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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by ElMatteo(m): 2:17pm On Oct 10, 2012
I know its quite easy F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ us τ̅☺ point accusing fingers in this case. The doctor definitely misdiagnosed but τ̅☺ see this problem as a Nigerian one is as bad as what †ђε doctor did- a mis-diagnosis. In fact, as a doctor đα̲̅τ̲̅ studied here, I would say we pass through more rigors than those in developed countries aπϑ aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ also made τ̅☺ learn much more than them. U̶̲̥̅̊ can verify đα̲̅τ̲̅ if u aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ in doubt or why else do u think a large percent of doctors here travel abroad aπϑ aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ successful at what they do. We read wider, study more diseases đα̲̅τ̲̅ aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ commoner here aπϑ we aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ still at †ђε mercies of our examiners who can fail u on impulse not just because u dnt kno enough but probably cos they dnt like ΰя face.


People often forget đα̲̅τ̲̅ we aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ humans aπϑ with †ђε little facilities at our disposal, we aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ limited in our bid τ̅☺ make accurate diagnosis, this not being because we aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ not well trained. The doctor of course shouldn't have made †ђε wrong diagnosis but as u av pointed out it was a SPECIALIST đα̲̅τ̲̅ eventually made †ђε right diagnosis...perhaps u shud av insisted τ̅☺ see †ђε specialist in †ђε first place.
As doctors, we learn more as we practice so u cannot compare †ђε clinical acumen of a specialist τ̅☺ đα̲̅τ̲̅ of a Junior resident F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ example, †ђε gap is wide whether in America or in Nigeria.
Have we easily forgotten †ђε doctor đα̲̅τ̲̅ managed M. Jackson was an American or †ђε surgeon đα̲̅τ̲̅ forgot an instrument in a patient was American or have we also forgotten đα̲̅τ̲̅ †ђε surgeon under whose watch Stella Obasanjo died was also fined F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ bad practice. She left our so called quack doctors in Nigeria only τ̅☺ go aπϑ meet another one abroad.
The bottom line is doctors make mistakes cos we aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ not computers cos diff patients present differently aπϑ †ђε more facilities we have at our disposal, †ђε more accurate we wud be.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by jedisco(m): 2:18pm On Oct 10, 2012
superior1:
What is it about quack doctors in Nigeria (I have had friends report their adventure with many, one was even consulting textbook right in front of an acquitance ) is it that our medical schools are producing bad ones or medical students are no longer paying close attention to their lessons?

I don't get this part of your story. This your belief is absolutely wrong.

First, I think he might have been consulting a drug manual maybe to check up doses or market names of drugs.
Even if it was a textbook, it shows the doctor understands he doesn't know everything (no one does) or might have forgotten something and is willing to check it up rather than commit error.

The purpose of education is not to know it all, but to know enough to render help in emergencies and to know where to source for and apply necessary information accordingly.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by ElMatteo(m): 2:34pm On Oct 10, 2012
aπϑ about †ђε textbook thing, đα̲̅τ̲̅ shudnt be an issue. U̶̲̥̅̊ really think our brains as doctors aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ computers...probably he is checking τ̅☺ confirm †ђε doses of †ђε drugs he is τ̅☺ administer. In fact as I sit in †ђε consulting room, I have my laptop on so I can always check F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ †ђε correct doses of some drugs in case I forget...wudnt đα̲̅τ̲̅ be better than prescribing †ђε wrong doses. There aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ a million aπϑ one drugs available so u dnt expect đα̲̅τ̲̅ †ђε doctor wud cram all †ђε doses aπϑ †ђε more †ђε doctor remains in practice, †ђε better he would get.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by AkinDavid2: 2:36pm On Oct 10, 2012
AmBeautiful: @ op

telling us the name of that hospital would be better

to save the lives of others patronizing that same hospital!

It would be nice to provide the hospital name!

You really don't need that..the child getting better is more important, Clinics in the area mentioned will not want to risk their practicing licences by employing quacks..trust God
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by aryzgreat: 2:36pm On Oct 10, 2012
My experience at LUTH simply x-rayed naija health system decay.
I had fever coupled with difficulty in breathing, cough and fast pace breathing on little exercise like walking around. I went to LUTH as an out-patient and was treated for malaria, after 3days my condition worsened to the extent that i was rushed to the emergency, from there investigation commenced ECG report was 106bpm (meaning my heart beat at 106 beats per minute rada than normal 60bpm or 70bpm). Medical students used me to do practical, their Reg after checking me said it was PNEUMONIA, come see injection upon injection! i was placed on Augmentin intravenous injection 4 times a day, for 2 weeks no improvement on my breathlessness. I was only relying on God, meanwhile medical students were busy taking my blood sample, urine, stool etc for their personal test like HIV at my cost even when i told them my status(God will punish them)

When the endocrine unit got tired, they transferred me to Respiratory unit after i told them, i will not receive the augmentin injection again, God sent a young Dr from the respiratory unit who after examining me, told me that 2 tests will be needed and my ailment will be diagnosed. He sent me for sputum test and spirometry(lung test). True to his word the spirometry showed a narrowed or swollen respiratory track(which limits the air intake and obstructs my breathing and the sputum test showed my body is resistant to augmentin but susceptible to ofloxacin, so i was placed on ofloxacin anti-biotic tablet and predinisolone (anti-infamatory steroidal drug) as my whole body has been riddled with injection, withing 4 days i was discharged as the anti-biotics relieved me a great deal. The young Dr said it was respiratory track infection.

with d crop of medical students i witnessed in LUTH who will be "pinging" during ward round while their Reg lectures, i wonder what the future of our health system will be. Most of them are just there to answer Dr but not passionate about the job, Human life is nothing to them. I witnessed 9 deaths in my ward alone and was even afraid i might not come out of LUTH alive, but God saved me through that Young Doc. It was a terrible experience but i thank God.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by controlseven: 2:39pm On Oct 10, 2012
I think your choice of word "quack" is a bit harsh on the entire medical practitioners except if the Dr/hospital is not certified by the appropriate bodies. Inasmush as doctors often make wrong diagnosis, that does not make them quack. Such mistakes abound in every profession even abroad. I feel we should pressure our govt to increase funding in the health sector. Thats where the major problem lies!
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by francis247(m): 2:48pm On Oct 10, 2012
superior1:

Thanks Sis. I was at the hospital later yesterday and almost wept seeing my daughter so weak but graciously responding to treatment. I wish for seconds I can take that quack to Aluu for serious punishment.I no blame Jonathan and his cohorts for travelling out each time they have sore throat.
LWKMD!
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by DrWhizy(m): 2:52pm On Oct 10, 2012
[quote author=passion007]sorry about your baby and I hope she is getting better. Well, I do not know how old your baby is nor the pattern of her symptoms especially the fever. Nevertheless, you may have judged that doctor too rashly. The symptoms you have mentioned cut across malaria and penumonia. In fact, pneumonia is a close differential diagnosis of malaria in the pediatric age group. Besides, at your first presentation, there was neither cough nor breathlessness and the doctor was right in his diagnosis based on the facts he had.

I myself trained at the University of Nigeria--MBBS is far from easy to come by around here. In clinical practice, making the right diagnosis is not nearly so easy--in an ideal setting, one should have a side-lab where a full blood count and blood smear for malaria parasite would have been done, or else a rapid diagnostic test for malaria, with or without a chest xray. That would have made the right diagnosis obvious, but in our setting, the doctor is faced with peculiar challenges that stymie even the best brains.

I understand your aggression at the doctor--it's your child that's in focus, but at the same time, doctors are not magicians. We work with facts, that is why we ask a lot of questions because the answers to those questions will either support one diagnosis or refute another.

PS--about the doctor who was consulting with a text, there is absolutely nothing wrong in that. I myself consult with my tablet. Medicine is so broad and so diverse that it takes several years to have a working knowledge of all its different aspects. Besides, would you rather the doctor prescribes 500mg of Amiodarone for instance--only to find out laater that he had. Spott on overdosed you. In matters regarding health, it is safe to make assurance doubly-sure.[/quote. Spot on my fellow lion.well said.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by dridowu: 3:04pm On Oct 10, 2012
Dy spoiling d profesion
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by lwise(m): 3:06pm On Oct 10, 2012
I will continue to say it most of our young Doctors are half baked,they are just like typical Nigerian youth who has nothing but money on their mind.You will see an Electrical engineer that couldn't tell you the function of a cct. breaker.Its everywhere,no one should try to defend them its all as a result of decline in standard of education.They are all blackberry doctors,pinging everywhere even in theater.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by tegax(m): 3:09pm On Oct 10, 2012
Doctors surely have a way of covering up for the mistakes of their colleagues....hmmmm. I feel u bro. Nurses, please learn fron passion007 and colleagues in same profession.... Gbam!!!
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by anishe(m): 3:11pm On Oct 10, 2012
AmBeautiful: @ op

telling us the name of that hospital would be better

to save the lives of others patronizing that same hospital!

It would be nice to provide the hospital name!
.
What would the name of the clinic or hospitals do to you. The Doctor in question here is not s quack but perhaps, he lacks the requisite experience. If you are complaining about the mistake of a Doctor, what about people who are not medically trained but open clinic and hospitals and operate a full blown clinic? The government and the concerned regulatory bodies are not doing enough to control the practice of doctors and the medical profession in the country. In advance countries, things like these don't happen, and if they do happen, heads will definitely roll.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by MacLovington(m): 3:34pm On Oct 10, 2012
superior1: Perhaps one of the ills plaguing this country include her teaming numbers of quack doctors. I lost a pregnant relative just last year because the doctor misdiagnosize and administered wrong treatment to her.

Last Friday my daughter started showing symptoms of malaria and we decided to take her to a popular specialist hospital located in Ikeja. The doctor on duty without thinking twice heard my wife's complain and gave our girl malaria treatment. On sunday, we noticed fatigue, lost of appetite, extremely high temperature, difficult breathing and running nose. Over sunday/monday night she couldn't sleep and kept vomiting all her mother was able to give her (including breast milk).

Today (Monday), we took her to the same hospital and was attended to by the same doctor who recommended a dosage of quinine and paracetamol but has my wife was leaving the hospital, she felt led to speak with the pediatrician who was just strolling into the hospital to resume duties. She re-examined our 10month kid and concluded she is with pneumonia and the thing was in advance stage. The girl was immediately placed under admission for critical treatment. If not for God, that quack doctor would have given my family another story to tell.

What is it about quack doctors in Nigeria (I have had friends report their adventure with many, one was even consulting textbook right in front of an acquitance ) is it that our medical schools are producing bad ones or medical students are no longer paying close attention to their lessons?

Sorry about the sweet little baby's illness. Thank God she's responding well.
The doctor is not quack as that would mean he's not qualified.
I think some jobs are left to junior doctors (things seniors ones should be doing) and they haven't yet got the experience. MBBS is not the main thing (as difficult as it is) but the subsequent training under senior doctors and real life clinical experience.

Paediatrics is not easy. In diseases like menningitis and pneumonia, the symptoms can worsen very quickly.

The child might have been recovering from a mild form of malaria (even if parent didn't know) so things like pallor of conjuctiva may have been there. But of course if there was no functioning side-lab to test FBC and do blood smear, it would be a guess work.
When I visited Naija last year, I was discussing with my mrs how many kids had signs of anaemia. She noticed same thing.
The aphorism is "common things first". Your baby's signs were actually consistent with initial diagnosis if there were no respiratory symptoms then.

As for doctors reading book to treat, in the UK, the BNF is on every doctor's table. Drugs, dosage, side effects, contra-indications etc are updated frequently so checking the latest is a good thing.
These days in the West, before patients arrive for appointment, your doctor at John Hopkins in Baltimore might have discussed your case with a top expert at Cedar Sinai for opinion. One at Imperial college London/Chelsea and Westminster Hospital might have contacted a collaegue at Edinburgh Royal Infirmary. All these via video link. The world is a global village and medicine is making use of it too.

A time will come when your doctor at UCH Ibadan first thing in the morning will be seeking the opinion of an expert colleague at Klinikum Grosshadern in Munich and vice versa. Via video link. It will benefit everyone
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Isaleeko2: 3:37pm On Oct 10, 2012
passion007: sorry about your baby and I hope she is getting better. Well, I do not know how old your baby is nor the pattern of her symptoms especially the fever. Nevertheless, you may have judged that doctor too rashly. The symptoms you have mentioned cut across malaria and penumonia. In fact, pneumonia is a close differential diagnosis of malaria in the pediatric age group. Besides, at your first presentation, there was neither cough nor breathlessness and the doctor was right in his diagnosis based on the facts he had.

I myself trained at the University of Nigeria--MBBS is far from easy to come by around here. In clinical practice, making the right diagnosis is not nearly so easy--in an ideal setting, one should have a side-lab where a full blood count and blood smear for malaria parasite would have been done, or else a rapid diagnostic test for malaria, with or without a chest xray. That would have made the right diagnosis obvious, but in our setting, the doctor is faced with peculiar challenges that stymie even the best brains.

I understand your aggression at the doctor--it's your child that's in focus, but at the same time, doctors are not magicians. We work with facts, that is why we ask a lot of questions because the answers to those questions will either support one diagnosis or refute another.

PS--about the doctor who was consulting with a text, there is absolutely nothing wrong in that. I myself consult with my tablet. Medicine is so broad and so diverse that it takes several years to have a working knowledge of all its different aspects. Besides, would you rather the doctor prescribes 500mg of Amiodarone for instance--only to find out laater that he had overdosed you. In matters regarding health, it is safe to make assurance doubly-sure.

Sir, what are you talking about? I am very angry right now but that doctor should be fired and sent back to medical school.

After taking a medical history, you do a complete examination and then lab investigations. It is obvious that the doctor did not even listen to the baby's chest before writing malaria drugs. All he/she needed was an ordinary stethoscope. How did the pediatrician diagnose the pneumonia? I am sure he did not have to do plenty lab investigations in the same hospital.

By the way, how can you prescribe quinine for a child who has developed resistant malaria (according to that fake doctor) and then send the child home? What kind of nonsense is that?

That doctor should be fired!

Sometimes I wish I was a lawyer, all these rubbish many Nigerian doctors do will land their asses in jail and they will start sitting up. It is because of all these nonsense that I left the medical profession.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Nobody: 3:44pm On Oct 10, 2012
superior1: Perhaps one of the ills plaguing this country include her teaming numbers of quack doctors. I lost a pregnant relative just last year because the doctor misdiagnosize and administered wrong treatment to her.

Last Friday my daughter started showing symptoms of malaria and we decided to take her to a popular specialist hospital located in Ikeja. The doctor on duty without thinking twice heard my wife's complain and gave our girl malaria treatment. On sunday, we noticed fatigue, lost of appetite, extremely high temperature, difficult breathing and running nose. Over sunday/monday night she couldn't sleep and kept vomiting all her mother was able to give her (including breast milk).

Today (Monday), we took her to the same hospital and was attended to by the same doctor who recommended a dosage of quinine and paracetamol but has my wife was leaving the hospital, she felt led to speak with the pediatrician who was just strolling into the hospital to resume duties. She re-examined our 10month kid and concluded she is with pneumonia and the thing was in advance stage. The girl was immediately placed under admission for critical treatment. If not for God, that quack doctor would have given my family another story to tell.

What is it about quack doctors in Nigeria (I have had friends report their adventure with many, one was even consulting textbook right in front of an acquitance ) is it that our medical schools are producing bad ones or medical students are no longer paying close attention to their lessons?

Sad. Misdiagnoses can be fatal. But there's nothing wrong in checking a textbook during consultation. Wouldn't you rather your doctor confirmed a dosage or safety of a particular drug he isn't sure of than let his pride n stubbornness get in the way. A lot of doctors have reference books in their offices and life is even easier now with tablets, phablets, smartphones etc. I hope your child is getting better though.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Nobody: 3:56pm On Oct 10, 2012
aryzgreat: My experience at LUTH simply x-rayed naija health system decay.
I had fever coupled with difficulty in breathing, cough and fast pace breathing on little exercise like walking around. I went to LUTH as an out-patient and was treated for malaria, after 3days my condition worsened to the extent that i was rushed to the emergency, from there investigation commenced ECG report was 106bpm (meaning my heart beat at 106 beats per minute rada than normal 60bpm or 70bpm). Medical students used me to do practical, their Reg after checking me said it was PNEUMONIA, come see injection upon injection! i was placed on Augmentin intravenous injection 4 times a day, for 2 weeks no improvement on my breathlessness. I was only relying on God, meanwhile medical students were busy taking my blood sample, urine, stool etc for their personal test like HIV at my cost even when i told them my status(God will punish them)

When the endocrine unit got tired, they transferred me to Respiratory unit after i told them, i will not receive the augmentin injection again, God sent a young Dr from the respiratory unit who after examining me, told me that 2 tests will be needed and my ailment will be diagnosed. He sent me for sputum test and spirometry(lung test). True to his word the spirometry showed a narrowed or swollen respiratory track(which limits the air intake and obstructs my breathing and the sputum test showed my body is resistant to augmentin but susceptible to ofloxacin, so i was placed on ofloxacin anti-biotic tablet and predinisolone (anti-infamatory steroidal drug) as my whole body has been riddled with injection, withing 4 days i was discharged as the anti-biotics relieved me a great deal. The young Dr said it was respiratory track infection.

with d crop of medical students i witnessed in LUTH who will be "pinging" during ward round while their Reg lectures, i wonder what the future of our health system will be. Most of them are just there to answer Dr but not passionate about the job, Human life is nothing to them. I witnessed 9 deaths in my ward alone and was even afraid i might not come out of LUTH alive, but God saved me through that Young Doc. It was a terrible experience but i thank God.

Though I understand your frustration, I think your post was rather unfair. This same system you criticise has produced the finest doctors in Nigeria today. Being a medical student really sucks - you take s#it from d consultants, residents and even patients. I'm sure dey hated doing those procedures on you and would have given anything in the world not to do it. They obviously couldn't have benefited from tests carried out on you. LUTH is a very big hospital and they receive the worst patients from all over the country so the fact that nine (9) pts died in your ward alone doesn't really count for much if you consider the 'seriousness' of the ailments most of them must have come with. On pinging, that is wrong - there's such a thing as bedside manners - they will have to respond to that themselves. I find that a lot of patients transfer aaggression to medical students because dey are of no 'immediate benefit' usually but when they become interns, then a lot of diz same patients respect them even more than the senior docs because they are more available and usually more patient - pun intended. grin

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by superior1: 4:02pm On Oct 10, 2012
Isale_eko:

Sir, what are you talking about? I am very angry right now but that doctor should be fired and sent back to medical school.

After taking a medical history, you do a complete examination and then lab investigations. It is obvious that the doctor did not even listen to the baby's chest before writing malaria drugs. All he/she needed was an ordinary stethoscope. How did the pediatrician diagnose the pneumonia? I am sure he did not have to do plenty lab investigations in the same hospital.

By the way, how can you prescribe quinine for a child who has developed resistant malaria (according to that fake doctor) and then send the child home? What kind of nonsense is that?

That doctor should be fired!

Sometimes I wish I was a lawyer, all these rubbish many Nigerian doctors do will land their asses in jail and they will start sitting up. It is because of all these nonsense that I left the medical profession.


May heaven bless you Isale eko, I intentionally left out the name of the hospital because it is well respected and I pay quite a fortune getting treatment for my family there(which added to my annoyance)

My wife told me ,the Pediatrician simply listened closely to the girls breathing with stethoscope and invited my wife to also do same which she did and later confirmed to me she also heard sounds different to her heart beat and breathing. The Pediatrician then explained to her (my wife) it is the sign of pneumonia before carrying out other test.

To the Docs., I understand you guys are trying to defend your Professional Colleague but I think you should rather learn from this. Make sure you are sure and when you are not sure ask from those who should know better before jumping into conclusion. Most of you would not try the nonsense you call medical practice if your were working abroad, sebi na naija, anything goes, abi?.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by slimyem: 4:12pm On Oct 10, 2012
I had a near-death experience as a 10-year old.
My illness was diagnosed as malaria..
Funny thing is the doctor who treated and gave me prescriptions was a senior doctor in a general hospital.
The drug was alfan(dunno if that's the exact spelling).I was given a dosage that was too much for my weight.
I fainted 3 times in one day...the last one had me already gasping as i was revived with 3 dosages of some "hydro-something".can't remember exactly.
I spent weeks at the hospital while the doctor was covered up and my parents were implored not to press charges.
.
Doctors anywhere will always make mistakes as they are not perfect.
Lets just hope that we don't fall victims to any of such.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by aletheia(m): 4:23pm On Oct 10, 2012
aryzgreat: My experience at LUTH simply x-rayed naija health system decay.
I had fever coupled with difficulty in breathing, cough and fast pace breathing on little exercise like walking around. I went to LUTH as an out-patient and was treated for malaria, after 3days my condition worsened to the extent that i was rushed to the emergency, from there investigation commenced ECG report was 106bpm (meaning my heart beat at 106 beats per minute rada than normal 60bpm or 70bpm). Medical students used me to do practical, their Reg after checking me said it was PNEUMONIA, come see injection upon injection! i was placed on Augmentin intravenous injection 4 times a day, for 2 weeks no improvement on my breathlessness. I was only relying on God, meanwhile medical students were busy taking my blood sample, urine, stool etc for their personal test like HIV at my cost even when i told them my status(God will punish them)

When the endocrine unit got tired, they transferred me to Respiratory unit after i told them, i will not receive the augmentin injection again, God sent a young Dr from the respiratory unit who after examining me, told me that 2 tests will be needed and my ailment will be diagnosed. He sent me for sputum test and spirometry(lung test). True to his word the spirometry showed a narrowed or swollen respiratory track(which limits the air intake and obstructs my breathing and the sputum test showed my body is resistant to augmentin but susceptible to ofloxacin, so i was placed on ofloxacin anti-biotic tablet and predinisolone (anti-infamatory steroidal drug) as my whole body has been riddled with injection, withing 4 days i was discharged as the anti-biotics relieved me a great deal. The young Dr said it was respiratory track infection.

with d crop of medical students i witnessed in LUTH who will be "pinging" during ward round while their Reg lectures, i wonder what the future of our health system will be. Most of them are just there to answer Dr but not passionate about the job, Human life is nothing to them. I witnessed 9 deaths in my ward alone and was even afraid i might not come out of LUTH alive, but God saved me through that Young Doc. It was a terrible experience but i thank God.

Pneumonia is synonymous with Lower Respiratory Tract Infection. . .so your initial diagnosis was not wrong.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Nobody: 4:31pm On Oct 10, 2012
superior1:


May heaven bless you Isale eko, I intentionally left out the name of the hospital because it is well respected and I pay quite a fortune getting treatment for my family there(which added to my annoyance)

My wife told me ,the Pediatrician simply listened closely to the girls breathing with stethoscope and invited my wife to also do same which she did and later confirmed to me she also heard sounds different to her heart beat and breathing. The Pediatrician then explained to her (my wife) it is the sign of pneumonia before carrying out other test.

To the Docs., I understand you guys are trying to defend your Professional Colleague but I think you should rather learn from this. Make sure you are sure and when you are not sure ask from those who should know better before jumping into conclusion. Most of you would not try the nonsense you call medical practice if your were working abroad, sebi na naija, anything goes, abi?.

If you ask me, the bolded in this comment z largely unnecessary. Did u just ridicule the practice of ...? I'm out.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Rooneyboy(m): 4:35pm On Oct 10, 2012
Infact I'm a living witness to the fact that most of our medical personnels in the country are quacks; sorry to say but that is the truth.

I was ill for more than 2years , while this sickness lasted I was going to FMC lagos(@ oyingbo) for treatment. Each time I went there I was always faced with a new doctor entirely ; and of course new sets of prescriptions(buying drugs running in thousands in their pharmacy ) , this routine happened for two good years.
My health deteriorated to the point that I couldn't even walk again.

18th october last year I flew to enugu to see some foreign doctors(mainly indian doctors and a few spanish) in niger foundations hospital. I was so impressed with their professionalism, and swiftness in which they handle cases. That same day after series of tests were carried our I was ushered into the theatre for a biopsy(surgery),

2 weeks after this they came up with the biopsy result , and I commenced treatment .

I'm really ashamed of my country I must confess, without the intervention of these foreign doctors only God knows what have happened to rooneyboy.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Rooneyboy(m): 5:10pm On Oct 10, 2012
annoymous:

Though I understand your frustration, I think your post was rather unfair. This same system you criticise has produced the finest doctors in Nigeria today. Being a medical student really sucks - you take s#it from d consultants, residents and even patients. I'm sure dey hated doing those procedures on you and would have given anything in the world not to do it. They obviously couldn't have benefited from tests carried out on you. LUTH is a very big hospital and they receive the worst patients from all over the country so the fact that nine (9) pts died in your ward alone doesn't really count for much if you consider the 'seriousness' of the ailments most of them must have come with. On pinging, that is wrong - there's such a thing as bedside manners - they will have to respond to that themselves. I find that a lot of patients transfer aaggression to medical students because dey are of no 'immediate benefit' usually but when they become interns, then a lot of diz same patients respect them even more than the senior docs because they are more available and usually more patient - pun intended. grin

U call LUTH one of the finest ? Pls spare me that abeg,
I lost a friend in november last year there , and I know how many persons died within that 2 weeks my friend was admitted.

Imagine someone was shot and was rushed to LUTH , gained consciousness for two weeks(under went two different surgeries "removing pellets"wink and yet still they allowed him to die after series of "neglected"complaints .

When he passed away they did what they know how to do best "autopsy" and came out with a nasty report that they discovered some pellets still in his lungs,
AFTER TWO GOOD WEEKS.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Nobody: 5:30pm On Oct 10, 2012
Rooneyboy:

U call LUTH one of the finest ? Pls spare me that abeg,
I lost a friend in november last year there , and I know how many persons died within that 2 weeks my friend was admitted.

Imagine someone was shot and was rushed to LUTH , gained consciousness for two weeks(under went two different surgeries "removing pellets"wink and yet still they allowed him to die after series of "neglected"complaints .

When he passed away they did what they know how to do best "autopsy" and came out with a nasty report that they discovered some pellets still in his lungs,
AFTER TWO GOOD WEEKS.

Let not emotion becloud our judgement. I did not call LUTH one of the 'finest' hospitals in my post - I have never worked in LUTH or entered any of their wards. But the truth still remains that all cases that can not be managed by smaller hospitals end up in LUTH as well as cases that are obviously on their way out. A lot of doctors refer patients to these big hospitals knowing they have very little chance of surviving - just so dey don't die on their wards. I was not defending or praising LUTH - I was only stating the obvious. And I'm sure dat z d case in other big hospitals like UCH, UITH et al
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by hardbody: 5:42pm On Oct 10, 2012
Thank God, i do not go to the hospitals. I google my symptoms, search for prescription drugs and mode of administration and purchase them from a decent pharmaceutical company and wham, i am strong again. I havent seen a doctor for over 20 years now, the whole truth. I stopped trusting those people when they under prescribed (i hope that makes sense) teh drugs that my brother was meantto take as some point in time. I had as usual googled the drugs and the administration but the doctor was giving a different prescription. I pity my people in 9ja sha
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Yeske2(m): 5:49pm On Oct 10, 2012
Another silly thread to denigrate Nigerian doctors because of the mistake of one.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by ElMatteo(m): 6:18pm On Oct 10, 2012
Its funny đα̲̅τ̲̅ NLanders wud use †ђε experience of some few τ̅☺ describe every doctor. So because a couple of doctors misdiagnose, it means all Nigerian doctors aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ quacks, How shallow aπϑ myopic!! Why not let's open another trend F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ those whose lives have been saved by this same 'quack doctors', but we aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ always ready τ̅☺ broadcast †ђε mistakes of some few neglecting †ђε successes of many others.
Based on my experience as a doctor, many patients come τ̅☺ †ђε hospital in Nigeria when their at †ђε end stage of their diseases. They wid av visited all kinds of places like †ђε traditional healers but its when they realise there isnt any solution, they come τ̅☺ †ђε doctor expectiing him τ̅☺ just perform magic aπϑ when such a patient dies, then its cos Nigerian doctors aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ quacks.
Maybe u should go online τ̅☺ check how rampant medical malpractice is in †ђε world even in America. In case u can't check them out urself them u can visit these links aπϑ see F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ urself.

circ.ahajournals.org/content/109/24/2939.full

www.cwru.edu/med/epidbio/mphp439/Malpractice.htm

Kindly read through aπϑ see đα̲̅τ̲̅ u wud be doing injustice τ̅☺ think its a Nigerian problem. Infact †ђε second link talks about a girl đα̲̅τ̲̅ was transplanted with organs from an imcompatible donor which led τ̅☺ her death. Imagine đα̲̅τ̲̅ happening in Nigeria, then all hell would be let loose. I also stated †ђε example of Stella Obasanjo đα̲̅τ̲̅ went abroad F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ surgery aπϑ was killed by †ђε negligence of †ђε surgeon who was later fined.

We aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ always fast at pointing out †ђε weaknesses of people neglecting their strengths. Doctors in Nigeria aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ often over worked due τ̅☺ †ђε limited number of available personnels aπϑ also have τ̅☺ do without some basic facilities in making diagnosis cos they aren't available yet we all label them as quacks. How come those same quacks aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ been sought after by developed countries?

Let's call a spade a spade, medical malpractice as a whole is a global problem.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by ElMatteo(m): 6:19pm On Oct 10, 2012
Its funny đα̲̅τ̲̅ NLanders wud use †ђε experience of some few τ̅☺ describe every doctor. So because a couple of doctors misdiagnose, it means all Nigerian doctors aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ quacks, How shallow aπϑ myopic!! Why not let's open another trend F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ those whose lives have been saved by this same 'quack doctors', but we aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ always ready τ̅☺ broadcast †ђε mistakes of some few neglecting †ђε successes of many others.
Based on my experience as a doctor, many patients come τ̅☺ †ђε hospital in Nigeria when their at †ђε end stage of their diseases. They wid av visited all kinds of places like †ђε traditional healers but its when they realise there isnt any solution, they come τ̅☺ †ђε doctor expectiing him τ̅☺ just perform magic aπϑ when such a patient dies, then its cos Nigerian doctors aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ quacks.
Maybe u should go online τ̅☺ check how rampant medical malpractice is in †ђε world even in America. In case u can't check them out urself them u can visit these links aπϑ see F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ urself.

circ.ahajournals.org/content/109/24/2939.full

www.cwru.edu/med/epidbio/mphp439/Malpractice.htm

Kindly read through aπϑ see đα̲̅τ̲̅ u wud be doing injustice τ̅☺ think its a Nigerian problem. Infact †ђε second link talks about a girl đα̲̅τ̲̅ was transplanted with organs from an imcompatible donor which led τ̅☺ her death. Imagine đα̲̅τ̲̅ happening in Nigeria, then all hell would be let loose. I also stated †ђε example of Stella Obasanjo đα̲̅τ̲̅ went abroad F̶̲̅Õ̳͡я̅ surgery aπϑ was killed by †ђε negligence of †ђε surgeon who was later fined.

We aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ always fast at pointing out †ђε weaknesses of people neglecting their strengths. Doctors in Nigeria aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ often over worked due τ̅☺ †ђε limited number of available personnels aπϑ also have τ̅☺ do without some basic facilities in making diagnosis cos they aren't available yet we all label them as quacks. How come those same quacks aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ been sought after by developed countries?

Let's call a spade a spade, medical malpractice as a whole is a global problem.
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by bisiswag(f): 7:02pm On Oct 10, 2012
Doctor bashing thread no?

If only you guyz knew wot naija doctors had to contend with on a daily basis,u will reason differently

Dnt make generalizations cos of a singular occurence. He who wears a shoe knwz where it pinches!!
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by thehomer: 7:15pm On Oct 10, 2012
superior1: Perhaps one of the ills plaguing this country include her teaming numbers of quack doctors. I lost a pregnant relative just last year because the doctor misdiagnosize and administered wrong treatment to her.

Last Friday my daughter started showing symptoms of malaria and we decided to take her to a popular specialist hospital located in Ikeja. The doctor on duty without thinking twice heard my wife's complain and gave our girl malaria treatment. On sunday, we noticed fatigue, lost of appetite, extremely high temperature, difficult breathing and running nose. Over sunday/monday night she couldn't sleep and kept vomiting all her mother was able to give her (including breast milk).

Today (Monday), we took her to the same hospital and was attended to by the same doctor who recommended a dosage of quinine and paracetamol but has my wife was leaving the hospital, she felt led to speak with the pediatrician who was just strolling into the hospital to resume duties. She re-examined our 10month kid and concluded she is with pneumonia and the thing was in advance stage. The girl was immediately placed under admission for critical treatment. If not for God, that quack doctor would have given my family another story to tell.

What is it about quack doctors in Nigeria (I have had friends report their adventure with many, one was even consulting textbook right in front of an acquitance ) is it that our medical schools are producing bad ones or medical students are no longer paying close attention to their lessons?

Did you report this incident to the doctor supervising the one you met?
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Rooneyboy(m): 8:54pm On Oct 10, 2012
hardbody: Thank God, i do not go to the hospitals. I google my symptoms, search for prescription drugs and mode of administration and purchase them from a decent pharmaceutical company and wham, i am strong again. I havent seen a doctor for over 20 years now, the whole truth. I stopped trusting those people when they under prescribed (i hope that makes sense) teh drugs that my brother was meantto take as some point in time. I had as usual googled the drugs and the administration but the doctor was giving a different prescription. I pity my people in 9ja sha

Better change ur myopic way of reasoning.
Believe u me it will cause u more harm than good.

Something u must know is that there are "in some cases" same symptoms existing in different illnesses.

So u read up something on the internet that worked for "that writer" doesn't mean it will work for u.

Unless u do ur own test.

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Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by blackbeau1(f): 8:56pm On Oct 10, 2012
Why won't we have quacks when medical students now sort their MBBS exams
Re: My Experience With A Quack Doctor by Rooneyboy(m): 9:10pm On Oct 10, 2012
hardbody: Thank God, i do not go to the hospitals. I google my symptoms, search for prescription drugs and mode of administration and purchase them from a decent pharmaceutical company and wham, i am strong again. I havent seen a doctor for over 20 years now, the whole truth. I stopped trusting those people when they under prescribed (i hope that makes sense) teh drugs that my brother was meantto take as some point in time. I had as usual googled the drugs and the administration but the doctor was giving a different prescription. I pity my people in 9ja sha

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