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jaystunt: I am the first born in a family of 6 but I hardly ever get the honour or respect that a first born is entitled to.
I'm what u can refer to as a 'figure head' as my dad who's never scared to show his favoritism to my immediate brother thinks he as the 'real deal', hence leaving me relegated to the background. He(my brother) was not quite good with his books but skilled with his hands, and I was the opposite. My dad is a sucker for people like that but to do it in his home at the detriment of his first child is what I've been grappling with for over 20yrs of my life.

Right from when we were very young my kid bro has been very close to my dad and when I got to secondary school and subsequently the uni, it only made the gap btw him and myself wider. We never got together like a father and child do. I remember poisoning myself in junior high when I just couldn't cope with the situation.

Fast forward 5yrs after college, the family split only (a yr ago). Dad relocated to Ibadan and I and my two brothers stayed put in Lagos but in my apartment. He visits every month, but I see nothing changed in the way he behaves towards me.

Only recently I got to know he's about selling one of his houses out. He gave my immediate brother the papers and the all clear to sell It. When I got wind of the information, I wept like a baby as I never thought he could do that to me.
My immediate brother knows pretty well that dad is on his side and hardly respects me in my own flat. It's even gotten to a stage where I feel like throwing him out. He's such a nuisance this days to me not because I'm jealous but his disregard for me as his senior.

I'm a year older but his attitude towards is dat of an elder brother to his junior. My dad still gets things from me but his loyalty and love rests on my brother.

I honestly don't know what to do to get this depression of me.

Guys how can I stay and lead a happy life amidst dis mess! Pls help!

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How won't I knw wen the kitten don slack..... And let's be realistic...only a slut will av bleeped over 10 guys b4 marryin....So assuming she started dating at 18 and she has an average of one relationship per year....By the time she is 28 wen she'll probably be getting married she would have bleeped 10 guys which is only true if each of her relationships last 1 yrs. How many girls date over 10 pple b4 getting married except pple that av multiple date and sex partners at a time.

Ranti Fadahunsi: wa

I think you said it all. YOU WANT THE SEX. Fine. If you find a babe that wants the sex. Bleep her as many times as possible. You are lucky. I WANT THE SEX TOO. MORE THAN YOU WANT IT. But I have decided to keep myself till marriage. Hard. But doable. And any babe who has the self control to hold on till marriage is rare, and should be highly commended. SELF CONTROL. That is the message. Saying you have no self control before marriage makes me wonder how you will cope after marriage. What happens if you are in the USA for a two year program, your wife cannot go with you. WHAT WILL YOU DO? Self control. Sleep around and risk the well being of your family? If you cannot hold yourself before marriage, YOU CAN NEVER HOLD YOURSELF AFTER MARRIAGE if there is a long time separation. I have friends who are married, have lovely wives, BUT STILL CHEAT. So many of them. It is all about discipline.

Babes, if you are a virgin, zip up your pants until he rings up your finger. No better advice I can give you. If you are not a virgin, zip up your pants until he rings up your finger. The fact that you made a wrong turning on the way to Ibadan from Lagos does not mean you should keep on making wrong turnings till you make a catastrophic mistake. I am a guy. I Love Intimacy. I want sex. BUT, mu greatest passion is bringing out the best in people and telling people the truth. And the truth is if you are a virgin, YOU ROCK. Keep on improving yourself. If you are not a virgin and have decided to keep yourself. Good. You also rock in your own way. I will be praying for you. It is hard, I can testify to that, but very doable. And if you are not a virgin and you love regular sex. Good for you. Do as it pleases you. But be ready for the consequence and don't EVER GO ANYWHERE SAYING THAT YOU GAVE HIM ALL AND HE DUMPED YOU!!!! I hate it with a passion when a babe willingly opens her legs for a guy and claims the guy used her!!! I have had a babe say that to me before. She wanted the sex. Told me she wanted the sex. We had the sex. I realised I could not marry her. Wanted to break up with her. And she was asking me why I used her!!!!!
The guy did not ra..pe you, you suggested that you wanted to sleep with him. He slept with you. There are consequences and you cry and say the guy messed up your life!!! Any babe that says that is an ID.I.OT> It was your choice. If he did not ra..pe you, please never go anywhere saying a guy messed up your life. YOU HAD A CHOICE. So if you want to enjoy sex, please go ahead. But know that that is your CHOICE. Period. And finally, Virgins rock. Keep it up babes (if you are a virgin). YOU ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

deavicky: and why is it that we talk about the virginity of the female only and nobody talk about the guys or our own is not important?

Ranti Fadahunsi: wa

I think you said it all. YOU WANT THE SEX. Fine. If you find a babe that wants the sex. Bleep her as many times as possible. You are lucky. I WANT THE SEX TOO. MORE THAN YOU WANT IT. But I have decided to keep myself till marriage. Hard. But doable. And any babe who has the self control to hold on till marriage is rare, and should be highly commended. SELF CONTROL. That is the message. Saying you have no self control before marriage makes me wonder how you will cope after marriage. What happens if you are in the USA for a two year program, your wife cannot go with you. WHAT WILL YOU DO? Self control. Sleep around and risk the well being of your family? If you cannot hold yourself before marriage, YOU CAN NEVER HOLD YOURSELF AFTER MARRIAGE if there is a long time separation. I have friends who are married, have lovely wives, BUT STILL CHEAT. So many of them. It is all about discipline.

Babes, if you are a virgin, zip up your pants until he rings up your finger. No better advice I can give you. If you are not a virgin, zip up your pants until he rings up your finger. The fact that you made a wrong turning on the way to Ibadan from Lagos does not mean you should keep on making wrong turnings till you make a catastrophic mistake. I am a guy. I Love Intimacy. I want sex. BUT, mu greatest passion is bringing out the best in people and telling people the truth. And the truth is if you are a virgin, YOU ROCK. Keep on improving yourself. If you are not a virgin and have decided to keep yourself. Good. You also rock in your own way. I will be praying for you. It is hard, I can testify to that, but very doable. And if you are not a virgin and you love regular sex. Good for you. Do as it pleases you. But be ready for the consequence and don't EVER GO ANYWHERE SAYING THAT YOU GAVE HIM ALL AND HE DUMPED YOU!!!! I hate it with a passion when a babe willingly opens her legs for a guy and claims the guy used her!!! I have had a babe say that to me before. The guy did not ra..pe you, you suggested that you wanted to sleep with him. He slept with you. There are consequences and you cry and say the guy messed up your life!!! Any babe that says that is an ID.I.OT> It was your choice. If he did not ra..pe you, please never go anywhere saying a guy messed up your life. YOU HAD A CHOICE. So if you want to enjoy sex, please go ahead. But know that that is your CHOICE. Period. And finally, Virgins rock. Keep it up babes (if you are a virgin). YOU ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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Finally we're winnig ranti over to the dark side #just kidding. You forget that sometimes is this same girls that you're putting on a pedestal that push for sex. You're talking abt girls as if they r stone and not human beings or they dnt get Hot or hot sometimes too and painting guys as if they r the ones that ALWAYS want the sex thing every time. I can assure u that if u use protection properly EVERYTIME u Be Intimate u will neva get pregnant or get an STI. Some girls also want the sex thing anyway so I cn understand cos I also want it too. But to those to those that don't want it or want to strive for purity I cn also respect their decision. SIMPLE. Life is abt choices. Pick the one that suits u. Nuffin wrong with virgins. And nuffin wrong with disvirgined too.

Ranti Fadahunsi: The Bible states a true fact: The race is not to the swift, the battle is not to the strong, but time and chance happens to them all. TIME AND CHANCE. The most brilliant guy in the class may not be the riches in the class. But his hardwork will give him a better chance at success than the lazy guy stabbing classes. The most beautiful babe in the class may not marry the most handsome guy on earth. But her beauty gives her a better chance of guys chasing her than the ugly babe. There are no gurantees in Life. If you are the best in Maths and you are average in other subjects, what you should do is maintaining your performance in mathematics and improve in other areas.

1) Virgins are the best in terms of intimate purity. A virgin is a babe that has decided to keep herself until marriage.
2) If you are a virgin and you are not a good cook, not doing well academically, etc. YOU CAN WORK ON THAT AND GET BETTER. BUT ONE YOU LOSE YOUR VITGINITY< YOU CAN NEVER GET THAT BACK.
3) If you are a virgin, you have absolute peace of mind. No STDs. No unwanted pregnancies (I know many single mothers. Was jisting with one yesterday and she lamented the mistakes of her past cos all the guys she has met run from her once they know she has a child!!!). No emotional damage from giving yourself wholly to a guy and you are at his mercy if he rejects you and you have to do everything to please him just to retain him. YOU ARE BETTER THAN THAT!!! Place a VALUE on yourself and live true to the value.
4) Virginity is not about hymen. If your hymen is still intact, congratulations!!! But not all babes medically have hymen. Virginity is about the PRINCIPLE OF VALUING YOURSELF, KEEPING YOURSELF UNTIL A MAN WHO LOVES YOU ENOUGH TO WAIT FOR U PUTS A RING ON IT.
5) If a man loves you and truly loves you, HE WILL WAIT. If he wants sex now, HE DOES NOT LOVE YOU. Otherwise why are you disvirgined and not still dating the guy who disvirgined you. Sex as a proof of love is a lie from the pit of hell. If he loves you, he will wait.
6) There are no gurantees in life. The race is not to the swift, the batle is not to the strong. So being a virgin does not mean you will be a good accountant. In fact, there is no basis for comparism. Why compare the presecence of self control and discipline to being a good and successful career woman? that is bollocks. No basis for comparison. I know babes who want to be house wives, revrernd sisters, etc. No basis for comparison there. Pure bollocks. Please dont let any body fool you with that comparison. LOSING YOUR VIRGINITY DOES NOT GURANTEE THAT YOU WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL ACCOUNTANT EITHER!!!! THEIR IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE TWO. While being disciplined will help you in all you do in life, if you don't want to be a career woman and you want to work in a charity organisation, do what gives your life purpose and meaning
7) There are some things we cannot control and somethings we can control in life. I know people that smoke indian hemp and are doing very well in their career. But I know many more that smoke indian hemp and their life is messed up. Why risk smoking indian hemp because you see one or two people doing it successfully. I know one aristo babe that is married (but the husband is a runs man). They are 'happily married' in a way. Some babes do it and get away with it. But if you are a babe, why take the risk? You may not survive it. You can control what goes on between your legs. EXERCISE THAT CONTROL. Self control is the only thing that separates humans from animals. A Virgin who keeps herself exercises self control. And she is the very best. If you have self control, you can succeed at anything. Because discipline is the fundamental requirement that any organisation, school, wants first. KEPP YOUR VIRGINITY. YOU CAN NEVER REGRET IT. AND YOU ARE THE BEST.
9) This is for the virgins out there. Guys that want to add to their number of babes they have slept with will tell you what is beneficial to them (your virginity is worthless). Babes that have messed up their life will tell you what will make you join them (virginity dey get person job for Shell??). Babes, never ever listen to them. Their arguement is worthless. They will never tell you about the risks you put yourself through if you lose your virginity. And let me tell you one truth - ONCE YOU DO IT, IT IS VERY VERY HARD TO STOP!!!! I AM TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO STOP AND TAKES THE GRACE OF GOD. DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!! If you have to change your friends, change them. Anybody giving you an advice that does not add value to your life should not be your friend. There are many good babes and guys out there who will look out for you. Look for them. Keep your virginity. Give it to your husband. Marry the RIGHT guy. You will never ever regret it.

itunu_07:

Well, only ɑ̤̥̈̊n easy fool would believe such ɑ̤̥̈̊ woman Ȋ̝̊̅s still ɑ̤̥̈̊ virgin D̶̲̥̅̊☺n̶̲̥̅̊'t forget its not confirmed unless its broken.if ɑ̤̥̈̊ woman can Be Intimate i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ the Bottom or mouth i seee no reason why she can't do Ȋ̝̊̅† i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ the right place, just dosnt make sense cos there aint no sense of moral i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ her. ☺n̶̲̥̅̊ this point Ȋ̝̊̅s where i readily disagree with Ranti ' virgins Är€ not necessarially the best people around'. Frankly  kinda prefer ɑ̤̥̈̊ couple of my non-virgin frinds Τ̅☺ some virgin ones for some reasons. What we should celebrate i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ ɑ̤̥̈̊ virgin aint the presence of the hymen, but the drive, attitude, απϑ vigour that propells such decisions like rising above societal pressures απϑ the rest..

OILOFGLADNESS: my fellow babes, its a very good experience to marry as a virgin, i have heard 101 goodnews on that, your husband will give 100% respect and in turn you will ever give him 100% and love cos he is the only one that made you enjoy that which God designed for couples.

PEOPLE WHO HAS LOOSED THEI VIRGINITY WILL ALWAYS BE LOOKING FOR CONVERTS" CAUSE THEY ARE JEALOUS, THEY WILL NEVER GIVE YOU ANY GOOD ADVERSE, MEN THAT HAD DISVIRGIN A LOT WILL NEVER CHERISH IT COS ITS NEVER A NEW THING TO THEM.

THEY WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU THAY YOU ARE DECEIVING YOUR SELF, YOU ARE WAISTING YOUR TIME, YOU ARE NOT GETING YOUNGER, YOU ARE MISSING A LOT,BLA BLA BLA BLA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAA........., ALL LIES DONT MIND THEM, THEY ARE JUST JEALOUSOOOOOO.
KEEP IT, GUIDE IT, DONT TAMPER WITH, SO THAT IT WILL BE VALUED AT THE RIGHT TIME, CHEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSS

swiftycool:
Hahahaha so my argument is right u could get married to a virgin who is exactly like the one I described and there is NO way on Earth u can check, after all the precious hymen is there, ur not thinking about it doesn't let the fact go away!

Virginity doesn't prove sh*t because most are secretly PROMISCOUS VIRGINS! Who are involved in stuff as I described and if u found out this about them won't u rather prefer an honest "virteous" non-virgin to that?! If u think am lying get to find out if the virgins who have boyfriends around u or if their bf wud confess. Remember spermz can enter a woman by 3ways not just 1!

Yes there R some all round good ones but many more are not worth it cos even though their hymen is intact they R sluttier in every other way than many non virgins which u cannot check, therefore I still maintain my argument- OVERRATED!!!

swiftycool: @Ranti
Oh ok I get it. From all the arguments I can deduce that virgins are urged to just protect their hymen becos society expects that of them in order to wade of stds and emotional trauma.

But riddle me this like one self acclaimed virgin on some old nairaland thread who says she gives and gets head, gets 4uckd up d Bottom by various guys but never let's a man penetrate her kitty; how does she escape the emotional trauma or std. She's still a technically "virteous virgin" and deserves Ranti's respect right?

Bro. I like ur point of view, but I asure u if u have seen some virgins behind d curtains like some of us guys have, I promise u would have a change of mind and agree with me Virginity is Overrated!

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He aint tellin u he wAnts ɑ̤̥̈̊ virgin do or die ...cos well he can't tell ε̲̣̣̣̥ he Ȋ̝̊̅s ɑ̤̥̈̊ virgin 'xcpt dat'. J̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊s̶̲̥̅̊t̲̥̅̊ kiddn aniwai..virginty Ȋ̝̊̅s ɑ̤̥̈̊ good fin but not necessarily ɑ̤̥̈̊ wife criteria, that was why  included 'virtous'which i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ my opinion is of greater importance.well ɑ̤̥̈̊ man marryin ɑ̤̥̈̊ virgin Ȋ̝̊̅s majorly luck  ɑ̤̥̈̊ gift from God..whoever finds Ȋ̝̊̅† Ȋ̝̊̅s fortunate

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And what the girl he eventually falls in love in is not a virgin. Or leme ask @ranti a simple question. Can u marry or date a girl who is not a virgin? Oya answer....You people are so out of touch with reality. Typical of nigerians sha...Always paying lipservice. Get real

Shawl001: Ladies nd gentlemen, i only read d 1st page of dis article and i saw so many views, though contradicting. D main point is dah, VIRGINS ARE STILL DAH BEST. Always "most preferred" wereva dey fynd themselves in life. Girls, der are blessings attached to u keeping ur virginity. It always delight Gød. As 4me, I love to get married 2 a virgin one day. And am sure that is Gods plan 4 me too. So i want to encourage odas not to b discouraged with wat dis article is tryin to portray, i mean 2 dos who are stil virgins. Thanks nd God bless! Shalom.

itunu_07: @ Ranti fadahunsi
Fank u S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ much...uve realli inspired me...i do write
Απϑ evrything Ɣøû have discussed here Ȋ̝̊̅s more than enough Τ̅☺ do ɑ̤̥̈̊ beautiful write up i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ my schools mags.  pray that God give Ɣøû not only ɑ̤̥̈̊ virgin for ɑ̤̥̈̊ wife but ɑ̤̥̈̊ virtous one.
Its J̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊s̶̲̥̅̊t̲̥̅̊ surpricin aw some people desperately detest ɑ̤̥̈̊ good thing απϑ think upside down.
U Är€ my super hero!!!

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Nobody Ȋ̝̊̅s saying aappiness  success i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ life Ȋ̝̊̅s influenced by virginity...av u evr heard of any1 claimin success i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ life all because she Ȋ̝̊̅s ɑ̤̥̈̊ virgin. All he Ȋ̝̊̅s sayin Ȋ̝̊̅s virginity Ȋ̝̊̅s ɑ̤̥̈̊ virtue J̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊s̶̲̥̅̊t̲̥̅̊ like truthfullness, honestly dignity nd d likes except dat Ȋ̝̊̅† Ȋ̝̊̅s as scarce nd expnsive as diaamond.. these valuesare meant shld be appreciated απϑ encouraged dey D̶̲̥̅̊☺n̶̲̥̅̊'t necessarili give u appiness or success. Ur opinion dosnt change anything

itunu_07:

Α̲̅♍ J̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊s̶̲̥̅̊t̲̥̅̊ tryn nt Τ̅☺ bliv ɑ̤̥̈̊ person cld be dis dull....been fllwn u evr since nd u seem nt Τ̅☺ b able Τ̅☺ assimilate ɑ̤̥̈̊ singles simple Nd straightfoward point.
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Yep....I'm gud in mathematics cos I studied engineering. And I understand perfectly what u're saying but I do not agree with it. So I assume the question u're asking would be If I would choose a non virgin who I love to a virgin who I also love equally. My answer is simple. I dnt care whether she is a virgin or not. My selection is not DEPENDENT on virginity. Bt I care who I'm more compatible with. And humans beings are not perfect. Life is nt also perfect and u cnt represent issues like this with mathematics. Well u cn. But u will make a lot of bogus assumption like u are alredi making. In conclusion, virginity is overrated. Are there not couples that married women that were pregnant for them b4 marriage. Don't some of those couples have happy families. In summary, other thing being like the fact that she doesn't av an STI or damaged womb or slack ***** virginity doesn't make a woman a better woman in the long run. Maybe initially Yes. But after u tear the packet nko. It is the woman's character u live with forever virginity will eventually go.
PS: Why r u the one choosing the dependent variable in this discussion?

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You see the problem we're talking abt now..See someone saying "virtuous virgin". Those two words don't go together. Whereas virtuous is a character thing built over time. Virginity is jst a physical thing that u lose once under a wide possibility of circumstances. If a girl is a virgin as a matter of principle or what she feels is culture or her principle, I can and will respect that. Atleast she knows what she wants and is going for what she believes in. I will love to marry a decent virtuous woman. And to me, virtuous and decent means not sleeping around ,having a good character, being hardworking, remaining loyal, being committed to the family, training the children well, and other good things. Virginity will not make u virtuous or decent. What our society is trying to make us believe is that once you're a virgin, you're decent and virtuous and perfect and without and should be grabbed like hot cake for marriage. (Nobody is indeed perfect) But what of a woman that u marry a virgin and she makes your life a living hell at home or starts being unfaithful compared to a non virgin that you're comfortable with makes you happy, gives u peace of mind and loves you. I knw one of my friends who jst becos a girl told him she was a virgin he wanted to marry her and he was alredi saying ow nice and decent she was. Some1 he barely knws well. If a girlfriend tells me she's a virgin? I will ask her why. And if she says becos of religion or principles or her culture....I will accept her and accommodate her. But it better not be becos she wants to be forming decent cos then I'll definitely be hittin that.lol.

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Basically what we're saying is that YES we respect virgins. But pple do crazy things wen they are in love and I understand that cos I av been in love too and I cannot be judgemental if my girlfriend is not a virgin becos I'm not one. But then I knw what I want in a woman. Virginity is nt rily a criteria. It won't matter to me in 10 yrs time...Oda things being equal.

ivee22: Ranti Fadahunsi: Abegi, what is with the virgin, non-virgin thingy? Virgins are people who have placed a value on themselves and will not allow just any silly guy to deposit their Fluid inside them, put them at risk of contracting STDs, or spending the last 2 days before their period wondering if one silly guy has gotten them pregnant and they have to go for abortions because the silly guy will either deny the pregnancy or deny his responsibility. Virgins are people who VALUE their body and peace of mind ABOVE 5 minutes of pleasure. If you have a problem with that, then please don't go near them. There are many of us guys who respect such ladies that respect themselves (we know that they most probably have no STDs, have not done any abortions and they are disciplined people that can withstand peer pressure and remain principled. Sleeping with a virgin is not a difficult thing of done at the right time (after you have put a ring on it). And it is a wonderful thing for the guy and the babe. Afterall, non-virgins were once virgins!!!! Please, if you have any inferiority complex because you cannot discipline yourself (only animals have no ability to discipline themselves and want to Be Intimate every time they are in the mood), then go find girls/guys that fit into your shoes and stop disrespecting virtuous virgins!!!! Pshewwwww!!!!

Beautifully put, u v said it all. Its nyc 2knw dt dia r stil guys out dia wu appreciate virgins. Thumbs up.

swiftycool:

Awww come of it jor, with this ur new deffinition of virgins, I can also coin out mine to suit my argument. The dictionary deffination of A true female virgin (sexually)is someone whose hymen has not been broken by a Joystick so all ur other explanations r just unnecessary jara. From personal experience many supposedly pure virgins have suceeded to only protect their hymen while they have done and keep doing every other thing sexually possible besides viginal sex; like blowjobz, fingerworks* complete Unclad handling and taking it up d Bottom. Yes technically, nomatter how u try to twist it, these ones R still virgins, but truly aint worth shite! Hence I stand by my belief, virginity is OVER RATED

ayosmiles: u keep mentionin my daughters thinking it will make me change my mind. Virginity is not and will never be a way of measuring virtue nd sorry, got no apology 4 not allowin society mess with my head. That does not mean i don't respect anybody's decision to b virgin just like anybody could be gay if they want but am not gay. When u talk about happines, it is relative. Wht i said abt clinton nd co has to do with success nd prosperity which can b seen but u are not sure if they r happy cos u cant c them, even d chelsea. Prince harry lived with kate b4 they got married, has anybody in england called her a slut? I know of a sis that married as a virgin nd is yet to give birth while a cousin that got preg b4 weddin had her bouncin baby boy. Infact my mom was already pregnant with my brother b4 d weddin to my father. She was not a slut nd they r still 2gether 30yrs later. Want more?

werthy: i think u are just dumb ayusmile

dani1luv: Am a virgin

Ranti Fadahunsi:

Pally, what is your definition of success? Wealth is different from happiness. Happiness occurs when expectation = acquisition. Simple mathematics. The fact that Clinton and co are world leaders does not mean they are happy? Jeez, do you know what Bill put Hillary through with his philandering? Do you know if they are just together because of a political compromise? Do you know a lot of babes think Hillary is silly for staying with a serial cheater And who told you she si happy? Do you know that Chelsea (Hillary's daughter married a very young, focussed, disciplined hardworking guy (I don't know about their sex life so I will not comment about that). It shows that everybody wants the best for themselves and their family. There has been no news of Chelsea sleeping all over the place and no news of her husby sleeping all over the place. Pally, being a virgin and waiting for the right man who values you, will wait for you and put a ring on it before he starts asking for sex gives the babe complete peace of mind. Freedom from unwanted emergencies. And peace of mind helps your happiness. To each his own jare. Just preach your message to your daughters. I pray they take after their father. Chikena.

ayosmiles: U just won't get it. Virginity is not what makes u successful in life. Look at d most successful women in d world. Havin pleasure does not mean u are not responsible. Do hilary nd merkel have to be virgins b4 they got there. Stay there and don't live life 2 d fullest. Gals keep self servicin in ur closet while more socialy conscious folks enjoy their lives with wisdom nd live good lives. The world is changin, pls stay yoked to tradition. Just don't wake up 2morow nd say u have missed nd ur life is borin