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BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by karlmax2: 7:47am On Nov 05, 2012
LAGOS—The Federal Government said, yesterday, that it will not negotiate with Islamic sect, Boko Haram under conditions, even as mixed reactions have trailed the declaration by the sect of its readiness for dialogue to end series of suicide bomb attacks in many parts of the north.

While some urged government to go ahead with the dialogue, others cautioned against the idea saying it would be counter-productive. However, the Presidency said it would discuss with the group without preconditions as demanded by the sect.



This came as the group denied killing General Mohammed Shuwa and others who were killed in Maiduguri, weekend.

Among those who okayed dialogue with Boko Haram are House of Representatives Speaker, Hon Aminu Tambuwal; Second Republic Governor of old Kaduna State, Alhaji Balarabe Musa; Member of the House of Representatives, Mr. Daniel Reyenieju; Arewa Youths and Founder of the Oodua Peoples Congress, OPC, Dr. Frederick Fasehun, who however, cautioned President Goodluck Jonathan against involving former Military Head of State and Presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), General Buhari in the negotiation.

Those opposed to the move include Second Republic Governor of Plateau State, Chief Solomon Lar and National Leader of National Action Council, NAC, Dr Olopade Agoro.

We’ve had enough of bloodshed – Tambuwal

Speaking with newsmen at the funeral ceremony of father-in-law of the member representing Esan North East/Esan South East of Edo State, Mr Fridai Itulah, at Uromi, Speaker Tambuwal said government should not hesitate to go for the talks, if that would bring peace.

Said Tambuwal, who insisted that the outcome of the constitutional review by the National Assembly would not be subjected to a referendum, because a referendum is unconstitutional: “I will encourage our leadership to engage the leaders of the sect (Boko Haram) in the dialogue; if that will bring peace, we should go for it.

We have had more than enough bloodshed of innocent Nigerians and government should do everything possible, including dialogue with Boko Haram, to bring this to an end.”

He said the decision of the leadership of Congress for Progressive Change to reject proposal by Boko Haram appointing its presidential candidate in the last election, General Muhammadu Buhari, as the sect’s representative in the proposed dialogue with the Federal Government, should be that of the retired Army General and not the party.

It’s wrong to talk with faceless people – Lar

However, pioneer National Chairman of the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP), Chief Solomon Lar, opposed the move, saying it was wrong to negotiate with a violent group, whose leaders are still anonymous

Fielding questions from reporters in Kaduna, Lar said: “I disagree completely to dialogue with Boko Haram, unless they show their identity that Mr. X, Y, Z is Boko Haram and this is his rank. For them to name some people to be their representatives, who are they? They are faceless people, let them come out and reveal their identity. It is not enough for the sect members to nominate some people to negotiate on their behalf . Let us know who is who among them. Let them come out in the open and identify themselves rather than being faceless.

“Again, has Mohammadu Buhari , Alhaji Ali Mungonu and others nominated by the sect members agreed to represent them in the dialogue with the Federal Government?

“During the Niger Delta militantancy, some people came out and said they were the leaders of the militants. That was very reasonable and that was how the late President Musa Yar’Adua was able to tackle the problem of militancy in the Niger Delta. The Niger Delta militants were not faceless like Boko Haram. Why didn’t Boko Haram follow the example of the militants by showing their faces?”

We didn’t kill General Shuwa – Boko Haram

However, Boko Haram has denied the killings of Major-General Mamman Shuwa (rtd) and other politicians and elders in Borno State, saying it had no hands in the alleged assassinations in Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.

The denials were made, yesterday, in a tele-conference by the sect’sacclaimed spokesman, Abu Mohammed Abdulaziz with newsmen in Maiduguri.

He said: “People are saying that we have hands in the killing of Major General Shuwa. We don’t have any problem with this elder statesman. He is a responsible person and he had not said anything wrong against Boko Haram Sect.

This is why I am stating clearly that we have no hands in the killing of this man. The same also applies to the killings of Mustapha Flawama, an associate of Senator Modu Ali Sheriff; and other politicians and elders recently in the state.”
Abdulaziz also warned those who allegedly spread the rumours that the Boko Haram sect killed Gen. Mamman Shuwa last Friday at his Gwange residence in Maiduguri.

He reiterated that the six personalities appointed by the Boko Haram to mediate with the Federal Government still stands, insisting that “these are the elder statesmen and personalities that we trust and will become witnesses, in case of any betrayals on the part of government at the state and federal levels.”
He listed the mediators to include Dr Shettima Ali Monguno, Maj-Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, Shiekh Ibrahim Yusuf, Shiekh Ibrahim Salisu, Mamman Nur, Shiekh Abu Abass and himself (Abdulaziz).

Govt to negotiate without preconditions – Presidency

If the Boko Haram sect is genuinely ready for dialogue to end the spate of suicide bomb attacks in many parts of Northern Nigeria, the Federal Government will oblige the group but not with unjust preconditions.

According to Special Adviser to President Goodluck Jonathan on Inter-Party Affairs, Senator Ben Obi, Boko Haram’s demand for the release of their detained members as a precondition for the negotiation is not proper.

Obi, who spoke, weekend, after an award ceremony organised by the Association of Anambra State Development Unions (AASDU) for distinguished Anambra citizens in Apapa, Lagos, said the government had been calling for dialogue and would engage Boko Haram in dialogue if the group was serious about it.

“We have been calling for dialogue. In a situation where you have uprising there is need to jaw-jaw. I think if they are truly and seriously interested in picking dialogue, we should engage them in dialogue.”

Asked if the government would meet some of Boko Haram’s precondition for dialogue like releasing all their members being held in detention, he said: “You don’t place conditions before security agencies. If a man is a criminal and has been arrested for criminality you don’t tell people to release him, it is not their duty. You go to court and let the court release him. But they want to engage in dialogue, yes they should be engaged in dialogue not with any precondition.”

Don’t involve Buhari in mediation – Fasehun

Welcoming the move, OPC Founder, Dr Fredrick Fasehun, however, cautioned President Jonathan against involving Buhari in the negotiation.

Fielding questions from newsmen in Ile-Ife, Osun State during the maiden edition of Ooni of Ife, Oba Okunade Sijuwade annual lecture series organized by the Ife Business School in honour of the Ooni, Fasehun stressed that Buhari could not negotiate on behalf of Nigerians or the Federal Government because the personality of Buhari in the negotiating team would further aggravate the problem in the country.

He said Buhari could not represent the interest of the government and Nigerians well in the committee as he has a grouse with the Federal Government over his defeat by President Goodluck Jonathan in the 2011 presidential election. He opined that the dialogue between the federal government and the sect, if achieved, would bring about peace in the country.

It’s condemnable arm-twist —Agoro

On his part, Dr Olopade Agoro picked holes in the sect asking the Federal Government for a peace parley in Saudi Arabia.

His words: “Mention must be made of the fact that Boko Haram insurgents have continued waging deadly war against Nigeria in the past two years with loss of well over 2000 innocent lives of Muslims, Christians and the uncommitted; thousands more badly injured and or incapacitated and with loss of valuables worth billions of Naira.

“The most pertinent questions therefore to be asked at this stage are: Why was Saudi Arabia the suggested venue and all those mentioned as mediators being Muslims?

Dialogue is necessary – Balarabe Musa

Also speaking, Alhaji Balarabe Musa said a dialogue with the sect would help to solve the problem. He said: “The thing is this, let the dialogue take place so that we can know who the Boko Haram really are and also know what they stand for. Before now, we don’t know anything. We know that there is Boko Haram and that it is an Islamic sect but there is no proof of it. The dialogue will prove that there is an organisation that is aggrieved and that will be a step towards solving the problem. So, the dialogue is absolutely necessary. At the moment now, we have seen unnecessary killings, we don’t know who actually is responsible for that, we don’t know their objectives or grievances. It is a dialogue that will enable us know how to tackle it.”

It’s a welcome devt— Arewa Youths

Concurring, The Arewa Youth Consultative Forum, AYCF described the move as a step in the right direction.

National President of the group, Alhaji Yerima Shetimma said “it is welcome development if only the Federal Government has the political will. We have been calling on government to arrest the former governor of Borno State, since the group was formed.”

Dialogue is necessary– Reyenieju

In like manner, Rep Reyenieju urged the government to explore the ‘dialogue option’ irrespective of the reservations expressed in certain quarters. He said it would amount to act of courage and statesmanship for Mr. President to go for dialogue, adding that wars that were won through dialogue always result into lasting peace


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Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Nobody: 7:54am On Nov 05, 2012
Gej becareful
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by k2039: 7:55am On Nov 05, 2012
JTF,thank you for how far you have dealt with this gorrilas called boko haram.


JTF,please you still need to hit this rebels really hard(load in more bullets into their rotten head)


The only reason they are still talking of negotiation is because they are alive

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Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Nobody: 7:57am On Nov 05, 2012
This is a good one from the government.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Sirniyeh(m): 8:21am On Nov 05, 2012
I want to state categorically that for someone to defend the interest of other, they must have been parley. Chosen Buhari and other to stand for Boko haram means they have something in common, it means they know the mind of the BH. Because what do mediators have to negotiate, how are they going to make conclusion with FG if they never knew the mind of BH. During the negotiation, a lot of questions will be asked by FG which the mediators will have to defend. How are they going to defend the sect if they are not part of it? BH is coward if they refuse to show face. So FG should act wise. FG should not be subjected to unwise dictations of some selfish politicians. If FG negotiation team is wise enough and not traitors as usual, they will capture the mediators by their words...
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Enoquin(f): 8:24am On Nov 05, 2012
I agree with no preconditions before dialogue. None of their members should be released and there should be no payment. Who will pay for the ones they have killed? There is no guarantee that bombing will stop since there are already splinter groups...look at what happened with kidnapping...it lived on after the militants agreed to a truce.
And the FG should also bring forth its own delegates for the negotiation...if they agree to drop their pre-conditions...and let's know who they are...

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Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Okijajuju1(m): 8:34am On Nov 05, 2012
I am not surprised.


THE GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA SHOULD NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS

South-south Militants = MEND!! Amnesty + Cash + Federal Government Contracts..

Northern Islamic Terrorists = BOKO HARAM!! (They want compensation)

Western Alaye Terrorists = (Yet to be formed)

Eastern Biafran Terrorists = (A serious Group is yet to be formed)


The government has really set a bad precedence with MEND!! Now every other militant group would demand the same treatment as MEND!! This makes the Government look weak..

Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by juman(m): 8:37am On Nov 05, 2012
Fake news. Hiss.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by DJDOLA(m): 8:43am On Nov 05, 2012
I thought. They have arest bokoharam leaders and what are d bokoharam members still waitin for u guys should drop ur wepon and surender let leave as one. Nigeria
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by stacomaster(m): 8:44am On Nov 05, 2012
BH R TIRED GOVT. SHOULD NT DIALOGUE WITH EM
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 05, 2012
Never ever negotiate with terrorists

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Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by hardbody: 8:51am On Nov 05, 2012
2buff: Never ever negotiate with terrorists

My exact view on this matter.

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Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by codeline(m): 8:57am On Nov 05, 2012
shocked
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by codeline(m): 8:58am On Nov 05, 2012
....

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Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by optimistD(m): 8:59am On Nov 05, 2012
juman: Fake news. Hiss.
who told it's fake? ok, where is the original one?
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Quincy37(m): 9:00am On Nov 05, 2012
embarassed there should be no negotiation, when boko haram sect group were called for dialogue they refused because they believed then that the show is theirs. The show is now ours lets see where it leads! JTF God bless you all for taking charge, FG no negotiation, innocent Nigerians cannot die invane for one nonesense terrorist group achieve its objectives! I repeat no negotiation with terrorist.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Dodfather(m): 9:01am On Nov 05, 2012
No rightminded govt negotiates with terrorist let alone allowing the sect to nominate the moderators.
if GEJ gives in to this,it will serve as impetus for other sect to terrorise the nation with the hope of round table discussion eventually.
negotiating with BH will only worsen the situation on ground.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by optimistD(m): 9:06am On Nov 05, 2012
This negotiation should be in Nigeria and not in any of the northern states. Bastards. besides, you can not represent who you do not know, talking about the boko haram representatives. I feel they are members
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by juman(m): 9:06am On Nov 05, 2012
optimist D: who told it's fake? ok, where is the original one?

Federal government is the one making the news.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Nobody: 9:08am On Nov 05, 2012
Our govt don dey get liver.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by deletrue: 9:09am On Nov 05, 2012
JTF and indeed all the armed forces, thank you very much for your performance so far. Please nothing should make you to think twice on the way you are dealing with this evil group. Just forget Transparency International. Am sure it is also a yeye group. May God protect you as you engage this faceless group, boko. Am sure you are now winning the war. Water dey pass garri against the boko.
Am very sure too that boko is fully responsible for the death of the general. They are just refusing. Thank you, chief of army staff. Deal with them.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by juman(m): 9:10am On Nov 05, 2012
deletrue: JTF and indeed all the armed forces, thank you very much for your performance so far. Please nothing should make you to think twice on the way you are dealing with this evil group. Just forget Transparency International. Am sure it is also a yeye group. May God protect you as you engage this faceless group, boko. Am sure you are now winning the war. Water dey pass garri against the boko.
Am very sure too that boko is fully responsible for the death of the general. They are just refusing. Thank you, chief of army staff. Deal with them.

grin grin
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by ukuba: 9:12am On Nov 05, 2012
now the government has grown some balls
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by cheddarking(m): 9:16am On Nov 05, 2012
If I were Jonathan,

I would double and treble all efforts at bringing Boko down

More Raids

More Killings

More Attacks

I would hunt them in the cities, in their villages, in their beds...

For the next 6 months...

Then we can Negotiate

Now is the the time for GEJ to prove himself as the Grand Commander of the Nigerian Armed Forces

Now is the time for GEJ to show he is a strong leader

I hope he doesnt fucck up this chance, because this is a Political Gift to him
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by akpumping7720(m): 9:17am On Nov 05, 2012
But what do these people really want? Are they mad or what.
The Niger-Delta were fighting for their rights and they were compensated, that is right, we drilled oil 4rum their lands and there wil always be spills which wil have effects on their livelihood and such needs 2 be compensated. But i dnt understand why Boko Harams ave 2 be compensated. I guess Buhari is their leader and i guess the largesse of the compensation goes 2 Buhari 2 make up 4 his loss during d last election, he is broke afta spending a lot on campaing and rallies, and these people only hear go, they don't hear come, i curse Lord Lugard again in his grave 4 bringing us 2gether wit dis Northerners.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by juman(m): 9:20am On Nov 05, 2012
cheddarking: If I were Jonathan,

I would double and treble all efforts at bringing Boko down

More Raids

More Killings

More Attacks

I would hunt them in the cities, in their villages, in their beds...

For the next 6 months...

Then we can Negotiate

Now is the the time for GEJ to prove himself as the Grand Commander of the Nigerian Armed Forces

Now is the time for GEJ to show he is a strong leader

I hope he doesnt fucck up this chance, because this is a Political Gift to him

The northern leaders also need to do a lot to stop the mess.
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Ikwerefistson: 9:22am On Nov 05, 2012
Ds hausa cowards re nt 2be trustd.dy hav comitd treasn aganst fg nd dy re gven us conditn b4 dy negotiate nd dia ugly faces hiden.no way.if dy re nt dancng wit our conditn let dm go bk 2d trench let jtf hit dm more hardr nt mindng who is moving let transpiracy intl go nd tel god 4 heavn. Animals
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by cheddarking(m): 9:27am On Nov 05, 2012
juman:

The northern leaders also need to do a lot to stop the mess.

Forget the Nothern 'Leaders'

They are also in on this game...

If GEJ plays this right...

He just might be able to make scapegoats of these Nothern Trouble-Making Leaders afterall

Like I said, this is a massive political gift...But can he take advantage of it?

Over to you, Mister GEJ
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by ignis: 9:43am On Nov 05, 2012
jammyng: Our govt don dey get liver.
Na today?
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by omenziate(m): 9:43am On Nov 05, 2012
Thought Ayatollah Buhari said he was not included among the list of mediators. What do we have here again? GEJ, in as much as u are impuissant, do not heed to dose Northern scoundrels advice, they are all part of dis carnage. Double JTF armors, give dem incentives and give dem orders to smoke out any rascal dat moves up north.

Why are all the mediators Muslims by the way?
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by shizzle11(m): 10:34am On Nov 05, 2012
Imagine useless Bh giving laughable conditions for negotiation. JTF should please clamp down mercilessly on these idiaats. Those in detention should face the firing squad withouy further ado. Those useless terrorists and their sponsors are worthless creatures who deserves to be wiped off the surface of the earth. Useless things!
Re: BOKO HARAM: We Won’t Negotiate Under Conditions – FG by Callotti: 10:44am On Nov 05, 2012
Sounding like the usual broken record. . . .

Mu che che che che che che

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