Realdeals:
We need to examine those reports she said Sowore published about her, are they lies?

bekpo:


My friend, go get ur fact correctly, the least Jonathan sold crude oil was at $80 a barrel yet he was borrowing to pay salaries. Have u asked him what he did with d excess crude account left by his predicessor. Equally ask him how much he invested and or saved in his time that will answer ur question whether he was a saving president or a wastage and or a liability of a president.

TonyeBarcanista:

Stop all these beer parlor talk pls.

It was Yaradua that chose Jonathan after Obj gave him his name when the name of someone (NOT Duke) was rejected by Yar'adua.

In politics the Candidate choose who he is comfortable with (that is why Jonathan chose Sambo ahead of Lamido and Kwankwaso).

Duke wasn't even in the picture though he lobbied... I have my fact

CaptJeffry:
This is disheartening. I know Duke is a mafia but I never knew he could be evil minded towards an SS brother.

Where I've seen Duke and Ben Bruce in Los Angeles isn't a place one sees ordinary men. This is why I smile when people refer to them as nice guys.

famosh:


Why you dey lie blatantly? You no dey shame?

obailala:

Since you're so sure I twisted facts, kindly point out the twisted fact (if you can) or respectfully just hold your peace. I suppose that shouldnt be a difficult task if you really know what you're talking about. Thanks

obailala:
Facts are sacred, they cannot be changed or altered. This isnt a political argument, and most importantly, it isnt a GeJ vs PMb issue. It is an indisputable fact that NOI achieved far more for Nigeria under OBJ and basically rubbished her prior achievements under GeJ due to severe interference from oga at the top.

stonemasonn:
I heard Duke was offered the VP job but he rejected it.

CaptJeffry:
This is disheartening. I know Duke is a mafia but I never knew he could be evil minded towards an SS brother.

Where I've seen Duke and Ben Bruce in Los Angeles isn't a place one sees ordinary men. This is why I smile when people refer to them as nice guys.

Whynotthetruth:


Ok Sir

fergusen:
Sahara Reporters also implicated.
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/04/17/how-jonathan-conceded-2015-election-book-by-okonjo-iweala-reveals/

Bye bye to Sowore's 2019 ambition. My support withdrawn.

LadyExcellency:


]3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN:
EXTERNAL DEBT
Inherited: $3.94 billion Dollars

As At Now: $9.3 billion Dollars

[url]http://www.dmo.gov.ng/oci/edebtstock/docs/External%20Debt%20Stock%20as%20at%2030th%20June_%202014.pdf[/url]

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $47. 7 billion (As At December 31st, 2009)

As At Now: $38.2BILLION http://www.cenbank.org/intops/Reserve.asp
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1842363_2014foreignreserve_jpegb778234d0e84907de925a2b063c2355a


N/B:
Of the $9.3 billion EXTERNAL DEBT, Federal Government’s owes $6.36b, while ALL 36 States plus FCT owes $3.0 billion

The $60b he is quoting is fictitious and moreover, take foreign bonds and loans arbitrarily and putting them in CBN isn't growing reserve or ECA rather mortgaging our future.

deomelllo:


1. The incompetent woman warned us about recession back in 2012. Why? Was this under PMG or Jona?

2. The same incompetent and Jona introduced austerity back in 2014 when oil was selling for $78. Why? Was this under PMG or Jona?

3. The same incompetent woman and Jona borrowed money from 2012 till Jona's last month in office/May 2015.

She was practically borrowing hundreds of billions to pay workers salary.

4. The same incompetent woman was the economic coordinator, but she was so dumb, clueless and colluding with looters that she left a battered and unversified economy.

5. The so-called finance minister couldn't even account for every kobo of public funds. The whole economy was leaking funds from NNPC and other money-generating agencies looting funds and refusing to remit funds into federal accounts.

6. Madueke opened dozens of illegal accounts and looted billions of dollars under her nose, but the incompetent woman looked the other way.

7. The same incompetent and clueless woman and Jona stole $2 billion and gave it to DASUKI ATM to share with their crooked and corrupt PDP cronies.

So, the useless woman managed our economy so good that she was prescribing recession, introducing austerity, borrowing hundreds of billions till her last day in office to pay workers salary.

She was so good that she left us with a battered and undiversified economy, depleted ECA and foreign reserves.

You people are just too ignorant and clueless, you think we arrived at this stage by accident.

This woman introduced austerity measure and asked you to get ready to suffer when oil was selling for $78, but you want to like like a king when oil is selling for $27.

You ippbs are just too mentally clueless and lazy

chronique:


It's either you don't understand what you typed, or you forget things quickly. Go and read your no 3 item. You stated clearly that he was borrowing to pay salaries.

babaolofin:


Sir, I agreed with you totally. My vengeance is this, in 2008, oil rose to $118/barel the highest in world's history , the oil rose to $140/barel in 2013 , the woman was still borrowing money, El - Rufai, Charles Soludo & international economic analysts complained against the policy, they were shouting Nigeria is the best economy in Africa. To test our economic strength & for political reasons, America stopped buying oil, oil price fell but oil subsidy bazaar continued. She had no option but to borrow to pay salary. She should be ashamed of herself.

Whynotthetruth:


Ok Sir

fergusen:
see attached screenshot for excerpt from Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala's Autobiography. ‘Fighting Corruption is Dangerous: The Story Behind the Headlines,’
More details in the coming days.

Background info https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/04/17/how-jonathan-conceded-2015-election-book-by-okonjo-iweala-reveals/

chronique:


It's either you don't understand what you typed, or you forget things quickly. Go and read your no 3 item. You stated clearly that he was borrowing to pay salaries.

deomelllo:




www.nairaland.com/attachments/7014312_img20180423082845095_jpeg66503f52b94e3fb9c7e63c3bee308e3e



Again, you have poor, lousy and elementary reading and comprehension skills.


Your low IQ quipped you that 2 different statements on 2 different lines mean the same thing?

When you type and enter full stop before going to another line, that's the end of that statement.

One says she borrowed money from 2012 till Jona's last month in office/May 2015. TRUE

The other says she borrowed hundreds of billions to pay salaries. TRUE.

So, how heard is it to read and understand 2 different statements and simple English?

Are you slow?


Stop bothering me with your ignorant and elementary mentality rubbish.

Xander85:



As per your first attached link in which Okonjo-Iweala warned of a possible global recession; you conveniently overlooked the time the warning was given (2012), and the reason for giving it (a slide in the price of crude oil as well as the dire economic situation in Spain and Greece as possible triggers for another round of global recession). M'oron, the recession she warned about was a global recession, which she said may affect Nigeria. She never blamed the immediate past gov't like your god is doing.

Besides, the warning was given in 2012 and by the time they handed over to the incompetent, certificateless, waste-of-space that is Buhari, Nigeria had weathered the forewarned storm due to the steady and competent hands managing the economy at the time. By 2015 (a whole three years after), there was still no recession in the country. So you have inadvertently shown that the capable Okonjo-Iweala and her team should actually be commended for weathering the storm and seeing Nigeria through it.

As per the other link you attached in which the GEJ gov't was said to have borrowed in 2015 to pay salaries and fund the 2015 budget; yet again you're acting true to type by spinning each and every story to suit your hateful agenda.

Due to the fall in oyel prices, the budgeted benchmark was not met. What did this mean? It meant that for the 2015 budget to be executed with some level of success, funds had to be found to pay salaries and pay contractors so work wouldn't stop on contracts awarded. This is totally different from the assertion of the guy i responded to earlier on in the thread in which he boldly asserted that GEJ and Okonjo-Iweala borrowed billions of dollars to pay salaries. You see how a mischievous fella can lie, be economical with the truth and spin a story just to suit his agenda?

You claim the GEJ gov't borrowed hundreds of billions of naira from 2012 to 2015 to pay salaries, yet you only provided a link for the borrowing done in 2015...borrowing which i have given a satisfactory reason for. You see what i mean when i say you're devious and possibly suffering from a strong aversion to the truth? Give me links showing where billions of naira were borrowed to pay salaries in 2012 and 2013....i'm waiting!

You asserted Okonjo-Iweala left us an undiversified economy? It's like you never heard of the achievements recorded in agriculture (particularly rice cultivation) under Adesina. She left an undiversified economy, yet for the first time entertainment (nollywood and music), I-technology, E-commerce and agriculture sectors of the economy were so robust as to bump up the nations rebased GDP calculations to be able to surpass that of South Africa. Remember there was a time when Nigeria was mentioned in the same breath as the BRICs nations of Brazil, Russia, India and China?.....Well we can kiss that ambition goodbye thanks to your god Buhari and his deplorable team of incompetents!

You talk of billions of dollars being stolen by Allison-Madueke and Dasuki. When will you pathetic beings recover this purported billions you claim was stolen so we can hear word? This is three years now since Buhari has been in power; how much has actually been recovered from Dasuki and Allison-Madueke? Recovering the billions of dollars should be a doddle since you have proof! James Ibori and Alamesiegha were convicted in London for having sticky fingers, since you lot have proof that Allison-Madueke stole 'billions of dollars', how come she's still walking about free in the UK? Why haven't the purported billions been recovered?

You can pull that 'Dasuki and Allison-Madueke stole billions of dollars' stunt on anyone else but me mate! I ain't buying your bullshit!

chronique:



Get the Bleep out of here, you this dumb idiot! Look who is calling someone slow. I bet you went to a substandard school and they didn't teach you that when you are enumerating points and listing them 1 by 1 and explaining them, each note under the listed item should obviously be in reference to the point highlighted there. See who is talking about having a high IQ. How does full stop ending a statement correlate with both notes under the same point, meaning different things? Mumu that doesn't even know the difference between the words "hard and heard". I should have known I was conversing with a brain dead nitwit all along.

LadyExcellency:


Obasanjo handed Government to Yardua not Jonathan

The ECA under Obasanjo wasn't anything near $60B and Secondly the State Governments went to court to affirm the illegality of ECA.

Do you by chance mistake external reserve for Excess Crude Account? Because reserve in Naira can be equivalent to Dollar multiplied by exchange rate.

Selling European bonds and putting the "loans" collected from world banks and several countries in central bank doesn't make the money necessarily a savings.

obailala:
... NOI cleared all the nation's debts under OBJ and was able to accru national savings up to $60bn. But in a period when Nigeria enjoyed the largest unprecedented oil boom, national debts grew steadily to higher levels than it was before being cleared and no defined projects can be pointed out which those debts were used for. Similarly for foreign reserves and ECA, under OBJ NOI supervised these accounts growing from about $5bn to over $60bn. But under GEJ, the same NOI saw that same $60bn vaporize down to $30bn at a time when Nigeria earned its largest income.
....

obowunmi:


They were ALL PAID.

Average crude oil prices in 2012 were at historically high levels for the second year in a row. Brent crude oil averaged $111.67 per barrel, slightly above the 2011 average of $111.26


https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=9530

LadyExcellency:


]3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN:
EXTERNAL DEBT
Inherited: $3.94 billion Dollars

As At Now: $9.3 billion Dollars

[url]http://www.dmo.gov.ng/oci/edebtstock/docs/External%20Debt%20Stock%20as%20at%2030th%20June_%202014.pdf[/url]

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $47. 7 billion (As At December 31st, 2009)

As At Now: $38.2BILLION http://www.cenbank.org/intops/Reserve.asp
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1842363_2014foreignreserve_jpegb778234d0e84907de925a2b063c2355a


N/B:
Of the $9.3 billion EXTERNAL DEBT, Federal Government’s owes $6.36b, while ALL 36 States plus FCT owes $3.0 billion

The $60b he is quoting is fictitious and moreover, take foreign bonds and loans arbitrarily and putting them in CBN isn't growing reserve or ECA rather mortgaging our future.

Whynotthetruth:


Believe me Dear, I have these FACTS with me... it's just that i am tired of myopic, half baked,ignorant and sadistic postulations from that obailala of a guy...So I have to let him wallow in his delusion...He's a guy that argues sheepishly and is blinded by his ego and unwillingness to learn, unlearn and relearn in the midst of superior information and facts...You can argue with him if you so wish but as for me, let him ride on in ignorance

Whynotthetruth:


Ignorance isn't a plus...Read and learn my boy
What's FG recurrent expenditure for a month? how much was borrowed here? Is there any other place or month in which they borrowed to augment recurrent budget?

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/05/06/fg-borrows-n473bn-to-pay-salaries-okonjo-iweala/

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/182543-nigerian-govt-borrowing-billions-to-pay-salaries-okonjo-iweala.html

obailala:

Lol...
@LadyExcellency, quit trying to be clever by half, you aren't talking to children or dunces. Let's try an expose your deceit, those figures you quoted there, can you kindly quote the dates beside those figures?... The last time I checked, Nigeria's foreign reserves as at May 29th 2015 was about $28.6 billion; so in you post when you said "AS AT NOW", what date exactly was the "NOW" you were referring to?

By the way, I quoted figures which I am still eagerly waiting for you or anyone to dispute, you should have boldly mentioned me when you made the above post with those fraudulent figures instead of hiding by quoting someone else. Of course you couldn't directly face me to dispute my figures because they are simple facts which can very easily be verified by anyone via a google search.

Meanwhile @Whynotthetruth, the worst form of ignorance is the proud type. If I am wrong, I will be very happy t take correction if presented with verifiable facts and superior argument. You keep blabbing about facts, facts and facts but can't even supply a single one. If you truly have those verifiable figures which contradicts what I put up earlier, a smart person would have simply presented them instead of bleating about with insults. That you even endorsed the deceitful post by @LadyExcellency, that speaks volumes of your own level of knowledge. And you have the guts to think someone else is deluded? Tufia!

prince3009:


Second Niger Bridge which your dwarf brother Commissioner Osibande wanted to use in scamming us by saying his principal paid $4b for. Everything about these set of people from yonder na scamming! Their ordinary youths do wire wire...the ones in diaspora do credit card fraud and their government officials do political scamming!

Enjoy your LAKE rice boy!

famosh:


Boy, you should be advising yourself about ignorance & DELUSION not being a plus! So what specific month did the links tell you FG borrowed to pay? Did the links tell you FG borrowed just because budget wasn't ready? Didn't you see the major reason why FG had to borrow to pay salaries? You just copy & paste links without understanding what's there! Your type full Nairaland!

deomelllo:




What was the reason she borrowed to pay salaries? Do you mind explaining to us with verifiable link?

What was the reason Jona borrowed over N2 Trillion in less than 2 years? 2010-2012?

What was the reason she advised us to be ready for recession in 2012 when oil was selling for $110?

What was the reason why she asked us to be ready for hardship in 2014 when oil was selling for $80?

What was the reason why she introduced austerity measures in 2014 when oil was selling for close to $80?

All the above was because budgets wasn't ready?


I know you people must defend the indefensible, but why do it with ignorance, lies, deception and laughable claims?