smartchoice: Trac or tractor or whatever you call yourself you smack of myopic arrogance and were you blind or too drunk to see A REPOST at the beginning? If you do not agree its your biz. Its a public forum and have not said my views are sacrosanct!Neither have I said those were from me. Utter nonsense spewing from the trash you call a mouth! Would stop for now.

I won't dignify your insults with an answer: you've said it all and before the internet displayed the manner of person you are.

-- you now a fortress that you aren't subject to criticism? Not in contemporary civilisation! As far as I am concerned, nobody doubled as you and logged in with your user-name and password to type and paste what you posted.

The same trend continues; you still didn't learn: your post/information hasn't been backed up or defended. This is so because you cannot. This leave me to another question of criticism: how was my view myopic?

Is it because:
* the writeup was illogical
* I found it incomprehensible according to principles
* Preposterous arguments that could have been avoided if second thoughts were given/sought
* a fictional impossibility
or
* the writeup is comprehensibly termed "garbage"

Never post anything you cannot defend. Don't repeat anything if it is not completely understood. You are a coadjutor; an adjunct courier to the misinformation that impressed you enough to share. It would have a different thing if you understood the contents.

SmartChoice, examine the maintenance culture around you:
- People saving weight by uninstalling the temperature thermostat
- To maximise and increase fuel economy, the catalytic converters are deleted
- Sound and vibrational deadeners are removed without regards
- ECU's replaced without logical conclusions
- Visco 2000 in transmission crankcase
- Environmental factors are justification to wildly deviate from factory specifications
-- the list goes on

How did you think this trend started? Sure enough, it wasn't by human instincts. Definitely, a person or a group of people concluded upon such and others repeated without criticism. Sadly, it has now become a culture; in other words, an elevated level of bad practice. Many years ago, this was sort of a debate on NL. A milestone has been reached (which isn't that much); but how many (compared to the overall population) are aware of these malpractices to avoid them?

Forget about the post or anything automotive related. Think about the principles behind repeating errors and passing it as truth. It becomes a mountain after a period of steady non-oppositions that sorting the truth from such becomes a monumental task.

Lastly, interpret from context not emotions.

@Trac am very much open to criticism but not unbridled arrogance....I will advise you to address texts n contexts not personalities. In my profession criticisms are very much welcome! Live one's not E-criticisms.

yungboss:
easy easy, bro. Everything but insult is permissible!

ziccoit:

Guy pls soft soft. I want to think @Trac didn't mean to insult or pull you down. He was only attacking the content of the write up in a manner full of strong disagreements. Pls, sheath the sword and let us move on.

A lot of people do not understand why the blogosphere was created. Many don't give thoughts to why technology is cheap as of today. How can one defend a catalogue of information and then become virulent when criticised?!

The blunt truth is that crude information is not on the internet but general information. Nobody would put information that he/she paid thousands for on the internet free. In the United States, information (not the common) is termed as property. People are protective about it. A blogger is not a journalist. Journalists went to school and earned a degree from an accredited university and had the universities blessings bestowed on them. In addition to that, they are certain laws that immune them to safely put in prints unbiased press. There are journalistic ethics that causes them to probe their information to scrutinise as much truth as they possibly can. However, certain misinformation slips through the cracks and accepted as mainstream. For instance in automotive, 0 to 60, BMW's 50/50 weight distributions, ultimate driving machine, "performance upgrades" and so on. Though wrong, some slack can be given on the leash for they did not specialise in the science of ground vehicles. This is not to say that these standards should be upheld and repeated. The list is endless and has now become the norm that correcting it may become controversial. Despite the mistakes, it is completely understandable and the idea/context is still conveyed. A blogger on the other hand does not meet up to the standards previously stated. Anything goes! There is no cost associated to blogging. Anyone is qualified. This is what makes a sizable portion of the internet's pie-chart. Sadly, a lot of people became knowledgeable through blogs, then the repetitions without probe. The cycle continues.

Hi guys, I presently use a pilot which I intend dropping pretty soon for a German car. I've been gravitating btw choosing a bmw 3 series & an Audi a4 but a lot of people have warned me off them even online forums. My mechanic would have slapped me if he had the chance to when I told him. He adviced that I get a benz if at all I even want to go german, that a mercedes will last almost "forever"
Now I'm checking out the 1998 c43 AMG, I want to know of its availability & price in Nigeria and also the maintenance wahala I have to watch out for. Thanks a lot.

The mercedes c43 AMG

Trac can give you a great review as he is quite knowledgeable about MB's provided he can [s]curtail his arrogance and advice from the reader's perspective.[/s]

talktimi: Hi guys, I presently use a pilot which I intend dropping pretty soon for a German car. I've been gravitating btw choosing a bmw 3 series & an Audi a4 but a lot of people have warned me off them even online forums. My mechanic would have slapped me if he had the chance to when I told him. He adviced that I get a benz if at all I even want to go german, that a mercedes will last almost "forever"
Now I'm checking out the 1998 c43 AMG, I want to know of its availability & price in Nigeria and also the maintenance wahala I have to watch out for. Thanks a lot.

smartchoice: @Trac am very much open to criticism but not unbridled arrogance....I will advise you to address texts n contexts not personalities. In my profession criticisms are very much welcome! Live one's not E-criticisms.

Where is the arrogance? Term a spade a spade and not a shovel. What is context and personalities? You are getting offended and personal because you were addressed upon an error.

Or your ego was bothered?

I doubt criticisms are welcomed as you claimed. You've done all the name-calling and so on (after the fact), yet you claim criticisms are welcome in your career.

Re-examine all that I have written and set aside what is wrong and what is right.

I will make no further discussions (whatsoever) on this with you. Striving is not me; I simply just "conclude-upon" and move on.

Trac oh Trac: Life goes on, but that does not mean I can't still consult you o!

Trac:

Where is the arrogance? Term a spade a spade and not a shovel. What is context and personalities? You are getting offended and personal because you were addressed upon an error.

Or your ego was bothered?

I doubt criticisms are welcomed as you claimed. You've done all the name-calling and so on (after the fact), yet you claim criticisms are welcome in your career.

Re-examine all that I have written and set aside what is wrong and what is right.

I will make no further discussions (whatsoever) on this with you. Striving is not me; I simply just "conclude-upon" and move on.

Trac and Smartchoice abeg when you guys finish una comedy pls help me out in my inquiry.

talktimi: Trac and Smartchoice abeg when you guys finish una comedy pls help me out in my inquiry.

thinking of the c43 dis link myt giv a prelim idea
https://www.nairaland.com/1121481
on german car
https://www.nairaland.com/1206367

better still start a new thread more people will see it and comment, u wont be derailing this thread, ...
GOOD LUCK

abdulkadir:

thinking of the c43 dis link myt giv a prelim idea
https://www.nairaland.com/1121481
on german car
https://www.nairaland.com/1206367

better still start a new thread more people will see it and comment, u wont be derailing this thread, ...
GOOD LUCK

thanks bro, sorry for derailing the thread.

talktimi: thanks bro, sorry for derailing the thread.

you are welcome. I am sure its not your intention to derail the thread. Pls keep the house informed a lot of experience and knowledge will be shared.

smartchoice: Trac oh Trac: Life goes on, but that does not mean I can't still consult you o!

I have overlooked the whole thing; contrary to how you perceive me, I am a quiet person. However, I would appreciate the moral of the interaction be held as a principle. The car "thingy" is trivial.

talktimi: Trac and Smartchoice abeg when you guys finish una comedy pls help me out in my inquiry.

AbdulK has beaten me to what I was going to make as a response. I believe I have addressed it twice and one was in detail. As the fellow has stated, if you decide to bring up a thread, make reference from this thread and everyone would chip-in.

Trac:

Look for Behr. Wahler is not what you want in there. Undependable and you wouldn't know when it fails except it crosses your attention that something is not quite normal.

I've addressed this previously. The nairalander found it at all cost.

I don't know anything about the 180 engine variants but ensure that the thermostat temp reading is right (that is the degrees). If you are unsure, check your owners manual. If you don't have it, let me know.

Trac, you couldn't have looked for it more than i did, but to no avail. Besides, i couldn't do without a thermostat, read my comment above.However, i'll really appreciate if you can get me the owners manual for the w202 c180, thanks.

au.hanson:


Trac, you couldn't have looked for it more than i did, but to no avail. Besides, i couldn't do without a thermostat, read my comment above.

i dont get it did Trac say anything wrong?

abdulkadir:

i dont get it did Trac say anything wrong?

Nop! what makes u think that way? You thought i was angry? not at all ,emphasy here is pointed to my search frustration for the damn thing that so badly needed at the time

talktimi: The mercedes c43 AMG

This must be a power machine, a thirsty one too

au.hanson:


This must be a power machine, a thirsty one too

definitely thirsty, quoted at 16cty/21hwy which is fair to me. Just curious about its availability & pricing in Nigeria.

talktimi: definitely thirsty, quoted at 16cty/21hwy which is fair to me. Just curious about its availability & pricing in Nigeria.

i doubt whether you'll find one to purchase in Nigeria. You mayhave to look to ordering it from overseas, which would be sure expensive, maintenance is another thing. Its an AMG v8 engine, a c class. I dont know what other models it shares its parts with, definetely not the clk 430...Trac will know better though..

talktimi: definitely thirsty, quoted at 16cty/21hwy which is fair to me. Just curious about its availability & pricing in Nigeria.

did you find anything useful on those links.
have made up your mind on c43. Its a beautiful ride.

au.hanson:


Nop! what makes u think that way? You thought i was angry? not at all ,emphasy here is pointed to my search frustration for the damn thing that so badly needed at the time

oh! So i thot. Sorry for misunderstandin you. Ikenna sometyms ago changed his but dont know whch brand a frend of his in d US recomended nd got it for him. He could help.
even tho d guy na LION!

abdulkadir:

did you find anything useful on those links.
have made up your mind on c43. Its a beautiful ride.

only rave reviews so far, someone said its "built like a tank" I've also come across "built to last forever" and relatively cheap parts can be gotten online. This particular model was from 1998 - 2000 and has been described as one of the last hand built AMGs. There are other fancier more beautiful specs of mercedes in the market especially after 2000 but if you prefer ruggedity, this is the car for you as well as other C class series of the 90s.

talktimi: only rave reviews so far, someone said its "built like a tank" I've also come across "built to last forever" and relatively cheap parts can be gotten online. This particular model was from 1998 - 2000 and has been described as one of the last hand built AMGs. There are other fancier more beautiful specs of mercedes in the market especially after 2000 but if you prefer ruggedity, this is the car for you as well as other C class series of the 90s.

they say its next to w124 e500. May be they share some similarities in terms of maintainance, not in terms of price but ease of maitanance. Getting a decent mechanic myt be more of the challenge. Mercedes part are readily available even for much older models, so getting replacement part wouldnt be much of an issue.
again pls lets start a thread on d C43. We would definately get useful inputs. NLanders a very resourceful.

talktimi: only rave reviews so far, someone said its "built like a tank" I've also come across "built to last forever" and relatively cheap parts can be gotten online. This particular model was from 1998 - 2000 and has been described as one of the last hand built AMGs. There are other fancier more beautiful specs of mercedes in the market especially after 2000 but if you prefer ruggedity, this is the car for you as well as other C class series of the 90s.

Always critique! Always! There is nothing wrong to logically critique anything or subject "quote." People may get offended - you might appear silly for the moment but it won't be an easy game getting you fooled if the intentions were so.

1st critique: how in the world do you relatively get cheap parts online for any AMG? Sure enough puzzling. The parts are expensive and can only be bought through AMG (Mercedes). The "untouched" components can be replaced with the standard C Class parts.

2nd critique: they are relatively few AMG's per model (especially for the model generation of interest). When you get to these "so-called" forums, most claim to have AMG's; how? For example: the 2001 E55 was the lowest in production of over 900 models from factory. My point exactly is that you can't just trust anything you read. Many don't own these AMG cars. These so-called subscribers create problems in those environments; many are still teenagers and DON'T own cars. They talk about how fast and how passionate they are plus ridiculous modifications. They flock around the special models of vehicles.

3rd critique: why do you think nobody wants them? I'll let you answer that.

The model is a special model and it's natural (primary) habitat is on a close-circuit. It is a tuned vehicle and will require "tuned" maintenance and expensive ones for that matter. It is not for everyone. The maintenance intervals are shortest compared to the others. That is to keep it in its optimum condition.

Going straight to the point: it is uneasy getting one. There are also "fake" ones as well. Shopping for a Mercedes of that generation is not really an easy task. You can imagine when it is an AMG-tuned model. Nobody gives up their Mercs as you perceive (except the new ones).

Above all, the fuel to fill the vehicle is not sold in Nigeria. It requires super-unleaded. This goes for any MB from the United States. You won't be getting the stated mileage that you referenced on super-unleaded. How much more Nigerian fuel that is lower in octane and also has a higher ethanol content.

Extreme caution is always used when purchasing any tuned vehicle (all). This is always a rule.

Coming from a Pilot and making alternatives like A4, 3 Series and C43 gives off a lot of details. It is evident that you stick to a normal vehicle solely for street-use. No tuned cars or hot-rods. They are meant for performance/drive enthusiasts and they require some knowledge that are not necessary relevant to normal vehicles to maintain and operate at certain limits (especially when modifications have been done).

abdulkadir:

they say its next to w124 e500. May be they share some similarities in terms of maintainance, not in terms of price but ease of maitanance. Getting a decent mechanic myt be more of the challenge. Mercedes part are readily available even for much older models, so getting replacement part wouldnt be much of an issue.
again pls lets start a thread on d C43. We would definately get useful inputs. NLanders a very resourceful.

I meant the cornering attitude under velocity in a close-circuit. It's a C Class and traveling C-Class is not traveling E-Class. C43 has a firm ride and it is not comfortable. Both cars (500 limited and C43) are not in any way of ease in maintenance. 500 limited is really a very expensive car to maintain. The parts are very expensive and unique to the vehicle. It was built that way and it is a limited edition vehicle.

Mercedes parts are not truly available for the older vehicles. It is becoming harder to get some of them and the prices are going up. They aren't manufacturing anymore. If you are getting after-market, that's another issue entirely. However, after-market for AMG's and 500 limited is ridiculous (that's if you find). The biggest challenge is finding a good vehicle.

yungboss:
i doubt whether you'll find one to purchase in Nigeria. You mayhave to look to ordering it from overseas, which would be sure expensive, maintenance is another thing. Its an AMG v8 engine, a c class. I dont know what other models it shares its parts with, definetely not the clk 430...Trac will know better though..

You are getting the Aufrecht parts. AMG is AMG where it matters. I need not tell you who should work on it (you've figured that out already). The cost for rotors is another. It only uses AMG brakes and it is a very unique piece of construction (for lack of a better term). You replace them every year or over. $600 for the front on the E Classes. I was in Nigeria a few years ago and a neighbour the next street from my parents home had an AMG. It was not well-taken care of and was visually a mess. The exhaust tubes spoke volumes as well. I told my dad that someone bought a wrong Benz and the state thereof is the result.

abdulkadir:

i dont get it did Trac say anything wrong?

I was only cautioning him. The brand he bought is unreliable and undependable. Mercedes no longer uses them.

au.hanson:


Trac, you couldn't have looked for it more than i did, but to no avail. Besides, i couldn't do without a thermostat, read my comment above.However, i'll really appreciate if you can get me the owners manual for the w202 c180, thanks.

My recommendation is that you find another brand if you can't get Behr. A Japanese brand is also good (at least for the nature of work). Just don't use an American part.

I don't have the manual for your car. Kuntash has a soft-copy (I believe).

@ Trac i know d 500 isnt easy to maintain so d c43 wouldnt be easy as well. I didnt mean they are easy to maintain.
I dont know where talktimi intend to source his cheap parts and dont know how wrong he is so i didnt criticise him.
thanks for correcting the impression i had that older model parts are readily available.
@ Talktimi, the ball is i your court. c43 is
Sure a great car but using it comes with a price.

how easily will he find a good C43, its a very rare car and from what i understand not many were even produced. I have dropped the idea of looking for an e36 m3, because of my concern of genuine servicing when the need arises. E500, c43, bmw m3, m5 etc would cost a fortune to maintain in Nigeria.

abdulkadir: @ Trac i know d 500 isnt easy to maintain so d c43 wouldnt be easy as well. I didnt mean they are easy to maintain.
I dont know where talktimi intend to source his cheap parts and dont know how wrong he is so i didnt criticise him.
thanks for correcting the impression i had that older model parts are readily available.
@ Talktimi, the ball is i your court. c43 is
Sure a great car but using it comes with a price.

I use edmunds.com for majority of my car reviews and concentrate mainly on the reviews made by consumers because they are the ones who use the cars for an extended period but I needed inputs from Nigerian users that's why I earlier asked on this thread for anyone who had an idea of the c43's availability in Nigeria and its ease of maintenance. I'm a sucker for powerful cars and that is why I don't rate my pilot highly at all since its too sluggish for my liking its good someone as enlightened as trac is online here because I could have gone ahead to ship the car in if not available in Nigeria but as it stands, I'll get a variant easier to maintain within c200 & 220 then work on enhancements. That's the good thing about benzos, they're enhancement friendly.

talktimi: I use edmunds.com for majority of my car reviews and concentrate mainly on the reviews made by consumers because they are the ones who use the cars for an extended period but I needed inputs from Nigerian users that's why I earlier asked on this thread for anyone who had an idea of the c43's availability in Nigeria and its ease of maintenance. I'm a sucker for powerful cars and that is why I don't rate my pilot highly at all since its too sluggish for my liking its good someone as enlightened as trac is online here because I could have gone ahead to ship the car in if not available in Nigeria but as it stands, I'll get a variant easier to maintain within c200 & 220 then work on enhancements. That's the good thing about benzos, they're enhancement friendly.

I would go for c280 instead. The car is highly powered and got a good review. Find users review in carsurvey:

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/mercedes-benz/c-class/

To me, the c200 & c220 will be too underpowered for my liking. Even reviews from users in carsurvey stated so. I see a lot of c280 here on Abuja roads. If repairing them is that difficult, i wouldnt be seeing them that much on the road.

Ikenna.

Ikenna351:

I would go for c280 instead. The car is highly powered and got a good review. Find users review in carsurvey:

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/mercedes-benz/c-class/

To me, the c200 & c220 will be too underpowered for my liking. Even reviews from users in carsurvey stated so. I see a lot of c280 here on Abuja roads. If repairing them is that difficult, i wouldnt be seeing them that much on the road.

Ikenna.

your right Ikenna. I wouldn't like to own another c220 after my first experience with it. The car was 'slow' and this i didn't find comfortable, handling was good but was a huge task sending power to the wheels. I would go for a clk 430 (not a practical car though but i do not mind), an '07/'08 c350 or a c280 (but i'm scared of the w202s considering potential age-related wire harness issues).

Ikenna351:

I would go for c280 instead. The car is highly powered and got a good review. Find users review in carsurvey:

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/mercedes-benz/c-class/

To me, the c200 & c220 will be too underpowered for my liking. Even reviews from users in carsurvey stated so. I see a lot of c280 here on Abuja roads. If repairing them is that difficult, i wouldnt be seeing them that much on the road.

Ikenna.

you are right ikenna & Youngboss. Let me add that the v6 which came later has slightly more hp than the inline 6 Which was in ealier versions.(4hp more i think) and better mpg was achieved; if it matters.
If you dont mind the super charged(kompressor) d 230 thay say achieves 194hp just as d v6.

abdulkadir: @ Trac i know d 500 isnt easy to maintain so d c43 wouldnt be easy as well. I didnt mean they are easy to maintain.
I dont know where talktimi intend to source his cheap parts and dont know how wrong he is so i didnt criticise him.
thanks for correcting the impression i had that older model parts are readily available.
@ Talktimi, the ball is i your court. c43 is
Sure a great car but using it comes with a price.

I was trying to emphasise that 500 Limited is more expensive in parts than the AMG E Classes that came afterwards. The C43 is cheaper to maintain than the 500 but some cannot justify the Aufrecht costs but it is still illogical to many. This references are for the purpose of the sub-discussion that popped in this thread. However, on a performance scale, the prices are expected and justifiable. The C43 is not a car for the Nigerian setting. This is not an opinion; it is a fact. The roads, the fuel, the service person to administer repairs and parts availability.

Low volume limited production vehicles are not the only options.

yungboss: how easily will he find a good C43, its a very rare car and from what i understand not many were even produced. I have dropped the idea of looking for an e36 m3, because of my concern of genuine servicing when the need arises. E500, c43, bmw m3, m5 etc would cost a fortune to maintain in Nigeria.

This is the biggest hurdle. People don't part with their pre-war and post-war Mercs. It is rare to find them in dealerships for sale except those in questionable conditions. Those aren't many also. I have stated somewhere on this thread to the motion that nobody would sell a well maintained Mercedes Benz at book value. You do not source for a well maintained MB and expect to pay the book value for it. You are being unpractical.

talktimi: I use edmunds.com for majority of my car reviews and concentrate mainly on the reviews made by consumers because they are the ones who use the cars for an extended period but I needed inputs from Nigerian users that's why I earlier asked on this thread for anyone who had an idea of the c43's availability in Nigeria and its ease of maintenance. I'm a sucker for powerful cars and that is why I don't rate my pilot highly at all since its too sluggish for my liking its good someone as enlightened as trac is online here because I could have gone ahead to ship the car in if not available in Nigeria but as it stands, I'll get a variant easier to maintain within c200 & 220 then work on enhancements. That's the good thing about benzos, they're enhancement friendly.

You should take the reviews with a grain of salt. The same goes to the user review sections too. A friend of mine told me that these editors are paid. I don't know to what level it is true but he was credible for the information. Those that will rate it poorly rarely state how well they maintain their vehicles. The trouble is what's genuine and what isn't genuine will not be able to be separated; unless you know someone that works for that auto-company or franchises the auto-brand or works on them. The information should be taken with a grain of salt.

The Pilot is a truck. It has a measure of hauling capabilities also (I should hope). My friend owns one along with an M Class and he enjoys his Pilot. He bought it to ship to Nigeria and sell but eventually got fond of it.

I will advice you as well as the other interested. You never buy any of those hybrid cars through the internet, mass classified ads or roadside. You go in person and examine it with a person that knowledgeable about them. It is not uncommon to travel by plane to several States away to look up an AMG or M3's. If it is good, the money is paid upfront upon negotiation and driven back. To buy such from a dealership is not good practice also.

Never modify a Mercedes. You cannot improve it. Anything to it is a downgrade. The build quality is good and the parts are German grade.

Examine economical factors when purchasing your next vehicle. Nevertheless, before you buy any car, make sure you have a mechanic to service what your choice would be. Don't purchase a vehicle in hopes to be carrying out your own repairs. Also all Benzes should pull at higher speeds. I will not recommend the 180 types (if you will have people once in a while ride with you).

Do not get me wrong - AMG's are good. This is not to say that it cannot be owned in Nigeria. It can! The model you are talking about in question is more of a circuit model than the others. If you were into performance, then my responses to you would have been different. There is a Nairalander that owns a turbocharged 190E and inquired about a C Class. He had owned it for a while and was considering upgrading; not because of performance but something newer. He has a mechanic that works on that vehicle. I went into details on all the options including the AMG series with him and the drawbacks.

Ikenna351:

I would go for c280 instead. The car is highly powered and got a good review. Find users review in carsurvey:

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/mercedes-benz/c-class/

To me, the c200 & c220 will be too underpowered for my liking. Even reviews from users in carsurvey stated so. I see a lot of c280 here on Abuja roads. If repairing them is that difficult, i wouldnt be seeing them that much on the road.

Ikenna.

The 200 and the 220 is not underpowered. It powered the E Classes and the heavy G200's. Nobody will pay so much money for an expensive slow vehicle at new. You don't know the state of health of the cars that belong to the reviewers. Someone stated that the interior quality was poor. This should be questionable because some of the C Class components were put into the S Class of that era.

yungboss:
your right Ikenna. I wouldn't like to own another c220 after my first experience with it. The car was 'slow' and this i didn't find comfortable, handling was good but was a huge task sending power to the wheels. I would go for a clk 430 (not a practical car though but i do not mind), an '07/'08 c350 or a c280 (but i'm scared of the w202s considering potential age-related wire harness issues).

Your vehicle was faulty because that is abnormal. It wasn't engineered like that from factory because it wouldn't have been sold at the premium price is commanded when new. That is the result of having an unqualified person work on it. It was not at factory specs but personal or isolated specifications. These cars are highway cruisers and they provide remarkable comforts at high speed with road mannerism. Your experience is also not a Mercedes trait at old age. It was built to run like new all its life. This is not a cliche. The engine has been over-engineered for that task. You should be able to get to 130MPH on the 220 progressively once in the power band and remain that way as long as you want it. The wiring harness issue was for only two or three years. This was German law regulation and affected all cars in production for those periods. MB's are still on the road; this is why you hear harness issues. If you find a good vehicle within the affected years, make your own harness. Give it to a qualified person to do so. It should not cost you much.

abdulkadir:

you are right ikenna & Youngboss. Let me add that the v6 which came later has slightly more hp than the inline 6 Which was in ealier versions.(4hp more i think) and better mpg was achieved; if it matters.
If you dont mind the super charged(kompressor) d 230 thay say achieves 194hp just as d v6.

The V6 is not faster than the inline 6 that left. It also wasn't a better engine. It however had more miles per gallon but there reasons for that. The technology was an all new V8 but the inline had been a developmental iteration for decades and was terminated.

Trac:
I was only cautioning him. The brand he bought is unreliable and undependable. Mercedes no longer uses them.

My recommendation is that you find another brand if you can't get Behr. A Japanese brand is also good (at least for the nature of work). Just don't use an American part.

Ok! thanks Trace, you didn't give me this part, the Japanese brand? Can you be a bit specific, atleast that will leave me with some options? I got that one to keep me going while still on the look for i supposed reliable but affordable one within my shore..Though, the dealer who gave me the 'whaler' really assured me of it, and its been very wonderful since then, though still on the look for Behr or the alternative Japanese model for a keep as spare should the whaler fail.

Trac:

I don't have the manual for your car. Kuntash has a soft-copy (I believe).

Kuntash has given me the c280 which i very much appreciate. However, i was banging hope on you(as you stated, cos i believe you) for the c180 that is specific to my model. There are some detail issues(what others would consider insignificant) i need to resolve using it, things that are normally overlooked, but i want everything almost perfect if possible.. when i finish solving these items i'll let you know. I don't know if i can still bang on you for the w202 c180 manual?