Imanuelle: What is this one saying

manmustwac: @post
i never really was a christian in the first place. i just reached a certain age thought about religion and it all didn't make sense to me. You said something about talking to God in the last sentence of your first post i want to know how do you know that God is actually talking you and its not your imagination and that your just talking to yourself?

Rhymeyjohn: This thread is directed at those who say they were Christians, but have now wised up beyond the folklore called Christianity. Such describe Christianity as an aberration of sensibility; something sane minds should do away with. They would not accept the dogma of a Jesus walking on water or any other trach as they call it. They speak despicable things about the bible. ‘ We now ‘think outside the box’, we are wiser as atheist’ they say.
A Christian is anybody who believes and follows the teachings and practices of Jesus rom10:9,10; Jh14:24. A Christian is free from all sins and moral infractions 1jh3:9. He/She lives an immaculate life 1pt1:15,16. He is an adopted son and communicates regularly with his Father Rom8:14-18. A true Christian agrees to all these characteristics above.
For the atheist who left the “stupidity of Christianity” this meant you once had a Father, and you were his son, but suddenly, your father, you claim never existed. What an absurdity! The ‘wise atheist’ now claims that his father whom he once knew never existed. Stupidity is an understatement, gullible is rather kind; and such is the ‘out of the box’ wisdom atheism holds high.
Moreover, a Christian communicates regularly with God through Jesus. Communication is a two way process, a back-forth discuss. Except you were making empty rants into the air, or following some dogma that has no real bearing. A Christian asks and it is given to him. Specific request is met with specific response. But for the gullible atheist, someone was probably fiddling with his emotions (since there a physical explanation for everything). God never existed, so prayers cannot be answered by a nonexistent god/God. Even the sinners’ prayer he made to become a Christian could never have been answered since God does not exist; yet he beats his chest claiming he was a Christian, before his I.Q doubled above the silliness of Christianity. It is the height of atheistic foolishness for someone to say he/she was a Christian, only to revert later to say God never existed. A Christian talks to God and He talks back.

musKeeto: How do you jump from 'God exists' to 'Jesus is real'

Rhymeyjohn: After reading up some atheistic/scientific jargon and soaking up Dawkins god illusion, it would be a show of mental deficiency for a Apostle Paul to be convinced that the One who spoke loudly and clearly to him on his way to Damascus does not exist and that someone was manipulating his mind or hypnotizing him. For the atheist, Christianity is a about blind faith and nothing real. Although are so many ‘fake’ Christians, Christians when filling forms; nominal Christians. Such don’t believe and follow the teachings of Jesus, hence THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS IN THE TRUE ESSENCE OF IT. Probably, that’s the category our wised up atheist falls into; He/She only went from confusion to greater confusion.
The ex-Christian atheist not only show inept mental faculty when he affirms that his father never existed but OPENLY DECLARES THAT HE IS A BASTARD. Christians don’t boast of wisdom, they are rather simple and wise unto that which is good rom16:19. But the atheist boasts of his intellectual efficacy and how logic surpasses faith, but is PROUD to acknowledge when the exalted logic falls apart. Rather than make emotional and reactionary screams, the ex-Christian atheist should take some time to retrospect circumspectly on these questions.
- Were you ever a Christian in the true essence of it?
- Have you ever had God as your father?
- Have you ever communicated regularly with your heavenly father?
Its either you are a gullible atheist or you were never a Christian.
N.B: This is not an attempt to denigrate the person of the atheist, but a spade should be called a spade. “Gullible” is a rather kind adjective

Logicboy03:
smh


Another butthurt christian ranting against facts.

There is not one shred of evidence for your God. I was a catholic.

Your bible is incomplete and mistranslated- Books have been omitted and translations not
Your bible contains sexism, racism and genocide.
Your God is fallacious; he is good but yet creates a torture place called hell.

idnoble135:
my beloved "muskeeto"(lol, what a name!), i dont think you are asking me this question to know cos i have observed your comments before and they portray some one who "understand these things". You know about know the trinity, you know the "persons" of the trinity, so if Jesus exists, its realistic to say that he is real. He is real as in, he is someone you can talk to, lean on, cry to for help, etc

musKeeto:

Like an imaginary friend.. Cool.

cold:

idnoble135:
dear, dont want to argue yet but your write up sounds confusing. Are you a catholic or an atheist?

Logicboy03:


U r confused. Isn't it clear that I am an atheist?

cold: Yep true,i was a devout Christian for many years. Living by his word,never questioning because i was made to understand his ways were not our ways. I prayed without ceasing,diligently payed my tithes & offerrings,endeavoured to read my Bible everyday & the other pamphlets & Bible commentaries. Watched tele-evangel programmes,even touched the TV screen more than once as instructed for prayers. Sent monies to keep such tv programmes alive because according to them,keeping such programmes on satellite was an expensive venture.
Then on one quiet night,whilst praying fervently like the prayer warrior i usually am,it hit me! I've been talking to myself. It was my epiphany moment. All these years i've been sold a dummy..gosh ((facepalm)). Suddenly the picture became clearer,everything began to fall in place,i could see clearer now. The Bible turned out to be one big fraud & God..oh well just one big joke. We've all been trolled...
1. He had only one major publication.
2. It was in Hebrew.
3. It had no references.
4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to use human subjects.
10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by drowning his subjects.
11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students failed his tests.
16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
17. No record of working well with colleagues.

cold: Yep true,i was a devout Christian for many years. Living by his word,never questioning because i was made to understand his ways were not our ways. I prayed without ceasing,diligently payed my tithes & offerrings,endeavoured to read my Bible everyday & the other pamphlets & Bible commentaries. Watched tele-evangel programmes,even touched the TV screen more than once as instructed for prayers. Sent monies to keep such tv programmes alive because according to them,keeping such programmes on satellite was an expensive venture.
Then on one quiet night,whilst praying fervently like the prayer warrior i usually am,it hit me! I've been talking to myself. It was my epiphany moment. All these years i've been sold a dummy..gosh ((facepalm)). Suddenly the picture became clearer,everything began to fall in place,i could see clearer now. The Bible turned out to be one big fraud & God..oh well just one big joke. We've all been trolled...
1. He had only one major publication.
2. It was in Hebrew.
3. It had no references.
4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to use human subjects.
10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by drowning his subjects.
11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students failed his tests.
16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
17. No record of working well with colleagues.

kambo:

thats d beauty of christianity. U can dropout and jettison God anytime and He wont threaten u ar com 4 ur life.

u probably were never saved , just followg blind procedures.
Then it occured to u,u were just jumping thru hoops in d name of religion. Anyway, u were honest and bold enuff 2 quit, others like u no mor believ but 4 fear of censure stay with it.

Theyre others who'v experienced God in d tangible way u and fellow atheists seek. Whch makes ur case against is exstence weak.
It cuts both ways broda. Run bck to ur father while u can.

cold: Yep true,

i was a devout Christian for many years.

Living by his word,never questioning because i was made to understand his ways were not our ways. I prayed without ceasing,diligently payed my tithes & offerrings,endeavoured to read my Bible everyday & the other pamphlets & Bible commentaries. Watched tele-evangel programmes,even touched the TV screen more than once as instructed for prayers. Sent monies to keep such tv programmes alive because according to them,keeping such programmes on satellite was an expensive venture.

Then on one quiet night,whilst praying fervently like the prayer warrior i usually am,it hit me! I've been talking to myself. It was my epiphany moment. All these years i've been sold a dummy..gosh ((facepalm)). Suddenly the picture became clearer,everything began to fall in place,i could see clearer now. The Bible turned out to be one big fraud & God..oh well just one big joke. We've all been trolled...

Rhymeyjohn: Although are so many ‘fake’ Christians, Christians when filling forms; nominal Christians. Such don’t believe and follow the teachings of Jesus, hence THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS IN THE TRUE ESSENCE OF IT. Probably, that’s the category our wised up atheist falls into; He/She only went from confusion to greater confusion.

1. He had only one major publication.
2. It was in Hebrew.
3. It had no references.
4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to use human subjects.
10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by drowning his subjects.
11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students failed his tests.
16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
17. No record of working well with colleagues

musKeeto: I think I understand the OP.
How can one claim to 'have a relationship' with a Being only to claim later on such a Being never existed...

Right?

Rhymeyjohn:God never existed, so prayers cannot be answered by a nonexistent god/God. Even the sinners’ prayer he made to become a Christian could never have been answered since God does not exist; yet he beats his chest claiming he was a Christian

Logicboy03:
smh


Another butthurt christian ranting against facts.

There is not one shred of evidence for your God

I was a catholic.

Your bible is incomplete and mistranslated- Books have been omitted and translations not
Your bible contains sexism, racism and genocide.
Your God is fallacious; he is good but yet creates a torture place called hell.

musKeeto: How do you jump from 'God exists' to 'Jesus is real'

Rhymeyjohn: Exactly. think on these from my original post so have you ever God has your heavenly father?

musKeeto:

Yes. I did. I once believed some one was up there answering prayers. I once believed that the Bible was his word. Then I had a few experiences and had to do some research. And I found out the Bible GOD is real like ideas are. Ideas are powerful. You realize that your God's as real as the next man's.

All I had to do was turn off the faith switch...