Femmymata2: Well, as an atheist i don't believe satan exist. I don't know why satan does not reveal himself, do we need faith to believe satan too. I don't understand how this part of the world is obsessed with the jewish culture and religion.. Its really bizarre to me

advocate666:

That's the beauty of Satanism as compared to godliness. You don't even need to believe in Him. He is very happy that you are an atheist because you are on the right path to knowledge. Stay strong.

Femmymata2:
I don't really care about God or satan's happiness. If u feel athiesm=satanism,well its ur opinion. Athiesm removes the idea that someone who is in another religion apart from mine is wrong,unfortunate,infidel or going to hell.

advocate666:

And you shouldn't. What is most important is your own happiness. Put yourself first. You are on the right path sister. More grease to your elbows.

advocate666:

No man. I did not contradict my Master. Neither did He lie as you guys accuse him of.

It is like if a doctor wants to inject you and you told the doctor that you heard that that type of injection kills people and the doctor tell you that i'ts a lie, that you won't die. Will you say that the doctor promised you everlasting life?

Nowhere in Genesis did god promise eve everlasting life. He said they will die if they eat it. NOT they will live forever unless they eat it.

truthislight:



Was Adam supposed to die had he not eaten the fruit? No.

advocate666:

I thought your point of asking the question was to determine if I was a real or fake Satanist. LOL

Anyway, Satanism starts first and foremost with the rejection of ignorance. Reducing Satanism to a "do as you please" philosophy is a myopic view. "Do as you please" is one of the consequences of Satanism. Pleasure is a gift from Satan. You need knowledge first help you find that which gives you pleasure.
Adam and Eve had inside of them the existence of pleasure of sleeping with each other but they did know know it. The knowledge came after they had obeyed Satan, acquired and ate the fruit of knowledge. So you see, their sexual pleasure was a consequence of their Satanism, not the ultimate authority.

advocate666:

How did you come about this conclusion?

truthislight:

Note ,

the word was: "the day you eat from the fruit you will surely(positively) die"

so, if he had continued without eating the fruit he will not had died.

Again, :

the word was:

"have in subjection the fish, birds, and animal and "SUBDUE" it" note, "subdue"

Adam was to perpetually subdue (control) all creation, will he continue to control all of creation at death? No.

He was to stay alive to be able to subdue them continually.

Since man dies, that is why the word "subdue" was not repeated to Noah after the flood though almost all the statement directed at Adam was repeated to him, but the word "subdue" was removed since Noah will not live forever like Adam was supposed to have lived.

So,
Adam was supposed to live forever had he not disobeyed.

bigd4050: I didn't read the entire thread, so many someone can explain this to me.

I am a Christian, and I am confused about what the point of this thread is. From a Christian standpoint, yes, anyone who does not love and serve God is against God, technically making them a satanist. But what good does knowing that do?

Are you guys going to start calling atheists satanists to make them feel bad or something? They don't believe in God or Satan, so what is the purpose?

Call them atheists, that is what they are. Or are we going to start calling Buddhists, Hindus, and anyone else who doesn't believe in God a satanist too?

advocate666:

You should have read the thread first.

bigd4050:

Forgive me for not reading over 100 separate posts. I read enough, and you didn't really respond to anything that I said. So maybe you should start there.

advocate666:

So if I tell you that the day you drink poison you will surely die, you will understand that to mean that you will live forever until you drink poison?

As you claim to know even that which your god did not say, tell me, if Adam and Eve hadn't eaten that fruit and multipled as god told them, would their offsprings die or will the non-death gene be transfered to everybody?

advocate666:

So if I tell you that the day you drink poison you will surely die, you will understand that to mean that you will live forever until you drink poison?

advocate666:

So if I tell you that the day you drink poison you will surely die, you will understand that to mean that you will live forever until you drink poison?

As you claim to know even that which your god did not say, tell me, if Adam and Eve hadn't eaten that fruit and multipled as god told them, would their offsprings die or will the non-death gene be transfered to everybody?

truthislight:




you question is in the context that we have come to know death.

If Adam had not eating the fruit he will not had died.

It is the opposite of what happened in eden that is promise in Rev. 21:1-4 : and death will be no more.

Of course their spring will not have been dying, since they will not have inherited a condition of sin that causes a separation from God the source of life that resulted in death.

Romans 5:12 : "just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin because we had all sin"

so, without the disobedience by Adam we would not be dying soda

advocate666:

Hehe. So the world would be full of extremely old people today. Even you, with your IQ, should know that it makes no sense.

Femmymata2: Probably they wouldn't age/get old at all. You know!! When a man gets to like 40yr old he just stops growing. The jews can't be blamed for having their creation story,myths,war history,migration e.t.c At least yoruba has it own too. But the problem is with those that believe such absurd stories Oduduwa,adam/eve,flooding of the whole earth despite noah warning earth inhabitants

true?:


If I was a creature from another world, I would not come to this planet. You people are so far behind normal reasoning, You talk of high thinking. You are like worms. Look at your own hands…don’t you see a greater power in anything?

true?:


If I was a creature from another world, I would not come to this planet. You people are so far behind normal reasoning, You talk of high thinking. You are like worms. Look at your own hands…don’t you see a greater power in anything?

advocate666:

Hehe. So the world would be full of extremely old people today. Even you, with your IQ, should know that it makes no sense.

truthislight:

we assume too much.

Our body has an infinite capacity to renew itself, but the problem is that this process simply just stop like a projectile that have lost momentum.

We simply start with the initial life force and after that we start to degenerate (old age) and die.

If we were not disconnected from the source of life we would have remaining connected to it and from there we will receive constant renewal and remain regenerated, when you have a cut do you use cement to fill it? No.

See what it takes for human not to die again in that Revelation 20:1-4

its only takes God to be with man(reconnection) and then "dead will be no more" read it. (nothing more then God coming back to man like he was with Adam)

That reconnection is the purpose that Jesus coming served, and to show us the way to remain connected = obedience to what God says, which is the exact opposite of what Adam did(he disobeyed).

In other words, the key to eternal life is obeying Yahweh, which was what the tree in the garden symbolised.

Again, the passage of time has shown that Adam decision was a blonder .

We are back to the basics = obedience

but on individual basis now since the consideration is no longer on the basis or viewing us through the spectacle of Adam since that has been undone.

advocate666:

That's the beauty of Satanism as compared to godliness. You don't even need to believe in Him. He is very happy that you are an atheist because you are on the right path to knowledge. Stay strong.

advocate666:
Please stop. Do you really think this or are you joking?

advocate666:
Do you know that you are one in billions of spermatozoids that survived? So if no death, what happens to spermatozoids?

advocate666:
So, I imagine no miscarriages then,

advocate666:
no limit to child bearing age

advocate666:
because the day women stop bearing children, they'll be disobeying the command to go and multiply

advocate666:
are you proposing anachy?

There will be law and over experciall considering that those that will be privilege to be there have already proved with their choices now that Yahweh's laws are the standard the opera and want to operate.

All law breakers will not be part of the new system. Selection for this kingdom that is to come is done based on our choices we make with our life.

advocate666:
No abortion,

advocate666:
No miscariage

advocate666:
No old people

advocate666:
just billions and billions of multiplying able bodied young men and women filling up a geographically limited earth.

advocate666:
you can stab your mother dont worry she will not die.

advocate666:
Why eat?

advocate666:
Hunger can't kill you. etc, etc, etc.

advocate666:
Why did god tell adam to eat other fruits if hunger can't kill him?

advocate666:
Please think.

truthislight:


what makes you feel i am not thinking?

Femmymata2: Well, i believe that u are an intelligent person. Which of the Gods worshipped all over the world can speak directly to a large people(none), which God can be called upon to intervene and stop the daily wanton killing in nigeria,israel/palestian,syria,mexico(none). Can the Federal government of Nigeria depend on prayers to a nön-existent,inactive,unreliable,dormant diety to solve our security/economic challenges(NO).Only a foool will say YES,

advocate666:

No, you are not thinking.
There is not enough space on earth to contain everybody if people don't die.

truthislight:

that is you with your limited horizon talking and not Yahweh.

The one that created the eyes cant he see?

The one that created the brain cant he think?

Your choice men.