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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by ngobaby2264: 9:40am On Sep 24, 2016
abouzaid:
ha ha, that approach denied me an a once and it was very painful, the lecturer actually didn't understand the textbook except she photocopied and ended up teaching us the wrong thing and marking it the right answer, i have also noticed that most lecturers especially in the north, are not even teaching what they studied, imagine a fisheries graduate teaching chemistry in a state polytechnic in the north? i rest my case.
it's really bad
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by babyfaceafrica: 9:41am On Sep 24, 2016
abouzaid:
any lecturer that have political connection would likely be working for the government in places like inec,nafdac or population commission, most politicians are not lecturers biko,they're equally looking for the connection.
oga better connections dey school,if you didn't see for your school,that does not mean it doesn't exist in other schools,come UNILAG,IGBIENDION,OAU and the likes

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by EdoBoy90(m): 9:45am On Sep 24, 2016
dblackninja:


To tell you the truth, Nigerian system of education in the university level is just crappy and won't add any skill for you. It's just a total waste of time unless you are innovative & can think outside the box.

Call an electrical engineering graduate to do some simple alternating wiring and he will burn down your house undecided but call a simple electrician for the job & he will do a neat work.

U mentioned that mech engrs create design & optimize...well I am yet to see a made in Nigeria car, unless am living in pluto, nothing tangible have come from our mech engineers.

Or shall I talk of the botanists that doesn't even know the name of species of plant from just one genus.

What of our electronic engrs, the road side phone and computer repairs are far better than them. They only know how to carry files up and down.

Seriously do you want me to go on? The only thing you know is: where is 201, 302, 411 lectures holding? & you will run like a goat on heat to grab the front seat & at least get D in the course undecided

Nigeria university education system is just wack...graduate and follow others in file carrying.

For now young man, we don't have system in place for that but they create design and optimized not only cars but other mechanical systems. Mechanical engineering is not limited to cars only.

Does Nigerian government have a plant to manufacture cars? The answer is "NO!"
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by abouzaid: 9:47am On Sep 24, 2016
buchilino:
I FEEL DAT WAY MOST TIMES, Y?, ELIGANZA CEO OKOYA ONCE MADE A STATEMENT, DAT AFFECTED ME N STILL AFFECTS ME. HE SAID N I QUOTE, AM NOT A GRADUATE, BUT WITHOUT ME MANY OF THEM CAN'T BE ABLE 2 FEED THEIR FAMILIES.
dora akunyilli one said during unn convocation lecture that Nigerian universities are producing graduates who are illiterates in their fields and she's a professor o.
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by abouzaid: 9:49am On Sep 24, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
oga better connections dey school,if you didn't see for your school,that does not mean it doesn't exist in other schools,come UNILAG,IGBIENDION,OAU and the likes
even far better connections de working place,believe it or not.
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by Rick9(m): 9:49am On Sep 24, 2016
charmingfrank:
as socrates said man know thy self and unexamined life us not worth living.
anymore than the unexamined idea is not worth having
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by babyfaceafrica: 9:52am On Sep 24, 2016
abouzaid:
even far better connections de working place,believe it or not.
the school is a working place too
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by ezra01(m): 9:56am On Sep 24, 2016
Pchidexy:
It is a sad really but honestly university education in Nigeria is a waste. I happened to have studied business education. After 5 years of graduation I was only getting peanuts from the small teaching jobs I was managing then.

It was only until I ventured into business that I realized the precious time I wasted at school. Currently I am making not less than #250k monthly from my business.

You see the biggest players in many Nigerian businesses did not go to university. The acquired the knowledge the need on the field of their various trade.

If you must go to school, work and school!

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by dblackninja: 9:57am On Sep 24, 2016
EdoBoy90:


For now young man, we don't have system in place for that but they create design and optimized not only cars but other mechanical systems. Mechanical engineering is not limited to cars only.

Does Nigerian government have a plant to manufacture cars? The answer is "NO!"

You don't get it do you? Tell us what Nigeria mech engrs have created or designed. What exactly? And don't tell me about tightening nuts & bolts in faulty machineries [of the cassava milling factory you're working for undecided ]

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by lastpage: 9:59am On Sep 24, 2016
Caracta:
My degree is not a waste. I learnt beyond the lectures and tutorials. I didn't limit myself to the 'classroom experience.' It was a life experience for me.

kishimi8:
funny . me im an electrical engineer . grad from abu . i happen to cherish my degree so much . and i can't be compared with no damned roadside trial and error dude.

and[b] a mech engrs job is not to fix cars pls but to design, create , and optimize . fixing stuff is for technologists .[/b]

. @op uni edu is just a guide , you are meant to complement it with self research


I am happy that there are Graduates/Students like the two people l have quoted above.

I have also read the post of a few people, who said "their University Education is a WASTE"!
shocked shocked

Well, l feel really sorry for these types because there problem is actually not the University education but a combination of Acute Ignorance, Mental Laziness and Bad Advice.


Let me explain:

1.) IGNORANCE: Those folks that think a University graduate is supposed to be able to 'open a vehicle's Engine like a road-side mechanic or run wire from Nepa Pole are just ignorant of what University education is all about.

For the avoidance of doubt, University education is just to OPEN YOUR MIND TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS CAPABLE OF "IMAGINING ANYTHING" (CONCEPTUALISATION) ............BECAUSE IF IT CAN BE "IMAGINED", IT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
Forget the fact that we live in an environment where that "imagination" is not DEVELOPED due to lack of basic infrastructure... but that is a problem of "Bad Governance" perpetuated mainly by CORRUPTION, ....not "bad" University education!


So, these folks are ignorant of why they went to the University. Plain and Simple.

2.) MENTAL LAZINESS: It is often said that "No knowledge is wasted".
This means that once you imbibe KNOWLEDGE, there is ALWAYS something you can do with it.
University education, by "opening your critical mind", imbibes knowledge in you.

But what you do with that knowledge, is a function of whether you are mentally lazy or not.

Take for example, that one that said he is studying Computer Sc. and "knows nothing" about programming!
First, there are many areas of Computer Science and programming/Coding is only one of those speciality.
There is Networking, Web-design, Hardware, to mention just a few.
So, not until you get to maybe part three of your study, would you start "specialising" in a particular area.

But this does not stop "mentally hardworking students" from broadening their knowledge, on their own.
Just like the mentally lazy Accounting students graduate with just a BSc, the intelligent and "mentally aware" amongst them will have finished their ACCA/ICAN or be in the final level, when they are graduating!

I know many Computer Sc undergraduates who have completed and bagged many Certification courses like A+, Network+, MCSE, Cisco Certifications, e.t.c........ to position themselves for the future!
But the mentally lazy ones just go for lecture, finish lecture and dump their books on the table till the next day
. undecided

While the University "opens your mind and broadens your horizon", it is your own personal duty to take it a step further.... or not.

BAD ADVICE: One thing we have to admit is that those who are not "at home" with their course of study, hardly excel in it.
Most students either chose a course because that is what their JAMB Score will permit, or because they erroneously think "that course sells/will make money" (money-centric students) or the course is what "Mummy/Daddy wants them to do".

Most have no idea what the course is about when they accepted the admission letter or have a misconceived notion of what it is about.

If for example, you are somebody who likes to tinker with objects (and you are good with your hands) , one who likes to open up and re-assemble things, why on earth are you in the University studying Mathematics? shocked shocked
You should be at a Technical College, studying "craftsmanship" like Autoworks, Woodwork, Radionic, Plumbing, Roofer........ all at professional level, with certifications to boot.


But you either listened to bad advice, had a wrong orientation (Money! Money!!) or were too desperate to enter University that year when you knew your JAMB performance is still not up to the "cut-off point" of what your heart really wanted to study.
You accepted a wrong course that does not compliment and accentuate your innate abilities! undecided undecided

We can also not discount those group of "students who passed through the University" but "the University DID NOT pass through them".
These group of students are the lazy, unserious and are usaully the "happening guys" on Campus.
They dont apply themselves to study .....or any form of "acquisition of knowledge", while on campus.
All their years were used in cheating to pass exams (Expo, Scrunje, Oodu, micro-chip, Gbeere, e.t.c).
They bribed lecturers, threaten them and did about anything (except study) to pass exams.

When they leave School, these group of students are "lost" as to why they even went to the University because "they came out, the way they went in,..... except for their age"! grin grin

These sort will tell you that University education is a waste, if they happen to "jam money", in a very corrupt and decadent society.


How then do you turn around to blame University Education for your woes when it has nothing to do with it?

Like the two people l quoted above, l am a testament to sound University education (having convocated five times! .... (at various levels) from the prestigious Unilag while still pursuing a Law degree as a mature student, and concurrently a Professional in one of the Security Arms ).

Let no one fool you, YOU are what you make of your University Degree.
Like we say, "A Bad worker blames his tools".

Nuff said.




Lastpage!

PS: the above post is meant to encourage those who will decide to properly purse their University degree(s)...... undecided undecided

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by buchilino(m): 10:02am On Sep 24, 2016
abouzaid:
dora akunyilli one said during unn convocation lecture that Nigerian universities are producing graduates who are illiterates in their fields and she's a professor o.

TRUE, BUT MY POINT IS DAT THERE R VERY SUCCESSFUL DORAS OUT THERE. HIGHER INSTITUTIONS TEACH THINGS BUT THEY DON'T TEACH US D REALITIES OF LIFE. MOST OF US LEAVE SCHOOL NOT KNOWING WAT 2 EXPECT IN D REAL WORLD. N WEN D CHALLENGES OF LIFE BLOW IT'S WIND AT US, WE DONT NO HOW 2 REACT. I READ PUB ADMIN, BUT I COMMITTED SO MANY BLUNDERS WHERE I WORK, DAT IT TOOK GOD'S MERCY 4 ME NOT 2 LOSE MY JOB. WAT THEY TEACH IN SCHOOLS R OPPOSITE OF WAT HAPPENS IN LIFE. DATS MY POINT. PPLE LIKE OKOYA LEARNT LIFE LESSONS DATS Y THEY R SUCCESSFUL.
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by abouzaid: 10:03am On Sep 24, 2016
dblackninja:


You don't get it do you? Tell us what Nigeria mech engrs have created or designed. What exactly? And don't tell me about tightening nuts & bolts in faulty machineries [of the cassava milling factory you're working for undecided ]
the funny aspect is that it's always the street side guys that always design and fabricate anything in this country.

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by lastpage: 10:07am On Sep 24, 2016
abouzaid:
my dear, 99.9%of Nigerian lecturers don't have any industrial experience or connection, if they do,they would likely have been working in industry than lecturing, "those who know it do it,those who don't know it, teach it" George Bernard shaw.

Even as a student, we did a lot of "industrial work Experience" Scheme (SIWES) where we were attached to "industries" to learn the "practicals" and see real life experience!.... in addition to the "Practicals" we did in the school laboratory.

Are you not aware that there are "Industry professionals" who also double as lecturers?
They are called "Contract lecturers".
I had a few of them as my own lecturers, over time.

You people just throw figures and statements around or are we talking about University Education in another country?



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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by hUmaneOne: 10:08am On Sep 24, 2016
remiiko:
though am not fit to be here but I just have to air out my own view...I intend studying law like Amari but am awaiting my choice institution admission list(AAU) abouzaid after a careful observation of your posts on this thread I began to wonder if you are employed.bro though am not yet in school a degree holder who studied for the degree,even if he or she is unemployed is a plus.how many road side mechanic are elite in our society? how many can speak English fluently for 30minutes without him stuttering? how many of them are MD at Julius Berger, Chevron,NNPC etc.I kno you would say some are waived due to the fact that they av networks at the top.if all righteousness are to be fulfil will they be der? I am not saying to learn a skill isn't a good idea while I await admission I does a menial job of fixing phones which I rake in cookies money..............Sir appreciate God for making u a graduate its not a waste of time.


do not let these these failures sweet talk you.

For some disciplines your degree can not be a waste. Eg.in Law and medicine's practice you utilize all you are taught in school
Any tom,dick and harry cannot practice those profession without the degree...

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by Mandu11(m): 10:09am On Sep 24, 2016
\/\/ho ma degree go epp?That thing to me is just a "paper" to find a job and it stops there.As for me,having a degree doesn't mean u are valuable or can offer anithing valuable.It is just paper.
If ma brain can bring value to the earth,fvck degree.if ma degree cannot change or add value to people's life,then it's useless.
To me,degree is just for ur ego,and if u are living for ur ego then u haven't started living "LIFE".
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by heazyconcept: 10:10am On Sep 24, 2016
well it might not be a total waste but does it worth it? well, I can't say for medical students, lawyers, and probably the business admins and accounting student. but for technology being caged in a school for 5 or six years is a waste of time I don't see the reason why I can't go to.schools like open university that will give me time to learn the practical and gain experience than going to school fulltime that will cage me and at the end of the day it's 'la cram la pour' so this is what I'm saying though the certificate it's lf is good because it comes with class and where a certificate holder can get to, a person that learn a job outside(apprentice) MIGHT not able to get there. but the truth is giving all your five years or six years to a school in thus Nigeria is not worth it.
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by lastpage: 10:13am On Sep 24, 2016
buchilino:


TRUE, BUT MY POINT IS DAT THERE R VERY SUCCESSFUL DORAS OUT THERE. HIGHER INSTITUTIONS TEACH THINGS BUT THEY DON'T TEACH US D REALITIES OF LIFE. MOST OF US LEAVE SCHOOL NOT KNOWING WAT 2 EXPECT IN D REAL WORLD. N WEN D CHALLENGES OF LIFE BLOW IT'S WIND AT US, WE DONT NO HOW 2 REACT. I READ PUB ADMIN, BUT I COMMITTED SO MANY BLUNDERS WHERE I WORK, DAT IT TOOK GOD'S MERCY 4 ME NOT 2 LOSE MY JOB. WAT THEY TEACH IN SCHOOLS R OPPOSITE OF WAT HAPPENS IN LIFE. DATS MY POINT. PPLE LIKE OKOYA LEARNT LIFE LESSONS DATS Y THEY R SUCCESSFUL.

What most people who say this dont realize is that it is what they learnt in school, that made it 'easy for them" to imbibe what they are taught (fast-mode) in the work place.
Even in advance countries, every fresh worker (trainee) is taken through a series of "apprenticeship training" in the work place!
I am talking about countries with the best educational system.

Now, imagine how it would have been for you, if you have no University education, and they have to take you through the same process.... how easy will itbe for you to follow-up? undecided undecided

That is why l said: University Education OPENS YOUR MIND AND HORIZON FOR UNLIMITED IMAGINATION".



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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by Mandu11(m): 10:13am On Sep 24, 2016
Getting an education and getting a degree are 2 veri different things.
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by ifewise(m): 10:14am On Sep 24, 2016
Its not a waste,You just have to discover & develop ur self afterwards.Moreover education is the only thing that cannot be taken away from u.

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by lastpage: 10:17am On Sep 24, 2016
hUmaneOne:


do not let these these failures sweet talk you.

For some disciplines your degree can not be a waste. Eg.in Law and medicine's practice you utilize all you are taught in school
Any tom,dick and harry cannot practice those profession without the degree...

It is usually the "failures" that condemn it.

Will you ever see an Engineer in Chevron or LNG say his University Education is a waste?

Successful people will highlight the "deficient areas of our curricula" but the failures will say "it is a waste".
Ofcourse, "who will the Fly take side with, if not the man with a sore"? grin grin - Yoruba proverb



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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by sukkot: 10:19am On Sep 24, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
that's mostly true,its annoying really,when we go through some of these foreign syllabus and you shake your head..but we still go there and beat them...we are just naturally good,but lack decent exposure to compete...that's why as painful as it may sound...a lot of Nigerians will never attain their intellectual height if they remain in this country.Note...they may be rich,popular and the likes,but they cognitive reasoning will be limited
yeah naturally good at cramming. the same people with masters from europe will come home looking for work like everybody else lolzzz. they still cant build shytttt or apply their masters to create employment
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by dblackninja: 10:19am On Sep 24, 2016
abouzaid:
the funny aspect is that it's always the street side guys that always design and fabricate anything in this country.

That's just the uncanny truth. Those guys invest their time in a lot of real trial and errors to achieve their goals.
Come to the lecture room, FEG 434 handouts & books flying up & down. An electrical engineer student reading engineering mathematics to what end if not to burn someone's house down undecided No real practicals Nothing. You can't really achieve anything there if you just invest your time to read & pass well.

You might get good grades for your effort but you will only end up at best- BEING HIRED TO DEVELOP ANOTHER PERSON'S IDEAS.

or

CARRY FILES UP AND DOWN LIKE THE REST.
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by Abee79(m): 10:20am On Sep 24, 2016
Biko! Someone please remind me . . . which University did President Buhari attend? At least tell me the degree he acquired . . . lipsrsealed
#resipsaloquitur
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by charcoy2k: 10:21am On Sep 24, 2016
I love this thread,kudos to the OP. I personally think that years and money spent in the course of pursuing academic degrees are indeed all wasteful since one would spend between 4-6yrs to obtain a degree and additional 1yr of NYSC after which the person would roam the streets for years without a job and no jobs prospects as tenths of thousands keep graduating annually. The worst of it is that even when you have a good feasible economics developmental concepts you cannot actualize it due to lack of start up capitals and those your academics degree certificates and credentials which are your assets cannot even get you bank loans except if you have got a landed property. Whereas those of your mates who left for either apprenticeship, some after primary or secondary schools have built houses and are landlords, married with children and are car owners. If the government actually cares for this influx of graduates and are sensitive to their plights, they should mandate the commercial banks to give loans to graduates depending on their grades and using their original credentials as collateral after a careful scrutiny of the authenticity of the cerificates and an in-depth feasibility studies of the viability of the investment prospects intended with the loan. Ofcourse there has to be criteria, code of conducts and MoUs for accessing such loan. For instance, First class graduates should be able to access 1mnaira, second class upper 700k, second class lower 500k, third class 300k.

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by babyfaceafrica: 10:22am On Sep 24, 2016
sukkot:
yeah naturally good at cramming. the same people with masters from europe will come home looking for work like everybody else lolzzz. they still cant build shytttt or apply their masters to create employment
ur opinion

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by ryeechzzi: 10:25am On Sep 24, 2016
ITbomb:

Can't you see that you are contradicting yourself.
Somebody studied Chemistry for 4 years and you are telling him to buy a taxi. What is the correlation there for all the knowledge acquired over the years in Chemistry
but isn't it beta Dan sitting at home doing nothing
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by sukkot: 10:26am On Sep 24, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
ur opinion
a valid opinion i might add
Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by hUmaneOne: 10:27am On Sep 24, 2016
lastpage:


It is usually the "failures" that condemn it.

Will you ever see an Engineer in Chevron or LNG say his University Education is a waste?

Successful people will highlight the "deficient areas of our curricula" but the failures will say "it is a waste".
Ofcourse, "who will the Fly take side with, if not the man with a sore"? grin grin - Yoruba proverb

Lastpage!
Thank you..failures are showing themselves.

I earn more than 1/2 of my pay from a skill I acquired in school.
My school training had some deficient areas but certainly not a waste..

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by hUmaneOne: 10:32am On Sep 24, 2016
charcoy2k:
I love this thread,kudos to the OP. I personally think that years and money spent in the course of pursuing academic degrees are indeed all wasteful since one would spend between 4-6yrs to obtain a degree and additional 1yr of NYSC after which the person would roam the streets for years without a job and no jobs prospects as tenths of thousands keep graduating annually. The worst of it is that even when you have a good feasible economics developmental concepts you cannot actualize it due to lack of start up capitals and those your academics degree certificates and credentials which are your assets cannot even get you bank loans except if you have got a landed property. Whereas those of your mates who left for either apprenticeship, some after primary or secondary schools have built houses and are landlords, married with children and are car owners. If the government actually cares for this influx of graduates and are sensitive to their plights, they should mandate the commercial banks to give loans to graduates depending on their grades and using their original credentials as collateral after a careful scrutiny of the authenticity of the cerificates and an in-depth feasibility studies of the viability of the investment prospects intended with the loan. Ofcourse there has to be criteria, code of conducts and MoUs for accessing such loan. For instance, First class graduates should be able to access 1mnaira, second class upper 700k, second class lower 500k, third class 300k.

Do you know why many successful people and up going back to school?
Its because there is a limit to the peak of their career and they realise the need for education.

While youths that should treasure education are regretting theirs. cry

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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by lastpage: 10:33am On Sep 24, 2016
Abee79:
Biko! Someone please remind me . . . which University did President Buhari attend? At least tell me the degree he acquired . . . lipsrsealed
#resipsaloquitur

Ignorance is NOT an excuse!

It is called American War College and it awards Masters and Doctorate Degrees, as of TODAY


See below!!




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Re: Do U Feel That Ur University Degree Is A Waste Of Time And Why by holocron: 10:39am On Sep 24, 2016
Caracta:
My degree is not a waste. [b]I learnt beyond the lectures and tutorials. I didn't limit myself to the 'classroom experience.' [/b]It was a life experience for me.

You just indicted yourself that you only learnt by yourself. The university process alone was inadequate.

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