rather than negatively portraying the Northern elders, Matawalle should have listed the achievements, programmes and policies, projects of President Bola Ahmed Tinubu in the North and the country as a whole in the first 10 months of the administration

Noerection:
if this your moniker got registered in 2012 I believe you too must have said negative things about the Agulu Barawo

gather your evidence and take him to court

"You've a disgusting hatred towards both Hausas and Fulanis or to say Islam, this is glaringly obvious. It's pathetic. Sorry."

This is how you started. Hausa, Islam and Fulani ain't the same. Like I said earlier, they are different and should be interrogated differently. There are Hausas and Fulanis of other Faiths, and not all Muslims are Hausas or Fulanis. The mistake most people do is to use one for all.


"There is no point educating you about Shehu Uthman Danfodio. If you lack a basic comprehension of a simple geographical and historical issues, I doubt if you can understand that one."

Another salvo you fired at my mention. There was Islam in Northern and Yorubaland long before Uthman Dan Fodio was born. Atleast Fodio wasn't born in the 11th, 14th or 16th century. Dan Fodio was an ethnic purist as seen in his actions. His Jihad saw to the elimination of Hausa Kings and their household but elevated foreigners - his kinsmen to the traditional stool of another ethnic group. How is it possible that amongst the Hausa people that sided with his religious teachings none was found worthy to lead the Emirates he created, even Bauchi Emirate which was said to have gone to a non Fulani drew protests. What makes an ethnic group more godly than the other? Isn't his actions which has survived till today colonialism in the guise of religion? I understand the fact that most of you folks don't want a spot on, on him for the sake of the Faith. But the ethnic imperialism cum his Jihad ain't really rocket science for me to comprehend.


"but if you don't know that there were indigenous Fulanis in Adamawa, Taraba, Bauchi, Jigawa, Kebbi, Sokoto, and Zamfara, among others, then I'm afraid you're not the person you desperately want us to believe you are."

The Fulanis came to those areas hundreds of years after the arrival of Hausas as a 'come and go' herding groups. Very few stayed behind. They are not autochthons, they effectively became indigenes of those areas after the Fulani Jihad. Can you school me on the kingdom they controlled in Hausaland in the days of say, Idris Alooma of Kanem Bornu?


Well you been driving in circles. And your attempt to label my take the position of a stranger is unfortunate and of no importance to this discourse. I also deliberately refused to muddle up my take with issues not relevant to the area under focus. I stated clearly that Adamawa is derived from a Fulani source ie a Fulani name but the Fulanis ain't majority there and that's is what led you mentioning my comment.


"Adamawa Emirate founded by Modibbo Adama in 1800s".

Thank you for stating the obvious that Adama Modibbo Emirate came on in 1800's, of course that's within the period of the Jihad. So weren't there people there before that time? Did the Jihad conquer Fulanis or trees and mountains? No!! it conquered people, autochthonous ethnic groups living there for centuries. I don't remember saying Fulanis are older than Hausas in Nigeria, I opined that even the Hausas migrated into Nigeria and the interminglings led to the loss of native tongues especially with advent of Islam hundreds of years before the Fulani Jihad.


"Check my earlier post on Kwararrafa, Nupe, and Kanem Bornu, I pointed out earlier that there was no trace of Fulanis in those kingdoms, I don't know what brought about claiming "majority status". I maintained that the Kwararrafa was the Jukun part of Taraba and Benue, has anybody to this very day told you otherwise?"

I also opined that the was no kingdoms ruled by Fulanis in 1600 and what existed was Kwararafa, Nupe and Kanem Bornu, and they had little or no Hausa and Fulani in their midst. If Fulanis didn't exist there and had no control of the affairs there, how come they have kingdoms in these places today? And the answer is simply that these kingdoms are a product of the Fulani Jihad. But even with that the indigenous people weren't all killed or dislodged by the invaders neither did they the invaders outnumber them in population, the natives were only out gunned so they accepted the forced rulership of the minority.


" Who were the original inhabitants of Fufore, Girei, Gombi, Lamurde, Mayo-Belwa, and Mubi (both north and south), among others? Jukun, maybe."

The question to be answered by you is, who inhabited those areas before Adama's Kingdom came on board in 1800's. Are they the same inhabitants as seen today? If there was a Fulani Jihad who was it against? Again the places you mentioned do have autochthons who are still there till date.


"If your problem is with reducing the influence of Kwararrafa (Jukun) Gowon, not Danfodio should be blamed for introducing state system in Nigeria in 1967. You did say that you speak Hausa but that "Arewa mu" is, with due respect, saying otherwise. Sorry."


"Kwararrafa comprised largely of some parts of Taraba and Benue but the "spanned about forty thousand square miles that covered parts of northeastern Nigeria, entire northern Cameroon, and part of Central African Republic." (Wiki) So between Kwararrafa and Adamawa which one needs to claim "majority status" (to borrow from you)?"

Kwararafa went beyond Jukun land, it was a multiethnic confederacy stretching from today's North East to central Nigeria. Language and cultural similarities attest to this fact. At it's peak, it was a peaceful and powerful kingdom, at it's fall all the groups under the kingdom went their ways and established their ethnic ruling structure opened to all natives regardless of religious persuasion. Even though they dispersed to various directions they continued to unite to fight off invaders. Gowon wasn't around in the 1800's. He didn't kill the natives and didn't enthrone a Fulani dynasty. Gowon's State creation liberated alot of polities along the axis of my focus, Atleast the establishment of LGA gave most groups the opportunity to unveil their true identity and enjoy some levels of freedom.


I also made it clear that Muslim dominated areas speak Hausa as first language and possibly the only language because it is the language of propagation and interaction, thus those with native tongues easily drop them for Hausa. In non Muslim polities Hausa is spoken but not as first or only language that's not to say that there are no Hausa and Fulani Christians or traditionalist. I also used Benue and Kogi as two states in the North were Hausa ain't an everyday lingua, (infact those who speak, learnt it outside the state) maybe because their neighbors are also natives but most importantly is the fact that there are no ethnic tongues that gave way to Hausa language or was swallowed by Hausa language, also the Fulani Jihad didn't anoint a leader or set up an Emirates there. Today, should any tribe there for any reason loose it's identity or settle for Hausa culture, Hausa language will become their lingua, Islam will set in, then migrant Fulanis from neighbouring countries will troop in to claim indigeneship - this is a known pattern. All I have said ain't unknown to you, but it is normal to hinge on 'the route' and the speculated origin of the Fulanis to seek to drive in circles instead of interrogating the issues. The word Hausa - Fulani is an amalgamation of Northern polities but when broken down the reality stare's one on the face - that is the story of Adamawa and some parts of NC and NE.


"I don't know what you mean by the "attempted attempt in Gombe", it may be another fallacious assumption."

Of course I don't expect you to be in the know of the attempted attempt, the people saw the whirlwind coming and took shelter in a counter move without drama, those who didn't heed the warning on Elrufia eventually are tasting the bitter pill of taking things for granted. Even though I have kept to my area of focus and haven't really bothered about all the examples you gave but I didn't find Yero's name on the list of folks who became deputy governor and governor in a strange land. Like I said I won't bother myself with issues on Political and Economic Fulanis - people who claim or speak Fulani language to gain mileage, a northern scholar has also attended to the issue even Myetti Allah folks have also alluded to that, 'Idon Mikiya' of Vision FM have also contended that some of those in Myetti Allah organization ain't really Fula, Fulbe or Pulaaku... but folks using the ethnic group and organization to pursue their personal interests.


"Is good seeing you saying, correctly this time around, that "Hausa language came first before Islam". This debunked your earlier assertion ecenthpugh you now introduced "Hausanised" again. Lol"

I also didn't say, Islam came first neither did I say Fulanis came first. You mentioned my post because I said there were 'vanished' tongues as a result of the movement of Hausas into Nigeria but you objected to that listing Hausa states and further raised questions. At no time did I say that Islam came first. in my last response I further emphasized that people's of the areas under focus existed before the birth of Jesus and Mohammed, meaning they had a way life distinct from that introduced by Christianity and Islam. of course you understand 'nized' when applied to tribe. Hausa language swallowed and is still swallowing the tongue of natives. I also tried to give example of a tribal Muslim and a non Muslim, and there usage of the language. While Hausa is commonly spoken in the North, it is more pronounced amongst those who use it more. A Karekare Muslim like Distinguished Senator Ahmed Lawal an ethnic Northerner and a non Hausa and a non Fulani may still understand his tongue but it may not be spoken in his house on daily because of Hausa is the official language of interaction amongst Muslims and with inter marriages, native tongues become more submerged. That is not to say Christians don't use Hausa language in Churches but it is limited. Today is Sunday, native tongues alongside English is used, Hausa language is also used especially is mixed communities where people understand Hausa language but were they to be 'Hausanize' Hausa language takes over completely. After it takes over completely, Islam sets in, then Fulanis will show up from other parts of world to say 'ai garin mu na gado ne'. Where Hausa has taken over completely is in Muslims areas in the North West.


"If you want to quote me, do so correctly pls, I didn't say religion is the first consideration for electing pu lic officers, and I also didn't make a sweeping generalisation, I said "in most parts of the North". Check."

Below is your take which generalized;

"NORTHERNERS PAY MORE ATTENTION TO RELIGION THAN TRIBE. That's the reason they voted for Abiola in 1993 and Tinubu in 2023. If you're a Muslim, you can easily contest and win an election in most parts of the North."

MORE, means it scores higher mark or comes first on the table of preference.


"You're yet to convince us that Fulanis truly migrated from North Africa. And you want to bring Buzus again into the discourse. Lol"


The Fulanis themselves speak of it, they have a complex origin because they are 'cluster' with variant tongues. They migrated into and dispersed in Africa, and adapted to cultures of their host before seeking to topple existing kingdoms as seen in Nigeria.

The Buzus are related to the Fulanis and most people even in Nigeria confuse the two principally because there is a political identity in the Muslim North which places religion as the first requirement for sub national and national leaders. A scholar of your faith has treated the origin of some of the prominent personalities in the North who are thought to be Fulanis. That came as a surprise to Southerners not Northerners who already know what he authored and more. So am not making up the Buzu story, i brought it up to affirm your position that religion comes first for a Muslim when voting even if it means voting a foreigner but who is a Muslim.

I also opined that Gobirawa way a distinct group but Hausa language swallowed it up and today Gobirawa is considered a Branch of Hausa language,

If Hausawa refer to Hausa speakers, Bajari refers to Jarawa speakers, Angasawa refer to Ngas speakers etc how come Gobirawa, Bussawa, Dukawa, Zarma, Kambarri etc are refered to as a branch of Hausawa?

l have interacted with people from some of those place and majority of them convinced me that they were a distinct ethnic group with a distinct tongue before the coming of Hausa migrants who funny enough sucked them into their ways of life. I also interacted with people who say the are owners of Kano - Maguzawa I was made to understand it is a religious and tribal description. The folks from Zuru told me they have a mother tongue and they still speak it till date. To my amazement most of the non Muslims I interacted with still speak their mother tongue alongside Hausa, while their Muslim brethren prefer Hausa and hardly bother about their mother tongue. Each relied on oral history passed down from generations to generations as the source of there fact,. The early Hausa migrants were traditionalist.

I had an acquaintance from Michika who one day told me he is Hausa-Fulani. But you told me you are of Higi ethnic stock, So what changed i inquired. I then asked him if his folks who are of other Faiths share in his 'new ethnic identity'. He told me that when he is with his kinsmen he speaks his native language but reverts to being a Hausa person while away. I further inquiried why he wouldn't agree to be a Hausa man in his village he laughed telling me that would be counter productive. But adopting or belonging to Hausa-Fulani will give him mileage. I encouraged him to hold on to his native identity instead of adopting another man's identity or subscribe to the Hausa-Fulani political identity which only benefits those who designed it and is of little benefit to the surviving ethnic groups of North.

What I narrated above is the common experience of majority of the youths who have lost their ethnic identity because their parents don't speak their mother tongue at home or they themselves don't speak so as to be regarded as Hausa or are seeking for visibility within the national and national space.


What I have expected of you in this discourse is to put it to (me) that some parts of present day Northern Nigeria were coopted from Cameron Chad and Niger. Lumping some of this strange fellows together by the modern governance architecture of Nigeria is what is giving many the wrong impression about origins. My takes ain't borne out of revisionism, pettiness or primordial intellectual discourse. But like I said I am informed.

FiftyFifty:


This seems to be your best attempt so far in this discourse but even this isn't without its deficiencies. If truly you're from the NC you should know some of the points I raised even if my "known tales" will not change your "position".

Check my earlier post on Kwararrafa, Nupe, and Kanem Bornu, I pointed out earlier that there was no trace of Fulanis in those kingdoms, I don't know what brought about claiming "majority status". I maintained that the Kwararrafa was the Jukun part of Taraba and Benue, has anybody to this very day told you otherwise? The Wiki referred to Yola the capital of Adamawa state as "the capital of a Fulani state until it was taken over by the British in 1901." Who were the original inhabitants of Fufore, Girei, Gombi, Lamurde, Mayo-Belwa, and Mubi (both north and south), among others? Jukun, maybe. If your problem is with reducing the influence of Kwararrafa (Jukun) Gowon, not Danfodio should be blamed for introducing state system in Nigeria in 1967. You did say that you speak Hausa but that "Arewa mu" and "garin Hausa" are, with due respect, saying otherwise. Sorry.

Kwararrafa comprised largely of some parts of Taraba and Benue but the Adamawa Emirate founded by Modibbo Adama in the 1800s "spanned about forty thousand square miles that covered parts of northeastern Nigeria, entire northern Cameroon, and parts of Central African Republic." (Wiki) So between Kwararrafa and Adamawa which one needs to claim "majority status" (to borrow from you)?

Is good seeing you saying, correctly this time around, that "Hausa language came first before Islam". This debunked your earlier assertion eventhough you now introduced "Hausanised" again. Lol

If you want to quote me, do so correctly pls, I didn't say religion is the first consideration for electing public officers in the north, and I also didn't make a sweeping generalisation, I said "in most parts of the North". Check. You cleverly smuggled in competence as a yardstick in electing officials in the Christian north, but what we've seen so far especially with Ortom, Darius, and even Lalong suggests otherwise. I don't know what you mean by the "attempted attempt in Gombe", it may be another fallacious assumption.

You're yet to convince us that Fulanis truly migrated from North Africa. And you want to bring Buzus again into the discourse. Lol

Flame333:
Confuse late minute hypocrisy...

he is on a mission in APC

He is an excellent specimen of how not to be a governor.

APC's specimen.

FiftyFifty:

The way you talk, I doubt if you've ever been to the North, the core-north. You use the data from Wiki when it suits you and when it doesn't you tender an "apology to wiki".

So Hausas migrated from Sudan but the same Sudanese speak Arabic. The few Hausas there found themselves there due to the journey to Mecca for pilgrimage.
You alo said the Hausas came through "Tripoli route" If you are coming to any part of Nigeria from Sudan you have no business with Tripoli which is far north, you head westward pass Chad and you're in Nigeria. Geography is added to your problems after history.
Churches in plateau uses Hausa in their service just like I told you that the Birom people uses Hausa language even among themselves. You don't know all these you're here presenting yourself as an authority in a subject you're obviously oblivious of.

Kanem Bornu is in the south of Hausaland? Lol. This is embarassing to you, wallahi. Kanem Bornu is in the east, take note.

You shy away from a answering this simplest question: Before Islam came to Hausaland, what what was the language of the original inhabitants of Kano, Zazzau, Katsina, Daura, Kazaure, Gumel, Gusau, Gobir, Rano, and Mafara among others? Waiting for your answer.

The Fulanis, you said, came to Nigeria from North Africa, how come there's no any country in northern Africa that speaks Fulfulde, or they just decided to migrate all at once, and in millions?

Nupe people are largely in Niger, Kwara, and Kogi states; Kwararrafa is the Jukun side of Taraba and Benue states; Kanem Bornu was Borno, and some parts of Yobe states; there was never the trace of Kanuri, Jukun, and Nupe in Adamawa so who was the inhabitants of Adamawa, or it was just a plain land?

Politics in Nigeria comes with its peculiar intricacies, it is not always a determining factor in this regard. Late Abu Hashidu was a Governor in Gombe in 1999, he was Fulani. Inuwa Yahaya, the current Governor is also Fulani. Gombe, like some states in the North has a negligible percentage of indigenous Christians, there's therefore an unwritten agreement to always give them a Deputy Governor's slot except where they misuse the gesture and provoke the Muslims like in Niger and Kaduna that's where they will lose that opportunity since the Muslims can win any election without them. In Gombe, just like in Adamawa the relationship between the two faith is cordial, so? This further exposes your ignorance about the north and its politics. Another example is Taraba which is a Muslim majority state (I know you'll argue but try and have a heart-to-heart discussion with anybody from Taraba and he'll tell you), another pointer is that from 1999 to date, two out of the three senators representing the date in Abuja have always been Muslims. That tells you all you need to know. Why they are not been governors is a topic for another day. Also, from 1999 to date all the governors in Bauchi state came from one senatorial zone, is Bauchi south senatorial zone more populous than the northern and central zones? Still, consider this points, Jonathan is from Ijaw tribe, is Ijaw among the major tribes in Nigeria? In the recent elections, Tinubu lost to Peter Obi in Lagos, does Lagos belongs to the Igbos? Same Tinubu lost to Atiku in Osun, yes Osun, not Adamawa. What is this telling you? Northerners pay more attention to religion than tribe. That's the reason they voted for Abiola in 1993 and Tinubu in 2023. If you're a Muslim, you can easily contest and win an election in most parts of the North. Shekarau governed Kano for 8 years, he was a minister and a senator but he is originally from Borno. The immediate Governor of Bauchi M A Abubakar is from Kogi. I can go on.

There is no point educating you about Shehu Uthman Danfodio. If you lack a basic comprehension of a simple geographical and historical issues, I doubt if you can understand that one.

First, I am of the North Central, Second, I speak Hausa, Third, I am an informed person, Fourth, I know the contentious issues in the inter group relations within my zone & region. Of course I don't expect you to accept it. Your rehearse of known tales doesn't take away my position and the facts.

I mentioned three kingdoms to portray to you that there were NO Fulani empire in there present places before Dan Fodio
to claim majority status. My area of focus are NC and NE, because one of the kingdom cover two zones. Can you state when the Emirate system led by Fulanis started? And before it started where there rulers and inhabitants in those places? I have dealt with Hausa language and it's use in 'Arewa mu' it was a trade language that swallowed other languages especially with arrival of Islam. Hausa language came before Islam.

Before Jesus and Mohammed, these communities existed. The question are; where there other religions there before the arrival of the big two and how old where they before the big two came into existence? how old is Islam as a religion? Is Islam older than Hausa language? Is Hausa and Fulani the first or earlier languages of peoples of today's garin Hausawa?

Hausa is spoken in native areas but not like in Hausanized areas. In igala land for example they preach with their native tongue in Churches and Mosques but once they are Hausanized, Hausa will supplant their native tongue and even the use of English language in worship places will disappear. In Birom land, Birom, English and Hausa are used in both Churches and Mosques. But if they are Hausanized, Hausa language takes over their native tongue than Islam sets in.

You rightly said religion is the first consideration for electing public officers in the North but that is in the Muslim North. In the Christian North, tribe and competence are the major considerations. Islam is not known to tolerate tribal lines. Some Northern People submit to the religion to gain visibility but others have rejected it and are holding on to their identity thus their exclusion...

In Adamawa the natives of both religions are doing a collaboration, because the division amongst them in the past aided the narratives that Fulanis control, dominate or own them, same in Taraba. I have refused to mix three variables together, Hausa, Islam and Fulani. They are different and are to be interrogated independently before drawing up a conclusion. But you are using Islam for all, some use Fulani for the three.

I won't get into the political dynamics in Taraba, Kaduna, Niger, Kwara the attempted attempt in Gombe. Sadly, I know the world map. I know where Sudan is and where Niger is. Tripoli route is a trade route, am sure you know that route, I also know you know there are Hausa speakers on that route some of the migrants from that route have already attained great heights in this country. 'Borno was the southern terminus of the trade route coming from Tripoli' - THE ROUTE.

Fulani's are said to have descended from amongst the Arabs of Middle East. Some of them claim the Buzus are another of them with a variant tongue, even the nomad 'cluster' in the East Africa are said to be another variant of the same group. What many Southerners refer to Fulanis are sometimes Buzus and the Fulanis have also alluded to this.

I won't also bother myself with POLITICAL and ECONOMIC Fulanis.

Objectivist04:

So you agree that the government of Anambra recognized the man's prowess and promoted him ryt ?

I still insist the Governor shouldn't make it look like something very special. Ain't igbos commissioners in Lagos?

we need actions in court and jail not talk

bigpicture001:


Bros it is a big lie.....get me a name of any igbo in ibadan who has risen to perm sec in the civil service.......u can b employed into civil service but that is where it stops.....

Dont disappoint me..get me a name

you maybe correct but Igbos are there in their numbers working in Oyo, Lagos & Ondo. Promotion is subject to the powers that be. And if it hasn't happened I can happen there too someday.

helinues:


Bro, this is not banter. That statement is quite common in Nigeria even the individuals who used to be rich but things are now down, they would be like God should bring back the old time, hahaha, if old time was good, you wouldn't have been broke.

Best prayer is for God to bring better time far more than before.

ok. I get you. o God bring back the old times because it was better for me. it is in search
for a better future that Buhari was elected and we are all living witnesses to how it turned out

helinues:


To come back to stand still?

How about to get more better than before

haba kai! Must you bring banter to everything. we want the economy to come back from the dead. Right now the naira gains ain't reflecting positively on 'downward' cost of items in the market. Prices are still climbing, we want it to begin to fall so our 'buying power' can improve

we want the economy to come back

Christistruth00:



They think it’s special because they are not used to doing such things

Again that is not true. If Adebayo didn't want he wouldn't have stayed, he stayed and got his due. There are Igbos in Ibadan enjoying same. I don't expect a Governor to talk about it like it was a special favor

nothing special about it

DMerciful:
To be honest, the Obidients do not give a damn about Yahaya Bello. I especially want him arrested because he has been very arrogant for 8yrs and has been ruling like a dictator.

Infact, the more APC fight each other, the better for us

APC supporters ain't smart one bit. They steal and defend the thief only to try to deflate their crime by pushing it to others. Bello is only relevant to APC folks, he is of no importance to supporters of other parties. The Op is one of Bello's supporters

promise and fail people

immortalcrown:
Enter farms, check underaged nomads, check the female teenagers enslaved in marriage.

I seem to agree with this stat even though I doubt their stats. alot of SE people start their apprenticeship by serving their masters and when found trust worthy and humble the real training sets in and settlement follow after 'graduation'

FiftyFifty:


You seem to like talking without saying anything. How's the story different in the Nupe, Kwararrafa, and Kanem Bornu while they've neither been Hausa nor Fulani to this very day? Did you see anybody mentioning them among the Hausa-Fulani? Certainly no. So what's exactly your point? You may be shocked to know that the Birom in Plateau state uses Hausa even among themselves. Did anybody force them?

You didn't tell us from which Tripoli the Hausas came from and you're now shifting the goal-post again... Tell us where did the Fulanis came from and spread across northern Nigeria especially the North-east? If you must comment in a public forum you ought to have done your home work properly. You can only mislead some of the people, not all the people. If this were exam, you've failed and failed woefully.

Hausa is widely spoken in the North that I mentioned but not all Northerners understand or speak Hausa especially in states like Kogi, Benue and Kwara. Hausa speakers are now more amongst the natives especially those who lost their tongues at the advent of their interactions with Hausa traders in the early centuries. Hausa language is 'swallowing up the tongues' of natives speakers especially amongst Muslims because that is the language of propagation and interaction amongst Muslims in most of Northern Nigeria.

The Hausa tribe is an ethnic group that lives in the northwestern region of Nigeria and the southern region of Niger. The Hausa people migrated from Sudan. The Hausas established some strong states in Niger. The powers in that region had declined in the previous centuries, and with the addition of the Hausas in that area, they soon emerged as the new power. Most Hausas are devote Muslims. The Hausa people are known for their trading locally and long distance. Borno was the southern terminus of the trade route coming from Tripoli - the route.

Today is jummat, 97% of mosques will use Hausa language to preach but same can't be said amongst other adherents because they retain their tongues even when married to another ethnic group from the North. It is this situation that makes most Southerners to think that most people in the North are Hausas. Trade and religion pushed up Hausa language and it swallowed others, the native tongues that were swallowed or wiped out are Muslim dominated and those still standing or still mixed are majorly of another Faith.

In this can be found the reasons for the attempts by invaders to grab the lands of natives so as to subject them to their ways of life. Benue and Kogi states are the only state in the North without Hausa and Fulani claiming nativity there. If any tribe there is Hausanized the invaders will hide behind them to settle there permanently and claim nativity of that area, only to turn around to dominate the Hausanized people. Fulanis hide behind 'Hausa' people to invade and claim indigeneship. Most of the attacks on Central highlands and the adjoining low lands is an attempt to Hausanize them so as to claim indigeneship rights there.

The Fulani people came from North Africa and settled in Central and West Africa from there they dispersed to various directions. They were not indigenous to this country. The Hausa–Fulani identity (a political identity) came into being as a direct result of the migration of Fulani people into Hausaland in the 14th century and their cultural assimilation into the Hausa society. The Hausa population is much larger but some Fulanis positioned themselves as the ruling class among the Hausas.

Fulanis were constant visitors to Nigeria as they are today, they bring in their cattle to graze into Nigeria during the dry season and return to their roots when the rain sets in. They paid jangoli tax to the rulers of the North. The Fulanis back then complained of the tax burden and sometimes resisted it. It was in this State of things that an itinerant preacher - Usman Dan fodio appeared on the scene and took advantage of the 'oppressive, corrupt and disunity amongst Hausa rulers to launch a religious crusade in the guise of propagating clean Islam or true worship of God but his agenda was to secure his kinsmen from the Hausa rulers. The Hausa commoners believed him and gave him the support to fight their rulers. He overthrew them with the help of the commoners but replaced the Hausa rulers with Fulani invaders and the new rulers started their own oppression till date.

The Fulanis had no control of any empire or kingdoms in North Central or North East as at 1600. What was dominant was Nupe, Kwararafa and Kanem Bornu and the Fulanis, and to a large extent Hausas weren't part of these kingdoms. It was Dan Fodio's crusade that formal placed Fulanis as the rulers of some communities though before the crusade there were reports of raids on communities in an attempt to grab their land.

Fulanis are found across the states of the North East but they have no dominant control of any State. A pointer is their struggle to lead Gombe and Adamawa, they can't be majority (apologies to Wiki) yet failing to produce governor, deputy and sometimes Speaker and deputy back to back. In these States the national elites are Fula because of aristocratic influence but at the grassroots lay the real owners of the communities. There are also political and economic Fulanis but I won't delve into that.

Hausa language and culture is unique I must say, an encounter with the language can tamper with ones identity. Eg Former Senate President - Ahmed lawal, is Karekare from Yobe State but I doubt his language is a mainstay in his house and if Hausa swallows his tongue tomorrow it will be written that Karekare is a branch of Hausa. His none Muslim kinsmen still speak their tongue along side Hausa language. Goje and Dankwambo are also non Hausas but I doubt their mother tongues are prevalent in their homes. The above scenerio is very common in the North West.

FiftyFifty:


You've a disgusting hatred towards both Hausas and Fulanis or to say Islam, this is glaringly obvious. It's pathetic. Sorry.

So, the Hausas came from Tripoli (There are two Tripoli by the way, one in Libya and the other in Lebanon, both countries speak Arabic, not Hausa. So?) Who were the original inhabitants of Kasar Hausa like the one in Kano, Rano, Katsina, Zazzau (Zaria), Daura, Kazaure, Gobir, Gusau, and Kauran Namoda, among others? Have you ever heard of Bagauda, Bayajidda, Bawa Jan Gwarzo, and Queen Amina of Zazzau?

I don't know what you mean by "Fulfulde is an invaders language" but if you don't know that there were indigenous Fulanis in Adamawa, Taraba, Bauchi, Jigawa, Kebbi, Sokoto, and Zamfara, among others, then I'm afraid you're not the person you desperately want us to believe you are.

Honestly, I don't know where you got this mis-information from, that you believe
and attempt to propagate them is even more surprising.

Fulanis were visitors in northern NIGERIA before Dan fodio's jihad made them indigenes up to Ilorin. Nupe, kwararafa and kanem Borno existed long the Fulani invasion and Islam was practiced there. These kingdoms were neither Hausa nor fulani but today the story is different. North Central Hass been able to retain it's native identity largely because it doesn't share border with trans Sahara trade routes.

Validated:

They can deny all they want, we know the truth. They are only denying because of what would be a backlash. However, no country allows its currency to float and depreciate uncontrollably.

We all saw when Russia Ruble was being depreciated due to trade sanctions. It fell by up to 40% of its value. Putin did not just allow such uncontrollable fall, he acted to stabilize the national currency. One measure was for the Russian Central Bank to hold an emergency meeting and took some stringent measures to stabilize it. Nigeria is not under any trade sanctions and we import even toothpicks, so what is the sense in allowing our currency to float to the extent of losing 360% of its value? That is insanity!

I am for the floating of currency but in a highly productive economy, politics of currency notwithstanding . But he could still have floated it with little damage if the economy was strong. Supporting the naira again will also do damages to the economy and people's of Nigeria because money will be thrown in but the cost of living won't reduce as it climbed

garfield1:


Lol so we should now believe a nobody? Are you aware that all ethnicities migrated from somewhere else to settle in Nigeria? Are you aware that the fulanis already settled in Hausa land before launching the house? Continue furthering balderdash

I don't say you should believe me and disbelief scholars but interrogate some of their claims that's if you have superior information or knowledge. Every ethnic group in Nigeria had one form of movement or the other. Those movements ended centuries before the arrival of Dan fodio and his jihadists. Hausa is commonly spoken in the North but most of the Northerners have other tongues distinct from Hausa. Inter marriages have also affected native tongues especially amongst Muslims who hardly retain their tongues even if they are of the same tongue.

But CBN is denying it.

FiftyFifty:


Lol. This guy, I don't know what we've done to you. In the other thread your problem was with the Hausas and here is with the Fulanis.

He has simply stated the fact. Surprised that you don't know this.

Ethnic communities existed in the North before Hausa traders reached the North in the early centuries and settled there. Hausa is a trader language while Fulfulde is an invaders language. Islam in Nigeria greatly relied on Hausa language because those traders who came through the Tripoli route were Muslims and spoke Hausa. Most Southerners like the Op believe everything taught to in GST class or read in some revisionist text books.

fuckJones:
ayu is not from north east

I said same North as Ayu

flokii:


Very distinct.. but religion and culture makes the two blend excellently well.

Hausas are the largest ethnic group in Nigeria followed by Yorubas.

Yoruba is the largest ethnic group in Nigeria. it is the amalgamation of northern polities into Hausa-Fulani that is the largest ethnic stock in Nigeria. indigenous hausas are much but ain't much like Yorubas an igbos

garfield1:


You talk carelessly and childishly about what you know little about.a simple search on Google will tell you that fulanis dominate those states.how will you have the top elites when you don't dominate that state? It is pure madness

I asked you to generate information from the net but also warned that not all information is correct. Information you generate could be subjected to content analysis. You haven't lived in these states neither have you visited them. When last did a fulani person govern these States? Who are the governors & deputy governors of these States from 1990-2023?
Fulani elites are top of the social order in the States they claim that is why most southern people think they dominate the North or the states they claim. They are largely a negligible population in most states.

favor914:
Explain wetin, Federal High Court done rule, Federal High Court must ratify the suspension of a party’s chairman at national level, or else it is null & void ab initio.

State chairman, state high court get jurisdiction, national level, na Federal High Court get the jurisdiction.

Make you go rest with your bad belle, wetin even concern you Obidient with APC matter?

bad belle ke. APC, LP, NNPP
PDP, SDP their wahala na their wahala. I don't loose sleep over them neither do i fight or insult people because of them. But you are a die-hard that has been attacking others yet you want mute indifference for APC.

garfield1:


Oga,fulanis are the most numerous ethnicities in gombe and adamawa from this explanation

The issue with you is that you argue what you have little knowledge about. Adamawa is a non fulani state though they may have the top elites but the population are non fulani. Gombe State is same

Nigeria from one controversy to another

favor914:
Maybe for your eyes 👀, maybe you be like Stevie Wonder, & you no fit read the headline?

Federal High Court Dismisses Ganduje’s Suspension.

una go explain tire

una go explain tire. Ain't other ex governors honoring the efcc invite. Why the drama?

favor914:
Federal High Court has the jurisdiction, not one local state high court controlled by the Governor.

https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-court-suspends-oshiomhole-as-apc-chairman/amp/

That's the norm and PDP folks celebrated it when it happened to Osho, APC celebrated it when it happened to Ayu now it's ganduje"s turn. He remains suspended in the eyes of the law