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|Islam for Muslims / Re: Muhammad cannot be the Comforter by proo212(m): 1:26am On May 21|
You still have not answered his questions Lanrexlan
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|Music/Radio / Re: Kanye West Titles Album "Yeezus" by proo212(m): 9:01pm On May 20|
Funny how these guys never feel the need to provoke sensibilities from the "other side". Whichever way you feel about this (3 groups, those who are offended but know that God is not mocked, those who feel there's nothing wrong a mere coincidence, and those who encourage this).
Lastly I dont see protests from other side for blasphemy after all there is supposed to be equal love extended to Jesus Christ and there is supposed to be no distinction between the prophets. Hmmmm.......The silence is deafening.
|Religion / Re: Ten Reasons Why We Shouldn't Fear Islam by proo212(m): 10:12pm On May 16|
Disarming the gullible.....
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Muhammad cannot be the Comforter by proo212(m): 11:13pm On May 15|
Pride is a really bad thing.....Sad
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Muhammad cannot be the Comforter by proo212(m): 7:01pm On May 13|
Of course he can't explain it....
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Are These Verses Really In The Quran? by proo212(m): 3:37pm On May 08|
@Striktlymi, do not come and skew things here. The issue I have with dgitrader is that if he wants to post verses he should at least quote the verses correctly and not what someone posted on their facebook page. Google is your friend, you can read the verses yourself.
What you are trying to do here is deception. You for one are a polytheist, because why, you associate partners with Allah, you say Allah has a son, you say Jesus son of mary was crucified on the cross when Allah said it was not so. The context is there in verse 29-30. So, if Boko Haram comes and fights to kill are you going to repent and establish prayer? If they do not kill you, will you be willing to be subdued and pay the Jizya? Please answer the question honestly!
Sadly you have no idea of what you are talking about.
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Are These Verses Really In The Quran? by proo212(m): 1:00pm On May 08|
dgitrader at least represent the verses properly if youre going post something like this. You have no basis for posting if you cannot get your facts right. Search my posts and you'll see i'm not muslim.
|Islam for Muslims / Re: Muhammad cannot be the Comforter by proo212(m): 12:03pm On May 08|
One book is false, the question is are we honest with ourselves and humble enough to raise our hands up and admit, which of the books is false. Pride destroys. Eternity is too much of a price to pay for pride.
|Religion / Re: Saudi Arabia Declares Destruction Of All Churches In Country by proo212(m): 4:09pm On Apr 11|
What is the point of my post?
If the prophet said it and he did not instruct his followers to do anything (there is nothing in the statement that instructs them to do anything), how pray tell is this supposed to happen for 2 deens not to coexist in the Arabian Peninsula?
You need to ask yourself the questions, did the grand mufti make the statement or not? Is the grand mufti a respected islamic scholar/an authority on Islam or not? Will there be people who stand by the words of the grand mufti or not.
If your answers to these questions are yes, yes and yes then you begin to see why some people are concerned he made such a statement. You don't have to agree with what he says but there are people who agree with him. He's the Grand Mufti!
The people who have killed in recent days in Egypt, ask yourself the question again, were the muslims who attacked the coptic church shouting Allahu Akbar specifically instructed to kill those people? I guess your answer to this question will be no, (Idon't know myself) but people have lost their lives regardless. Again, I say CNN and BBC will never carry such stories.
|Religion / Re: Saudi Arabia Declares Destruction Of All Churches In Country by proo212(m): 2:24pm On Apr 11|
This is not new by the way. This comment was made in March 2012. Tons of sources for this same news on the web. Just because its culled from prophecynewswatch and not CNN or BBC doesn't mean its anti-muslim. The CNN or BBC will never carry such stories by the way but thats a different discussion entirely. Besides he is only following what the prophet said and i quote
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ismail ibn Abi Hakim that he heard Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz say, "One of the last things that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said was, 'May Allah fight the jews and the christians. They took the graves of their Prophets as places of prostration . Two deens shall not co-exist in the land of the Arabs.' " - Malik's Muwatta, Book 45, Number 45.5.17
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula."
|Religion / Re: Pope Francis Urges For Dialogue With Islam by proo212(m): 1:23pm On Mar 26|
The Quran 3:35-37 that Maclatunji quoted is from the Gnostic gospels. I have been looking for the exact one but cannot quite find it as yet. This has been thrashed somewhere on this board in the last 2 years. This is definitely a forgery. I will bring proof once i find it. Its most likely from Infancy Gospel of Thomas or Mary
|Religion / Re: Pope Francis Urges For Dialogue With Islam by proo212(m): 5:39pm On Mar 25|
The Muslims and the Catholics have not answered the question, what are the Pope and Muslim leaders going to dialogue on? Are they going to slow down on the persecution of Christians everywhere by Muslims? Are they going to recognise that Jesus is the Son of God, that He is the way the truth and the life? That He was crucified, and was resurrected? Remember after Regensburg and Oct 2007 when the Muslim leaders wrote a letter asking for a dialogue and quoting Surah 3:64 which you find below.
A Common Word between Us and You is an open letter, dated 13 October 2007, from leaders of the Islamic religion to leaders of the Christian religion. It calls for peace between Muslims and Christians and tries to work for common ground and understanding between both religions, in line with the Qur'anic commandment to "Say: 'O People of the Scripture! come to a common word as between us and you: that we worship none but God'" and the Biblical commandment to love God, and one's neighbour. In the time since its release, "A Common Word" opened an interfaith dialogue between Christians and Muslims.In 2008 the initiative was awarded the "Eugen Biser Award", and the "Building Bridges Award" from the UK's Association of Muslim Social Scientists.
Now read the full Ayah of the Surah. These guys were obviously very economical with that chapter and verse of the Quran.
Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).
This tells you they are not interested in dialogue, but more to ask the people they are having dialogue with to embrace Islam.
|Religion / Re: America Set To Issue 666 Mark March 2013,....is This The End by proo212(m): 10:07am On Mar 23|
We are waiting for the chip....
|Religion / Re: Pope Francis Urges For Dialogue With Islam by proo212(m): 10:19pm On Mar 22|
Frosbel, disregard the attacks. You're not the first and sure won't be the last to be attacked for saying what is true.
On another note, can our brothers and sisters in Africa see why an African could never have been elected Pope? It was always going to be a Pope that will be "inclusive" that would be elected and definitely not a conservative looking one.
The signs are there for all to see but obviously some fail to see. In another thread that vedaxcool opened about the Francis and Benedict having "issues" about Benedicts comment in Regensburg in 2006. So its pretty clear what is happening. All the bets were on Angelo Scola (if you are in doubt, search for news stories after Benedict stepped down) because of what he stood for (wanted to have a dialogue with Islam) and towards the conclave he became favourites but the conclave obviously knew what we didnt know and chose Pope Francis I.
|Religion / Re: Tunisian Man Slaughtered For Embracing Christianity by proo212(m): 10:28am On Mar 20|
Well he renounced the beast and its image and would not worship it so he was beheaded. I dont think there is anything else to be said. Rev 20:4 confirms this. But this was a long time ago though.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgement was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years.
|Religion / Re: Pope Francis' Run-in With Benedict XVI Over The Prophet Mohammed by proo212(m): 7:30pm On Mar 19|
@Vedaxcool, are we saying from this article that the new Pope is pro-islam? Since he obviously objected to Pope Benedict's University of Regensburg lecture....I guess I wasnt far off the point when i thought the new pope will be pro-islam and my bets were on Angelo Scola.
Many ways to skin a cat.
|Religion / Re: Jesus was Mentioned In Pope Speech in retrospect by proo212(m): 4:04pm On Mar 15|
Sadly Frosbel is on point. I dont agree with him on some things but even I heard that speech. I listened again to be sure of what he said and yes the Madonna bit just threw me. The bible says Jesus is coming to rapture a church without spot or wrinkle (not madonna).
Someone accused him (Frosbel) of pride, but pride here will be constantly hearing the truth and not walking away from because of history or sentiment.
And for me I admit I got it wrong about who was going to be elected Pope. He was not one of the favourites.
|Religion / Re: Mormons [Members Of LDS] Lets Meet Here. by proo212(m): 10:54am On Mar 12|
Mormonism has been in Nigeria for as long as I can remember. And I definitely remember them walking on the streets with their (briefcases) in white shirts and black trousers (in pairs mostly) with their name tags on their shirts. There was a church near my school in Ondo in 1989. Their missionaries I guess from the states usually drove Nissan Sunny cars.
|Religion / Re: Where In The Bible Did Jesus Mentioned He Is God by proo212(m): 11:49pm On Mar 08|
Frosbel, me I no get you sha...I am not a catholic so I do not subscribe to their doctrines. Reading the bible I am convinced that Jesus is God especially considering what Snowwy has posted. Lets not get carried away by semantics. Geewan and the Jehovah's witnesses are a different kettle of fish entirely.
Geewan, you cannot use the Quran to prove that Jesus is not God. That is another discussion for a different thread. Jesus Christ is not Isa of the Quran.
|Religion / Re: Where In The Bible Did Jesus Mentioned He Is God by proo212(m): 8:29pm On Mar 08|
Excellent, we have a Jehaovah's witnesses and Muslim on this thread who deny the essence of Christ.
@Geewan Hebrews 1:2 further answers your question Hebrews 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.
Everything was made through Jesus Christ including you and I as well as your prophet.
The Jehovah's witness argument is all about Isaiah 9:6 and John 1:1. Almighty God and Mighty God. If Christ is not the Almighty God and just a Mighty God, why is He referred to as Everlasting Father? Why is He referred to as Immanuel (God with us)?
I need your clarification on this before we go further. I'm currently having the same discussion with a Jehovah's witness that came to my house 2 weeks ago (at my invitation of course).
|Religion / Re: African Pope: Campaign Posters For Cardinal Turkson Of Ghana Emerge In The Vatic by proo212(m): 8:35pm On Mar 07|
The people looking for African Pope should go and look at what these candidates stand for. Then they will have an idea who the next Pope will be. Choosing a Pope is about populism and not about doctrine of Christ. The next pope will be very accommodating to a lot of things (definitely not a conservative or African candidates). You guys can speculate and pray all you want...
|Religion / Re: Where In The Bible Did Jesus Mentioned He Is God by proo212(m): 7:37pm On Mar 07|
@Geewan, this is not the first time this question has been asked. I know the muslim line, that is why I am asking you the question why Allah had to declare Mohammed a warner.
@Ikanium, if you are deeper life then you should know...
|Religion / Re: Where In The Bible Did Jesus Mentioned He Is God by proo212(m): 5:45pm On Mar 07|
I do not know if the OP is an Atheist, Jehovah's Witness or a Muslim. I would want to lean on the second two because Atheist do not normally ask these type of questions.
@Geewan, please tell me why Allah had to declare that Mohammed is a warner/prophet
|Car Talk / Re: Post Your Current Car Picture. by proo212(m): 11:20am On Mar 07|
This is my new project, written off by because of a minor damage, got it dirt cheap from salvage auction. Might keep after I'm done doing her up (just needs some tidying up)
|Religion / Re: God Of Judaism, Christianity And Islam...Is there any difference? by proo212(m): 1:12am On Mar 02|
Enilove, thanks for the exposition....and thanks for the Proverbs 8 passage. A Jehovahs witness actually pointed it out to me today which ended up backfiring against him.
If we want to be honest with ourselves, we should find out the attributes of the God of Judaism, God of Christianity and God of Islam. If they have the same attributes then yes, they are the same God. If not, then they are not same God.
I think we have proved that here severally. God of Judaism and God of Christianity has children that call Him Abba Father. The God of Islam does not have children. There are many more differences but i'll stop here for now.
|Religion / Re: Real Reason Why Pope Resigned-- Homosexual Network Among Priests by proo212(m): 11:58am On Feb 27|
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; Rev 18:4
He who has an ear, let him hear what the spirit (and the signs) are saying..
|Religion / Re: No Hope For African Pope - Benedict's Brother. by proo212(m): 1:14pm On Feb 20|
The African cardinal widely tipped to be the first black pope in modern history faced a firestorm of criticism last night after he laid the blame for clerical sex abuse crises at the feet of gay priests.
7/1 Cardinal Angelo Scola, 71
You have to read between the lines guys. I hope I'm wrong and i will be the first to put my hands up when a new Pope is elected. Angelo Scola is now favourite (he wasnt before) after 9 days
|Religion / Re: No Hope For African Pope - Benedict's Brother. by proo212(m): 9:32pm On Feb 14|
The next Pope will not be African. I feel Angelo Scola will be the next Pope. The issue is that the African cardinals are very "conservative" and the church wants to be all-inclusive to everybody. Are we about pleasing the population of the church so that we have the numbers and dumb down the doctrine or are we focussed on preaching the unadulterated the word of God....
Even the South American and Asian cardinals are perhaps more conservative than their European counterparts.
They can make all sorts of excuses about the Africans not being ready and some of us mights see racism at play but the its deeper than that. Its going to be about populist vote and who is seen to be building bridges. My 0.02 cents.
|Religion / Re: To Avoid Being Banned, Please Ensure That Your Post Is Not Offensive To Islam. by proo212(m): 11:13am On Feb 14|
Well the Nairaland Islam section is a subset of exactly what is happening worldwide. The other side has to back down because they always have their way by resorting to violence or threats of violence....That should tell you something and no, you don't have to think to hard.
|Car Talk / Re: Sachi Motorsport - Audi A4 Avant Quattro 1,8 20V Turbo 5MT by proo212(m): 9:42pm On Feb 13|
ah Corrado VR6...memories :-), definitely up for fun after my 205GTi
Hello Siena, sorry to hijack again.. Regarding the question I asked the last time about swapping out a 1.4 engine for an Audi A2 1.4 16v 75ps (not sourced one yet), will it be OK fitting a 100ps engine in A2? Will it pass emissions test? Not sure if there are compatibility issues especially with engine codes
I'm still dragging my feet on replacing/fixing the engine as the problem only becomes an issue when idling for more than 5 minutes or thereabout. When stuck in traffic, I tend to give it some throttle ever so often to prevent it from idling too long. I hear this is an issue with the 1.4 engines.
Your advice is appreciated. Thanks again.
|Religion / Re: Cardinals Peter Turkson Of Ghana & Francis Arinze Are Favorites To Replace Pope by proo212(m): 3:15pm On Feb 11|
The next pope will be Angelo Scola 71 (Archbishop of Milan)...Wait and see
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