inspiredbyGOD:.:
Christianity isn't bound to any one denomination so if Catholicism is false, then Catholicism is false not Christianity. The true Church is the spiritual Church. The body of believers all over the world (not bound by denomination but one in Christ).

You must be bad with history

MacDaddy01:


You must be bad with history

You have no idea about what I'm talking about. The Apostles and early Christians were never called Catholics, they never practised what the Catholics are now doing. Christianity as we now know it started it's downward spiral when Constantine converted for political reasons. But God knows those that are His (and He isn't bound to any one denomination).

inspiredbyGOD:.:
You have no idea about what I'm talking about. The Apostles and early Christians were never called Catholics, they never practised what the Catholics are now doing. Christianity as we now know it started it's downward spiral when Constantine converted for political reasons. But God knows those that are His (and He isn't bound to any one denomination).

Yawn, is your understanding of the apostles not a result of the catholics choosing what books in the new testament to put?

MacDaddy01:

Yawn, is your understanding of the apostles not a result of the catholics choosing what books in the new testament to put?

And once again, Catholics were not the sole compilers of the bible. Churches worldwide all had a say in the compilation.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
And once again, Catholics were not the sole compilers of the bible. Churches worldwide all had a say in the compilation.

Gaddem lie.


Read some history

chukwudi44:


Yes if catholicism is false then christianity is
false.

i am disappointed from this statement of yours above.

How do you mean? Can you explain with reason and not your own opinion?

Is it catholic doctrine the form/founded christianity or it is Jesus christ and the apostolic teaching as recorded in the bible and the epistle of the apostles of christ?

chukwudi44:
catholics have had the grteatest influence in xtian history from selecting the books of the bible

the base argument is catholic failure meaning the failure of christianity.

The books of the bible are the epistle of the apostlesof christ.

chukwudi44:
Catholics deciding key doctrinal issues!!

is it the catholics that decides the doctrin or the scriptures?

The apostles.
The scriptures.
The catholic church.

^ which came first?

Where the apostles not followers of christ/christians?

If the catholic church fails, do you mean that the apostles of christ will not be save also, bearing in mind that they are also christians?

If not, why claim the exclusiveness of being right to catholics since their epistle is what that should be followed.

That a religious body went/goes wrong, does that mean that the epistle written in black and white later went wrong?

chukwudi44:
The gospels were anonymous,it was the catholic church that told the rest of christiandom who wrote them

that is irrelevant.
This epistles were already in use by christians befor it was brought together.

chukwudi44:
.yes if the catholics are wrong then the gospels are wrong

how?

Did catholics change the epistles of christ apostles?

Or, are you insinuating that the apostles were wrong? Explain please.

chukwudi44:
and xtianity is also wrong!!!

^^

guy you wicked oh!
*smh*

MacDaddy01:

Yawn, is your understanding of the apostles not a result of the catholics choosing what books in the new testament to put?

the jews also have their own history outside the bible.

Josephuse and other historians also wrote about the apostles.

What do you really have in mind?

inspiredbyGOD:.:
You have no idea about what I'm talking about. The Apostles and early Christians were never called Catholics, they never practised what the Catholics are now doing. Christianity as we now know it started it's downward spiral when Constantine converted for political reasons. But God knows those that are His (and He isn't bound to any one denomination).

and Jesus wasnt called a christian, what else?

truthislight:

i am disappointed from this statement of yours above.

sentiments #yawn#

How do you mean? Can you explain with reason and not your own opinion?

Is it catholic doctrine the form/founded christianity or it is Jesus christ and the apostolic teaching as recorded in the bible and the epistle of the apostles of christ?

u mean d bible catholics wrote and compiled abi?

the base argument is catholic failure meaning the failure of christianity.

The books of the bible are the epistle of the apostlesof christ.

if i remember correctly, d council of carthage said so.

is it the catholics that decides the doctrin or the scriptures?

d church is d pillar and ground of truth, she makes d decisions in line with d faith delivered to d saints once and for all.

The apostles.
The scriptures.
The catholic church.

^ which came first?

d order is 1 the apostles 2 the church 3 the bible.

Where the apostles not followers of christ/christians?

If the catholic church fails, do you mean that the apostles of christ will not be save also, bearing in mind that they are also christians?

If not, why claim the exclusiveness of being right to catholics since their epistle is what that should be followed.

That a religious body went/goes wrong, does that mean that the epistle written in black and white later went wrong?

u are now making noise, he said if d cath church which is historic christianity is wrong, then non historic "christians" cant claim to be right.

that is irrelevant.
This epistles were already in use by christians befor it was brought together.

do u know how many epistles were in use?

how?

Did catholics change the epistles of christ apostles?

Or, are you insinuating that the apostles were wrong? Explain please.



^^

guy you wicked oh!
*smh*

#yawns#

truthislight:

i am disappointed from this statement of yours above.

sentiments #yawn#

How do you mean? Can you explain with reason and not your own opinion?

Is it catholic doctrine the form/founded christianity or it is Jesus christ and the apostolic teaching as recorded in the bible and the epistle of the apostles of christ?

u mean d bible catholics wrote and compiled abi?

the base argument is catholic failure meaning the failure of christianity.

The books of the bible are the epistle of the apostlesof christ.

if i remember correctly, d council of carthage said so.

is it the catholics that decides the doctrin or the scriptures?

d church is d pillar and ground of truth, she makes d decisions in line with d faith delivered to d saints once and for all.

The apostles.
The scriptures.
The catholic church.

^ which came first?

d order is 1 the apostles 2 the church 3 the bible.

Where the apostles not followers of christ/christians?

If the catholic church fails, do you mean that the apostles of christ will not be save also, bearing in mind that they are also christians?

If not, why claim the exclusiveness of being right to catholics since their epistle is what that should be followed.

That a religious body went/goes wrong, does that mean that the epistle written in black and white later went wrong?

u are now making noise, he said if d cath church which is historic christianity is wrong, then non historic "christians" cant claim to be right.

that is irrelevant.
This epistles were already in use by christians befor it was brought together.

do u know how many epistles were in use?

how?

Did catholics change the epistles of christ apostles?

Or, are you insinuating that the apostles were wrong? Explain please.



^^

guy you wicked oh!
*smh*

#yawns#

truthislight:

the jews also have their own history outside the bible.

Josephuse and other historians also wrote about the apostles.

What do you really have in mind?

which apostles exactly?

MacDaddy01: If the catholic church is false, all christianity is false.



Catholics compiled the bible

The Catholics compiled the Bible, true. But the Catholic church will be the first to admit that more than 80% of their doctrines and beliefs are not founded on Scripture. The Catholic church did a lot of borrowing of false doctrines from the Pagans around them.

Examples of Catholic practices and belief that have no biblical basis:

1. use of the rosary - Catholics have this in common with Muslims and some eastern religion.

2. the teaching that Mary did not die but ascended bodily into heaven.

3. Using a wafer for Mass instead of bread and wine.

etc

inspiredbyGOD:.:
And once again, Catholics were not the sole compilers of the bible. Churches worldwide all had a say in the compilation.

it is either you are a barefaced lier or you lack the common sense and knowledge of the bible's historicity. When they say the early church, which church do you think is being referred to? Evangelicals abi na Anglicans. . Lol. . The Early Church and fathers was the Roman Catholic Church and its many Bishops with dissenting views, some accepted the Christ story and some didn't. Go and read about the Niceen Creed to understand fully well who compiled the bible. The Empiror Constantine who was a Pagan, A mithra worshipper because of politics converted into christianity, made it a state religion and infused all manner of hellenistic pegan concept in it, including the believing in the death and ressurection of Jesus as atonement of sin, a concept obviously borrowed from the worship of the sun-God. That's why till this day, many Jewish will always have problem with the concept of Jesus Christ, his death, ressurection or existence. They know Jesus is far from the messiah of their tora and in actuality never existed. The christian purposely set the story to make the jews look bad hence, hence the wide anti-semitism of jewish people for killing their God.

rhymz: it is either you are a barefaced lier or you lack the common sense and knowledge of the bible's historicity. When they say the early church, which church do you think is being referred to? Evangelicals abi na Anglicans. . Lol. . The Early Church and fathers was the Roman Catholic Church and its many Bishops with dissenting views, some accepted the Christ story and some didn't. Go and read about the Niceen Creed to understand fully well who compiled the bible. The Empiror Constantine who was a Pagan, A mithra worshipper because of politics converted into christianity, made it a state religion and infused all manner of hellenistic pegan concept in it, including the believing in the death and ressurection of Jesus as atonement of sin, a concept obviously borrowed from the worship of the sun-God. That's why till this day, many Jewish will always have problem with the concept of Jesus Christ, his death, ressurection or existence. They know Jesus is far from the messiah of their tora and in actuality never existed. The christian purposely set the story to make the jews look bad hence, hence the wide anti-semitism of jewish people for killing their God.

*sigh*

west of time!

I think u shuld make ur research again no catholic will agree that 80% of their doctrine is not is scripture. And im sure as hell no catholic will agree that any of their doctrine is pagan.

honeychild:

The Catholics compiled the Bible, true. But the Catholic church will be the first to admit that more than 80% of their doctrines and beliefs are not founded on Scripture. The Catholic church did a lot of borrowing of false doctrines from the Pagans around them.

Examples of Catholic practices and belief that have no biblical basis:

1. use of the rosary - Catholics have this in common with Muslims and some eastern religion.

2. the teaching that Mary did not die but ascended bodily into heaven.

3. Using a wafer for Mass instead of bread and wine.

etc

in d 3 thing u listed above only no 2 is a matter of doctrine.

honeychild:

The Catholics compiled the Bible, true. But the Catholic church will be the first to admit that more than 80% of their doctrines and beliefs are not founded on Scripture. The Catholic church did a lot of borrowing of false doctrines from the Pagans around them.

Examples of Catholic practices and belief that have no biblical basis:

1. use of the rosary - Catholics have this in common with Muslims and some eastern religion.

2. the teaching that Mary did not die but ascended bodily into heaven.

3. Using a wafer for Mass instead of bread and wine.

etc

lol

but they are better organised than the fake pentecostals and protestants

-one man church where the MOG gets all the tithes for private jets
-tithing
-speaking in tongues without translators
-Pastors with bodygurads
-special prayers for jobs and jobs security
-back to sender prayers
-relaxing of hair for pastors *cough pastor chris*

interesting