Nimshi: BARRISTERS,

you're a joke.

Who cares if you're a JW or not?

You're an embarrassment to the human species.

But you may have a childlike sense of humour, eh; I don't know of Ola & MyJoe, but I'm trilled to be part of that Trinity ;-)

But you, you have your head firmly implanted in your rectum: your front end and rear are a duality unto yourself; congratulations (I must not go wash my fingers after typing that). . .

I have noticed MyJoe - whom I have fiercely disagreed with on this thread - is a very patient human; and even MyJoe says you're irredeemable, it's time to wipe the floor with you.

When your elders find you're having these conversations on the Internet, you'll be hurled into the backroom and thoroughly chastised, after which you will 'repent' in ashes and shame. Really, do you think you're free? You're not. but that's your choice; the problem is that you mislead people. And you have rather poor reasoning skills.

And, your manner of cut/paste with others' words tell you've learned very well from your WT masters.

Well done. Your masters will reward you ;-)

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Maximus85:
Mr. We are not saying we are the most righteous. But come to think of it, Jesus, John, Paul and other men of God in the days of old were also accused of misleading people. The world is under the influence of the wicked one (satan) so we can't expect people to want to hear the truth about satan and his present system of things. And again, when you are pressed don't insult people, because we are trained to teach with self control and deep reapect. Jesus christ and his disciples preached the good news of God's kingdom from house to house, door to door, and in the whole world we the JW seems to be the ones taking this assignment primary. Remember the bible said that the road to salvation is very tiny but the path to destruction is very large and wide. Give it a thought. Why are we the JWs so different? Do you know that Jesus has more than 12 disciples when he was on earth? There were 70 other disciples. We take our time to study the Bible before going out to preach. Satan is not resting, he is doing his best to make sure that our preaching assignment is not succcessful. Little wonder why some people will not listen.
Even among us the JWs, we have some people that has allowed satan to use them and if you know this much about JWs and you don't know how we dis fellowship wrong doers, then I find it hard to acknowledge your un-bias stand in this issue.
All you are portraying is pure hatred for the JWs. Well....we don't mind, in fact we are expecting more. None of Gods kingdom preacher were treated well. Jesus was killed, stephen was stoned to death, John the baptizer was beheaded,some were imprisoned, some were even burnt alive. We are prepared for all these. You may continue, Paul was Saul, he hated christians until he encountered the truth. God help us all. Take it.... We are worshiping God and not satan.

If the world is under the influence of Satan, then why did you climb in bed with the UN, your 'wild beast' of Revelation?

Nimshi:

There're lots of mistakes and needless assumptions in your post, starting from the first words; people who make f*oolish assumptions provide into a window into how their mind works.

Are you people now Jesus, Paul, etc etc? Of course, you are saying you are the most righteous.

If the world is under the influence of Satan, then why did you climb in bed with the UN, your 'wild beast' of Revelation?

Ah, look: starting from my original post, I'd made it clear that I do not think anything of wiping the floor with posters who clearly present as men and want to lord it over everyone else, includign their favourite targets: women. Your religion deeply despises women; that's clear. Don't expect any reverence here. MyJoe is the moderate one who has a different approach.

What you'r epreaching isn't what JEsus and his disciples preached. Your good news is this: 'everyone not a JW will be killed by your god anytime soon, so join our little group so you can be safe'; isn't that it? It's not good news; it's nonsense.

JWs are different partly because they are deluded; and partly because years of indoctrination would have fried your brains. This is the clear mark of irrationality: youwill accept whatever your masters in Brooklyn publish in the Watchtower as truth; that's supreme mental slavery. Give it a thought.

You don't study the bible: you say whatever Brooklyn says to say, inlcuding reading from your nonReasoning from the Scriptures in response to questions over your heads.

You have a persecution complex about this Satan fellow. How many of you people? Seven million or so, supported, presumably by angels, eh? And Satan's been running ropes around you for how long? You can't even keep the children of JWs in, with your retention rates lower than 40%; then you attack poor, uninformed people in third world countries; plus, your congregations are safe havens for paedophiles.

So, how many JWs have been killed for being JWs in recent times? You keep talking of Peter, Stephen, Jesus, etc etc; what do these people have to do with your little American religion?

You're not even witnesses of Jesus; you're witnesses of Yahweh, the tribal Hebrew god/God.

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MyJoe:
So this is your reading of the exchange. That I am a typical Nigerian who has refused to be convinced that the Witnesses don’t support child abuse in spite of copious evidence brought forth. Well, we do know that reading and comprehension aren’t your strong points.

MyJoe:

You should be embarrassed at that ^^^. How can you be so dishonest as to cut a portion I said I have no desire to engage an issue and paste and link it with an unrelated portion from another thread? You sound so hysterical, you deserve some pity, as you lash out like a wounded beast in one of them dragon movies. I certainly would not like to be your wife and kids when you are angry.

Do you rub your brain cells together, at all? Let’s say I am the “mouthpiece” of the Catholics as you have now decided to croon, again, does that automatically mean I am wrong and you are right? If I was their spokesman, which I am not, I doubt I have been an embarrassment for them as you have been for the JW with your incoherent arguments! You keep repeating that I was arguing alone, does that make you right? So no one is challenging you. A lot of nonsense gets spewed around here. Sometimes people can’t be bothered to challenge you – it doesn’t mean you are right. Besides, you speak for a closed group that most people know nothing about its inner workings and so they usually don’t know how to respond to you guys. Again, that doesn’t mean you are right. The way to get people to take you seriously is to calm down and engage the issues. Not when you scream "contaminated reasoning" without showing the particulars for the statement by picking up a single argument of mine and deconstructing it.

That I am not engaging the substantive issue of child abuse by trying to convince anyone about it does not mean I will not respond to your direct lies and misrepresentations, either of MyJoe or the issue at hand.

MyJoe: I am responding to your earlier posts primarily because of the portion you asked me to substantiate my allegations that your church has made payouts since that concerns the veracity or otherwise of my claims, and hence my integrity. The rest of your post is mostly screaming invectives in two languages and making allegations directed at my person rather than the issue, allegations you somehow believe will stick just because you make them even without building any premise for them.

I have consistently declined to post links or copy and paste in this thread even when people demanded BBC and CNN and you will not stampede me into doing anything. Your church has not denied that it has made payouts – it has admitted that much in conventions in the US as I stated earlier. You believe that’s a lie? You will believe what you like. This matter is public knowledge. The matter of payouts believed to run into millions made to 16 victims is stated in the same Wiki article you yourself have already invested with credibility by lifting from it. As is a case involving $788,000 or so. Yet you have desperately turned around to accuse me of “forcing lies” about what you are not aware of on you in stating that you know about payouts.

There have been payouts which your selective use of facts has kept you too hamstrung to admit. There have been other court cases involving payouts – your attempt to pass off the eleven cases involving only elders as eleven cases involving the whole church notwithstanding. Anyone interested in the above can copy and paste your link to JW and child abuse cases in the previous page. My primary reason for getting involved with you in this thread and pooh-poohing your post was because you skipped all these, picked the one case where the Witnesses were awarded money and contrasted that against a truckload of material against the RC even though they are in no way a subject of discussion in thread and even though there is also a lot of material against the JW on the matter online. I don’t need to engage the issue to do this. If I was engaging the issue I would match you in copying and pasting truckloads of info. I had only one point – that since both churches have been accused in the matter and have paid out money, one does not have a moral high ground over the other. Anyone who follows that link of yours will establish this fact. Further reading will help them further. So I have accomplished my aim of calling you out on your egregious posts. It doesn’t matter what you spout in your blind rage and I have not even asked anyone to take anything from me. I have invited them to make their own findings, hear from the critics, the victims and their families, the media and the Witness’ spokespersons and make up their minds, as this thread hardly does justice to the subject of child abuse among the Witnesses.

Show me where I have praised your church to the valleys, much less the high heavens. Saying that they don’t ordinarily condone things like child abuse is a statement of fact, nothing more. I have no reason to praise or defame your church – I explained that to your one of your comrades earlier. Do you know what truth and objectivity is? If I said a particular highway robber has a policy of not attacking pregnant women, am I saying he is a good person or just stating a fact? If a notorious street brawler rescues a child from a burning house, should we ignore it because he is ordinarily not a nice person?

But truth and objectivity are things you are clearly incapable of comprehending, hence your belief that everyone must spout his affiliation or ideology and defend it at the expense of truth. That is why you would interpret my statement of fact concerning the Catholic Church’s decent act of owning up for its misdeeds as saying that they are necessarily decent. You remind me of a friend who was accused of being “stingy” for “mising” paper even after she had explained that she was only concerned about the trees. Her accuser, like you, lacked higher thinking and simply had no concept of environmental sustainability. Yeah, another story for you to attack and bend out of shape.

BARRISTERS: Is 'barristers' a jw? not yet, but nothing will stop him from joining as he had already allowed his children and wife to join.untill he fully join, he is very free to kick asses of these unholly trio who got nothing to offer humans!

@Nimshi(aetheist Nimshi) im waiting for you to come out with facts!at least you have admitted the unholy union of trinity discussed below; i cant wait to expose your hidden motives and the unholiness between the trio of you guys is noteworthy, ola+Myjoe+Nimshi=satan(the devil,the deceiver.rev 12:9) the surprise here is that Ola of all peolpe who claimed to believe in God,trade his respect for God allowing Nimshi to use letter 'g' god as in smaller god for him own respected God,thats noteworthy,a shame? more than that. one would want to know why ola will allow that, because his religion catholic have failed and was pained the way jws exposed them!
Desperately, he(1) needs to form an alliance with atheist Nimshi(3) and sadistMyjoe(2)(no apologies for that) to attack jws, but jws still keep their head higher than all! how many religion can defend their religion like the jws i ask? as our discussion goes on i gain more insight into the trio's activities and will not hesitate to apply the latest discoveries!

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MyJoe: I see you don’t have the common sense or maturity to leave the other thread to continue with its relative sanity but would import it here. You have never shown any maturity, anyway – boasting that “I knocked off OLAADEGBU on Trinity” and so on. And so you will have to bring the marriage story here to, hopefully, tar me. I don’t need to deny your misrepresentations. I will post the link to the discussion for anyone to read the thread and make up their minds. Here is it.

It is not the first time your blind rage is leading you to tell direct lies in this thread, so I should not bother asking you where I indicated interest in pursuing a discussion and then “faded in oblivion” from the “Bible discussion.” You are yet to substantiate your claim that I was shy to disclose anything about my religious views after I challenged you to. It doesn’t matter to me what you think of me on an anonymous forum. Really, it doesn’t matter. Outside of here, I doubt it would. Yes, it’s an anonymous forum. While my core beliefs are known to those who have cared to read or know, I will leave those who have elected to sweat over the matter and break their beaks crooning about it to keep at it. We now know your religious affiliation, your sexual orientation and your profession, and that you are married and have kids who are well behaved. In your opinion, I have not declared any of these. Maybe when you get to number 10, by which time you would have revealed your name, family tree and blood group, we will know you are serious. The way your anger is currently out of control, I guess anything should be expected from you.

The story of the only Witness paedo case I have personally witnessed was not told for you (the one your blind rage has driven you to say I was likely living with the person and quickly added that I had “not denied” something that had not been alleged, all after previously saying it was a made up story). I specifically told it to show that when cases of paedophilia are clearly established, the church takes action. It was not meant to praise the church as you have hastily or deviously concluded. It takes nothing away from the two issues of disclosure and the two-witness rule.

I paid keen attention reading the portion where you talked about your “private investigation”. You went talking about “privileges” which no one has said anything about. I was sincerely hoping to read from you that the church now makes disclosures to all the PARENTS in any parish (called congregation) where there is someone with a history of paedophilia so I would clap for them for finally having the courage to change the policy and do the right thing. I just read the Wiki article on the matter, the one you have been lifting portions of and giving your large print treatment, and I think good progress has been made since I last read up on this matter. I like the bit that the offender can’t go out preaching in the house to house without being chaperoned – for what that is worth. But the issue of disclosure remains – your clever employment of the empty phrase “would be declared to appropriate people necessary” does not blind anyone.

You know of a case where elders called the police themselves after offenders refused to make a report? Share it. I have read stories where elders clearly manipulated victims into keeping things hushed up. That sounds like the Nigerian case of the child that got missing at an expressway church (not JW). Fairly common behaviour among religious folk, I guess. While such parents and guardians should be blamed for letting themselves fall for it and while most of the victim stories I have reviewed are mostly a failure of parenting in my opinion, a church’s policy can go a long way in improving things or making them bad.

It’s a shame you didn’t reveal any policy of disclosure to parents. The current policy is that parents are not informed there is a paedophile in their midst, while the paedo himself is asked to place certain limits on himself. Read your Wiki article again. Then read some more. This exchange is fruitless, and you are better left to wallow in your rage and exult in your fool’s paradise. In your imagination and according to your church’s doctrine, you are more moral than me because you are a Witness. Stale gist. I expect you to read this post, ignore facts, and come back with conjectures and invectives. I believe those reading us read further and get the facts beyond your excessive efforts to muddy the issue. I have already exposed your hypocrisy in manipulating facts and dragging the RC church, the JW’s favourite object of pillory, into a thread about the JW.

MyJoe:
Thank you. It is not usually proper to descend and join the likes of Barristers. But I think it was necessary to call him out earlier on his shocking manipulation of facts.


Ok, you have shown that you have crase and I see you are determined to sustain a campaign of lies against me. Obviously, you don't know what you are doing to your reputation in this section. But if you still have hopes of being taken seriously, please demonstrate (1) that I am angry (2) that I ever said anything about converting or "de-converting" you or any other person on this forum. For anyone reading, I have never entertained the notion of converting or "de-converting" Barristers, any member of the JW, or any member of any religion or faith group and I have never expressed such around here. But since Barristers claims I wrote something in a thread, he should be able to find the thread and the post and reclaim some credibility.

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BARRISTERS: @Myjoe

sho! good boy, im enjoying your write-up now,at least you are coming out of your shell more real now, it allows me to have full knowledge of who you are.

My problem with you here is that you were so sure that the church had paid out millions of dollars! see a confirmative sentence you used below;



only to come out with a tag less than a million below (788,000D) twisting what you earlier said that they have paid out millions by using the word 'believed to run into millions''why cant you use the word the way it sounds later but you choose to exegerate,figure below is less than a million sir,

was watchtower indicted in this particular matter? do they admit? was an elder involved? was there duplication of same case in that suit?
my own reseach up there was that of catholic priests,
Also, it was mentioned that undisclosed amount, which shows that it does not surport your claim of paying millions, 788,000D,is less! watchtower never paid millions and that is a fact!!! you said i ommited it, but could not fix 'undisclosed' you saw there after your seach!!!you see your life?

now that you have denied this below, go to page 5 of the other tread! see where you said it again!




so are you ready now! because there is more i ve got to engage you and the trio with. confirm first!

Nimshi: BARRISTERS,

you're a joke.

Who cares if you're a JW or not?

You're an embarrassment to the human species.

But you may have a childlike sense of humour, eh; I don't know of Ola & MyJoe, but I'm trilled to be part of that Trinity ;-)

But you, you have your head firmly implanted in your rectum: your front end and rear are a duality unto yourself; congratulations (I must not go wash my fingers after typing that). . .

I have noticed MyJoe - whom I have fiercely disagreed with on this thread - is a very patient human; and even MyJoe says you're irredeemable, it's time to wipe the floor with you.

When your elders find you're having these conversations on the Internet, you'll be hurled into the backroom and thoroughly chastised, after which you will 'repent' in ashes and shame. Really, do you think you're free? You're not. but that's your choice; the problem is that you mislead people. And you have rather poor reasoning skills.

And, your manner of cut/paste with others' words tell you've learned very well from your WT masters.

Well done. Your masters will reward you ;-)

.

BARRISTERS: Is 'barristers' a jw? not yet, but nothing will stop him from joining as he had already allowed his children and wife to join.untill he fully join, he is very free to kick asses of these unholly trio who got nothing to offer humans!

@Nimshi(aetheist Nimshi) im waiting for you to come out with facts!at least you have admitted the unholy union of trinity discussed below; i cant wait to expose your hidden motives and the unholiness between the trio of you guys is noteworthy, ola+Myjoe+Nimshi=satan(the devil,the deceiver.rev 12:9) the surprise here is that Ola of all peolpe who claimed to believe in God,trade his respect for God allowing Nimshi to use letter 'g' god as in smaller god for him own respected God,thats noteworthy,a shame? more than that. one would want to know why ola will allow that, because his religion catholic have failed and was pained the way jws exposed them!
Desperately, he(1) needs to form an alliance with atheist Nimshi(3) and sadistMyjoe(2)(no apologies for that) to attack jws, but jws still keep their head higher than all! how many religion can defend their religion like the jws i ask? as our discussion goes on i gain more insight into the trio's activities and will not hesitate to apply the latest discoveries!

Ok, you have shown that you have crase and I see you are determined to sustain a campaign of lies against me. Obviously, you don't know what you are doing to your reputation in this section. But if you still have hopes of being taken seriously, please demonstrate (1) that I am angry (2) that I ever said anything about converting or "de-converting" you or any other person on this forum. [size=14pt]For anyone reading, I have never entertained the notion of converting or "de-converting" Barristers, any member of the JW, or any member of any religion or faith group and I have never expressed such around here. But since Barristers claims I wrote something in a thread, he should be able to find the thread and the post and reclaim some credibility.[/size]

- I laugh a laugh of derision.

- Why're you in a fir because I use the lowercase for your favourite deity? Ok, no worries, I'll start using the uppercase. I don't think your god/God cares though. If he's that petty, then he's got to be quite small.

- You "allowed" your wife to join JWs? So she couldn't have joined the religion without your permission, eh? You're presenting yourself as one fo the problems. It's no problem wiping the floor with men like you.

- If your wife is already a JW, you'd better hurry to join; they'll need you; you're already a worthy drone. Or soon,she won't be allowed to say 'Amen' when you pray if you don't join in. As noted, you're already an active JW drone.

- And, this your time-wasting activity of gaining more insight into the activities of three posters is funny, really. I laugh again. You must have a lot of time on your hands; that's not a problem; but a grown man as yourself, with children and a wife, applying discoveries on an Internet board? Lol. Well done.

- As for the Catholics: they've proved to be better than you JWs in their response to paedophilia; you JWs need to learn something from the Catholic church.

- And, since you've inserted H into the conversation: you JWs did support Hitler when your leaders thougth it would offer an advantage. That's a documented fact: documented from your Watchtower literature. Any more?

Maximus85:
Mr. We are not saying we are the most righteous. But come to think of it, Jesus, John, Paul and other men of God in the days of old were also accused of misleading people. The world is under the influence of the wicked one (satan) so we can't expect people to want to hear the truth about satan and his present system of things. And again, when you are pressed don't insult people, because we are trained to teach with self control and deep reapect. Jesus christ and his disciples preached the good news of God's kingdom from house to house, door to door, and in the whole world we the JW seems to be the ones taking this assignment primary. Remember the bible said that the road to salvation is very tiny but the path to destruction is very large and wide. Give it a thought. Why are we the JWs so different? Do you know that Jesus has more than 12 disciples when he was on earth? There were 70 other disciples. We take our time to study the Bible before going out to preach. Satan is not resting, he is doing his best to make sure that our preaching assignment is not succcessful. Little wonder why some people will not listen.
Even among us the JWs, we have some people that has allowed satan to use them and if you know this much about JWs and you don't know how we dis fellowship wrong doers, then I find it hard to acknowledge your un-bias stand in this issue.
All you are portraying is pure hatred for the JWs. Well....we don't mind, in fact we are expecting more. None of Gods kingdom preacher were treated well. Jesus was killed, stephen was stoned to death, John the baptizer was beheaded,some were imprisoned, some were even burnt alive. We are prepared for all these. You may continue, Paul was Saul, he hated christians until he encountered the truth. God help us all. Take it.... We are worshiping God and not satan.

Maximus85:
Mr. We are not saying we are the most righteous. But come to think of it, Jesus, John, Paul and other men of God in the days of old were also accused of misleading people. The world is under the influence of the wicked one (satan) so we can't expect people to want to hear the truth about satan and his present system of things. And again, when you are pressed don't insult people, because we are trained to teach with self control and deep reapect. Jesus christ and his disciples preached the good news of God's kingdom from house to house, door to door, and in the whole world we the JW seems to be the ones taking this assignment primary. Remember the bible said that the road to salvation is very tiny but the path to destruction is very large and wide. Give it a thought. Why are we the JWs so different? Do you know that Jesus has more than 12 disciples when he was on earth? There were 70 other disciples. We take our time to study the Bible before going out to preach. Satan is not resting, he is doing his best to make sure that our preaching assignment is not succcessful. Little wonder why some people will not listen.
Even among us the JWs, we have some people that has allowed satan to use them and if you know this much about JWs and you don't know how we dis fellowship wrong doers, then I find it hard to acknowledge your un-bias stand in this issue.
All you are portraying is pure hatred for the JWs. Well....we don't mind, in fact we are expecting more. None of Gods kingdom preacher were treated well. Jesus was killed, stephen was stoned to death, John the baptizer was beheaded,some were imprisoned, some were even burnt alive. We are prepared for all these. You may continue, Paul was Saul, he hated christians until he encountered the truth. God help us all. Take it.... We are worshiping God and not satan.

Nimshi:
And you have rather poor reasoning skills.

why are you angry, i want you to de-convert me and my co-travellers!!!thats what you said on the other tread, so for your information, we have a long way to go here, you will continue to react and react to my findings and declarations on the forum,because i want you to de-convert me!!!are you ready?

For anyone reading, I have never entertained the notion of converting or "de-converting" Barristers, any member of the JW, or any member of any religion or faith group and I have never expressed such around here. But since Barristers claims I wrote something in a thread, he should be able to find the thread and the post and reclaim some credibility.[b]

now that you have denied this below, go to page 5 of the other tread! see where you said it again!:

MyJoe: What I meant should have been clear to any objective minded person of average intelligence. And I hope you tone down your attacks after this post. Speculate all you like about imaginary motives I have to denigrate your wonderful religion and de-convert you and your co-travellers, but if you come back at me in that manner I will assume a change of tone is in order. Have a nice day.

BARRISTERS:
now to reclaim my credibility(not from myjoe)but from onlookers, lets go on a journey here, on this link, page 5, post 22 (count from up towards bottom, around the middle myjoe's post with time 5:16. 3rd Aug.)https://www.nairaland.com/984261/what-does-jehovah-witness-watchtower/5

when you come back from the journey, can you pronounce a liar with a loud voiceeeeee?

BARRISTERS: @Myjoe

sho! good boy, im enjoying your write-up now,at least you are coming out of your shell more real now, it allows me to have full knowledge of who you are.

My problem with you here is that you were so sure that the church had paid out millions of dollars! see a confirmative sentence you used below;


only to come out with a tag less than a million below (788,000D) twisting what you earlier said that they have paid out millions by using the word 'believed to run into millions''why cant you use the word the way it sounds later but you choose to exegerate,figure below is less than a million sir,

was watchtower indicted in this particular matter? do they admit? was an elder involved? was there duplication of same case in that suit?
my own reseach up there was that of catholic priests,
Also, it was mentioned that undisclosed amount, which shows that it does not surport your claim of paying millions, 788,000D,is less! watchtower never paid millions and that is a fact!!! you said i ommited it, but could not fix 'undisclosed' you saw there after your seach!!!you see your life?

now that you have denied this below, go to page 5 of the other tread! see where you said it again!

so are you ready now! because there is more i ve got to engage you and the trio with. confirm first!

Nimshi:


- I laugh a laugh of derision.

- Why're you in a fir because I use the lowercase for your favourite deity? Ok, no worries, I'll start using the uppercase. I don't think your god/God cares though. If he's that petty, then he's got to be quite small.

- You "allowed" your wife to join JWs? So she couldn't have joined the religion without your permission, eh? You're presenting yourself as one fo the problems. It's no problem wiping the floor with men like you.

- If your wife is already a JW, you'd better hurry to join; they'll need you; you're already a worthy drone. Or soon,she won't be allowed to say 'Amen' when you pray if you don't join in. As noted, you're already an active JW drone.

- And, this your time-wasting activity of gaining more insight into the activities of three posters is funny, really. I laugh again. You must have a lot of time on your hands; that's not a problem; but a grown man as yourself, with children and a wife, applying discoveries on an Internet board? Lol. Well done.

- As for the Catholics: they've proved to be better than you JWs in their response to paedophilia; you JWs need to learn something from the Catholic church.

- And, since you've inserted H into the conversation: you JWs did support Hitler when your leaders thougth it would offer an advantage. That's a documented fact: documented from your Watchtower literature. Any more?

.

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MyJoe: Watchtower never admits anything. Poor Maximum85 thought they do about their predictions and got himself into trouble with Mr truthislight who has now accused him of misrepresentation. They have paid out millions yet they never admitted anything.

BARRISTERS: it will be recalled that after the terror attack to the twin towers in 2001, everything changed, including therequirements for all NGO's the 2002 requrement came with political affiliatins, at that point, jws returned the UN LIBRARY TAG, and resigned using their library facilities. no yearly payments or anything, only gaining entrance to the facilitiy, period!