frosbel:

lol, but hold on , you're the one who cannot provide clues !!

benalvino:

Why are you talking about clues? He gave you clues and explained what the concept of trinity is yet you just came with baseless claim saying they insert it in the scripture which was utter lie... Besides that you can start with John 1:1

benalvino: Frosbel it doesn't make sense to you and I see you still fighting that the bible did not back it up whereas it does... I simply know you have no argument what so ever.

The doctrine is in the bible that is why trinity explains it...

benalvino:

Ur question makes no sense... There is no if God is three... There is only one God. All the miracles you know that happens... People coming back from dead, sea splitting and many more yet you think God doesn't have a plan? Bible made it clear that God manifest in flesh.

nlMediator:

When you read the Bible with a natural mind, the idea of Jesus being God does not seem to hold water. That's why you see people quoting Scritures that seem to contradict the notion. But when you let the Spirit open the Word to you, you see Scriptures that cannot be interpreted in any way besides acknowledging that Jesus is God. I'm hoping I'll find time soon to introduce and discuss some of these Bible passages.

lanrexlan: Simple questions for you bro.
If God is one and three simultaneously, then none of the three could be the complete God.Granting that such was the case,then when Jesus was on earth, he wasn’t a complete God,nor was the "father in Heaven" a whole God.Doesn’t that contradict what Jesus always said about His God and our God in heaven,his Lord and our Lord?Does that also mean that there was no complete god then,between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrection?
If God is one and three at a time,then who was the God in heaven when Jesus was on earth? Wouldn’t this contradict his many references to a God in Heaven that sent him?
If God is three and one at the same time, who was the God in Heaven within three days between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrection?.....Peace

frosbel:

Again, you fail.

God has made himself known to US. What makes you think only you and your cohorts have the Spirit ? Is this not spiritural arrogance ?

Scriptures have been written with simplicity and ease of understanding , it contains no complex made up dogma called the Trinity.

ijawkid: It also baffles when trinitarians who are non-catholics can't believe and accept that mary is the mother of God when they sheepishly agree that God was manifest in flesh.....

Smdh!!!!!

nlMediator:

If Scripture has been made as simple as you claim, why are you spending countless hours discussing its contents?

truthislight:

Because your kind of persons added words of Greek philosophy and made it complex and confussing.

ijawkid: It also baffles when trinitarians who are non-catholics can't believe and accept that mary is the mother of God when they sheepishly agree that God was manifest in flesh.....

Smdh!!!!!

benalvino: @ijawkid you know Jesus created Mary and Mary is just a medium in which he came to earth... If you can show me a bible verse where Jesus called Mary mother then you have a case. Till then your question holds no substance

frosbel:

But if Jesus is GOD , Mary is the Mother of GOD , No ?

frosbel:

But if Jesus is GOD , Mary is the Mother of GOD , No ?

benalvino:

you guys can't seem to grasp anything... Jesus exist before Mary he created her he is eternal he is alpha and omega... And at the right time he became flesh he was God before the incarnation... So how can Mary be the mother of God?

benalvino: in addition to my earlier reply... Consider how Jesus explained His divine nature. When addressing the Pharisees, He asked them: “‘What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?’ They said to Him, ‘The son of David.’ He said to them, ‘How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord’.... If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?’” (Matthew 22:42-45). The Pharisees failed to answer the question correctly because they were thinking about the physical nature of the Messiah. While Christ was a physical descendant of David (cf. Luke 1:32; Matthew 1:1), according to His divine nature He did not have a physical father, since He Himself is before all (John 8:58). In the same way that David could not be the father of the divine Messiah since he called Him “Lord,” Mary cannot be the “Mother of God” since she calls Him “Lord” in Luke 1:38,46-47. The truth is, as Paul explains, “according to the flesh, Christ came” through the patriarchs, David, and, yes, Mary, but according to His deity, He is the “eternally blessed God” who is over all (Romans 9:5).

benalvino:

you guys can't seem to grasp anything... Jesus exist before Mary he created her he is eternal he is alpha and omega... And at the right time he became flesh he was God before the incarnation... So how can Mary be the mother of God?

Ok I start in another way The Son’s existence did not begin with His conception in Mary’s womb. He was alive in eternity (cf. Micah 5:2), and, at the right time in history, He became flesh (John 1:1,14). Paul put it this way: “But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law” (Galatians 4:4). On the other hand, Mary came into a time-bound world long after the creation of the Universe. She, like all human beings, was not eternal. She was not divine, not “from everlasting to everlasting” (Micah 5:2). She could not have provided an eternal nature to her Son. He is Deity. He is the “eternally blessed God” (Romans 9:5) how can U born a God that existed not only exist but created all things? Now U know why Jesus never even called her mother!!

truthislight:

If am a king, my mother becomes the mother of a king.

If Jesus is God almighty mary becomes the mother of God almighty. Yes!



but then, Jesus is not the almighty God.

Jesus is not the Alpha and the Omega.

ijawkid:


You are turning round and round bro.....

If Jesus is GOD in flesh why can't mary whom the scriptures call the mother of Jesus be the mother of GOD??..........

The scriptures call mary the mother of Jesus from the fleshly point of view...for goodness sakes mary carried Jesus for 9 months and pushed him out..............mary called Jesus her firstborn son........

I can see you trying to run away from clear facts which would totally contradict your stance.......

And it is high time we discuss on micah 5:2 and romans 9:5......

Your understanding of micah 5:2 is so warped which would soon be corrected....

and so also for romans 9:5 which has been totally mistranslated to suit the trinity dogma but would at the end of the day contradict it............

Its all about you been ready to get down with the going....

benalvino:

Jesus is our eternal father ERTERNAL FATHER

truthislight:

Yes, that will make her the "mother of God".

frosbel:

Blasphemy !

frosbel:

Blasphemy !

truthislight:

If am a king, my mother becomes the mother of a king.

If Jesus is God almighty mary becomes the mother of God almighty. Yes!



but then, Jesus is not the almighty God.

Jesus is not the Alpha and the Omega.

Debroslink:

You are a fake Christian if you don't worship and serve this Lord God Almighty (John 20:28) who rose 4rm the dead.[/b][/color]

ijawkid:


You are turning round and round bro.....

If Jesus is GOD in flesh why can't mary whom the scriptures call the mother of Jesus be the mother of GOD??..........

The scriptures call mary the mother of Jesus from the fleshly point of view...for goodness sakes mary carried Jesus for 9 months and pushed him out..............mary called Jesus her firstborn son........

I can see you trying to run away from clear facts which would totally contradict your stance.......

And it is high time we discuss on micah 5:2 and romans 9:5......

Your understanding of micah 5:2 is so warped which would soon be corrected....

and so also for romans 9:5 which has been totally mistranslated to suit the trinity dogma but would at the end of the day contradict it............

Its all about you been ready to get down with the going....