Afam4eva:
How about "be visible Yoruba or not". Why does your religious affiliation have to be obvious and not your cultural affiliation. Why do you need someone to know you're a Muslim through your name?

justaqad:
And you think its your name that would distinguish you on the day of reckoning? Allah looks at the heart of men... Your deeds and actions would identify you as a muslim,not arabic nomenclature

seunajia:

Your assertions are contrary to the OP's. unless the OP is saying people shouldn't bear Islamic names at-all.

Again, you religion is your identity. If you're not ashamed to be a muslim, you'll bear a muslim name. And bearing a muslim name does not make you less Yoruba or Igbo. Why do Doctors put Dr. In front of their names?

Yes I want people to identify me as a muslim.

My name is Abubakar Omobowale Balogun. I'm a muslim and proudly yoruba

donroxy: @Topic
Allah has 99names in the Quran......If Op belief in Allah,he will Belief in the Quran.....Allah called himself different 99names.........if I therefore decided to give my son/daughter One of Allah 99names......whats the problem of Op!!! Muslims are enjoined to give their Children Names of Allah,Mohammed,Sahabah....... And U re not ''compelled'' to give this names but only ''enjoined''........!!!


The names u give ur child identify what he/she associate with religiously,yoruba names suggest,she is a Yoruba......Islamic/arabic names(whatever u call it) suggest,she is a muslim!!!


Allah did not say,in d Quran, that ......He is ''Babatunde'' nor ''Oye-labi''...... Nor ''Owoniyi''...... He(swt) call Himself(swt) ''Gafur'','Kabir'', ''Qodir'' et all!!!...... And Good Muslim is enjoined to associate with Allah and His names!!!


@Op
Ki lo de, iwo nikan ko ni Yooba...... Ma pe Aja lobo fun wa joor(u can't confuse us).......Adisi le,Rikishi,Ote ati Tembelekun......Hypocrite!!!

BetaThings:

You say you are a convinced (not default) muslim, what innovation BTW
You know what Allah does
So what is the position of Allah on naming people?
A default muslim knows it let alone a convinced Muslim
So, out with it. Tell

And you think its your name that would distinguish you on the day of reckoning? Allah looks at the heart of men... Your deeds and actions would identify you as a muslim,not arabic nomenclature

Afam4eva:
You're getting it all wrong. Pls tell us which names are Islamic names and we will take it from there.

seunajia:

Your assertions are contrary to the OP's. unless the OP is saying people shouldn't bear Islamic names at-all.

Again, you religion is your identity. If you're not ashamed to be a muslim, you'll bear a muslim name. And bearing a muslim name does not make you less Yoruba or Igbo. Why do Doctors put Dr. In front of their names?

Yes I want people to identify me as a muslim. My name highlights both my Islamic and Yoruba heritage.

My name is Abubakar Omobowale Balogun. I'm a muslim and a proud yoruba

donroxy:
....Hypocrite!!!

seunajia:

Really?

aribisala0:
The trouble with a lot of muslims(and) christians is they hardly read their scripture. WHAT IS A MUSLIM NAME Please tell us. The names YOU Call Muslim names are NOT muslim names they are Arabic names which Arab muslims,christians on non-believers alike ALL bear.
Does the Quran Talk about names which muslims shoul bear anywhere??

Mr. Justaqad,

All your good deeds and actions would not suffice to identify you as a muslim. If you die "John Paul" as a muslim, you will be raised and judged as a muslim. If you die Pastor Ibrahim as a non muslim, you will be raised that way and judged as such.

Let there be no confusion, I hope this helps.

You proposed that by bearing Islamic names which are Arabic, we are losing our identity to the Arabs.

I counter that by saying, the choice of an individual to use his/her muslim name is more in line with wanting to be identified as a muslim. That does not change your tribe/nationality/race/gender/political affiliation.....

Read through my posts again and let me know where you need more clarity.

aribisala0:
The trouble with a lot of muslims(and) christians is they hardly read their scripture. WHAT IS A MUSLIM NAME Please tell us. The names YOU Call Muslim names are NOT muslim names they are Arabic names which Arab muslims,christians on non-believers alike ALL bear.
Does the Quran Talk about names which muslims shoul bear anywhere??

hadbak:

I don't want to agree wit u on d bases that if u bear Abubakar u are seen as an arab, If u say a muslim I agree. No doubt d name may have an arab origin nevertheless, Arabic is the language of d Quran n d messenger, so if u bear an arabic name ur simply identifying as a muslim n not an arab. Its not a coincidence/mistake that d quran is in d arabic language but of Allah's desires. This is how u as a muslim shld see it rather than saying ur losing ur identity by ur name sounding arabic in nature while ur not an arab. Ur identity as a muslim shld be more important/shld superceed any identity. God creater us all into various tribes n nation but stil choose Arabic language for His religion... don't u think if He desire He could have made us into one nation/tribe? Its a blessing to the arabs for Allah to esteem Arabic language by making it d Quran language, so don't hold it against them.. If the quran language hadn't been arabic n yet d quran came from the arabs then, I wil have a problem if u bear an arab name(abubakar) else I dnt see y u shld stress ur nerves..

justaqad:

[b]if i bear Abubakar the first thing that comes to your mind is,(arab)[/b]while i am yoruba.your name is your identity.i went through a lot trying to explain to people i am yoruba. if an arab converts to Christianity he/she need not change name.and you sure know Christianity is not an arab thing.the point is
IF AN ARAB CANNOT CHANGE HIS NAME WHY SHOULD I?

ayinba1:

Are you a muslim? If not, how do you come about defining what an Islamic/ Muslim name is?
Do people just post for the sake of it?

BetaThings:

@Justaqad
I believe that you are convinced enough to know that you have been called a hypocrite
Over to you!
Answer the charge, Doing at at the level of a default muslim will even suffice
We are waiting!

ayinba1:

And this is where the contention lies. If a yoruba man says "myname is Olatunde" you do not know if he is Muslim, Christian or Pagan. With an Islamic name, the muslim damned all odds and stated " I am a muslim". It is a matter of choice. Be a visible muslim OR not.

Not bearing a muslim name does not make you less of a muslim, IMO, but having a muslim name DOES NOT make you lose your culture.

maclatunji:

I am getting your position now but you are getting it wrong by stating that using Muslim first names is losing your identity to Arabs. That would be correct if names as 'mac bin tunji' were pervasive amongst Yoruba people. Islam is a total concept and nothing identifies you as a Muslim more than your first name.

You see Muslims calling themselves Abubakar after Abu Bakr, have you seen any Muslim named Abu Jahl or Abu Lahab?

I still say you are insecure. Yes, use your traditional names but this your theory screams out that you are personally insecure about your religion.

I guess by your logic, Herbert Macaulay and Henry Carr stopped being Yoruba men because of their English names.

Jarus:

No, if you bear Abubakar, teh first thing that comes to anybody's mind is you are a Muslim, before the thought of Arab, if any.

ayinba1:

Are you a muslim? If not, how do you come about defining what an Islamic/ Muslim name is?
Do people just post for the sake of it?

maclatunji:

Tell me about it. Your name says so much about you and can be a great reflection of the things you hold dear. OP got things mixed-up when he mistook his desire to be known as Yoruba above anything else as some sort of "superior enlightenment" over other Yoruba Muslims who would like to be Muslims above every other thing.

tpia@:


i dont think you're contradicting the poster.

this is what he was saying, to the best of my knowledge.

most nigerians give their kids an ethnic name as well as a religious one.

even oyibos and westerners look at you somehow if you're foreign [to them] and yet none of your names are.

maclatunji:

They do, a lot!

justaqad:

Does it matter what you think of me?
I am a convinced muslim... Is that not enough?read all my topics and post then draw your conclusion.

BetaThings:

With due respect, non-muslims should not declare positions before asking question!
Of course a Muslim who converts to Christianity and keeps that Muslim name is still bearing a Muslim name

The answer your second question is YES
We are told what to name people
That is actually the ignorance that a "convinced muslim" is exhibiting here

alaoeri: Don't know why the op is digging issue out of nothing or what 'll he say to lagosian bearing bucknor, smith, pedro so they have also lost their identity to the white abi.

donroxy:
I am contradicting the Op.....

There is difference between Indigenous name and religion Name..... !!!

If u vault muslims for taking up Arabic indigenous names(not Islamic) names.....it is understandable......!!!

The Op failed to distinguished between Arab indigenous name and Islamic names he(Op) even said there is nothing like ''Islamic names'' which is IGNORANCE!!!



Not all Arab is muslim and not all muslim is arab!!!


If ISLAM emanate from Igboland and Prophet(saw) is an Igboman and God communicated with Him(saw) in Igbo........thus Giving HIS(God) names in Igbo which is scripturally documented and also enjoined All adherents to bear such BEAUTIFUL names..... !!!


Then, why shd I not have CHUKWU-EBUKA has my Religion name!!! Which thus doesn't mean am paying Homage to Igboland but my God!!!


@Op
Most Islamic names were not bear by Arabs before the advent of Islam.......come and argue it Op!!!


Let that Op come and tell me the Number of Arab that were bearing Abdul Gaffar ,abdul Qodir et all before the advent of Islam!!!


Islam is Totality if u can drop the Belief of ur Culture,Heritage,Norms.....forefathers then Drop the Names too!!

Am saying all the above cuz Op claimed a muslim if He is a Christian....it is gonna be another dimension entirely!!!

justaqad:

same issue. we should learn to stick to our certain cultural heritage. imagine honorable tbaba not having any tribal names just arabic.gush

justaqad:

Is there any such thing as Islamic Name