass. We both are bitter, bile niggas but in your case, you should worry about your health more. not only are you bitter, you pretending to be wtf you are not to display your bitterness is an act of mad, crazy individual. You need psychiatric help. Think about your own health first nigga. Charity begins at home grin

Still foaming in the mouth. Still rabid. Still unhinged. Bitter. Delusional. Incoherent. Witless. All these hours after you read my comment, this meandering, long-winded, barely intelligible twaddle was what you spent your time to come up with: probably exhausting hours. grin At least you admitted you're bitter.

If I'm going to respond substantively to a long epistle, it has to be worth my time. And cogently stated. And coherent. And concise without digressing all over the place as you rave and foam and drool like a rabid dog.You and your clique of inbred cretins aren't up to scratch unfortunately. Good night. smiley

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Re: Toni Iwobi Elected In Italy As First Black Senator by Nonaira3: 2:41am On Mar 08, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Still foaming in the mouth. Still rabid. Still unhinged. Bitter. Delusional. Incoherent. Witless. All these hours after you read my comment, this meandering, long-winded, barely intelligible twaddle was what you spent your time to come up with: probably exhausting hours. grin At least you admitted you're bitter.

If I'm going to respond substantively to a long epistle, it has to be worth my time. And cogently stated. And coherent. And concise without digressing all over the place as you rave and foam and drool like a rabid dog.You and your clique of inbred cretins aren't up to scratch unfortunately. Good night. smiley

Oooo what a nice way of bowing out due your inability to defend the stupidity you displayed on here which resulted to you getting laughed and mocked at by others. Sucks to be you. Despite your pitiful attempt to display an act of intellect on here, noone fell for it. People can still see through your cloak and see you as the brainless goat that you are. Hence, you single handily, with zero aid from anyone, made your own self a laughing stock. Must be sad to be the butt of the joke yet you delude yourself you display any form of intellect based on your arguments. I bet you didn't wonder why you were being slapped silly by pretty much everyone you engaged on this thread. Hell I will not be shocked if you deluded yourself into thinking there is someone you addressed on this thread, in which you came out victorious. A senseless monkey that actually delude himself that he's making sense.

What is even the comical thing about you, buffoon thinks the reason for my late reply is to analyze and think of a reply to his post grin grin grin grin ;. Do you honestly think your comment is a post worth that privilege? Do you honestly deluded yourself that that rambles of hypocrisy and stupidity that you wrote was worth that. ROTFLMFAOOO. Now i see why the rest of them have been laughing at you throughout this thread...You truly are a braindead comedian. Nigga some of us are not a jobless he goat that spends his entire day on an online platform arguing left and right like yourself. Some of us have a career..something that is obvious you lack considering how long you stayed on this thread arguing with people since it was opened, only to take a break to sleep. Pathetic! Don't ever delude yourself by elevating anything written by you as something worth a second thought on how to reply. Don't even decieve yourself. You really should take my advice and seek a psychiatrist help. Not only do you have identity disorder filled by your bitterness, you equally displayed signs of schizophrenia through your grandiose delusion. Truly seek a professional help. I'll pray for you

Now go back to getting your ass handed to you by karatos. It is obvious you like getting your ass whupped and dragged through the mud. Go back to being the butt of the joke. It's your calling afterall.

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