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|Travel / Official!! Egypt Air Aircraft EXPLODED From Bomb Onboard!!! by citizenisb: 1:44pm|
Body parts recovered from the crash site of EgyptAir Flight MS804 suggest there was an explosion aboard the aircraft, according to a senior Egyptian forensic official.
The human remains are in small pieces, suggesting that an explosion ripped through the A320 aircraft and the 66 passengers and crew onboard, the official the Associated Press.
"There isn't even a whole body part, like an arm or a head," the official said. "The logical explanation is that an explosion brought it down."
The disclosure will add to suspicions that the plane was destroyed by a bomb, even though no terrorist group has claimed responsibility for Thursday's crash.
|Travel / Four People Died,two Are Missing On Mountain Everest by Omaticaya225(m): 11:23am|
Climbing mountains is not a logical choice, it's a passion,
says veteran climber
Four people died, two climbers are missing on Mount Everest
Climbing had been halted for two years after earthquake,
(CNN) — Danger and death lurk with every step. It's difficult
to breathe -- the oxygen level is a third of what's available at
sea level. The winds are fierce and brutal. The weather is
unpredictable. Temperatures at the summit can be colder
than minus 30 degrees Fahrenheit.
Mount Everest is an inhospitable place for humans, standing
at a majestic 29,028 feet, the cruising altitude of a plane.
Yet every year, hundreds try to scale the world's tallest peak.
Dozens die in the attempt.
This has been a particularly deadly week for those seeking
adventure on the mountain. Four people died in the span of
four days, two others are missing.
On Thursday, crew member Phurba Sherpa fell to his death
while working to fix a route about 150 meters near the
summit, according to Mingma Sherpa, the Nepal rescue team
leader who was at the Everest Base Camp.
Eric Arnold, 36, of the Netherlands, died Friday night of a
suspected heart attack while heading back after a successful
summit, according to Tashi Lakpa Sherpa, the owner of
Seven Summit Treks.
On Saturday, Maria Strydom died after experiencing altitude
sickness. The 34-year-old Australian woman was climbing
along side her husband, Robert Gropel.
And on Sunday, 44-year-old Subash Paul died at Base Camp
II from altitude sickness, according to Wangchu Sherpa,
managing director of Trekking Camp Nepal.
The tragedies come as Mount Everest opens for the first
time in two years after back-to-back disasters crippled all
ascent. In April 2014, a deadly avalanche left at least a
dozen dead, in the single deadliest accident on Mount
Last year nearly 9,000 people died in a 7.8 magnitude
earthquake and its aftershock. The earthquake set off
avalanches that left more than a dozen climbers dead, and
others injured or trapped on the mountain.
This week's deaths may have shaken the mountaineering
community, but those who love the sport say they can't
resist the lure of Everest.
Veteran mountaineer Jim Davidson was airlifted to the base
camp of Mount Everest last year after the earthquake and
"I was certain we were going to die," Davidson said. "The
glacier was shaking back and forth like a hammock tied
between two trees."
But he is back climbing mountains again in Colorado, and is
planning to go back to Everest in 2017.
"It is not a logical choice, it is a passion -- it is a way to
refine yourself into a better version of you, " Davidson said.
"It's a place where you can distill yourself into the best
version of yourself ... what it does helps build personal
resilience for the challenges and opportunities that come
later in life!"
David Morton has scaled Mount Everest six times. He said
the words on his website best sum up his passion for
"After many years I still think it's beautiful that people dream
of climbing mountains. It's wide-eyed, childlike and magical."
"The great thing about the sport of mountaineering is it is
open to everyone," said Kenton Cool, speaking to CNN
International from Cotswald, England. Cool has reached the
summit of Mount Everest 12 times, including this season.
"However on the flip side, we do hope that most people who
go to Everest understand the dangers. ... It is not
considerably dangerous, it is very, very dangerous. And you
do need the depths of experience, you do need the
understanding and the skill set to be able to operate and
even survive at such altitudes ... you can be the fittest
Olympic athlete or you can be a so-called couch potato,
altitude is a great leveler."
High altitude cough and acute mountain sickness are just
some of the problems. Besides excessively cold
temperatures and the possibility of frostbite, climbers face
another extreme: heat. On Everest, the snow and ice act as
a giant reflector for the sun's glare.
A lot is riding on this year's climbing season. The Nepali
government is hoping to revive tourism in a country still
reeling from recent disasters. Since the 2016 climbing
season opened on Everest, at least 300 people have scaled,
according to data from Everest Base Camp as of Saturday.
"Mount Everest is a huge mountain, and it can accommodate
a lot of people at one time," said Alan Arnette, a mountaineer
who has attempted to climb Everest four times, reaching the
summit in 2011. But he said the mountain is getting too
crowded, citing the example of May 19, when about 200
mountaineers tried to scale Everest.
"One of the issues on that particular day was that you had a
very large team of about 40 climbers on one team and they
were going extremely slowly, and so other climbers got stuck
behind them. It's very difficult to pass somebody on Mount
Everest, because you are using a single nylon rope as a
safety line and you are clipped into it ... so in order to unclip
you put yourself at danger," Arnette said. "So you are kind of
stuck behind slow people. And then over time, potentially you
run out of oxygen, and you go slow, you develop fatigue, you
get cold and frostbite, so certainly crowds are an issue."
More than 250 climbers have died since Tenzing Norgay and
Edmund Hillary made the first official ascent in 1953.
But that doesn't faze Jake Norton, climber, photographer,
filmmaker, philanthropist and inspirational speaker. He has
been to the summit of Mount Everest three times, and on
expeditions on all seven continents. He said he finds solace
and joy in the mountains.
"For me it's a place of catharsis," Norton said, speaking by
phone from Evergreen, Colorado.
"Life gets reduced to its most fundamental elements ... I'm
reminded by the mountains that me, my ambitions and
problems are nothing in this great machinery of the universe
... any time we step deeply into nature, we are reminded how
insignificant we are, and I find that incredibly enriching and
Phurba Sherpa and Sugam Pokheral contributed to this rep
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Cutehector(m): 8:48am|
swagifted:is the game compatible with IOS?
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by swagifted(m): 8:46am|
Cutehector:try this game... War plane simulator " on android.. I have really learnt some stuffs... Like thrust level needed for taxiing.. Take off... Cruising level and landing.. When to retract landing gear.. How to maneuver the leg lever.. And when the pull and push the hand lever... Etc etc. The simulator on PC is the height!
|Travel / 7 Reasons Flying Is Still The Safest Way To Travel by mrcassanova(m): 8:37am|
In light of the recent Egypt Air disaster which saw over 66 people lose thier lives, we take a look at why flying is still the safest way of travelling.
Here are seven reasons why you should not be afraid to take flight.
1) Crash rate and number of fatalities of taking a flight compared to motor vehicles is significantly lower. While plane crashes are often highlighted by the media, the occurrence is extremely rare. In fact, these statistics suggest that “you are more likely to die driving to the airport than flying across the country.”
2) Flying gets safer every year. To put this statistic into perspective, the Associated Press determined it is equivalent to two deaths per each 100 million passengers flying commercially.
3) While no one is helping you watch the road from behind your steering wheel, pilots have many eyes assisting them from take-off through landing with Air Traffic Control.
4) Rigorous training - Most airline companies also require pilots to attend at least 2 years of college. Unlike on the road, there is an intense screening process to determine those licensed to fly.
5) Without belittling your car’s latest technology, airline technology makes motor vehicles look like vessels from the stone age in comparison. Sure, your GPS might be able to detect traffic and highlight an alternate route, and maybe you like driving in cruise control, but technology on airplanes controls almost the entire flight.
6) Many drivers are reckless because operating a motor vehicle feels so mundane. Errors such as multi-tasking, failing to wear a seat belt or talking on the phone while driving, On the other hand, the airline industry has been made extremely cautious not to commit any errors, no matter how large or small. The pilot will not take flight unless he has been cleared and is positive the plane is safe to fly.
7) Psychologists can explain why people believe airline travel is more dangerous than other methods of travel: the effect of the availability heuristic. Put simply, the availability heuristic is when people “make a judgment based on what we can remember, rather than complete data.”
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Boeing777pilot: 10:53pm On May 23|
1. When entering a country's airspace, you have to check in with the ATC, so once you enter you gats to Holla at them, same when you are leaving, the said arik flight has to inform Benoise ATC, for example this is W3 approaching xyz at FLXXX, and ATC responds W3 Maintain FLXXX and contact approach on 123. The pilot acknowledges by reading back the same information. Simplified though.
2. It's not that simple, there are a lot of considerations made when planning a flight such as wind, time, traffic, curvature of the earth etc.
3. The small plane, a propeller plane . It can't fly up 30000ft, that's the key thing. If you fly higher, it's faster and burn more fuel.
4. That's why we instrument rated. We can navigate without looking outside our cockpit. " Instrument flying opens your mind to the fact that there is vision beyond sight"
5. Yes. In a matter of minutes, the plane ascends above the rain.
6. Nor vex, not all the pilots talk fast. It may be a rub off from frequent communication with ATC who talk like they have hot yams in their mouths.
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Kx: 7:23pm On May 23|
Hello pilot, pardon my too many questions.
1. Do air traffic controllers have jurisdiction over a nation's air space ONLY or does an arik intl flight Eg leaving lagos to cotonou gets ATC service from d Nigerian controllers alone?
2. I noticed, using flight radar online sites that all or majority of Asia and middle east bound flights that took off from mmia lagos flies out of naija from lag via abuja, through bauchi in the air. Why don't dey just take d short cut of Lagos thru calabar and follow dat trajectory to their destination?
3. On board aero from Abj to lagos around 11pm some months back, we cruised at 18000 to 20000 feet on a small plane. Was scary because I was used to 33000feet or so. What influences the choice of cruising altitude other than the air traffic controller?
4.when pilots "tears through" thick dark clouds in d air,do they still have visibility from d cockpit irrespective of how dark d cloud is?
5. Someone once said from geography days dat it rains from our atmosphere and that planes flies above our atmosphere. In other words, rain nor dey beat aeroplane lol! Is it correct or wrong?
6.dont dey take communication classes in pilot training? Why do pilots talk so fast that dey don't seem to care if the passengers picked what they said so fast or not?
Thanks for satisfying my curiosity.
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Boeing777pilot: 12:12pm On May 23|
No sir, it's for the Auxiliary Power Unit that helps provide power to the aircraft while it on ground.
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by phibetakappa: 11:41am On May 23|
I see exhaust pipe at the tail end of some planes, mostly bigger plane. Do these planes have engines at their tail end?
Thanks for this thread.
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by casttlebarbz(m): 9:04pm On May 22|
God bless u for this thread...never being in a plane b4, but i respect pilots a lot.
thank u once again...
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Boeing777pilot: 5:29pm On May 22|
Different procedures for different planes.
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Cutehector(m): 5:24pm On May 22|
Boeing777pilot:just tell me how to land dah mudafvckn plane. speaking in Samuel L Jackson's voice
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Boeing777pilot: 5:02pm On May 22|
This your question ehn...
Usually the cockpit is secured from inside because of security concerns especially when air borne.
If that unfortunate event happens and a passenger can access the cockpit, he can be guided to land the plane, that's 50/50.
However, the likelihood of that happening is extremely slim.
Landing aircraft generally follows a common procedure but differs by each aircraft and landing conditions.
|Travel / Re: Ask A Pilot... by Cutehector(m): 4:37pm On May 22|
Boeing777pilot:alright. I want to knw how to land a plane.. what is the procedure.. incase during an emergency, maybe both pilots are incapacitated.
What can a lay man do in this point. To land the plane
|Travel / First Photos Of Egypt Air Passenger Jet - Ms804's Wreckage by queenstl(f): 12:04am On May 22|
First pictures of the mangled wreckage from Egypt Air flight 804. The plane's twisted blue metal panelling, marked with Egypt-Air branding, as well as items of clothing and yellow lift jackets have been recovered from the sea, as the search of the wreckage still continues at the crash site.
Investigators have confirmed that smoke alarms were reportedly sounding for almost three minutes on board the flight before it plummeted into the sea. Also, Egyptian media have reported that divers have found the blackbox of the plane, which could provide vital clues into what caused the plane to crash just as it entered Egyptian airspace on its journey to Cairo
|Travel / Re: QATAR And UAE GENERAL VISA ENQUIRIES PART 2 by kaynine59(m): 4:03pm On May 21|
Congrats on your visa.
2pc means u can carry two luggages to be put in d plane...each shd be about 23kg each I think depends on your airline. As pa immigration if u dnt have up to 1k dolls as BTA hold what u have and hold like 5k naira... Cos Ders no escaping it u must pay.... Dem don wise up with d atm card ish and know naija atm no de work for Here..
Goodluck and safe flight... Dnt let d turbulence in mid air scare u... Bless
|Travel / Photos Of The Crashed Egyptair Flight 804 by niceface(m): 1:44pm On May 21|
Crashed pictures of EgyptAir flight 804 have emerged as investigators confirmed smoke was detected in multiple places moments before the plane plummeted into the Mediterranean.
The plane's twisted blue metal panelling, marked with EgyptAir branding, as well as items of clothing and yellow lift jackets have been recovered from the sea, where investigators continue to search the wreckage.
The cause of the crash that killed all 66 on board remains unclear but smoke alarms were sounding for almost three minutes before it began its rapid descent, according to the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) data.
Egyptian media have also reported that divers have found the blackbox between close to the crash site. The blackbox could provide vital clues into what caused the plane to crash just as it entered Egyptian airspace on its journey to Cairo.
Click the link below to see the first photos from the crash
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by hardbody: 1:42pm On May 21|
So the fact some people died means his own rights are extinguished? It is people like you that encourages these operators to flout people's rights with reckless abandon.
He knows his rights and he is exploring his options. If many more Nigerians did this, operators will be saner and act more responsibly.
I am sure if you were to be in that guys shoe you will be happy you were not part of the craft that disappeared. You would rather leave vengeance to God or even go ahead to do thanksgiving in church thereby enriching people that had no hand in any of those things.
Know your rights. Read wide, befriend a lawyer.
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by Snow30: 1:24pm On May 21|
Wowww, but I'm sure they will hesitate to do that to a white man
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by uvalued(m): 12:00pm On May 21|
YoursGEJ:abi oh my brother qnd he de form smiles mstchew
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by successinlife: 11:29am On May 21|
The youngman did the right thing and took the right decision,he sued for what concerns him and not another person's problem.The rule of law must prevail,he would be rewarded accordingly for Egypt's air breach of contract.Think of this,if he bought his ticket and failed to board the flight at the close of the counter,will he get refund?capital NO.So Egypt air should face the law and negotiate or pay all the damages the youngman seeks. Until we take our lawful rights serious we would be treated as none existing.
Egypt Air fumbled,why can't the airline negotiate with another member of star aliance to take their passengers to their respective destinations,it happens in aviation industry often.
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by Vikings007(m): 10:37am On May 21|
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by oginga: 10:09am On May 21|
Mate, sometimes you don't sue people or organizations because you need their dirty money, you take legal action against idiots so as to make them put their smelly and filthy house-(s) in order.
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by loomer: 10:00am On May 21|
Na when person go enter plane?
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by AUTOCRATIC(m): 9:49am On May 21|
YoursGEJ:African mind..... So poor
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by MrMcJay(m): 9:45am On May 21|
He's young but a lot wiser than you. Is it bad weather that made Egyptair get him deported?
That boy had his passport torn, he was detained in two different countries, was deported to Nigeria and suffered physical injuries and emotional trauma.
Next time, get the full facts before commenting.
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by Seun360(m): 9:36am On May 21|
Epp me ask them o.
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by anitank(f): 9:34am On May 21|
ziggy3579:I'm even surprised they're still on this issue since then. I was expecting the Nigerian govt would intervene solely for the fact his passport was torn
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by bettercreature(m): 9:23am On May 21|
YoursGEJ:He is an idioot he can never win the case,air lines reserves every right to change the course of the flight if there is bad weather or any threat to the plane.The most important is to ensure the people on board arrive at their various destinations safely
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by ziggy3579(m): 9:21am On May 21|
I actually saw the boys story on vanguard newspaper dated 2014, the guy went tru a lot. The boy was racially abused, put in cell in like 2 different countries, wasn't given food on the plane for like 4days,was deported back to Lagos from Moldova en route portugal and an Egyptian tore his Nigerian passport right in his face. Which is an insult to the Nigerian govt and we Nigerians as a whole. He suppose sue dem pass $500m sef. Those fucking bastards have no regard for Nigerians
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|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by Project400: 9:12am On May 21|
|Travel / Re: Nigerian Student Sues EgyptAir For Wrong Routing by tuoyoojo(m): 9:10am On May 21|
is it 500 thousands naira or 500 million?
make d d bros Calm down
him wan use the money take buy plane ni
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