Dede1:


I do not believe in the school of thought which states disintegration could only be achieved through war. Countries such as USSR and Czechoslovakia did not engage in a war before breaking up. I have been in a war already during an attempt to disintegrate Nigeria. As it stands now, I am doing my best to keep the desire to disintegrate Nigeria alertly alive among my people.

Was it not my negative contribution get you twisted a little while ago?

thelastPope:

If that is your solution, why not start a war. My position is you should do something, even if it is termed negative. You should act. Not just talk. Thats my take

Eziachi:
What is your definition of doing something? Is it just starting a war and war against who?

thelastPope:

You have to be realistic sometimes and I seriously think you aint realistic right now. There is no way Nigeria will disintegrate after a breakfast meeting or tea party. The only way Nigeria will disintegrate after a dialogue us if something happens out of the blues that will change the present equation of the country. For example, if oil is discovered in the North or something of that nature happens. It will never happen the way you are dreaming it would. I am simply being realistic. If I can, i might start a war, just to disintegrate Nigeria, but I am not in that position to do that now. Maybe the militants will do that someday, but for now, we have to live with the reality on the ground

Dede1:


Pope

Are you insinuating that the goofy One-Nigeria is all about crude oil? I can safely conclude from your post there is no humomanistic measure or cultural tie among the inhabitants of Nigeria that could foster the kind patriotism experienced in USA. If you comprehend the realities of Nigeria, one wonders why you have tempted to juxtapose the jungle called Nigeria with a nation such as USA when talking of lessons about nationhood.

Eziachi: Obama was in Boston within 48 hours in person with his wife to reassure the city and the citizens, in your own case, it took your president 2 years to reach Borno state, only after being blackmailed into it by the opposition governors.

The FBI, state and local police went to work straight with the aid of the public. While in your own case, they changes on who the sponsor of the terror is on a daily basis, mainly their political opponents, while the masses are being murdered. The masses cannot aid the security agencies because they are their enemy number one.

Obama allowed the security agencies to do their job, while they brief him daily. In your own case, even when the dust of the Abuja bombing is yet settled, Jonathan announced that MEND wasn't responsible it. In that case, where do you expect the security agencies to go from there, after such a pronouncement?

In the United State, the security of the masses is number one priority, in your own case their security is at the bottom of the list.

You don't compare a mango to a cassava, as we always rip what we invest. And by the way, Nigeria is not a nation, simply an enterprise.

thelastPope:

The last time I checked, Nigeria was categorized under underdeveloped countries. USA was once worse than Nigeria you know. It is a process. The problem is many of you are not willing to participate in the process. You are demainding for the end result whilst shying away from the process. Who is going to deliver that end result to you? Some of you exhibit a combination of laziness and selfishness; no insult intended. No one denied the problems of Nigeria. What we ask is for solutions and action from every Nigeria. Not this sectional and partisan bickering.

Dede1:


Pope

Of course, the geographical expression called Nigeria is classified as “developing country”. How long shall it remain developing? It was not long ago that few patriotic Nigerians tried to stage fearless actions and their actions were quickly painted as ethnic agenda. Today, the same thing is happening again.

It is easy to write about the symptoms but root causes. The combinations of laziness and selfishness as you have alluded in your post have a root cause.

thelastPope:

And what in your opinion is the root cause if I may ask?

Dede1:


Tribalism!!!! I do not think you are that dumb not to comprehend. Unless you have decided to be deceitful like most Nigerians, you should know the answer to your question. Nigeria shall never become developed country as long as all the ethnic nationalities are housed under the same entity as configured today.

thelastPope:

I completely agree and that is the point of this thread. I was thinking, like many ignorant people on this forum, you will say corruption. I have always argued that corruption itself is a result, not the root cause. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. There will always be corruption as long as there is disunity and division

Eziachi:

Obama was in Boston within 48 hours in person with his wife to reassure the city and the citizens, in your own case, it took your president 2 years to reach Borno state, only after being blackmailed into it by the opposition governors.

The FBI, state and local police went to work straight with the aid of the public. While in your own case, they changes on who the sponsor of the terror is on a daily basis, mainly their political opponents, while the masses are being murdered. The masses cannot aid the security agencies because they are their enemy number one.

Obama allowed the security agencies to do their job, while they brief him daily. In your own case, even when the dust of the Abuja bombing is yet settled, Jonathan announced that MEND wasn't responsible it. In that case, where do you expect the security agencies to go from there, after such a pronouncement?

In the United State, the security of the masses is number one priority, in your own case their security is at the bottom of the list.

You don't compare a mango to a cassava, as we always rip what we invest. And by the way, Nigeria is not a nation, simply an enterprise.

thelastPope:

In life, you have to keep moving. You cant just stand on the sidelines and claim your job is to critic. That is lame and lazy. Talk is cheap. That is my take

No matter how some people criticize Ojukwu, I will always appalud him as someone who acted. We can argue all day if he was right or wrong, but a man who acted is far better than one who does nothing. I will continue to respect militants and other groups whether they succeed or not. The problem with BH is that they really have no genuine or reasonable cause and they attack innocents which makes no sense.

For me, considering the present state of Nigeria, doing something is joining hands together to make things better for ourselves. I have my own political inclinations, but I will support anything that will make life better for all of us, not try to pull the country down just because I want my personal agenda to fly.

Eziachi:
So what have you done than to beat drum for Jonathan and his inept govt? As a 17 year old, I joined and fought for Biafra freedom along with my 3 brothers, father and 3 uncles. My two brothers and one uncle didn't return home and you're busy sitting in front of your computer talking about joining hands. You think I am just a critic or I am lazy?
Ojukwu acted because people like me gave him our practical support, not sitting by the computer singing praise of rogues called politicians. What exactly do you know about real life?

Eziachi:

Obama was in Boston within 48 hours in person with his wife to reassure the city and the citizens, in your own case, it took your president 2 years to reach Borno state, only after being blackmailed into it by the opposition governors.

The FBI, state and local police went to work straight with the aid of the public. While in your own case, they changes on who the sponsor of the terror is on a daily basis, mainly their political opponents, while the masses are being murdered. The masses cannot aid the security agencies because they are their enemy number one.

Obama allowed the security agencies to do their job, while they brief him daily. In your own case, even when the dust of the Abuja bombing is yet settled, Jonathan announced that MEND wasn't responsible it. In that case, where do you expect the security agencies to go from there, after such a pronouncement?

In the United State, the security of the masses is number one priority, in your own case their security is at the bottom of the list.

You don't compare a mango to a cassava, as we always rip what we invest. And by the way, Nigeria is not a nation, simply an enterprise.

Eziachi:
So what have you done than to beat drum for Jonathan and his inept govt? As a 17 year old, I joined and fought for Biafra freedom along with my 3 brothers, father and 3 uncles. My two brothers and one uncle didn't return home and you're busy sitting in front of your computer talking about joining hands. You think I am just a critic or I am lazy?
Ojukwu acted because people like me gave him our practical support, not sitting by the computer singing praise of rogues called politicians. What exactly do you know about real life?

thelastPope:

And what in your opinion is the root cause if I may ask?

HNosegbe: We have a Civil War vet on Nairaland?

thelastPope:

Leave out the rhetoric and discuss reality.

thelastPope:

You are talking nonsense!

ckkris:
He is talking a lot of sense. You better learn from HISTORY, or you make the same presumptions of 'ONE NAJERIA', that very brilliant people made in 1960s, and the whole thing landed in the hands Buhari, Babangida, and Abacha. Long live ONE NAJERIA.

Eziachi:
So what have you done than to beat drum for Jonathan and his inept govt? As a 17 year old, I joined and fought for Biafra freedom along with my 3 brothers, father and 3 uncles. My two brothers and one uncle didn't return home and you're busy sitting in front of your computer talking about joining hands. You think I am just a critic or I am lazy?
Ojukwu acted because people like me gave him our practical support, not sitting by the computer singing praise of rogues called politicians. What exactly do you know about real life?

delvinmaya:
This has got to be the most stupid post ever in the history of forums. Do you really have to stoop so low to fabrications? Damn man. You need to get a grip and get a life.
And as much as most of you will argue that Nigeria is no nation, I laugh at you in Swahili. Truth is your arguments and thoughts don't go beyond this forum. Nigeria has been before you were born and will be after you are long gone. Only posterit can judge Nigeria, not your deluded fallacies. Funny thing is you all got monikers and hide behind it. The day Nairaland servers crashes, that's the day you lose your identities (hoping that in such eventuality, Seun will not have your details backed up). Deluded people. And for your information, the US is as diverse as Nigeria, when you talk about the homogeneous heterogeneous people living there. So shut your trap and ask what you can do for your country to make it great

Afam4eva:


The diversity of the US is different from that of Nigeria.

Afam4eva:
Dude, show some respect. Eziachi is one of the respectable members of this forum and his words are wisdom. If you don't agree with him then counter his arguments without throwing insults.

The diversity of the US is different from that of Nigeria. In Nigeria, there are ethnic groups who speak different languages and sub-ethnic groups who speak different dialects of different languages. In America, everyone speaks English and know no other language except for the immigrant. So, pls don't compare both countries.

delvinmaya:

If as you say he is respectable, then he should behave so, not act like he is doing. Your being respectable hinges on so many things. And if his words were wisdom, I don't see how they affect positively his argument so far. Also me asking him to get a life is not an insult but a call for him to face reality. And Afam, shows your little knowledge of the US. English is their lingua franca, but you have the red indians, the jews,the irish, the french, the hispanic community etc all citizens of the US. As it is, the land belongs to the red indians and yet they have been victimized most.

delvinmaya:
This has got to be the most stupid post ever in the history of forums. Do you really have to stoop so low to fabrications? Damn man. You need to get a grip and get a life.
And as much as most of you will argue that Nigeria is no nation, I laugh at you in Swahili. Truth is your arguments and thoughts don't go beyond this forum. Nigeria has been before you were born and will be after you are long gone. Only posterit can judge Nigeria, not your deluded fallacies. Funny thing is you all got monikers and hide behind it. The day Nairaland servers crashes, that's the day you lose your identities (hoping that in such eventuality, Seun will not have your details backed up). Deluded people. And for your information, the US is as diverse as Nigeria, when you talk about the homogeneous heterogeneous people living there. So shut your trap and ask what you can do for your country to make it great