Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (June 14, 1928[1] – October 9, 1967), commonly known as Che Guevara, El Che or just Che was an Argentina-born Marxist revolutionary, political figure, and leader of Cuban and internationalist guerrillas.

As a young man studying medicine, Guevara travelled rough throughout South America, bringing him into direct contact with the impoverished conditions in which many people lived. His experiences and observations during these trips led him to the conclusion that the region's socio-economic inequalities could only be remedied by socialism through revolution, prompting him to intensify his study of Marxism and travel to Guatemala to learn about the reforms being implemented there by President Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán.

While in Mexico in 1956, Guevara joined Fidel Castro's revolutionary 26th of July Movement, which seized power from the regime of the dictator[2] General Fulgencio Batista in Cuba in 1959. In the months after the success of the revolution, Guevara was assigned the role of "supreme prosecutor", overseeing the public show trials and executions of hundreds of military and civilian leaders associated with the previous regime.[3][4] After serving in various important posts in the new government and writing a number of articles and books on the theory and practice of guerrilla warfare, Guevara left Cuba in 1965 with the intention of fomenting revolutions first in Congo-Kinshasa, and then in Bolivia, where he was captured in a military operation supported by the CIA and the US. Army Special Forces.[5] Guevara was summarily executed by the Bolivian Army in the town of La Higuera near Vallegrande on October 9, 1967.[6][7]

After his death, Guevara became an icon of socialist revolutionary movements and a cultural icon worldwide. An Alberto Korda photo of him has received wide distribution and modification, appearing on t-shirts, protest banners, and in many other formats. The Maryland Institute College of Art called this picture "the most famous photograph in the world and a symbol of the 20th century


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara

Do anyone knows why this guy that stood and fought for the poor was killed? He was against imperialist and AMERICAN exploitation in South America.

He talks about how American government support exploitation of the poor by big companies by paying small wages and was later killed by the CIA.

Same reason they tried to assassinate Fidel Castro. Same reason they participated in the murder of Patrice Lumumba. The list is long.

Reasons:

1. Covert control of world trade and resources
2. Inordinate fear of Communism
3. Suppression of Socialism
4. Capitalist expansionism into the developing nations
5. Sustaining a social hierarchy of class and race

Same reason they tried to assassinate Fidel Castro. Same reason they participated in the murder of Patrice Lumumba. The list is long.

could it also be same reason they killed?:

Abiola
Mrs Bhuto

Interesting. Can we say this is why most Latin nations and some European countries despise USA policies?

Can they be classified as terrorist with all this policies as well?

The Che Guevara memes is one of the most nauseating in today's world.To paint this cold blooded killer as some sort of Latin American version of Ghandi or the Dalai Lama smacks of historical illiteracy.

Go tell the families of the men who he personally excecuted while boasting of it.He was nothing but a brutal Stalinist goon crassly romanticised in the West .

Lack of research and a stubborn refusal to apply logic remains the bane of many Nigerians even as we enter a new year.

texazzpete:

Lack of research and a stubborn refusal to apply logic remains the bane of many Nigerians even as we enter a new year.

Right on!!!

@I-man Please do your research before you contribute to this topic. The people he Killed?

Mamajama:

@I-man Please do your research before you contribute to this topic. The people he Killed?

Che himself proudly wrote and talked about people he shot.Are you saying he was making that up?

I do not know if I can write sufficiently about the man Che Guevara. He was just a little short of being a god.

The Americans had to murder him and a couple of others due to sheer ignorance. They simply did not know the meaning of Communism and Socialism. During the late 1940's to early 1970's, some Americans still believed that communists had claws and fangs. That's why they attacked Vietnam and had the Cold War with Russia. Now that that have become better informed and educated, even they cannot explain why they did a lot of these things including assassinating their own President on suspicion of fraternising with communists.

Today even the USA has begun to implement anti-capitalist economic policies or anti-trust laws as they call them, like those that prevent Microsoft from being all that it can be, taking taxes from the rich to provide welfare for the poor, forcing companies to share their trade secrets. At the end when you look at it, without communism, without socialism, the world is doomed.

So I guess all these killings and wars the USA took out on the world throughout the 21st century, it was out of ignorance. That's why they killed Che Guevara, that's why they killed Patrice Lumumba and handed a newly independed democratic country to their handpicked dictator. Ignorance!

I do not know if I can write sufficiently about the man Che Guevara. He was just a little short of being a god.

The Americans had to murder him and a couple of others due to sheer ignorance. They simply did not know the meaning of Communism and Socialism. During the late 1940's to early 1970's, some Americans still believed that communists had claws and fangs. That's why they attacked Vietnam and had the Cold War with Russia. Now that that have become better informed and educated, even they cannot explain why they did a lot of these things including assassinating their own President on suspicion of fraternising with communists.

Today even the USA has begun to implement anti-capitalist economic policies or anti-trust laws as they call them, like those that prevent Microsoft from being all that it can be, taking taxes from the rich to provide welfare for the poor, forcing companies to share their trade secrets. At the end when you look at it, without communism, without socialism, the world is doomed.

So I guess all these killings and wars the USA took out on the world throughout the 21st century, it was out of ignorance. That's why they killed Che Guevara, that's why they killed Patrice Lumumba and handed a newly independed democratic country to their handpicked dictator. Ignorance!

I do not condone political killing r killing in any fashion, but did you read enough to find out what kind of people he claimed he killed?

In Politics especially in the guerilla war, its either kill or be killed

My brother, it is guerilla warfare of course unless you see actual gorillas killing other gorillas at the warfront are you allowed to call it a gorilla war.

@mamajama
paragraph 3 of your article states that che guevara oversaw the executions of hundreds of millitary and civillian prisoners accused of being part of the deposed governments, yet you're asking what people he killed?

It pays to read your own articles.

Mamajama:

I do not condone political killing r killing in any fashion, but did you read enough to find out what kind of people he claimed he killed?

In Politics especially in the guerilla war, its either kill or be killed

He shot local peasants because he suspected them of disloyalty.Even little boys were subjected to mock executions,"We blindfolded them and subjected them to the anguish of a simulated firing squad."

Like any personality cult,the facts of Che's life have little correlation to the perception of Che.The man,in his own writings,chronicled and glorified some of the killings he conducted.

the man CHE is seen as a big hero right here in latin america.
many people equates him with god.
they worship and do a lot of sacrifices in his name.

texazzpete:

@mamajama
paragraph 3 of your article states that che guevara oversaw the executions of hundreds of millitary and civillian prisoners accused of being part of the deposed governments, yet you're asking what people he killed?

It pays to read your own articles.

That was culled from Wikipedia.If he had bothered to read it,he will see things like this:

"During the guerrilla campaign, Guevara was also feared for his ruthlessness, and was responsible for the execution of a number of men accused of being informers, deserters or spies. "

and this:


"José Vilasuso, an attorney who worked under Guevara at La Cabaña preparing indictments, said that these were lawless proceedings where "the facts were judged without any consideration to general juridical principles" and the findings were pre-determined by Guevara.[32][33] It is estimated that between 156[34] and 550[35] people were executed on Guevara's extra-judicial orders during this time."

There are many more accounts of executions told by Che himself.He was definitely no democrat and hardly the saintly figure people now paint him.

you know why i discredited that story? the most powerful country like USA. if they are out to get or nail you. they will publicise stories like that to make you look as evil as ever.

I reserve my comment. and let the Latin nations be the judge.

@richy
I couldn't agree with you more. Che was killed for all those very reasons you mentioned. They have tried for years to wipe out my man Fidel, but so far he has proven untouchable. I remembered growing up in the islands and hating Fidel, thanks to the poison we were fed by the mighty USA. It wasn't untl in 1998 when I went to Cuba to study that I was really enlightened on the USA-Cuba saga. Three years among the Cuba people and hearing their side of the story has really given me a new leash on what I was originally fed.

Islander:

@richy
I couldn't agree with you more. Che was killed for all those very reasons you mentioned. They have tried for years to wipe out my man Fidel, but so far he has proven untouchable. I remembered growing up in the islands and hating Fidel, thanks to the poison we were fed by the mighty USA. It wasn't untl in 1998 when I went to Cuba to study that I was really enlightened on the USA-Cuba saga. Three years among the Cuba people and hearing their side of the story has really given me a new leash on what I was originally fed.

You spent 3 years in Cuba? Or did you happen to visit Cuba for a 3 year period ?

Fidel has been in power since 1959.Surely,if the Cuban people loved him,he would have no problem putting his,and his party's popularity,to a vote by organising regular elections.

Why do Cubans keep risking their lives to emigrate to the US when they have a "paradise" back home and things are "hunky dory"?

Going back to Che,thank God nobody has argued that he was a democrat.Nor has anybody actually proferred any actual example of how he changed the lives of people for the better .What did he actually achieve?

It is very easy for people to spit on a system,free market democracies,that affords them the freedom and the opportunity to criticize their host Govt and exploit their talents to the fullest .Something,in which Che's version of the Animal Farm,would have been impossible.Hey,there is a good reason we all live or emigrate to the West as opposed to the Communist bloc.Action speaks louder than words

I have met and heard from enough people from the Communist bloc of Eastern Europe to appreciate the horrors of communism.I guess 40 million dead bodies from Stalin and Mao's policies haven't changed minds.

Going back to Che,thank God nobody has argued that he was a democrat.

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and your US is democrat?

I wonder why they dont have 'communist party'

I wonder why after 500yrs no BLACKMAN has ever become President

I wonder why after 500yrs no WOMAN has ever become President even Pakistan better them.

please spare us.

babasin:

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and your US is democrat?

I wonder why they don't have 'communist party'

I wonder why after 500yrs no BLACKMAN has ever become President

I wonder why after 500yrs no WOMAN has ever become President even Pakistan better them.
please spare us.

The reason is cause the people themselves have not had it in them to vote a woman or black man in to office. What has that got to do with this thread?

I-man:

You spent 3 years in Cuba? Or did you happen to visit Cuba for a 3 year period ? Fidel has been in power since 1959.Surely,if the Cuban people loved him,he would have no problem putting his,and his party's popularity,to a vote by organising regular elections.

Why do Cubans keep risking their lives to emigrate to the US when they have a "paradise" back home and things are "hunky dory"?

Going back to Che,thank God nobody has argued that he was a democrat.Nor has anybody actually proferred any actual example of how he changed the lives of people for the better .What did he actually achieve?

It is very easy for people to spit on a system,free market democracies,that affords them the freedom and the opportunity to criticize their host Govt and exploit their talents to the fullest .Something,in which Che's version of the Animal Farm,would have been impossible.Hey,there is a good reason we all live or emigrate to the West as opposed to the Communist bloc.Action speaks louder than words

I have met and heard from enough people from the Communist bloc of Eastern Europe to appreciate the horrors of communism.I guess 40 million dead bodies from Stalin and Mao's policies haven't changed minds.

FYI, I know the difference between the two. And yes I lived in Cuba for three freaking years while studying at Universidad de Matanzas and San Jose.  It is all ok for "us" to stay on the outside and look in then pass judgement.

Yes Cubans are risking their lives to leave, and who wouldnt?, Afterall, the "God" (USA) has an embargo, which by the way only harms the poor Cuban people.  Given the bleak economic status there, many flee NOT so much for hatred of Fidel, but rather as a means of survival.  In any country, communist or democratic, socialist , whatever, there will always be people who oppose that system. Does that mean the system is not appreciated?

I just hate when people, instead of being realistic, jumps on the freaking bandwagon and glorifies anything USA does. Yes! the USA has afforded many immigrants the opportunity to achieve much more than they would have otherwise done in their native countries. That does not, however, means we should all turn "ass-lickers" and swallow whatever principles were brought up on,

The reason is cause the people themselves have not had it in them to vote a woman or black man in to office

indeed after 500yrs of DEMOCRAZY.


ok. We will do same in naija.

IGBO & WOMEN should wait for another 500yrs to be PRESIDENT of NIGERIA

Islander:

FYI, I know the difference between the two. And yes I lived in Cuba for three freaking years while studying at Universidad de Matanzas and San Jose.  It is all ok for "us" to stay on the outside and look in then pass judgement.

Yes Cubans are risking their lives to leave, and who wouldnt?, Afterall, the "God" (USA) has an embargo, which by the way only harms the poor Cuban people.  Given the bleak economic status there, many flee NOT so much for hatred of Fidel, but rather as a means of survival.  In any country, communist or democratic, socialist , whatever, there will always be people who oppose that system. Does that mean the system is not appreciated?

I just hate when people, instead of being realistic, jumps on the freaking bandwagon and glorifies anything USA does. Yes! the USA has afforded many immigrants the opportunity to achieve much more than they would have otherwise done in their native countries. That does not, however, means we should all turn "ass-lickers" and swallow whatever principles were brought up on,

Sure there are persons from cuba who will say they do not have a problem with the system there. By the way, I do have cuban friends and have been in some discussions with them to understand what their problem with the system is. I do not think that being realistic about the fact that many of the cubans who migrated to the USA do so cause they have a better chance in the USA means one is an a** licker. I would say you look at this 360 to understand what many of these people see from the outside.

A system, whichever one you choose, is supposed to be in place to help provide the people with better quality of living at most any cost. What does it benefit a people if they continue on a path that is fraught with misery and danger for the very people the system is supposed to protect.  Look away from Cuban-USA relationship for a second and look at your own dear Nigeria. The reason why we decided to move to democracy was cause we realized that millitary rule was not for us. I am sure there are many in the country who would love to see the days of Babangida and Abacha back, for their own reasons but the fact remains that the majority opposed millitary rule and so we find ourselves where we are today. We made a change, why?? So the people can have a better chance at a better life. Now apply the same reasoning to systems around the world that are not to the benefit of the people but for those ruling the people and their egos and I hope you see why the cubans who escape their country at all cost, even risking death to leave, are speaking out against the system, regardless of the reason they give for leaving??

Now about the embargo you speak of, I seriously think you should educate yourself on the current state of that with Cuba. Many people do not know this but american companies have been doing business with cuba for some years now. http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/funfacts/embargo.htm  and there are a couple of bills in the works to increase the number in years to come. Already many countries around the world have already been doing business with cuba and I believe that would include canada. Please look this information up to understand the REAL state of things down there.

babasin:

indeed after 500yrs of DEMOCRAZY.


ok. We will do same in naija.

IGBO & WOMEN should wait for another 500yrs to be PRESIDENT of NIGERIA

Igbo and women should wait?? If the people are not ready for an Igbo or a female president who then are you to deny them their right to not want what they do not want Are you going to then start arguing that it is your right to have an igbo or a woman in office because it is what you want even though it is not what the people want ?? Please grow up!! Arguing like a child does not a point make. If the people want a woman as president, who is to say NO to them?? Allow the people their choice. It is the rule in a democracy. Let the people have what they want simple!! If the people do not want a woman as president, will your saying NO to them mean you are being democratic?? Look up the meaning of the word please.

Let the people have what they want simple!!

indeed just like your US allowed the Palestine to have  'HAMAS' as their democratically elected leader.
or
just like they allow Congo people to enjoy Patrice Lumumba their elected leader

Among them was a CIA-sponsored attempt to poison him, which may have come on orders from US. president Dwight Eisenhower.[9] CIA chemist Sidney Gottlieb was a key person in this by devising a poison resembling toothpaste.[10][11][12][13] However, the plan is said to have failed because the local CIA Station Chief, Larry Devlin, had a conscience issue and did not go forward

Kobojunkie:

Sure there are persons from cuba who will say they do not have a problem with the system there. By the way, I do have cuban friends and have been in some discussions with them to understand what their problem with the system is. I do not think that being realistic about the fact that many of the cubans who migrated to the USA do so cause they have a bette chance in the USA means one is[b] an a** licker. I would say you look at this 360 to understand what many of these people see from the outside. [/b]
A system, whatever it is, is supposed to be in place to help provide the people with a better quality of living at most any cost. What does it benefit a people if they continue on a path that has fraught with misery and danger for the very people the system is supposed to protect.  Look away from Cuban-USA relationship for a second and look at your own dear Nigeria. The reason why we decided to move to democracy was cause we realized that millitary rule was not for us. I am sure there are many in the country who would love to see the days of Babangida and Abacha back, for their own reasons but the fact remains that the majority opposed millitary rule and so we find ourselves where we are today. We made a change, why?? So the people can have a better chance at a better life. Now apply the same reasoning to systems around the world that are not to the benefit of the people but for those ruling the people and their egos and I hope you see why the cubans who escape their country at all cost, even risking death to leave, are speaking out against the system, regardless of whatever reason they gave for leaving??


Now about the embargo you speak of, I seriously think you should educate yourself on the current state of that with Cuba. Many people do not know this but american companies have been doing business with cuba for some years now. http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/funfacts/embargo.htm  and there are a couple of bills in the works to increase the number in years to come. Already many countries around the world have already been doing business with cuba and I believe that would include canada. Please look this information up to understand the REAL state of things down there.

1.  My mention of asslickers was aimed at immigrants who have migrated to the west and now refuse to admit anything the west even if it is blatantly wrong.

2. I am not Nigerian.

3. Unlike many band wagon riders on this forum, I do my own research.  pul, ease, 90% of imports to Cuba are from Russia, China and Canada.  Yes recently the USA has allowed a products in, but it is nothing to go kolomental about.  

PS> Reading something in the newspaper, viewing it on TV and freaking living it are so different, As we say in the islands "tek yo 2 eyes an sleep"

Let the people have what they want simple!!

indeed just like your US allowed the Palestine to have 'HAMAS' as their democratically elected leader.
or
just like they allow Congo people to enjoy Patrice Lumumba their elected leader

Among them was a CIA-sponsored attempt to poison him, which may have come on orders from US. president Dwight Eisenhower.[9] CIA chemist Sidney Gottlieb was a key person in this by devising a poison resembling toothpaste.[10][11][12][13] However, the plan is said to have failed because the local CIA Station Chief, Larry Devlin, had a conscience issue and did not go forward

Islander:

FYI, I know the difference between the two. And yes I lived in Cuba for three freaking years while studying at Universidad de Matanzas and San Jose. It is all ok for "us" to stay on the outside and look in then pass judgement.

Stop shreaking, no one cares about your educational history.

Islander:

Yes Cubans are risking their lives to leave, and who wouldnt?, Afterall, the "God" (USA) has an embargo, which by the way only harms the poor Cuban people. Given the bleak economic status there, many flee NOT so much for hatred of Fidel, but rather as a means of survival. In any country, communist or democratic, socialist , whatever, there will always be people who oppose that system. Does that mean the system is not appreciated?

Isnt is funny how people hail Fidel Castro's policies, insult the Americans and in the same breath admit that the economic status in Cuba is bleak. Perhaps this is the fault of the US embargo too.

To blame the Cuban economic situation on a US embargo is simply hogwash . . . if the Cubans hated Americans so much why are they not risking life and limb to emigrate to Mexico instead.

Islander:

I just hate when people, instead of being realistic, jumps on the freaking bandwagon and glorifies anything USA does. Yes! the USA has afforded many immigrants the opportunity to achieve much more than they would have otherwise done in their native countries. That does not, however, means we should all turn "ass-lickers" and swallow whatever principles were brought up on,

Simple: it is the height of hypocrisy to claim to dislike US policy and then continue to live there. If Castro's Cuba is a paradise why have you not packed your bags and gone back there?

Islander:

FYI, I know the difference between the two. And yes I lived in Cuba for three freaking years while studying at Universidad de Matanzas and San Jose.

I guess 3 years of studying in a Cuban University,as part of some Cuban Govt programme, makes one the definitive expert on the views of 12 million Cubans.Case closed then.

Yes Cubans are risking their lives to leave, and who wouldnt?, Afterall, the "God" (USA) has an embargo, which by the way only harms the poor Cuban people. Given the bleak economic status there, many flee NOT so much for hatred of Fidel, but rather as a means of survival. In any country, communist or democratic, socialist , whatever, there will always be people who oppose that system. Does that mean the system is not appreciated?

This is absolutely stunning. Isn't the US perfectly entitled to determine who it can have have economic relations with? If the US decides not to trade with Cuba,why should any one blame the US for Cuba's current problems? If I decide not to trade with a person,the person has no business attacking me for his poverty.

This misses a larger issue.How many nations run on a communist economic model were successful? None,even Cuba's benefactor,Soviet Union,collapsed.Cuba's problem lies with its adoption of a model proven to be a failure throughout the world.I know economic illiterates will point to China but if you think China's economic model is still communist,you need enlightenment!

I just hate when people, instead of being realistic, jumps on the freaking bandwagon and glorifies anything USA does. Yes! the USA has afforded many immigrants the opportunity to achieve much more than they would have otherwise done in their native countries. That does not, however, means we should all turn "ass-lickers" and swallow whatever principles were brought up on,

Alternatively,we can lick the asses of Commies Its better to lick the ass of a successful system than to lick one of a known failure.

The irony is that most of the reports you get in the West about Cuba are actually sympathetic to Castro.

The simple issue is-between a communist dictator who has held on to power since 1959 and can't provide his people a world class standard of living,on one hand,and a free market democracy which we all flock to,lining up like desperate people applying for a visa,I know which one is much preferable.

We can do all the paeans to Castro we like but nobody,including many Cubans,wants to live in a dictatorship that offers little economic opportunity and even lesser civil liberties protection.