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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 6:48pm On Jun 13, 2018
Primesky:


Really, these are the things that gives you headache?.
Wait a minute, if I tell you what God says now, will you believe?. I told you how much He loves you and how He desires to have a direct relationship with you, so that you will be the one asking Him any question you want, but no you said!. So how will you believe me if I tell you His reply?. You can't mock God at all.

So, God must dance to your every tune and satisfy your every wim before you believe He exist?. You don't seem to know where you are, if you do, you won't blink an eye first before accepting His offer of salvation. The very thing fallen angels are dying to have, now offered to you freely, but you, the needy, is the one asking and giving conditions. A drowning man can not give conditions for his freedom. But know this, one day, you will see and know and understand everything I am saying to you now. Only pray, it doesn't happen when it's rather too late.

Jesus saves?

The way u guys talk sometimes...

If I tell u I was with Donald Trump yesterday I am sure most of u will start asking a lot of questions just because Donald is the president of USA. A lot will not take me serious, many will dig into the said conversation and ask reasonable questions just to be sure I am not lying. Many will want to know my history, what I do for a living and how I even got Donald's contact.

But u people freely open ur mouth to say you spoke with the creator and when asked same questions u would ask me if I told u I spoke with Trump, the questioner becomes labeled.

Making claim that u spoke to the creator is a huge claim. Much bigger than I claiming I spoke with Trump. It requires a huge prove. If u can't prove it better not say it rather make flimsy excuses when asked to prove ur claim.

If God exists... Speaking with him (given the way the world has been as we know it) would be one of the greatest phenomena to happen amongst us. Such individual must definitely poses certain characteristics like ability to fly, tell the future or even not die.

If I can't be just ordinary to see trump, u definitely can't be just supernatural to speak with the creator. U need to be extrasuperordinary to do this.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys take the God u claim to worship for granted. Look around you. Look at the heavens, study the galaxies and other planets, look at the sun, the endless universe, the moon, humans and everything under the water. Imagine how long the earth must have existed and how many people have lived on earth. now u tell me u speak with the creator of all these?

Oga... Please we are no kids here, don't joke with our intelligence.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 6:54pm On Jun 13, 2018
winner01:
Must have been on front page. And I'll be as stupid as you are to constantly engage with or stay up at night to argue with them on the celebrity section. You have no logical explanation for consistently wanting to shove your unbelief up the throats of believers do you undecided

U preach lies in these section, someone tell it to ur face that u are lying... He is now shoving his belief down ur throat. How about u learning to shut up about ur lies.

Oops u are the only one mandated to shove his belief down others throat because Jesus asked u to do so in the Holy Bible.

Remind me why that early morning preacher woman was killed in Abuja some years ago.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by winner01(m): 8:25pm On Jun 13, 2018
frank317:


U preach lies in these section, someone tell it to ur face that u are lying... He is now shoving his belief down ur throat. How about u learning to shut up about ur lies.

Oops u are the only one mandated to shove his belief down others throat because Jesus asked u to do so in the Holy Bible.

Remind me why that early morning preacher woman was killed in Abuja some years ago.
I see you still wallow in your foolishness. I preach lies how is that your concern undecided I imagine myself being as stupid as you guys and going to an atheist gathering or an atheist forum everyday of my life just to tell them they are sharing lies amongst themselves undecided You can never rationally justify why you're mandated to remain on this section all the days of your life especially on something you don't even believe.

Ill rather remind you that more lives has been lost to atheism than all religion combined. angry

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 9:17pm On Jun 13, 2018
winner01:
I see you still wallow in your foolishness. I preach lies how is that your concern undecided I imagine myself being as stupid as you guys and going to an atheist gathering or an atheist forum everyday of my life just to tell them they are sharing lies amongst themselves undecided You can never rationally justify why you're mandated to remain on this section all the days of your life especially on something you don't even believe.

Ill rather remind you that more lives has been lost to atheism than all religion combined. angry

do atheist preach to you? how many times have you been walking on the street and stopped by atheist or how many times have atheists knock on your door?

Since you know your lies are not my business why are you preaching your foolish bible to me, why disturb me in the bus or knock on my door or stop me on the street?

Oga, go and hug tranformer... atheists will be here telling it to your face everyday that you preach lies. Stop coming to preach here and shoving your preaching down peoples throat if you know you dont want to be challenged... cry baby.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 9:40pm On Jun 13, 2018
frank317:


The way u guys talk sometimes...

If I tell u I was with Donald Trump yesterday I am sure most of u will start asking a lot of questions just because Donald is the president of USA. A lot will not take me serious, many will dig into the said conversation and ask reasonable questions just to be sure I am not lying. Many will want to know my history, what I do for a living and how I even got Donald's contact.

But u people freely open ur mouth to say you spoke with the creator and when asked same questions u would ask me if I told u I spoke with Trump, the questioner becomes labeled.

Making claim that u spoke to the creator is a huge claim. Much bigger than I claiming I spoke with Trump. It requires a huge prove. If u can't prove it better not say it rather make flimsy excuses when asked to prove ur claim.

If God exists... Speaking with him (given the way the world has been as we know it) would be one of the greatest phenomena to happen amongst us. Such individual must definitely poses certain characteristics like ability to fly, tell the future or even not die.

If I can't be just ordinary to see trump, u definitely can't be just supernatural to speak with the creator. U need to be extrasuperordinary to do this.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys take the God u claim to worship for granted. Look around you. Look at the heavens, study the galaxies and other planets, look at the sun, the endless universe, the moon, humans and everything under the water. Imagine how long the earth must have existed and how many people have lived on earth. now u tell me u speak with the creator of all these?

Oga... Please we are no kids here, don't joke with our intelligence.


I can hear from God, yes He does speak to me. God speaks to many of His children. That is a fact nobody can deny. What do you mean?. Do you think this is a joke?. I am a child of God for crying out loud, should
I lie about that?. While it may be difficult for you to speak with President Trump, since he's not your Father, will it be difficult for Trump Junior to do so?, Well, since you've made up your mind not to believe Him, how will you now hear Him. Are you also, His son?. That's the condition, and that's why we preach. But you want a shut cut! What you're doing now is the same thing the pharesses did and said to Jesus Christ. He very well denied them that prideful approach. Your believing it or not does not add nor subtract from me, neither will it stop me from enjoying the fellowship I have with Him.

God is not a man, so stop trying to explain Him and limit Him with your human reasoning, it won't work!. If He could become flesh and man just to save us, what is there in talking to His children?. In the very beginning, God usually came down to the garden of Eden to fellowship with Adam until Adam fell into sin. Is He a different God now than He was then?, sin is the only thing that blinds and deafen men's ears from hearing God. From His word, Visions, revelations, direct speech.

Genesis 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.


Has God stopped talking?.

Isaiah 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

So if God does not shout from heaven and call your name, He's not real?.

The truth is, God speaks to many persons around the word everyday, not just me. If you want to, come into the family!. But if you say until you hear Him directly, fine!. Yours is a special case, and you will surely hear Him, and see Him face to face. Brace yourself for it when the time comes!. That's the time for those who claim to be very wise, those who know more than others, those who want to teach God how He should relate with them, I say brace yourself for that time for it will come to your turn.

God is the realest person any where in the universe.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 9:53pm On Jun 13, 2018
dalaman:


You made a claim, prove that you aren't a liar by providing evidence. Failure to substantiate your claims means you are a liar. I am fired of your empty talk.

Stop lying to me.Just prove your claims and that's all.

You are responsible for what you choose to believe. I am not telling you a lie. The word of God is given to you. The bible is my evidence. I will not go beyond that.

If you want to hear God directly, come into His family and hear Him speak. You can't be outside demanding the rights of Sons. Which is why we preach to you. If you say no!, until I have physical evidence, then I will ask you to wait, because you and all who believe like you, will not only hear Him, but will also see Him. Then you can ask Him why He refused to call your name from heaven and tell you He loves you as a prove of His love. Be rest assured it will come. You will Remember this word.

Dear Lord I wish not that this one find out the truth when it's rather too late. May your grace that bringeth salvation appear to him so that he may be saved in Jesus name Amen!.

Before reknown atheists and scientists the turn around from this way of reasoning to believe and accept God, it takes only grace. Except you say, you're now wiser than they are.

Jesus is Lord forever?!.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by dalaman: 9:59pm On Jun 13, 2018
Primesky:


You are responsible for what you choose to believe. I am not telling you a lie. The word of God is given to you. The bible is my evidence. I will not go beyond that.

If you want to hear God directly, come into His family and hear Him speak. You can't be outside demanding the rights of Sons. Which is why we preach to you. If you say no!, until I have physical evidence, then I will ask you to wait, because you and all who believe like you, will not only hear Him, but will also see Him. Then you can ask Him why He refused to call your name from heaven and tell you He loves you as a prove of His love. Be rest assured it will come. You will Remember this word.

Dear Lord I wish not that this one find out the truth when it's rather too late. May your grace that bringeth salvation appear to him so that he may be saved in Jesus name Amen!.

Before reknown atheists and scientists the turn around from this way of reasoning to believe and accept God, it takes only grace. Except you say, you're now wiser than they are.

Jesus is Lord forever?!.

So you were talking empty talk after all? OK continue.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by OkaiCorne(m): 10:06pm On Jun 13, 2018
And yet... another theist vs atheist catfight thread...


This is getting stale undecided
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 10:52pm On Jun 13, 2018
Primesky:



I can hear from God, yes He does speak to me. God speaks to many of His children. That is a fact nobody can deny. What do you mean?. Do you think this is a joke?. I am a child of God for crying out loud, should
I lie about that?. While it may be difficult for you to speak with President Trump, since he's not your Father, will it be difficult for Trump Junior to do so?, Well, since you've made up your mind not to believe Him, how will you now hear Him. Are you also, His son?. That's the condition, and that's why we preach. But you want a shut cut! What you're doing now is the same thing the pharesses did and said to Jesus Christ. He very well denied them that prideful approach. Your believing it or not does not add nor subtract from me, neither will it stop me from enjoying the fellowship I have with Him.

God is not a man, so stop trying to explain Him and limit Him with your human reasoning, it won't work!. If He could become flesh and man just to save us, what is there in talking to His children?. In the very beginning, God usually came down to the garden of Eden to fellowship with Adam until Adam fell into sin. Is He a different God now than He was then?, sin is the only thing that blinds and deafen men's ears from hearing God. From His word, Visions, revelations, direct speech.

Genesis 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.


Has God stopped talking?.

Isaiah 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

So if God does not shout from heaven and call your name, He's not real?.

The truth is, God speaks to many persons around the word everyday, not just me. If you want to, come into the family!. But if you say until you hear Him directly, fine!. Yours is a special case, and you will surely hear Him, and see Him face to face. Brace yourself for it when the time comes!. That's the time for those who claim to be very wise, those who know more than others, those who want to teach God how He should relate with them, I say brace yourself for that time for it will come to your turn.

God is the realest person any where in the universe.

Oh plz God does not and has never spoken to anyone.

Glad u used trump junior and trump example.

If God spoke to you... Ask him any specific question about me. Simple.

If God speaks with u simply prove it. That's shouldn't be too hard.

I can ask my father anything... Sure since God is now ur father, u can ask him anything. Asking him when we will find a permanent cure for HIV.

Repeating that God speaks with u does not mean he spoke with u. Anyone can say anything.

Since u speak with God ask him if there exists another planet in the universe with beings.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 10:57pm On Jun 13, 2018
OkaiCorne:
And yet... another theist vs atheist catfight thread...


This is getting stale undecided

What else do u expect when people keep making claims they cannot substantiate.

There will be no back and forth if the guy can just prove beyond doubt that he speaks with the creator of the universe.

Let him tell me one very important mind boggling info the creator has ever given to him.

The lies in this forum are getting too much Abeg.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by M0ron: 9:42am On Jun 14, 2018
winner01:
Now someone is asking the right questions. They'll dance around it though.

Of course!
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by JeromeBlack: 10:23am On Jun 14, 2018
There shouldnt be any animosity. Everyone should follow what they believe
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:31am On Jun 14, 2018
frank317:


Oh plz God does not and has never spoken to anyone.

Glad u used trump junior and trump example.

If God spoke to you... Ask him any specific question about me. Simple.

If God speaks with u simply prove it. That's shouldn't be too hard.

I can ask my father anything... Sure since God is now ur father, u can ask him anything. Asking him when we will find a permanent cure for HIV.

Repeating that God speaks with u does not mean he spoke with u. Anyone can say anything.

Since u speak with God ask him if there exists another planet in the universe with beings.

I respect you and your opinion, however, your assertion is false. That is saying God is a liar. You may not believe me because I will not bring you what you desire, but that does not negate the truth. God speaks to people and He still speaks!. Rather than asking God to forgive and accept you, you want to find out when cure for HIV/AIDS will be found. Are you positive?, that's no problem for Him to handle, many have had their health restored!. But you must come to Him on His own terms!. Is that had for you?.

This relationship with God is on His terms not yours, you're the needy here, you can't dictate. But if you insist that except you hear Him you won't believe, like Thomas, I say hold on, you will surely not maybe, but surely hear Him and see Him. But I hope the meeting then will be nice for you.

Walking with God is built and based on faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Saying unless I hear and see physical proof may sound wise and sensible, but that's not the way faith works.

How do you want me to record the voice of a Spirit?. When God who is spirit, speaks to man, He speaks with and to the spirit of the man, the man will hear, understand and relate with that message. It's not like you talking. However, God can also speak audibly like a friend will chat with a friend to the hearing of the fleshly ears. But God only decides or chooses the method He wants, not you. It will be foolishness of me to go to God and say, speak let me record it, so I can prove to Mr. X or Mr. Y. His word (Bible) is a proof, If that puts you off, then I guess the question will be, who actually needs help and salvation of the other as to give conditions, you or God?.

I maintain this undeniable truth and fact known the world over, experienced by countless number of people, that God, the almighty God, yea, despite how big and immeasurable He is, and how insignificantly small we are in size, wisdom and power, speaks, fellowship and abides with us. This is the mystery of divine love and grace. What an honor!.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:49am On Jun 14, 2018
dalaman:


So you were talking empty talk after all? OK continue.

The ear that will hear will hear!. Your refusal to believe will not change a thing, except on your person, soul and spirit. When Jesus himself came preaching and telling the jews and pharesses, that look, I am the Son of God, how many of them believed Him?. Was that not the very reason they gathered to kill Him?, for telling the truth?. They asked Him to give them a sign from heaven as a proof and He turned it down, and so for that He was talking trash as far as they are concerned. Yet, at the cross, even the centurion who was never directly preached to, affirmed that truly, this was the Son of God!. So, who was the loser there?. You, man, can never dictate for God, have you no respect and reverence at all?. What you can't do to your human leaders, you dare try it with God?. I feel horrified for you guys seriously!. But God is so patient and kind, but it's a serious gamble of death to drag on in fleshly wisdom and pride to suffer God's patience and grace.

Ask yourself, what happened, how and why did top people, reknown in science and wisdom, like C. S. Lewis, come to accept this Jesus and His way, did they hear God calling them from the sky or what exactly happened?. Is it that they left being wise and intelligent to become foolish and stupid?. That is to say, you and your likes currently are wiser than they, though they had gone deeper than you and have seen more than you in both research and learning. I will keep praying for you that your eyes may be opened to the realities of God and eternity. Shalom.

Jesus Christ is the only Way!.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Fvcknames: 10:55am On Jun 14, 2018
M0ron:
It’s simple.
Both sides are immensely insecure with their beliefs or lack thereof.
They need constant reassurances that they are right and the other side wrong.
Beneath this bravado you see here is real fear of being wrong.

So an atheist minding their own business coming across the Theists doing their thing panics and hurls invectives to either stop them or dominate them and feel safe.

Similarly, Theists doing their thing come cross atheists challenging their thing and they throw tantrums.

I totally agree
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by dalaman: 11:33am On Jun 14, 2018
Primesky:


The ear that will hear will hear!. Your refusal to believe will not change a thing, except on your person, soul and spirit. When Jesus himself came preaching and telling the jews and pharesses, that look, I am the Son of God, how many of them believed Him?. Was that not the very reason they gathered to kill Him?, for telling the truth?. They asked Him to give them a sign from heaven as a proof and He turned it down, and so for that He was talking trash as far as they are concerned. Yet, at the cross, even the centurion who was never directly preached to, affirmed that truly, this was the Son of God!. So, who was the loser there?. You, man, can never dictate for God, have you no respect and reverence at all?. What you can't do to your human leaders, you dare try it with God?. I feel horrified for you guys seriously!. But God is so patient and kind, but it's a serious gamble of death to drag on in fleshly wisdom and pride to suffer God's patience and grace.

Ask yourself, what happened, how and why did top people, reknown in science and wisdom, like C. S. Lewis, come to accept this Jesus and His way, did they hear God calling them from the sky or what exactly happened?. Is it that they left being wise and intelligent to become foolish and stupid?. That is to say, you and your likes currently are wiser than they, though they had gone deeper than you and have seen more than you in both research and learning. I will keep praying for you that your eyes may be opened to the realities of God and eternity. Shalom.

Jesus Christ is the only Way!.

Stop regurgitating empty mythology to me. Prove your assertions.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by OkaiCorne(m): 2:19pm On Jun 14, 2018
frank317:


What else do u expect when people keep making claims they cannot substantiate.

There will be no back and forth if the guy can just prove beyond doubt that he speaks with the creator of the universe.

Let him tell me one very important mind boggling info the creator has ever given to him.

The lies in this forum are getting too much Abeg.

I agree, people keep making claims they can't substantiate!

The theists cannot give evidence of talking to God... Neither can the atheist give us proof of how this world and universe resulted from nothing!

The theist can never explain the existence of God or whatever to the satisfaction of an atheist... neither can an atheist convincingly explain the absence of God to a theist!

And this same cycle keeps repeating itself on Nairaland...this thing no dey tire una? ( I'm referring to theists and atheists)


All men to their beliefs abeg

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 3:26pm On Jun 14, 2018
Primesky:


I respect you and your opinion, however, your assertion is false. That is saying God is a liar. You may not believe me because I will not bring you what you desire, but that does not negate the truth. God speaks to people and He still speaks!. Rather than asking God to forgive and accept you, you want to find out when cure for HIV/AIDS will be found. Are you positive?, that's no problem for Him to handle, many have had their health restored!. But you must come to Him on His own terms!. Is that had for you?.
I am telling you that of never spoken to anyone because people,like you who always claim they have spoken with God end up sound as ignorant as the average human(except speaking with God is as ordinary as taking a stroll) and you are saying I am calling God a liar. God has to speak first before we can determine if he is a liar or not.
why should i ask someone I doubt his existence because i have never seen or heard from for forgivenes and acceptance? forgivness for what? you claim God created me and now I have to ask my creator for acceptance? So he created me and instantly rejected me so that i can come back to him for acceptance? whats wrong with him?
Now he is asking me if i am positive? I will let this foolish comment go... or perhaps you can ask God to find out. And since you cannot ask God to find out anything i will keep on assuming u lie when u say u spoke with God.


This relationship with God is on His terms not yours, you're the needy here, you can't dictate. But if you insist that except you hear Him you won't believe, like Thomas, I say hold on, you will surely not maybe, but surely hear Him and see Him. But I hope the meeting then will be nice for you.
whats this? you make up a God in your head , talk to him in your head hear him in your head and come to tell him my relationship with this being in ur head is strictly on his terms. If he exist are u supposed to be the one telling me this? Do u think I see u as God?


Walking with God is built and based on faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Saying unless I hear and see physical proof may sound wise and sensible, but that's not the way faith works.
sorry, I lack faith to believe in nonexistent things.


How do you want me to record the voice of a Spirit?. When God who is spirit, speaks to man, He speaks with and to the spirit of the man, the man will hear, understand and relate with that message. It's not like you talking. However, God can also speak audibly like a friend will chat with a friend to the hearing of the fleshly ears. But God only decides or chooses the method He wants, not you. It will be foolishness of me to go to God and say, speak let me record it, so I can prove to Mr. X or Mr. Y. His word (Bible) is a proof, If that puts you off, then I guess the question will be, who actually needs help and salvation of the other as to give conditions, you or God?.
oga, i didnt ask u to record anything. ask him a question and give me the answer. Ask him when HIV will be cured and tell the answer. or ask him if there are other beings in other planets in the whole universe. Give me the answer. if the answer is from God, it will definitely be meaninful enough. if u cant do this forget it.. it means u are lying.


I maintain this undeniable truth and fact known the world over, experienced by countless number of people, that God, the almighty God, yea, despite how big and immeasurable He is, and how insignificantly small we are in size, wisdom and power, speaks, fellowship and abides with us. This is the mystery of divine love and grace. What an honor!.
good... now a simple prove will seal this.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 3:36pm On Jun 14, 2018
OkaiCorne:


I agree, people keep making claims they can't substantiate!

The theists cannot give evidence of talking to God... Neither can the atheist give us proof of how this world and universe resulted from nothing!

We dont know how the universe came to be... at least I dont know.
do u see? a simple I dont know stops all this whole back and forth.


The theist can never explain the existence of God or whatever to the satisfaction of an atheist... neither can an atheist convincingly explain the absence of God to a theist!
what other absence do theist need to be explained. is the definition of absence hard to understand? The theist God is the true definition of absence. he cannot be seen, heard, felt nor proven? just lies theists make up in their head to feel good. Is absence dificult to define?


And this same cycle keeps repeating itself on Nairaland...this thing no dey tire una? ( I'm referring to theists and atheists)
some people cant stand blatant lie repeating itself over and over again.


All men to their beliefs abeg
u wish... i really couldnt sleep last night, do u know why? the speaker of some theists doing night vigil kept waking me up. Coming home from work, some dude start disturbing u after a hard day. oga, pickin way say hin mama no go sleep, him too no go sleep

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:54am On Jun 15, 2018
frank317:

I am telling you that of never spoken to anyone because people,like you who always claim they have spoken with God end up sound as ignorant as the average human(except speaking with God is as ordinary as taking a stroll) and you are saying I am calling God a liar. God has to speak first before we can determine if he is a liar or not.
why should i ask someone I doubt his existence because i have never seen or heard from for forgivenes and acceptance? forgivness for what? you claim God created me and now I have to ask my creator for acceptance? So he created me and instantly rejected me so that i can come back to him for acceptance? whats wrong with him?
Now he is asking me if i am positive? I will let this foolish comment go... or perhaps you can ask God to find out. And since you cannot ask God to find out anything i will keep on assuming u lie when u say u spoke with God.


whats this? you make up a God in your head , talk to him in your head hear him in your head and come to tell him my relationship with this being in ur head is strictly on his terms. If he exist are u supposed to be the one telling me this? Do u think I see u as God?


sorry, I lack faith to believe in nonexistent things.


oga, i didnt ask u to record anything. ask him a question and give me the answer. Ask him when HIV will be cured and tell the answer. or ask him if there are other beings in other planets in the whole universe. Give me the answer. if the answer is from God, it will definitely be meaninful enough. if u cant do this forget it.. it means u are lying.


good... now a simple prove will seal this.

Keep assuming, that's your choice. The truth remains God speaks to me and to many people. Believe it or not, that won't change a thing about the truth.

Look at yourself, you're asking me to go ask God a question and bring the answer to you, and if the answer is meaningful enough, then it's God speaking, if it's not meaningful to you, then God didn't speak?, oh Lord, please help this soul!.

You have one major issue to deal with, pride!. Unfortunately, God doesn't like that. You may think you're smart, but no, you're not!.

Don't stress yourself OK, I gave you a message, and you said no, it can't be, God must prove Himself to you first before you believe, I said OK!, God will surely prove Himself to you. He will not only speak, but you will see Him too, so that you can question Him about your every wim.There's no need to fret about the whole thing. For you, what I said is false, it's OK, wait until you see Him and hear Him yourself..

Didn't Thomas doubt the disciples when they told Him about Jesus?, and he said unless I see Him with my own eyes I will not believe?, but Jesus said something to Him. So, I said pray that when that day comes, and you're face to face with God, it turns out right. Should we fight about that, or you're not willing to be patient?. You're absolutely responsible for your choice.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:23am On Jun 15, 2018
dalaman:


Stop regurgitating empty mythology to me. Prove your assertions.

Take it!. The bible is the evidence you can't deny. I guess it won't make sense now. I only pray you don't say, had I known. The verdict of the Bible is that, man has no excuse. Unfortunately, many will find out when it's rather too late. I pray you don't fall into that category.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by winner01(m): 11:52am On Jun 15, 2018
frank317:


do atheist preach to you? how many times have you been walking on the street and stopped by atheist or how many times have atheists knock on your door?

Since you know your lies are not my business why are you preaching your foolish bible to me, why disturb me in the bus or knock on my door or stop me on the street?

Oga, go and hug tranformer... atheists will be here telling it to your face everyday that you preach lies. Stop coming to preach here and shoving your preaching down peoples throat if you know you dont want to be challenged... cry baby.
**** So in your mind, I'm concerned about how you spend your life here talking constantly about something you don't believe in undecided
Me wey dey find how I go overtake dangote and use money to better the lives of people around me. Nawa.

How many times have you confronted those that stopped you on the street or those that preach to your face. ***

**** After regurgitating the lines of Harris, Singer, Dawkins, Krauss and co over the years without any new arguments, you still think there's anything exciting about your madness, you really are an idiot. We will continue preaching here as long as Seun refers to it as a religion section, its will continue to prick your nerves that you have dedicated your whole life to a lie too. Deal with it.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 12:30pm On Jun 15, 2018
Primesky:


Keep assuming, that's your choice. The truth remains God speaks to me and to many people. Believe it or not, that won't change a thing about the truth.
God did not speak with u... Stop lying.


Look at yourself, you're asking me to go ask God a question and bring the answer to you, and if the answer is meaningful enough, then it's God speaking, if it's not meaningful to you, then God didn't speak?, oh Lord, please help this soul!.
Lol... I think this is a very simple task


You have one major issue to deal with, pride!. Unfortunately, God doesn't like that. You may think you're smart, but no, you're not!.
Unfortunately I am even yet to confirm the existence of this God... First things first.
The truth is that I am only the way I am because I have not reason yet to think God exists and I am being honest about this... And if God does not know this then for sure he does not exist.


Don't stress yourself OK, I gave you a message, and you said no, it can't be, God must prove Himself to you first before you believe, I said OK!, God will surely prove Himself to you. He will not only speak, but you will see Him too, so that you can question Him about your every wim.There's no need to fret about the whole thing. For you, what I said is false, it's OK, wait until you see Him and hear Him yourself..
I honestly think the message u give is false because u are human and I am yet to see anything about u that should make me believe u. God should know sending u to message me will not be effective and this is another reason why I doubt his existence.. U portray him as someone who does not know what to do and how to do it.

Yessssss I will patiently wait for him to show himself to me, till then, he does not exist.


Didn't Thomas doubt the disciples when they told Him about Jesus?, and he said unless I see Him with my own eyes I will not believe?, but Jesus said something to Him. So, I said pray that when that day comes, and you're face to face with God, it turns out right. Should we fight about that, or you're not willing to be patient?. You're absolutely responsible for your choice.
It's all a lie... We will fight about it... The more God delays the more we fight. At the end of the day, is all in God's hands... If he exists, only him can stop the fight. Till then, I will continue to display my impatience for what I think are lies.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 12:37pm On Jun 15, 2018
winner01:
**** So in your mind, I'm concerned about how you spend your life here talking constantly about something you don't believe in undecided
Yes.


Me wey dey find how I go overtake dangote and use money to better the lives of people around me. Nawa.
Cool, me too.


How many times have you confronted those that stopped you on the street or those that preach to your face. ***
Almost all the time. It's also part of why I come over o this section.


**** After regurgitating the lines of Harris, Singer, Dawkins, Krauss and co over the years without any new arguments, you still think there's anything exciting about your madness, you really are an idiot. We will continue preaching here as long as Seun refers to it as a religion section, its will continue to prick your nerves that you have dedicated your whole life to a lie too. Deal with it.
Cool... U keep preaching and I will keep telling u it's a lie... Unfortunately tomorrow u will still ask why I am here like a cry baby with hard ears... It hurts u to see me point out ur lies doesn't it? wink

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 1:10pm On Jun 15, 2018
frank317:

God did not speak with u... Stop lying.


Lol... I think this is a very simple task


Unfortunately I am even yet to confirm the existence of this God... First things first.
The truth is that I am only the way I am because I have not reason yet to think God exists and I am being honest about this... And if God does not know this then for sure he does not exist.


I honestly think the message u give is false because u are human and I am yet to see anything about u that should make me believe u. God should know sending u to message me will not be effective and this is another reason why I doubt his existence.. U portray him as someone who does not know what to do and how to do it.

Yessssss I will patiently wait for him to show himself to me, till then, he does not exist.


It's all a lie... We will fight about it... The more God delays the more we fight. At the end of the day, is all in God's hands... If he exists, only him can stop the fight. Till then, I will continue to display my impatience for what I think are lies.

SMH. Pride is a killer!. It brought down Lucifer and his colleagues. Whatch it!.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:


1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

You think yourself wiser than those of your kind, who despite their exposure and learning and research. Believed and accepted Jesus Christ. What proofs did they have, nothing but the bible. Keep thinking you're wise.

Jesus Christ is the way.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 1:33pm On Jun 15, 2018
Primesky:


SMH. Pride is a killer!. It brought down Lucifer and his colleagues. Whatch it!.
If asking for prove of a being that I can't feel his existence is pride.. Then I chose to remain proud than foolishly believe in something I have never felt. In fact u calling my behavior pride is praising and honouring me.


Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:


1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Speak English. We are yet to confirm the existence of any God. First things first.


You think yourself wiser than those of your kind, who despite their exposure and learning and research. Believed and accepted Jesus Christ. What proofs did they have, nothing but the bible. Keep thinking you're wise.

Jesus Christ is the way.
No I actually think myself wiser than Jesus. Perhaps u need to start worshiping me
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:52am On Jun 16, 2018
frank317:

If asking for prove of a being that I can't feel his existence is pride.. Then I chose to remain proud than foolishly believe in something I have never felt. In fact u calling my behavior pride is praising and honouring me.


Speak English. We are yet to confirm the existence of any God. First things first.


No I actually think myself wiser than Jesus. Perhaps u need to start worshiping me

I will only pray for you dear, things aren't the way they appear to you. You have no idea what you're doing to yourself, even though it appears to you to be wisdom and smartness.

Lord, please help this my friend to know you. He is maintaining this stand because he doesn't know or understand, and because the evil one has decieved him. But Lord remember you made him for your glory. I ask that you will have mercy on him and bring him to salvation in Jesus Christ. May the light of your truth and your ways shine on him. This ask in Jesus name. Amen!.

Friend, regardless of anything right now, I want to tell you that Jesus really loves you.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 6:10pm On Jun 16, 2018
Primesky:


I will only pray for you dear, things aren't the way they appear to you. You have no idea what you're doing to yourself, even though it appears to you to be wisdom and smartness.
Lord, please help this my friend to know you. He is maintaining this stand because he doesn't know or understand, and because the evil one has decieved him. But Lord remember you made him for your glory. I ask that you will have mercy on him and bring him to salvation in Jesus Christ. May the light of your truth and your ways shine on him. This ask in Jesus name. Amen!.
your prayers will not be answered as usual. Do not bother praying for me, your God should do the needful and reveal himself to me of he is serious. There more important people who need ur prayers; the sick, little kids in war areas, children of abusive parents. pray that people should stop losing their loved ones...unfortunately your God does not exist and cannot answer a single prayer.
I understand ur intentions are good, but sadly u have been decieved and ur mind is playin tricks on u.


Friend, regardless of anything right now, I want to tell you that Jesus really loves you.
If Jesus loves me, you shouldn't be the one telling me.
If u have a girl u are in love with, do u think she will take u serious if u keep on sending a primary 4 student to always go help you go profess ur love for her? worst still u never reveal urself to her? then u sit back and say if she wants to know u, she should seek out for u... its either u are worshiping a mad God or a crazy God.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 8:32pm On Jun 17, 2018
frank317:

your prayers will not be answered as usual. Do not bother praying for me, your God should do the needful and reveal himself to me of he is serious. There more important people who need ur prayers; the sick, little kids in war areas, children of abusive parents. pray that people should stop losing their loved ones...unfortunately your God does not exist and cannot answer a single prayer.
I understand ur intentions are good, but sadly u have been decieved and ur mind is playin tricks on u.


If Jesus loves me, you shouldn't be the one telling me.
If u have a girl u are in love with, do u think she will take u serious if u keep on sending a primary 4 student to always go help you go profess ur love for her? worst still u never reveal urself to her? then u sit back and say if she wants to know u, she should seek out for u... its either u are worshiping a mad God or a crazy God.

Jesus loves you, and He has told you in His book, the Bible. But because of arrogance and pride, you can't see it.

Since, you can't see it, I am telling you about it.

As for the Lord Jesus Christ, He was here before now. And He will return again. When He comes, all liars and all decievers like your fallen angels com gods will be roasted in the fire.

You need serious help Mr. Otem, but unfortunately, you are not ready or careful to notice it. Watch it before disaster srrikes. Jesus Christ is waiting for you.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by M0ron: 8:36pm On Jun 17, 2018
JeromeBlack:
There shouldnt be any animosity. Everyone should follow what they believe

This is not about ideals (should,could,would) but rather about what is actually the case.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 7:02am On Jun 18, 2018
Primesky:


Jesus loves you, and He has told you in His book, the Bible. But because of arrogance and pride, you can't see it.

Since, you can't see it, I am telling you about it.
Why should tell me he loves me through a book not directly written by him? Why should he send u to tell me?
If u love a young girl will she take u serious if u send a primary 3 boy to go tell her u love her? Which one will more effective: telling her urself or sending a primary 3 boy to tell her.
Stop making ur God sound like he does not know the right thing to do.


As for the Lord Jesus Christ, He was here before now. And He will return again. When He comes, all liars and all decievers like your fallen angels com gods will be roasted in the fire.
Lies... Story for the gods.


You need serious help Mr. Otem, but unfortunately, you are not ready or careful to notice it. Watch it before disaster srrikes. Jesus Christ is waiting for you.
I am Frank not Otem, what's confusing u? Has Holy Spirit started again?
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:23pm On Jun 18, 2018
frank317:

Why should tell me he loves me through a book not directly written by him? Why should he send u to tell me?
If u love a young girl will she take u serious if u send a primary 3 boy to go tell her u love her? Which one will more effective: telling her urself or sending a primary 3 boy to tell her.
Stop making ur God sound like he does not know the right thing to do.

Lies... Story for the gods.

I am Frank not Otem, what's confusing u? Has Holy Spirit started again?

Stop decieving yourself. The Bible is God's word. You can't deny anything about it. It's either you believe or you don't, and you are absolutely responsible for what choice you make. What is your point?. Let's even say, that someone wrote it for Him, does that make it false or fake?.

You must really be thinking God is a play mate. Just because He loves us so much, He became man to save us. Must He also dance to your tune as well?, don't you have even the smallest atom of regard and respect for the one who made you?.

He sent prophets to us to give us His word and tell us His word and His love for us, but just like you, men hated them, abused them and even killed them. He came by himself, became like us, just to express how much He loves us, died and rose again for us. By laying down His life for us, He actually debased Himself to the lowest low possible, yet men just like you now, still doubted, rejected, abused and even called for His crucifixion!. What else do you want?. I have told you that man has no excuse!. As it stands now, it's either you believe or you don't. When the time for judgement comes, you can then present your defense against Him and let's see how innocent you are.

Excuse me, ordinary President of Nations, like Trump of USA and Buhari of Nigeria or let us even talk about ex-presidents, they have spokes persons, who speak for them. And whatever the spokes persons release as the position of their principals, is believed to be endorced by that principal person, and it's therefore accepted as the true position of the person of interest. So now, if the Almighty God speaks through His prophets, He's wrong?.


Jeremiah 35:15 I Jeremiah 35:15 I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.

Pride is one thing you need to deal with. So, you will not believe except God comes directly to you. SMH.


My dear, stop chasing shadows, and come to Jesus Christ now. All this permutations and analysis you're doing will not save you.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

There's no excuse for anybody anywhere. The fact is that, you have heard about the saviour, what you choose to make out of His word, love and ways, is totally yours.

Jesus Christ is the way!.

Can a drowning man refuse a boat from saving him, all the while saying if it's not helicopter, he wouldn't want to be saved?. If that happens, that man may as well drown. Who suffers in the end?.

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