NomadicNaija:
If you are applying for Irish visa you must show proof that you have strong ties to your country of origin and you have not violated any visa conditions to other countries especially UK and U.S. to avoid automatic refusal. And if you have been refused Irish visa it is best you avoid appeal at all cost, allow some time before making another application. My 1 cent.

i don’t have any ties to proof at the moment and i have not violated any of my visa conditions (over stay). Also i have never applied for a US or UK visa before. Thank you for your cents they are valuable please add more

Just like dotcomnamename has advised you, I had say you wait for your business registration to be completed, get all your tax paper work and business paper work in place. Operate your business as usual with a business account, give your business a professional look. (Business registered, Business account, Tax registration and payment if applicable, evidences of business transactions).
Give at least 6 months once everything is in place before making an application. No need to rush. The aim is for you to obtain the Visa...just be patient, put all paperwork in place before applying.

NomadicNaija:
Just like dotcomnamename has advised you, I had say you wait for your business registration to be completed, get all your tax paper work and business paper work in place. Operate your business as usual with a business account, give your business a professional look. (Business registered, Business account, Tax registration and payment if applicable, evidences of business transactions).
Give at least 6 months once everything is in place before making an application. No need to rush. The aim is for you to obtain the Visa...just be patient, put all paperwork in place before applying.

Yes i can wait till the business registration is complete, then i will pay taxes and run my business as usual under the business account and also put all evidence of transaction together. I will wait till mid of next year before i apply and before that i would get a land in place so that can cover my tie back here. i will take my time and make everything right thank you very much for your contribution, God bless you, God bless Dotcomnamename, God bless US and God bless Nairaland.

@Jeezybuck. Good you have decided to be patient, while you sort your ties and paperwork. Good Luck.

NomadicNaija:
If you are applying for Irish visa you must show proof that you have strong ties to your country of origin and you have not violated any visa conditions to other countries especially UK and U.S. to avoid automatic refusal. And if you have been refused Irish visa it is best you avoid appeal at all cost, allow some time before making another application. My 1 cent.

There is no harm in appeal. My partner got her first Irish visa through appeal. Recently, a friend and a friend to a friend got their Irish visa through appeal. If you submit exactly the documents they pointed out as the reason for your refusal, they'll still issue you the visa. However, the discretion will still apply.

But in jeezybuck's case, like i said, i'll advise him to be patient and sort out his business registration/proof of profession/income/ties, e.t.c

Amosiye:
@ justaino I think u complicated issues. Cos u including ur own SOA and that of ur sponsor.. Then u went futher to state that ur sponsor will cover ur full cost altru ur stay in ireland. . . . Bros reason the matter nah. This VO uses psychology in handling our applications. So we need to be smart and constructively ready for them.

ok, see now ehn chairman... I've decided to leave the irish visa level despite the fact hv paid N4.5m fees at trinity college Dublin so my student enrollment Advicer applied for foundation to study pharmacy at Liverpool john Moores university (UK) she said they'd have to interview me through Skype... Please o do u have any idea how the interview would be or what it might involve and also even if I get an admission, what are my chances of applying for visa and still be able to resume January

Justaino97:
ok, see now ehn chairman... I've decided to leave the irish visa level despite the fact hv paid N4.5m fees at trinity college Dublin so my student enrollment Advicer applied for foundation to study pharmacy at Liverpool john Moores university (UK) she said they'd have to interview me through Skype... Please o do u have any idea how the interview would be or what it might involve and also even if I get an admission, what are my chances of applying for visa and still be able to resume January

bros pls don't rush and complicate ishs for ur self. . . .is it dat u just want to travel overseas , I can smell a clear fact that u re desperate. . . Hope u know say UK and republic of ireland no be d same. Well mk proper enquiry and get better info from people who re willing to help u. I wish u d best.

Justaino97:
ok, see now ehn chairman... I've decided to leave the irish visa level despite the fact hv paid N4.5m fees at trinity college Dublin so my student enrollment Advicer applied for foundation to study pharmacy at Liverpool john Moores university (UK) she said they'd have to interview me through Skype... Please o do u have any idea how the interview would be or what it might involve and also even if I get an admission, what are my chances of applying for visa and still be able to resume January

Calm down, relax, sit down and coll down yourself, have a breath, read the refusal letter carefully again, read it again and again and try to figure out the embassy reason for refusal. Go ahead with your Irish Student Visa, add more documents if possible. I still believe that the Irish Embassy will still issue you the visa, provided that you make the correction. Going from one embassy to another may cause you confusion, and might even think of something else for the reason you were refused visa by Irish, so go ahead with it, at least you still have chance!

What are the documents you submitted at first?

dotcomnamename:



Calm down, relax, sit down and coll down yourself, have a breath, read the refusal letter carefully again, read it again and again and try to figure out the embassy reason for refusal. Go ahead with your Irish Student Visa, add more documents if possible. I still believe that the Irish Embassy will still issue you the visa, provided that you make the correction. Going from one embassy to another may cause you confusion, and might even think of something else for the reason you were refused visa by Irish, so go ahead with it, at least you still have chance!

What are the documents you submitted at first?

ok thank u boss... I've decided to reapply cos the section starts January 12 2015.... I'll look into the reasons and fix them..... I previously submitted statement of purpose, statement of acc for me and that of my sponsor and his company, his documents for landed properties, offer letter from the school, confirmation of enrollment from the school, visa letter, passport of my sponsor and parents, school results and certificates, my own passport, online visa application form, letter of sponsorship.... I think that's all

Justaino97:
ok thank u boss... I've decided to reapply cos the section starts January 12 2015.... I'll look into the reasons and fix them..... I previously submitted statement of purpose, statement of acc for me and that of my sponsor and his company, his documents for landed properties, offer letter from the school, confirmation of enrollment from the school, visa letter, passport of my sponsor and parents, school results and certificates, my own passport, online visa application form, letter of sponsorship.... I think that's all

What is the name of the school in Ireland?

dotcomnamename:



Calm down, relax, sit down and coll down yourself, have a breath, read the refusal letter carefully again, read it again and again and try to figure out the embassy reason for refusal. Go ahead with your Irish Student Visa, add more documents if possible. I still believe that the Irish Embassy will still issue you the visa, provided that you make the correction. Going from one embassy to another may cause you confusion, and might even think of something else for the reason you were refused visa by Irish, so go ahead with it, at least you still have chance!

What are the documents you submitted at first?

these are the reasons for refusal Justaino97:
please @ boss vicjustice I applied for an irish visa but I was refused with the following reasons

CP:- need to undertake the course in this state not demonstrated or warranted

F:- finances:- evidence provided is deemed insufficient or incomplete. The applicant has provided details that his uncle will cover his full costs. Insufficient evidence of why the sponsor of would pay the applicant rather than his own direct family is not shown. Evidence of relationship to sponsor is also not provided.

ID:- insufficient documentation submitted in support of the application

OB:- obligations to return to home country have not been deemed sufficient

OC:- condition - The potential cost of the trip is high in comparison to the applicants means, and given that no compelling reasons for the trip have been displayed, the visa officer is not satisfied of your intentions to leave the state following your visit.

OC:- observe the conditions of visa - the visa sought is for a specific purpose and duration:- the applicant has not satisfied the visa officer that such conditions would be observed.
SP:- gaps in education or employment not accounted for. No evidence of education or employment since June 2013

Justaino97:
these are the reasons for refusal Justaino97:
please @ boss vicjustice I applied for an irish visa but I was refused with the following reasons

CP:- need to undertake the course in this state not demonstrated or warranted

F:- finances:- evidence provided is deemed insufficient or incomplete. The applicant has provided details that his uncle will cover his full costs. Insufficient evidence of why the sponsor of would pay the applicant rather than his own direct family is not shown. Evidence of relationship to sponsor is also not provided.

ID:- insufficient documentation submitted in support of the application

OB:- obligations to return to home country have not been deemed sufficient

OC:- condition - The potential cost of the trip is high in comparison to the applicants means, and given that no compelling reasons for the trip have been displayed, the visa officer is not satisfied of your intentions to leave the state following your visit.

OC:- observe the conditions of visa - the visa sought is for a specific purpose and duration:- the applicant has not satisfied the visa officer that such conditions would be observed.
SP:- gaps in education or employment not accounted for. No evidence of education or employment since June 2013

I'm only asking you the name of the school so i can help you make research about the school if its a recognised school, since i live here.

If you can't give the name of the school, is your course a degree course? Is the school a Uni or? Is it recognised by the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service?

dotcomnamename:


I'm only asking you the name of the school so i can help you make research about the school if its a recognised school, since i live here.

If you can't give the name of the school, is your course a degree course? Is the school a Uni or? Is it recognised by the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service?

ah it's trinity college dublin!!! Pharmacy foundation course

Justaino97:
ah it's trinity college dublin!!! Pharmacy foundation course

Trinity college is a popular well recognised school in Ireland.

Can you repackage yourself with the below list?

(1) Letter of Undertaking, stating that you will observe the conditions of your visa by returning to Nigeria on completion of your study

(2) Personal Statement of Purpose explaining why you want to study in Ireland and the reasons why you will return to Nigeria and how it would benefit Nigeria. Make sure you give evidence of your relationship with your sponsor, such as picture(s) you snap together or any other evidence of your relationship with him/her

(3) Your valid International Passport

(4) Your Passport photographs

(5) Your qualifications / Certificates

(6) Your birth certificate

(7) Your personal bank statement

(8.) A personal letter explaining any gaps in your education history in Nigeria, The visa officer stated in his refusal letter that you did not explain the gaps in your education since June 2013, so you need to explain the reason of the gaps and what you have been doing since then. Make sure you provide evidence of what you have been doing during those gaps.

(9) A Letter of Sponsorship from your sponsor, why he wish to sponsor you and full explanation of his/her relationship with you, attach copy of his/her International passport

(10) Your sponsor's personal statement of account, & company if possible, showing 6 month transaction details. PLEASE NOTE: make sure that the amount balance in your sponsor's bank account is much more higher than all costs of your school fees/trip to Ireland

(11) Your sponsor's proof of income such as copy of his company's certificate of incorporation and tax clearance, also include his landed property documents like you said

(12) Offer letter from the school in Ireland

(13) Confirmation of Enrolment from the School in Ireland confirming you have been accepted and enrolled on a course of full-time day-time education. Don't forget that you must have access to €3,000 at first registration. This is in addition to your course fees.

(14) You must have PRIVATE MEDICAL INSURANCE, either PERSONALLY or through a group scheme operated by the school in Ireland, at time of registration in accordance with the conditions as required by the Irish Immigration

(15) You must have proof that your school fees have been paid to the college. If your school fees are below €6,000, the full amount of the fees must be paid in advance.

(16) Police criminal clearance certificate, though not compulsory, but its good

(17) Letter of inroduction from your previous school, maybe the last school you attended in Nigeria, not compulsory but its good

(18) Letter of introduction from your parents explaining what it would mean to them seeing you gradute in Ireland and your return to Nigeria, if possible attach copy of their International passport

(19) Your online visa application form

(20) A letter confirming your accommodation in Ireland

(21) Pay your visa fee at the VFS submission centre

(22) Pray until something happen


Don't be quick to rush to another embassy for now, prove the Irish Embassy wrong and get your visa. You can contact your school and notify them your intention to reapply, discuss about accommodation with them if there is any help they can do for you in that regard.

Don't rush, get those documents in order one-by-one, you'll still smile! Ireland is a good quite country to study!


I think you're good to go with this, if there is any to add or remove, my bosses like Vicjustice and Justwise will let you know.

dotcomnamename:



Trinity college is a popular well recognised school in Ireland.

Can you repackage yourself with the below list?

(1) Letter of Undertaking, stating that you will observe the conditions of your visa by returning to Nigeria on completion of your study

(2) Personal Statement of Purpose explaining why you want to study in Ireland and the reasons why you will return to Nigeria and how it would benefit Nigeria. Make sure you give evidence of your relationship with your sponsor, such as picture(s) you snap together or any other evidence of your relationship with him/her

(3) Your valid International Passpor

(4) Your Passport photographs

(5) Your qualifications / Certificates

(6) Your birth certificate

(7) Your personal bank statement

(8.) A personal letter explaining any gaps in your education history in Nigeria, The visa officer stated in his refusal letter that you did not explain the gaps in your education since June 2013, so you need to explain the reason of the gaps and what you have been doing since then. Make sure you provide evidence of what you have been doing during those gaps.

(9) A Letter of Sponsorship from your sponsor, why he wish to sponsor you and full explanation of his/her relationship with you, attach copy of his/her International passport

(10) Your sponsor's personal statement of account, & company if possible, showing 6 month transaction details. PLEASE NOTE: make sure that the amount balance in your sponsor's bank account is much more higher than all costs of your school fees/trip to Ireland

(11) Your sponsor's proof of income such as copy of his company's certificate of incorporation and tax clearance, also include his landed property documents like you said

(12) Offer letter from the school in Ireland

(13) Confirmation of Enrolment from the School in Ireland confirming you have been accepted and enrolled on a course of full-time day-time education. Don't forget that you must have access to €3,000 at first registration. This is in addition to your course fees.

(14) You must have PRIVATE MEDICAL INSURANCE, either PERSONALLY or through a group scheme operated by the school in Ireland, at time of registration in accordance with the conditions as required by the Irish Immigration

(15) You must have proof that your school fees have been paid to the college. If your school fees are below €6,000, the full amount of the fees must be paid in advance.

(16) Police criminal clearance certificate, though not compulsory, but its good

(17) Letter of inroduction from your previous school, maybe the last school you attended in Nigeria, not compulsory but its good

(18) Letter of introduction from your parents explaining what it would mean to them seeing you gradute in Ireland and your return to Nigeria, if possible attach copy of their International passport

(19) Your online visa application form

(20) A letter confirming your accommodation in Ireland

(21) Pay your visa fee at the VFS submission centre

(22) Pray until something happen


Don't be quick to rush to another embassy for now, prove the Irish Embassy wrong and get your visa. You can contact your school and notify them your intention to reapply, discuss about accommodation with them if there is any help they can do for you in that regard.

Don't rush, get those documents in order one-by-one, you'll still smile! Ireland is a good quite country to study!


I think you're good to go with this, if there is any to add or remove, my bosses like Vicjustice and Justwise will let you know.

wow!!! Thank you very very very much. I really appreciate this

Justaino97:
wow!!! Thank you very very very much. I really appreciate this

and also, is it possible for me to use the old bank statement fort sonsor, because I have paid full fees already though but the N4m which was previously in his own personal acc is no longer there because he runs an oil and gas company so most of his personal income, he puts it into his business so as at now there's no money but we could put money there if we wanted to but wouldn't that be lump sum lodgement?? What if we can explain how the money got there Would the visa still be refused

Justaino97:
and also, is it possible for me to use the old bank statement fort sonsor, because I have paid full fees already though but the N4m which was previously in his own personal acc is no longer there because he runs an oil and gas company so most of his personal income, he puts it into his business so as at now there's no money but we could put money there if we wanted to but wouldn't that be lump sum lodgement?? What if we can explain how the money got there Would the visa still be refused

I don't think putting money there from now matters since you've recently applied for the visa, what if it happens to lodge money there not for your visa purpose. You can ask your sponsor to request a new statement and you can also include the old one together too.

dotcomnamename:


I don't think putting money there from now matters since you've recently applied for the visa, what if it happens to lodge money there not for your visa purpose. You can ask your sponsor to request a new statement and you can also include the old one together too.

ok meaning a new statement with the money may not be required or I could use the old statement because that one ended 24th October

Justaino97:
ok meaning a new statement with the money may not be required or I could use the old statement because that one ended 24th October

A new statement is very important. I will advise you to use a new statement, then submit it along with the old one.

dotcomnamename:


A new statement is very important. I will advise you to use a new statement, then submit it along with the old one.

please do you know anything about education bond ireland Don't you think it's far better than providing proof of evidence through bank statements

www.educationbondireland.com

Justaino97:
please do you know anything about education bond ireland Don't you think it's far better than providing proof of evidence through bank statements

its as simple as ABC. Before I registered with dem I was thinking its a difficult process. I was so scared, cos of scam (internet fraud).

Its all about u registering with them. Diers site is a secure site. Create an account, wit a unique user name and password(ensure that the website on the address bar has an S after the http(https). Or a padlock icon. Depending on ur browser. Either of this Means u re secure
But b4 that u need to hv a Visa reference number, becos that is what dey will use to generate ur transaction.


After filling the form online immediately u will receive a mail (transfer details) its going to be a bank account of the edu bond agent in dublin. Usually interpay.

The edu bond is a minimum of 7000 euro..

The pay to study people work 24 7 u can contact dem and ensure that u clearly state it that u hv paid ur fees, that dis is for the evidence of finance. (Which is an altenative to SOA)

The good thing about the edu bond is that!
* it faster and easier for the VOs to cross check
* ur application will be more authentic. (There is really money in ireland waiting for u)
* u will collect ur money upon arrival in ireland after u hv completed ur registration, school reg, GNIB, etc( and its ur complete cash)
But note that dey may request for another proof of finance. (Dey may or may not)

Justaino97:
please do you know anything about education bond ireland Don't you think it's far better than providing proof of evidence through bank statements

I agree with Amosiye

dotcomnamename:


I agree with Amosiye

o boy!!! And I've been stressing myself all these while!!! But what abt financial details from sponsor? My sponsor is my uncle, he has 4 houses which he collects rent from making a total of 17 flats let's say 350k per year from each tenant and also runs an oil and gas company because as at now, there's absolutely nothing in his acc and I don't want anything like lump sums

Dat lumpsum thing is direct ticket to Refusal. Don't get ur self involve in that.

Justaino97:
o boy!!! And I've been stressing myself all these while!!! But what abt financial details from sponsor? My sponsor is my uncle, he has 4 houses which he collects rent from making a total of 17 flats let's say 350k per year from each tenant and also runs an oil and gas company because as at now, there's absolutely nothing in his acc and I don't want anything like lump sums

what u will do is to pay the bond first include ur receipt (payment details) on u application, then if the VO still requests for another proof of finance b4 u can include any of those details.

Amosiye:
Dat lumpsum thing is direct ticket to Refusal. Don't get ur self involve in that.what u will do is to pay the bond first include ur receipt (payment details) on u application, then if the VO still requests for another proof of finance b4 u can include any of those details.

It would be very good if he include her sponsor statements along with the bond receipt to make the proof of finance looks more stronger

Amosiye:
Dat lumpsum thing is direct ticket to Refusal. Don't get ur self involve in that.what u will do is to pay the bond first include ur receipt (payment details) on u application, then if the VO still requests for another proof of finance b4 u can include any of those details.

we are going to include the source of the money and since his account has been very very active that wouldn't be a problem. And besides, the N4m which is being brought in is from his company's.

Justaino97:
we are going to include the source of the money and since his account has been very very active that wouldn't be a problem. And besides, the N4m which is being brought in is from his company's.

I don't think they would consider it as lump sum since its not the first time application, he has used it before and they want it to make correction in the point raised in the refusal letter. The fact remain the same that the bond receipt would be submitted along how fresh application. However, i'll advise you to submit the Bond receipt, new sponsor statements and the old sponsor statements. = Stronger!

A better advise

dotcomnamename:



I don't think they would consider it as lump sum since its not the first time application, he has used it before and they want it to make correction in the point raised in the refusal letter. The fact remain the same that the bond receipt would be submitted along how fresh application. However, i'll advise you to submit the Bond receipt, new sponsor statements and the old sponsor statements. = Stronger!

Amosiye:
A better advise

another thing though.... Don't be offended though. What if I choose not to pay the bond and use just the N4m which I did today into my sponsors company acc and then into his own personal acc so it could have a better explanation of where the money came from. Would lent that also be accepted??