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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:02pm On Mar 07, 2018
EgunMogaji:
We waste so much money on things during the build. We shouldn’t have to encase wires in plastic pipes.
for a room self contain yes lol for a duplex no way.. clusters if wire everywhere... someone is inviting fire then
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:04pm On Mar 07, 2018
earthrealm:


i think the piping protects the cable from rodents in the roof, and inside the ground or walls, makes for retreieval and change of bad/faulty cables easier...it can simply be pulled out...imagine if no piping and the cable was encased by cement, any cable fault will entail chiselling the wall or floor

I’m thinking further than that.

Why build with concrete in the first instance.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:06pm On Mar 07, 2018
twinskenny:
for a room self contain yes lol for a duplex no way.. clusters if wire everywhere... someone is inviting fire then

Not really.

Think outside of the box.

What does downstairs wiring have to do with upstairs?

I’m not claiming that I have the answer but it’s worth discussing.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 9:14pm On Mar 07, 2018
kopell:
If you have any information or anybody that has any link on full details of the new law please share it, so we can have better ideal of how is going to affect us all thanks.
https://www.nairaland.com/4385991/land-use-charge-facts-benefits i think this will be use full.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:45pm On Mar 07, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I’m thinking further than that.

Why build with concrete in the first instance.

Why not build with concrete in the first instance?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:48pm On Mar 07, 2018
diordaves:


Why not build with concrete in the first instance?

1) ease of running electricals and plumbing

2) reduces transportation of materials

3) less structural weight = lower cost

4) better intricate designs

5) concrete is not environmentally friendly
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:26pm On Mar 07, 2018
EgunMogaji:


1) ease of running electricals and plumbing

2) reduces transportation of materials

3) less structural weight = lower cost

4) better intricate designs

5) concrete is not environmentally friendly

1) ease of running electricals and plumbing: but same with a well planned and executed bricks and mortar.


2) reduces transportation of materials: Not really; about the same with bricks and mortar

3) less structural weight = lower cost: but inferior structural solidity and stability to bricks and mortar

4) better intricate designs: but bricks and mortar not doing too badly in intricate designs


5) concrete is not environmentally friendly: True but only in the short run.

I will go for concrete brick and mortar build any day and plan properly.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:33pm On Mar 07, 2018
diordaves:


1) ease of running electricals and plumbing: but same with a well planned and executed bricks and mortar.


2) reduces transportation of materials: Not really; about the same with bricks and mortar

3) less structural weight = lower cost: but inferior structural solidity and stability to bricks and mortar

4) better intricate designs: but bricks and mortar not doing too badly in intricate designs


5) concrete is not environmentally friendly: True but only in the short run.

I will go for concrete brick and mortar build any day and plan properly.

I disagree with all the points you made. We’ll leave it at agree to disagree grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by cjrane: 2:56am On Mar 08, 2018
spyder880:


This post mirrors what is happening in the south east and south south, I tthink it's a lack of lands and a ballooning population that is driving this culture of building upwards since the early 80s. In most urban cities like Onitsha, PH, Enugu, Aba, Owerri and Asaba, houses are rising higher than 4 floors.

An old neighbourhood in Onitsha.

Where ever in the world where demand for land is high due to large population, the only way to provide decent accommodation is to build upwards. Even in New York, Berlin or Tokyo.

I just wish the government will be a little responsible to provide paved streets. Even if with interlocking stones.

More importantly to implement the neighborhood water supply system used in American small towns instead of using the antiquated and unworkable central city water works system that is too cumbersome and too large to maintain. Awada needs to have it's own water works system built from contribution from interested buildings and the water works at the edge of the layout will supply every house in the area with water.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 7:45am On Mar 08, 2018
topsy23:


There is no much advantage in terms of cost but some walls wont be chiselled.

The disadvantage is that it will not make the job neat. Some cables would be run surface and might look somehow.

Why can't you take pain and do a full conduit system of wiring. If the house has been plastered, cutting machine can be of help instead of chiseling the plastered walls to avoid crack.

My suggestions anyway....

Half conduit involves running conduit pipes in all the walls but not in the ceiling.

Full conduit is running conduit pipes in all walls plus ceiling.

The difference is pipes in the ceiling.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 8:04am On Mar 08, 2018
siralos135:
Good day house! Pls what are the pros and cons of half and full conduit piping for a house electrification.

@Twinskenny,
@Topsy
Et all
Pls kindly help me with explanations for me to make an informed decision.
Thank u

Pros of full conduit
1. Reduces risk of electrically caused fires in the ceiling (sparks are contained within the pipes and do not get exposed to wood in the ceiling)
2. Serviceability is increased (burnt wiring can be replaced without accessing the ceiling)
3. Risk of short circuit at wire crossings is eliminated.

Cons of full conduit
Basically increased costs due to more pipes and more wires required.

Pros of half conduit is opposite of cons of full conduit. That is reduced costs due to less pipes and less wires required

Cons of half conduit is also opposite of pros of full conduit.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 8:14am On Mar 08, 2018
I visited this site yesterday.

**Can you believe the house didn't have a 'German Floor'?

**The deck also didn't have any beams.

**All the columns frim ground floor nevrr made it to the upper floor.

**Walls are rack due to incorrect setting out from foundation.

**The bricklayer suggested and used 6" blocks for ALL upper floor walls including perimeter walls (implications in widow and plumbing), column sizes reduce from 225mm to 150mm etc..

They have ceiling fan hooks in the deck etc..

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:29am On Mar 08, 2018
KolaShangOne:
I visited this site yesterday.

**Can you believe the house didn't have a 'German Floor'?

**The deck also didn't have any beams.

**All the columns frim ground floor nevrr made it to the upper floor.

**Walls are rack due to incorrect setting out from foundation.

**The bricklayer suggested and used 6" blocks for ALL upper floor walls including perimeter walls (implications in widow and plumbing), column sizes reduce from 225mm to 150mm etc..

They have ceiling fan hooks in the deck etc..


And once it's plastered you wouldn't be able to easily tell.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:37am On Mar 08, 2018
@barryton sorry for late reply
Go for 4x2 H beam for the project
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bugmenot: 10:11am On Mar 08, 2018
@EgunMogaji


Are you still looking for a roofing guy? I might be able to find the guy who did mine. He was recommended by the first aluminum guys who supplied the roofing sheets. I had great experience with him, he even came back to fix a leak that was detected when the rains came. And yes, he is hands-on.

And he did not study computer science by the way. grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:19am On Mar 08, 2018
KolaShangOne:
I visited this site yesterday.

**Can you believe the house didn't have a 'German Floor'?

**The deck also didn't have any beams.

**All the columns frim ground floor nevrr made it to the upper floor.

**Walls are rack due to incorrect setting out from foundation.

**The bricklayer suggested and used 6" blocks for ALL upper floor walls including perimeter walls (implications in widow and plumbing), column sizes reduce from 225mm to 150mm etc..

They have ceiling fan hooks in the deck etc..


Just looking at the picture, you just have this hunch a thing or two has not been done properly with the building.

The balcony for one, to fix burglary proof needs some changes and improvement.

So were you called to improve the structural stability of the building? Why did you visit?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:21am On Mar 08, 2018
bugmenot:
@EgunMogaji


Are you still looking for a roofing guy? I might be able to find the guy who did mine. He was recommended by the first aluminum guys who supplied the roofing sheets. I had great experience with him, he even came back to fix a leak that was detected when the rains came. And yes, he is hands-on.

And he did not study computer science by the way. grin grin grin


grin

Thanks. Is he in Ibadan?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:27am On Mar 08, 2018
diordaves:


Just looking at the picture, you just have this hunch a thing or two has not been done properly with the building.

The balcony for one, to fix burglary proof needs some changes and improvement.

So were you called to improve the structural stability of the building? Why did you visit?

But it has the required parapet grin

KolaShangOne, with co visible columns, what's holding up the parapet?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bugmenot: 2:52pm On Mar 08, 2018


Lagos



EgunMogaji:


grin

Thanks. Is he in Ibadan?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 3:05pm On Mar 08, 2018
EgunMogaji:


But it has the required parapet grin

KolaShangOne, with co visible columns, what's holding up the parapet?

There were only about 2 columns that continued from the ground floor which were reduced to 6" columns from the 9". The rest 3-4 columns started from the deck as an after-thought. Infact, at the corners of the house where you would expect even a blockhead bricklayer to put columns, he put 2 in 4.

The parapet is obviously resting on the 6" blockwork.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 3:18pm On Mar 08, 2018
diordaves:


Just looking at the picture, you just have this hunch a thing or two has not been done properly with the building.

The balcony for one, to fix burglary proof needs some changes and improvement.

So were you called to improve the structural stability of the building? Why did you visit?

The Owner just got back and had a hunch something was wrong. His mum and uncle had been helping him manage it. They had no structural drawing for a storey building. So he called me to point out the deficiencies and make recommendations.

I mostly don't take jobs that have family persons as Chaperones. This shouldn't be interpreted wrongly though but family members have to have a limit of interference.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:46pm On Mar 08, 2018
KolaShangOne:


The Owner just got back and had a hunch something was wrong. His mum and uncle had been helping him manage it. They had no structural drawing for a storey building. So he called me to point out the deficiencies and make recommendations.

I mostly don't take jobs that have family persons as Chaperones. This shouldn't be interpreted wrongly though but family members have to have a limit of interference.



My brother, some family members are the worst set of people to deal with, I have many experiences where they will tell me to do this and that, I always tell them NO, and let them ask of money from their relatives whom I am working for.
Period.
Once I don't have direct contact with the owner of the job, I don't collect such jobs because the outcome is mostly bad and may spoil your NAME
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kenazuu(m): 4:01pm On Mar 08, 2018
EgunMogaji:


grin

Thanks. Is he in Ibadan?

Egun baba, are u looking for good roofer? I have one guy in Ibadan. U can try him.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 4:04pm On Mar 08, 2018
KolaShangOne:


The Owner just got back and had a hunch something was wrong. His mum and uncle had been helping him manage it. They had no structural drawing for a storey building. So he called me to point out the deficiencies and make recommendations.

I mostly don't take jobs that have family persons as Chaperones. This shouldn't be interpreted wrongly though but family members have to have a limit of interference.

segzy14:




My brother, some family members are the worst set of people to deal with, I have many experiences where they will tell me to do this and that, I always tell them NO, and let them ask of money from their relatives whom I am working for.
Period.
Once I don't have direct contact with the owner of the job, I don't collect such jobs because the outcome is mostly bad and may spoil your NAME

You people shouldn't get me started cheesy

If I write a 300 page book on my site experience with family people, people will ask for a second edition . Nigeria is a very tough place.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 5:09pm On Mar 08, 2018
segzy14:




My brother, some family members are the worst set of people to deal with, I have many experiences where they will tell me to do this and that, I always tell them NO, and let them ask of money from their relatives whom I am working for.
Period.
Once I don't have direct contact with the owner of the job, I don't collect such jobs because the outcome is mostly bad and may spoil your NAME

Exactly. And as I always say, blood is thicker than water.

They will still settle no matter what. And then they make you the bad person, spoil your name.

Someone like me I don't even know how to present arguments. I don't have power to talk at all.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 5:10pm On Mar 08, 2018
spyder880:




You people shouldn't get me started cheesy

If I write a 300 page book on my site experience with family people, people will ask for a second edition . Nigeria is a very tough place.

I believe you Oga Spyder. But you've managed it so well to avoid issues. You should definitely write the book. People like me need to learn from your approach..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:12pm On Mar 08, 2018
spyder880:


You people shouldn't get me started cheesy

If I write a 300 page book on my site experience with family people, people will ask for a second edition . Nigeria is a very tough place.

Oga it's dry on here so we need good entertainment grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:14pm On Mar 08, 2018
kenazuu:


Egun baba, are u looking for good roofer? I have one guy in Ibadan. U can try him.

I'm looking Sir. Is he an actual roofer though? He'll do the job himself not a tie-wearing executive grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 5:56pm On Mar 08, 2018
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 6:07pm On Mar 08, 2018
Don't risk your building with Lagos dredging salty sand use stonedust or Odo Ogun sharp sand.

Salty sand affects ur reinforcements in concrete. Tend to weak your structure in a short while.

Lagos state Material testing recommends Sonedust or Odo Ogun Sharp sand for concrete works.

...Build right
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:15pm On Mar 08, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I'm looking Sir. Is he an actual roofer though? He'll do the job himself not a tie-wearing executive grin
lmao baba oo which one be tie_wearing executive
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by siralos135: 6:26pm On Mar 08, 2018
This is the estimate I was given for a half conduit piping by the electrician.
My people in house....pls help me analyse the list.
Thank you!
@ twinskenny
@topsy
@ et al

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