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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 9:59pm On Jun 24, 2018
This weather has been making sense past few weeks....make i no talk too mushhhh

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by veleta: 10:26pm On Jun 24, 2018
@Davechapell,thanks I appreciate
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Aphrodite007(f): 12:05am On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:
This weather has been making sense past few weeks....make i no talk too mushhhh

Abeg no talk too much o, don’t come and pour sand sand inside our small garri biko grin

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 12:06am On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:
This weather has been making sense past few weeks....make i no talk too mushhhh

Ensure you have your cold wears on standby.......
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 12:13am On Jun 25, 2018
Lexusgs430:


Ensure you have your cold wears on standby.......

Not for another 2 weeks at least...in fact running out of short sleeves for work.

hmm those extra hours in the gym are now paying off, only if my belly go corporate cool
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 12:23am On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:


Not for another 2 weeks at least...in fact running out of short sleeves for work.

hmm those extra hours in the gym are now paying off, only if my belly go corporate cool


Running out of short sleeves? M & S, Sports Direct, Primark, Matalan, Pep & Co........ To be Conservative are calling for your money, your high Street needs you.....



One pack is the new six pack.......
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Nobody: 12:25am On Jun 25, 2018
How do you guys deal with systematic racism...
I have lived in London all my life and I really didn't know racism after the 90's, maybe because London is cosmopolitan.
I now live in Wales for the last 8 years, and the indirect racism (blatantly insulted by teenagers, but never an adult) and the fact that I am always picked out as 'trouble' or that I always lose to my white conterparts be it promotions or simple acceptance after probationary period is killing my soul... all be it small.

I am articulate, attractive and intelligent but I can't escape the 'trouble' label! White girls who don't measure up to me always get an easier ride and it's evident, how do I overcome this?

I fell into the trap because I'm a lil proud and find it hard to conform! I bought into the story of equality that was sold to me for over 30 years but my eyes are clearing and it's heartbreaking. I believed in the Equality mantra that was shoved down my throat but I am not experiencing it. It feels like im being pigeon-holed (prison or discrimination)

I'd love to hear from those who were born or raised here and how they escape this...

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 12:51am On Jun 25, 2018
LivingFree:
How do you guys deal with systematic racism...
I have lived in London all my life and I really didn't know racism after the 90's, maybe because London is cosmopolitan.
I now live in Wales for the last 8 years, and the indirect racism (blatantly insulted by teenagers, but never an adult) and the fact that I am always picked out as 'trouble' or that I always lose to my white conterparts be it promotions or simple acceptance after probationary period is killing my soul... all be it small.

I am articulate, attractive and intelligent but I can't escape the 'trouble' label! White girls who don't measure up to me always get an easier ride and it's evident, how do I overcome this?

I fell into the trap because I'm a lil proud and find it hard to conform! I bought into the story of equality that was sold to me for over 30 years but my eyes are clearing and it's heartbreaking. I believed in the Equality mantra that was shoved down my throat but I am not experiencing it. It feels like im being pigeon-holed (prison or discrimination)

I'd love to hear from those who were born or raised here and how they escape this...


Sorry to hear about your experience.... Unfortunately it comes with the territory (albeit indirectly)....

The only solution is either to develop a very thick skin or work in any environment where you exclude yourself from the politics (indirectly)..... ...

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 1:21am On Jun 25, 2018
Lexusgs430:


Sorry to hear about your experience.... Unfortunately it comes with the territory (albeit indirectly)....

The only solution is either to develop a very thick skin or work in any environment where you exclude yourself from the politics (indirectly)..... ...

The beauty of contracting...no need to get involved in that shyte...pay me my cheque and put some respeck on it.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 1:33am On Jun 25, 2018
wonlasewonimi:


The beauty of contracting...no need to get involved in that shyte...pay me my cheque and put some respeck on it.

That is indirectly the point I was eluding to..... (but we have to also recognise that, not all forms of employment affords this option).......
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by sutelk: 7:15am On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:


Congrats bro!

I was having this kind of conversation yesterday..Not telling her 'friends her travelling routine or new job or any good news...my friend said its becos of Oyinbo thinking...I really want to understand this...Do you honestly believe someone was responsible for this....what was in effect your own mistake
Thanks.
Not that anyone was responsible for it. As you pointed out, I admit it was my own mistake but they were those who were happy I made the mistake for reasons best known to them and their God. They were like; 'shebi them say that guy get work for UK, why him never go, person when no fit pass ordinary English exam, na him type de get work for UK?"
Point is if somebody didn't go and share testimony for me nobody would have known my travel plans nobody would have had the opportunity to say rubbish about the setback I experienced in the process.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by sutelk: 7:24am On Jun 25, 2018
About booking my flight, can't afford a direct flight now so I'm thinking of one of those one stop flights. I'm seeing some with as much as 6 hours layover in Dubai. My question is what happens during those 4,5,6 hours layover when you are in Dubai, Istanbul etc. Do u just sit in the airport or do they accommodate you somewhere. Are you allowed to leave the airport to tour the town while waiting? Who is responsible for your feeding during that period?
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 8:23am On Jun 25, 2018
sutelk:
About booking my flight, can't afford a direct flight now so I'm thinking of one of those one stop flights. I'm seeing some with as much as 6 hours layover in Dubai. My question is what happens during those 4,5,6 hours layover when you are in Dubai, Istanbul etc. Do u just sit in the airport or do they accommodate you somewhere. Are you allowed to leave the airport to tour the town while waiting? Who is responsible for your feeding during that period?

This summer prices are crazy expensive. Never knew summer peak affects Nigeria too! You will be responsible for your feeding and extra curricula activities mate except the delay is caused by the airline. If you have a very long layover in dubai i believe you can arrange a tour round the city with the airline arranging your hotel/ connecting flight to suit you- at a cost.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 8:42am On Jun 25, 2018
sutelk:
About booking my flight, can't afford a direct flight now so I'm thinking of one of those one stop flights. I'm seeing some with as much as 6 hours layover in Dubai. My question is what happens during those 4,5,6 hours layover when you are in Dubai, Istanbul etc. Do u just sit in the airport or do they accommodate you somewhere. Are you allowed to leave the airport to tour the town while waiting? Who is responsible for your feeding during that period?

If you don't have a transit visa, make sure you travel with a seat pressure relieving pad (to avoid pressure ulcers) ........

You would have airport toilet + airport food and inhouse airport tour, for company.......

If its any consolation, free WiFi would also be available to keep you well entertained.......

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 8:45am On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:


This summer prices are crazy expensive. Never knew summer peak affects Nigeria too! You will be responsible for your feeding and extra curricula activities mate except the delay is caused by the airline. If you have a very long layover in dubai i believe you can arrange a tour round the city with the airline arranging your hotel/ connecting flight to suit you- at a cost.

A pleasant tour around the airport, on those electric buggies.......
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 9:09am On Jun 25, 2018
Lexusgs430:


That is indirectly the point I was eluding to..... (but we have to also recognise that, not all forms of employment affords this option).......
True
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by sutelk: 9:09am On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:


This summer prices are crazy expensive. Never knew summer peak affects Nigeria too! You will be responsible for your feeding and extra curricula activities mate except the delay is caused by the airline. If you have a very long layover in dubai i believe you can arrange a tour round the city with the airline arranging your hotel/ connecting flight to suit you- at a cost.
Thanks. Do I need to have some dollars with me or will pounds be accepted for my transactions?
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 10:09am On Jun 25, 2018
sutelk:

Thanks. Do I need to have some dollars with me or will pounds be accepted for my transactions?

You would not be allowed to leave the airport without a transit visa......

If you don't have a transit visa, you shall not be spending £ or $ on any tours.....
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 11:12am On Jun 25, 2018
Lexusgs430:


A pleasant tour around the airport, on those electric buggies.......

True, this will give you time to start reset your body/brain from Naija mode to Za Other mode.... cool
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 11:14am On Jun 25, 2018
sutelk:

Thanks. Do I need to have some dollars with me or will pounds be accepted for my transactions?

Your bank card will do
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by sutelk: 11:15am On Jun 25, 2018
Lexusgs430:


You would not be allowed to leave the airport without a transit visa......

If you don't have a transit visa, you shall not be spending £ or $ on any tours.....
Tours Ke, don't have money for tours now oh, I've not recovered from the funds I lost to my first visa refusal. I'm actually referring to the currency I will use to buy food and drinks if I need during the long wait at the airport. Will I be able to buy food and drinks with £ at the airport? I'm asking because I'm about going to the bureau de change so I want to know the currencies I will need.
Sorry if my questions sound naive, I'm a learner, its my first trip out of naija.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by sutelk: 11:16am On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:

Your bank card will do
Thanks.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by olaidecash: 11:34am On Jun 25, 2018
Pls help!!! I need a cab man to heathrow ,anyone has any?its urgent.Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 11:38am On Jun 25, 2018
olaidecash:
Pls help!!! I need a cab man to heathrow ,anyone has any?its urgent.Thanks
If you use Google on your phone from your location you will get better results.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Aphrodite007(f): 1:22pm On Jun 25, 2018
LivingFree:
How do you guys deal with systematic racism...
I have lived in London all my life and I really didn't know racism after the 90's, maybe because London is cosmopolitan.
I now live in Wales for the last 8 years, and the indirect racism (blatantly insulted by teenagers, but never an adult) and the fact that I am always picked out as 'trouble' or that I always lose to my white conterparts be it promotions or simple acceptance after probationary period is killing my soul... all be it small.

I am articulate, attractive and intelligent but I can't escape the 'trouble' label! White girls who don't measure up to me always get an easier ride and it's evident, how do I overcome this?

I fell into the trap because I'm a lil proud and find it hard to conform! I bought into the story of equality that was sold to me for over 30 years but my eyes are clearing and it's heartbreaking. I believed in the Equality mantra that was shoved down my throat but I am not experiencing it. It feels like im being pigeon-holed (prison or discrimination)

I'd love to hear from those who were born or raised here and how they escape this...


Sorry about this. Had a similar experience in Wales too.

When I was a student, I worked in care. Went for a job in the outskirts of Wales. The home had an epidemic but as a JJc I didn’t understand what it was. It was just me and a white woman as carers then a white nurse and a white senior. They had over 50 residents, guess what? Only me took care of all of them because the white carer told the nurse that she couldn’t go close to residents as they were sick, so she just washed plates. Halfway through the night, the white carer yelled at the nurse that she’s going home. Nurse and senior begged her. Me I was still running around. The only time I had to sit down was when I went to the loo.

Around 5am I got to sit down and use my phone, I googled what the epidemic was and screamed, (It was an airborne disease so I was literally set up to get the disease). Around 6am (One hour to go), nurse told me to do final rounds before handover, but I foolishly para’d for the nurse that they treated me unfairly and didn’t protect me against the disease. She reported me to director, director told me to get out. I asked them to pay me for the hours worked... lol I obviously didn’t get paid.

I reported to my agency the didn’t answer. I resigned Cos the way they were sounding, I knew they were going to fire me. Went to citizens bureau to sue the home/agency for negligence because my agency knew I had low immune system but still sent me there. They told me not to bother. As I walked out, my hatred for this country solidified. (Oh and I caught the disease too grin)

I am wiser now.

Once I smell racism, Unless it’s a structured office like where I work now that has a reputation, I’ve learned to manage till I get a new job. Cos my arguing with the nurse, one hour to closing, was absolutely stupid. I forgot I wasn’t white enough to claim rights grin. I could have managed the one hour, collected my pay and just never visited that home.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Techm8: 1:40pm On Jun 25, 2018
DisGuy:


This summer prices are crazy expensive. Never knew summer peak affects Nigeria too! You will be responsible for your feeding and extra curricula activities mate except the delay is caused by the airline. If you have a very long layover in dubai i believe you can arrange a tour round the city with the airline arranging your hotel/ connecting flight to suit you- at a cost.
Sure it affects Nigeria. With FCMB debit Mastercard I think one can get discounts on flights and hotel bookings

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 1:47pm On Jun 25, 2018
Lexusgs430:


Ensure you have your cold wears on standby.......

Really, na so.e dey be. Na wa oo
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Rubyventures: 2:41pm On Jun 25, 2018
LivingFree:
How do you guys deal with systematic racism...
I have lived in London all my life and I really didn't know racism after the 90's, maybe because London is cosmopolitan.
I now live in Wales for the last 8 years, and the indirect racism (blatantly insulted by teenagers, but never an adult) and the fact that I am always picked out as 'trouble' or that I always lose to my white conterparts be it promotions or simple acceptance after probationary period is killing my soul... all be it small.

I am articulate, attractive and intelligent but I can't escape the 'trouble' label! White girls who don't measure up to me always get an easier ride and it's evident, how do I overcome this?

I fell into the trap because I'm a lil proud and find it hard to conform! I bought into the story of equality that was sold to me for over 30 years but my eyes are clearing and it's heartbreaking. I believed in the Equality mantra that was shoved down my throat but I am not experiencing it. It feels like im being pigeon-holed (prison or discrimination)

I'd love to hear from those who were born or raised here and how they escape this...


You just remined me of a place I used to work.

Systematic racism is everywhere maybe less in the government establishments.

When you say you are proud and hard to conform please explain more?

I worked in this firm for more than 10 years, before I was given the job, I was called for the interview about three times, I was given all the test you can possibly give, even the ones the main partner doesn't even know himself (later found out when I was in the job) I was tested on every aspect of the software program and passed. I found some of the test condescending and patronising but I kept my cool as I understood what was going on. I later got a rejection letter.....
I was cool about it cos I was already in one job so no problem, I forgot about the whole thing until about 2 months later when I got a call from the Firm's top partner wanting to know when I can start and that the person that got the job was is a big disappointment and didn't know even the basics of the job. In my head I'm thinking (If he had tested him the way he tested me, he would have known that the guy was useless.) Later found out he was a white English guy and all they do is ask each other… can you do the job ? and if they say yes, they get it.
To cut a long story short..... I took on the job and I'm glad I did. I learnt a lot there. It was mainly English, Welsh and Scottish firm full of public school products, there were a couple of new Zealanders, Australians, French Swedish Germans etc.
Most of the clients were internationally based, big brand companies, due to confidential reasons I will not be mentioning names.
I and another black guy (black Caribbean British) were the only blacks in the company, he advised me to socialise more with them so I wouldn’t be looked on as anti-social. It did help me a bit to break to ice. I took his advice, it was a big firm so our outings were like, going to Ascot, tennis tickets to Queens, Mahiki bar, comedy store etc.
Through chatting with the other staff I found out that most of the English were there through recommendation, they knew someone who knew the boss, the interview was informal. Also when you attend public school you make great connections. E.g. the big client is a friend of a friend, the solicitor friend puts work to the accountant way , the accountant puts work to the surveyor , or the insurance broker , the event planner , the architect etc . They are all interconnected and I’m not talking about small jobs here. Old boys club, you get that click of extremely rich people and the money only flows in that same circle of friends.
I had to train a lot of people and then they will get promoted ahead of me, I was really geting fed up, the last straw was this English girl who came on the job because her husband was a friend of the boss. After training her she was now made my boss and even had to do my annual review. I felt really slighted.
I was very popular with the clients, I did my job very well and put in the hours, there was this big client who wanted to take me on but because of a clause in my contract, it limits me from working for clients until 4 year after leaving the firm.
After the last incident I felt slighted and used, so I made up my mind to leave. Only I had to get my bonus so I waited till the end of January, I had already drafted my resignation letter. As soon as my bonus hit my bank account, I pressed sent. I was at this clients and I told them that day, The boss came down that day with this lady and they wanted to know why I was leaving and what they could do to make me stay , I said there was nothing it was just a personal decision .
They lost the contract with that client and a few others, I knew this will happen but I didn’t give a shiit. I didn’t say anything cos I wanted to leave on good terms. If I tried to fight it I knew it would be a losing battle. I worked my notice gave an excuse didn't turn up for my send off, gave last minute excuse on the day at the last minute.

Now I’m with a much smaller company but I’m being appreciated 100 times more.

There is racism, even in London, although it is much subtle sometimes you have to play the game with them, do the plastic smile to get on.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 3:56pm On Jun 25, 2018
fatima04:


Really, na so.e dey be. Na wa oo

Be prepared to smoke invisible cigarettes.......
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Ralphlauren(m): 4:06pm On Jun 25, 2018
wonlasewonimi:


The beauty of contracting...no need to get involved in that shyte...pay me my cheque and put some respeck on it.

exactly.

the only time i have ever faced any form of racism at the work place was whilst i was working as a perm staff many years ago. my manager made a racist comment towards me (to the hearing of the entire team), he realised his slip and immediately went on his knees pleading and begging me to forgive him. serious begging - the guy was literally red in the face and almost shitting on his pants. he knew if I reported to HR, he was gone. meanwhile, I was the only black person in the entire team.

i forgave him (as a good Christian cheesy) and after that incident, till I left the company, he was super nice to me. I got the hours/flexibility I wanted without any objection whatsoever from him. appraisals, etc were always A+ grin

I didn't see any point making a big hooha out of the whole issue because I was just starting out professionally post Uni and I needed the job at the time especially for the work experience/exposure and I knew it was a stepping stone. sometimes whilst climbing up the ladder, we need to stoop low, take some shyte, ignore and move on.

with contracting, its been a good ride. I have had the odd 2 or 3 contracts where I have gotten the 'jealousy attitude' from the odd a$$hole who is a perm staff just because they know i am earning much more than them but honestly, i do not care - if they pained, they can tender their resignation letter and jump into the contracting market. I just ignore such individuals.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 4:19pm On Jun 25, 2018
Ralphlauren:


exactly.

the only time i have ever faced any form of racism at the work place was whilst i was working as a perm staff many years ago. my manager made a racist comment towards me (to the hearing of the entire team), he realised his slip and immediately went on his knees pleading and begging me to forgive him. serious begging - the guy was literally red in the face and almost shitting on his pants. he knew if I reported to HR, he was gone. meanwhile, I was the only black person in the entire team.

i forgave him (as a good Christian cheesy) and after that incident, till I left the company, he was super nice to me. I got the hours/flexibility I wanted without any objection whatsoever from him. appraisals, etc were always A+ grin

I didn't see any point making a big hooha out of the whole issue because I was just starting out professionally post Uni and I needed the job at the time especially for the work experience/exposure and I knew it was a stepping stone. sometimes whilst climbing up the ladder, we need to stoop low, take some shyte, ignore and move on.

with contracting, its been a good ride. I have had the odd 2 or 3 contracts where I have gotten the 'jealousy attitude' from the odd a$$hole who is a perm staff just because they know i am earning much more than them but honestly, i do not care - if they pained, they can tender their resignation letter and jump into the contracting market. I just ignore such individuals.


Yes you get the odd permies with attitude based on the fact that they have an idea of the contractor rates. Seasoned contractors have been naturally designed to overlook those sort of oloshis. They don't have the liver to go contracting but will still be envious.
The thing is I don't need any 360 degrees feedback or one to ones or appraisals from anybody. So, whatever attempt is dead on arrival.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Ralphlauren(m): 4:32pm On Jun 25, 2018
wonlasewonimi:


Yes you get the odd permies with attitude based on the fact that they have an idea of the contractor rates. Seasoned contractors have been naturally designed to overlook those sort of oloshis. They don't have the liver to go contracting but will still be envious.
The thing is I don't need any 360 degrees feedback or one to ones or appraisals from anybody. So, whatever attempt is dead on arrival.


the appraisals, one-on-ones, performance matrix and what not is one thing is sure do NOT miss about perm job.

i once worked with an organisation that insisted on the one-on-ones for their contractors. we kept telling them that this sh1t isn't for contractors and they were going to put us into trouble with HMRC as their actions would technically meant we weren't self employed.

their excuse was the one-on-ones were just their way of 'checking up on contractors to ensure they were okay, enjoying their role and if there was any support the organisation could offer'. BULLSH1T . grin did the job for a few months and left for somewhere else.

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