RedBenson: O boy that flyover looks real poor and when i say poor, i mean 'POOR' compare to Akwa Ibom own

Okija_juju:

I laugh... Tribalism has no play here. This is purely constructive criticism..

This is an example of what progressive states are building;




Go big or go home.. No time for mediocrity..

[img]http://transformationwatch.files./2013/03/uyo-sweet-2.jpg[/img]


All that needs to happen to Ibadan for that bridge to become a nightmare is for one Governor to bring in policies that boosts the economy of the State and by default infulx of people into the stat and then GBOSAAA!! Traffic nightmare..



This is a new bridge in Akwa Ibom.. Honestly, the state does not need something this big at the moment, but I dont think the Governor expects his state to remain small for too long..


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Red-Light:
okija the bridge looks exatcly like this.

[img]http://transformationwatch.files./2013/03/uyo-sweet-2.jpg[/img]

I dont know, may be there are no professional photographers in Ibadan to take nice pictures

Really!!

If that Mokola bridge a one way bridge, seeing as there is no road divider on it cos if it is, then I apologise for my previous posts..

But if thats a 2-way flyover, with no divider, one lane, arghh!! I see a catastrophe in the making!

One lane bridges remind me of Rumuola and CFC bridges in Port-Harcourt.. Oboy! I never knew that flyovers could worsen an already bad traffic situation..

SO looking at Ibadan.. Which is one of the Top 5 cities in Nigeria after Lagos, Port-Harcourt, Abuja, Kano, I just feel the government should be thinking way ahead..

So I'm sitting in my hotel room, over looking the skyline of Lagos city and I ask myself, wasnt this state developed by Nigerians, why cant other states be like this or even half like this.

SLIDE waxie: dude, it's easier to develop a village than a city. Much cldnt be done at mokola. If u av to pay for compensation to achieve the above, u won't even be left with a dime to construct a thingy! It's different wen u jes bulldoze a few mud houses and some elehant grass.

That shld be a clue to why the capital of Nigeria was moved to abuja where u can plan properly!

I figured that would be an excuse.. well, so what do we do when Ibadan blows up like Lagos?! Move the state capital to Ori ile or what?!

Omo I have been to ibadan.. Break down those houses jor.. The compensation if genuine is not that much.. Those old houses with rusted zinc roofs abi?! In Rivers State, the Governor is doing the exact same thing..

If development must come, the old must make way for the new. If the state is broke, then the government shouldnt be building bridges but rather looking at ways to improve the economy of the state.
Omo!! We need to take an aggressive approch to things in this country. No time to waste time.

Pedagogue: .@ Okija Ojuju aka Mr. Constructive critic, I read your posts and I find your posts very irreconcilable !!!

In 1 bit u said the bridge is a "waste of Ibadan's scarcely available money" and that they should build for the future and not today- AFTER SAYING THAT IBADAN (Oyo State) does not have money, don't you think the bridge is the best the govt can construct with its "scarcely available money " ?

In another bit,u said the state will witness population explosion if a govt with good economic policies come to the fore..and this will render the bridge useless because of traffic nightmare- MY BRODA, HAVE U EVER BEEN TO IBADAN? DO U EVEN KNOW WHY D BRIDGE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN D FIRST PLACE? I think many Niaralanders just post without knowing what they are talking about!!!

@ the pictures of Akwa Ibom, those bridges and roads are superb! In fact, d picture overawes the mokola bridge in question!!! But do u think that's what the state urgently needs! Well, im glad u at least agree that the state does not need "something that BIG at d moment". I stand to be corrected on this- AKWA IBOM IS THE LARGEST EXPORTER OF HOUSEMAIDS AND SECURITY MEN IN NIGERIA! Infact, my maid and security man are from there!!! Are these people in their beautiful 'bridge and flyover constructing city' ? The answer is NO!!! They are all in the small flyover and 'rural like bridges states' like Oyo State - doing Yes Ma and Yes Sir!!!

My point is, u cannot expect Oyo State to give what it does not have!!! D state does not have d big allocation that Akwa Ibom receive...and so cannot give what it cannot afford!!! But if we are to judge Akwa Ibom State (for instance) and the present Oyo state govt based on meeting the yearnings and aspirations of the ppl on the basis of the resources of the states and needs of the people, oyo state govt wud WIN flatly !!!

SLIDE waxie: dude, it's easier to develop a village than a city. Much cldnt be done at mokola. If u av to pay for compensation to achieve the above, u won't even be left with a dime to construct a thingy! It's different wen u jes bulldoze a few mud houses and some elehant grass.

That shld be a clue to why the capital of Nigeria was moved to abuja where u can plan properly!

Okija_juju:



My guy find another excuse. All they have done is create more work for the future generation of Oyo. Ibadan is a state capital for christ sake. If better development enters Oyo, it will start from Ibadan. Now a future generation will have to look for a way to pay more to demolish and compensate (based on the time value of money), then think of how to either build a new flyover around this one or demolish and re-build which will still cost more all because the present generation were myopic to see a big future for the state. Rivers State is suffering from such now.. If only the past governments knew that Port-Harcourt would grow bigger than Borokiri and extend as far as Obigbo today, maybe they would have done alot of things differently. Now the money Rivers State has spent of Demolitions and compensation is enough to make 2 Local government areas enjoy dual carriage ways in all streets, nooks and crannies.


Ask any Port-Harcourt inhabitant about Rumuola flyover.. [/b]

MostIncredible.DFirst:
Shut d fvck-up dia n stop justifying MEDIOCRITY. Wat is d total radius or circumvance of d so-called "flyover"? How many buildin wil hav bin affected if dere was nid 4demolition within dat circumvance? Wat type of buildin are standing there? Are they shanties, n shacks which are d prototype of Ibadan city? or are they skyscrapers?

MostIncredible.DFirst:
Shut d fvck-up dia n stop justifying MEDIOCRITY. Wat is d total radius or circumvance of d so-called "flyover"? How many buildin wil hav bin affected if dere was nid 4demolition within dat circumvance? Wat type of buildin are standing there? Are they shanties, n shacks which are d prototype of Ibadan city? or are they skyscrapers?

django1:

Dude you have no idea. I can assure you that the amount of buildings that will be affected will build three more of this flyover.

Okija_juju: I still insist that this flyover was a waste of Ibadans scarely available money..

A one-lane flyover/bridge and road in 2013 is only fit for rural areas not Urban areas and certain rural areas that would soon be swallowed up by urbanization..


_{Build for the future not for today..}

Okija_juju:


Beautifully said..

So again, lets look at this as a simple debate and not allow our emotions turn things sour here.

SOoooo! Oyo State has little money especially when compared to Akwa Ibom.. #Undisputable. But this is my point. at some point, bigger roads would be needed. Even in this Makola area. then the demolition we didnt do today a 5 naira, we would do it tomorrow at 10. Maybe, the government could have gone out on a limb, paid the compensation, pushed the houses back, expanded the existing road by an additional 2 lanes on each side and allow a future government build the flyover. Many states borrowed the monies with which they are working in their states. If we keep using this allocation excuse, then states like Kebbi and co are eternally doomed I guess. Meaning we should never expect any real development from states outside the Niger Delta, the industrous states in the East like Anambra, Abia, Imo (for Egbema oil money) and maybe Ebonyi (for agriculture), then some Agriculturally active northern and Middle belt states.

Dude! This is 2013.. Such excuses should be chucked in the bin. Even the U.S sef they borrow money to do work. If Oyo is that Poor, sign a 50 year BOT agreement with a company or bank that will finance the project. Lagos is doing it, RIvers is doing it, Akwa Ibom is doing it, and still these states have money, so why cant Oyo do it?!

My guy find another excuse. All they have done is create more work for the future generation of Oyo. Ibadan is a state capital for christ sake. If better development enters Oyo, it will start from Ibadan. Now a future generation will have to look for a way to pay more to demolish and compensate (based on the time value of money), then think of how to either build a new flyover around this one or demolish and re-build which will still cost more all because the present generation were myopic to see a big future for the state. Rivers State is suffering from such now.. If only the past governments knew that Port-Harcourt would grow bigger than Borokiri and extend as far as Obigbo today, maybe they would have done alot of things differently. Now the money Rivers State has spent of Demolitions and compensation is enough to make 2 Local government areas enjoy dual carriage ways in all streets, nooks and crannies.


Ask any Port-Harcourt inhabitant about Rumuola flyover.. [/b]

Gov. Abiola Ajimobi of Oyo State says the Mokola flyover would be open for use on Tuesday after the formal inauguration of the multi-billion project.

dabrake:
come on, multi-billion naira project?

Dotman01: Guy read this:
OYO TO DUALIZE 5 ROADS WITH
N29.3B
The Oyo State Government has
awarded the contract for the
dualization of five major roads that
cut across the state, at the total cost of N29.3 billion.
The construction of the roads was
announced at a joint news
conference at the end of the
weekly executive council meeting
in Ibadan on Monday. The news conference was jointly
addressed by the state
Commissioner for Information, Mr.
Bosun Oladele, his Works and
Transport counterpart, Alhaji Yunus
Akintunde, as well as Special Advisers on Media and Information
and Orientation, Dr. Festus Adedayo
and Gbolagade Busari respectively.
According to the state government,
the roads include the four-
kilometre Ibadan-Oyo Expressway/Iseyin-Oyo Junction to
Owode, as well as the expansion of
the 2.5 kilometre Owode-Akesan-
Palace Road and the sectional
repair of a 3.8-kilometre portion of
the old Ibadan-Oyo Road at the cost of N7,785,840,123.47.
Another project, the government
said, included the dualization of the
6.32-kilometre Ilorin Expressway
Junction-Ikoyi-Takie-Palace-
Ogbomoso Grammar School in Ogbomoso at the cost of
N5,695,147,363.60.
The contract for the dualization of
the 6.2-kilometre Ibadan-Oyo-
Iseyin Junction-Iseyin/Okeho
Junction Road in Iseyin was also awarded by the state government
at the cost of N6,092,448,322.40 to
take care of the major entry to Oke-
Ogun zone of the state.
The dualization of the 7.4-kilometre
Dugbe-Magazine-Eleiyele Road with spurs to Aleshinloye-Onireke/
Agbarigo Road in Ibadan was also
awarded by the state government
at the cost of N7,066,762,166.86.
The state government also said that
its executive council had approved the construction of the dilapidated
Ijokodo-Apete Road, with its
associated two bridges, including
the Apete bridge whose contract
was revoked earlier, at the cost of
N2,649,420,593. The state Information
Commissioner said that the
projects, all of which would be
completed within the next 18
months, were in fulfillment of the
Ajimobi administration’s promise that entrances to major towns and
cities would be dualized to enhance
access.
The Commissioner for Works also
explained that the contract sums
for all the affected roads were inclusive of cost of compensation to
those whose properties would be
affected, relocation of facilities such
as water pipes, electricity poles and
telecommunication facilities, as well
as cost of consultancy.

Gbawe: Is it not amazing it is always non-stakeholders hyperventilating angrily the most on these sort of threads while end users themselves are happy with what is delivered? Can these mischief-maker not appreciate that their insecurity and inferiority complex is glaring with how they always immediately and automatically begin talking of Akwa Ibom and other places on these threads?

Who is childish and unintelligent enough not to understand that Paris and London do not have to be the same as long as Parisians and Londoners are respectively happy with their cities?

Who turns every single topic into a d1ck-comparison contest except an insecure and inadequate person?

If family man makes a big show of claiming he is happy and that what he has is the best, why is he always talking about the wife and kids of his neighbour and looking over the fence into their property? Secure, fulfilled and happy people live and let live.

RedBenson: O boy that flyover looks real poor and when i say poor, i mean 'POOR' compare to Akwa Ibom own

dabrake:
come on, multi-billion naira project?

Okija_juju:


I believe you are the one taking this into another sphere all together..

This is a thread.. Where we all share ideas.. Debate, argue and discuss..

The darn bridge has been built.. All we are doing is analysing what was done.

Remember that we are all gonna pay for these constructions one way or another.. I think everyone is allowed to air their views. This is not political, purely analytical.

Holy shiiit!!


Someone just asssfucked Oyo state governor..

Okija juju: You mean it took them 30 years to build this crap?

Do these Yoruba people realise that we are in 2013!? The era of space travel, super computers, etc.

Even by 1995 standards, this market looks like SHIIT..

Batam: I have observed some posters here no matter what governors of South West do in terms of development are not always goo but they are so ignorant of what the governors in their region are doing with the resources at their disposal.
Construction of Mokola flyover is a laudable project and I don't any of these critics have a technical knowhow and feasibility compare to the engineers that designed the said flyover

Okija_juju: I still insist that this flyover was a waste of Ibadans scarely available money..

A one-lane flyover/bridge and road in 2013 is only fit for rural areas not Urban areas and certain rural areas that would soon be swallowed up by urbanization..


_{Build for the future not for today..}