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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 2:30pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
brodalokie:No Sir, the English were warriors who developed strategy of manoeuvering to victory during war times against their perceived enemies. So it is wasn't about displacement of few Saxons and Jutes but learned language such as Latin, Greek,Spanish,Germanic language by English people that helped shaped their language in the world as a communication tool. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 2:33pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
brodalokie:No Sir, ILE IFE wasn't coined from Life because it meant ‘Vast Land'. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 2:38pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
brodalokie:Sir, they were more spiritually advanced more than us because they know the rules that governs nature. And on the biblical aspects you are claiming is a bit not a natural phenomenon because whatever happened that became documented as Hebrew history had a spiritual touch in it. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 3:35pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
brodalokie: Yoruba is a RACE. If you go visit South America today,what colour complexion do these Yorubas have? Mulattos,Darkskin, pale light people of Yoruba ancestry. So, know it that these same people have dna linked with different groups in the world. In fact, some Yoruba Fa priest in South America are extremely light skin mulattoos. This only proved one thing that the yoruba ancestors had to survived by procreation with Bantoid group and others when they came back to Africa. Secondly, contrary to a lot of people's opinion the YORUBA WORE APRON. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 4:03pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
ImperialYoruba:I appreciate your believe in the work God of our ancestors send us because it is not a work for Olu alone but everyone of Yoruba ancestry who need unravel the mystery of uncertainty of Yoruba history that had been wrapped in myths. Cheers |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 4:10pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
Olu317: One picture can give you a lot of interpretation. Have you ever wondered why people would say that the Yorubas were learned people. Were are getting their education from? From overseas of course. Some of them are studying Koran while others are studying the Bible. English and Arabic students |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 4:18pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
Olu317: Today's Anglo-Americans are yesterday's Anglo-Saxons. It is the same long chain. I am not denying the policy of independence but I am only telling you that the English were royally crewed many times by neighbouring families who molded them into the hybrid superpower they became overtime, they got educated. This is why Boko Haram is not helpful in Nigeria. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 4:20pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
bluke: Yes the Arabs only came back for their lost sheeps Lol |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 4:20pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
ImperialYoruba:Àshé to your prayer unto Élédáà and may Almighty Eledumare grant your heart desire in all ramification. I really appreciate Sir. Cheers |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 4:30pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
Olu317: Those folks were taken from their families to work in plantain and sugarcane farms. They were marrying and given birth to children for cheap labor. Some of them were raped by their white masters or tasks captains and they gave birth to mixed babies for adoption and things. Over time some of them were freed and given lands to settle in or won a lottery into Europe or USA. Yoruba is a tribunal in the black race |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 4:46pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
brodalokie: If you say so but English ancestors were the ones that captured Great Britain's land when the Roman's left which was due to decline of her power In fact, when Jutes and Saxon arrived in East and West side respectively. Unfortunately the Jutes and the Roman -Celts fell out after 7 years of staying under the Roman Empire . They fought a battle at Crayford and the Jutes won a decisive victory. The war went on for several more years but the Celts were unable to dislodge the Jutes. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 5:06pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
brodalokie: Well, what you posited is a bit true because rape, multiple birth for cultivation purposes . But ancient yoruba believed that multiple birth was a genuine to own more land and cultivation for self and commercial reasons . Secondly, No sir, Yoruba is not for Africa but the whole world,because they the group, God promised the world ,who were the ones who will be countless like the sand in the four angle of the world. 1. If you think Yoruba represent Africa, why do the Yoruba have 8% ghost DNA and not like other Africans ? 2. Why does the Yoruba word like ‘bo': come , same as ancient Hebrew not part of any group in the whole of Africa? Well, I do hope you realise that Christianity had been in Africa as far back as 100BC , even in around Sudan axis. This the reason I mock people when I read people chanting Africa as if Africa was strictly for darkskin people in the ancient times..... |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 11:13pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
Olu317: Don't you think the ghost DNA has to do with the mixture with Caucasian fluids? Mind you, the Arabs are also Caucasian but not among the White race. They are grouped with the Asians |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 11:18pm On Dec 14, 2018 |
Olu317: The saxons are Normady Germans with Roman origin. They are all related but the point is that their settlement in the British Isle has paid off. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 4:53am On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie: Im going to jump in here. When you talk about Canaan and Assyria, what was the compatriot name identity in that age for the people now known as Persia and Arab? |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 5:44am On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie: I do not think so because Yoruba people are interwoven with nearly all humanoid in the world which make it a duty call for all these researching group to understudy Yoruba because of folklore, Mesopotemia alike rituals,myth of Creation as likened to Hebrew's. Thus dna tested on Yoruba DNA became another tool to verify Yoruba's claim. As at today, it has been clearly confirmed that Yoruba dna has no trace of Pygmies links which are found in Bantu group in Africa. Does this not surprise you as well ? Despite, Yoruba's link with this people,who are today's neighbour, an even with intermarriages between Yorubas and her neighbours. In fact, a journal on Yoruba is in the archive by Professor David Reich(genetist), who linked Yoruba dna with people of Northern Europe when he did some test of dna trace . So , it is more than Arabs or Caucasians but the world at large. Truthfully, ILEIFE has a case as regard, the myth of being the ancestor of modern human ,which is same as the man ‘Ab'— Ab-Ra- ham, whose history is written in the Book as the FATHER OF ALL NATIONS(The wise ones can key into this fact). Furthermore, the Hebrews aren't a white Race people but the ‘chosen modern humanoid' for spirituality purpose , because archeological evidence showed these ancient Hebrews had wooly Hair in the unearthed Sculpture Heads , with one in the below picture, having a Rabbi's cap on his head which had kind of similar touch likened to the ones found in ILEIFE's Art work . One of sculpture head found in ILE IFE also have a cap on his Head. It is important to emphasis that the pictures of old Hebrew look, who can be called a Rabbi, while the last is Yoruba's sculpture's head found in ILEIFE which curiously is alike . More fact is that some ancient Hebrew sculpture head of men had dreadlocks and hairy Beard which made them ‘ a Non White Race but univeral Race'. As a matter of fact their marriage into Cush/Nubian/Ethiopian/families( Dark skin) clearly showed they have both dark skin link and White skin's lineages. While some gradually metamorphose to lighter skin-closely to white Race due to intermarriage with the Assyrians-Persians. As information is powerful do we know that the present day Jews have never denied their link with darkskin ancestors but always claim that the lost Black Jews they are looking for aren't savages but a unique dark skin people whose history could be linked to Abraham, Dod(daud)—David, etc
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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 7:41am On Dec 15, 2018 |
MetaPhysical: I have not bothered to check. Why |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 8:07am On Dec 15, 2018 |
Olu317: I don't know who is feeding you with strong spirits and stimulation but you are totally missing the point. They are confusing Ham and not Abraham. Ham is the one who founded Egypt and he was dark skinned. The dreadlocks story is a stumble peep of the life of Samson and it doesn't reflect anything African. One day I said I was going to fellowship and a local man with tribal mark said you like money too much. In my mind I said, this is about Lucifer's dreams from the Bible he was thinking big and always getting tied down so he could not achieve his goal. Why will this person try to kill me for going to Bible study instead of staying with somebody who is going to be teaching me local culture? Everything we have is borrowed from the Arabs and Europeans and now Americans |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 10:48am On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie: First of all,the spirit inside me is hereditary so know it that it is an inspiration passed down from eledumarw each 1000+ years from one person to another. Perhaps, you will understand what this mean Secondly, I didn't mixed up the point because you are Afrocentric unlike myself who is human‘centric' through Yoruba's world ; using oral, genetics and ancient Hebrew ‘classical' language Thirdly, loosen yourself to study the Bible you preach very because there information of Ab in the scripture as his name is translated as ‘father',even if the name is a corrupted through translations that passed from old Greek-Roman language. Fourthly, arent Ham-Shem related? Study to show yourself approved of the Bible , Sir. It is not confusion but trying to reconstruct Yoruba's worldview. Let me clear it further with this Yoruba saying: Éni à bà lá Bà ní Báa bá ; Àràbá ni Bà Bà Àbá. As you digest this saying, kindly understand the meaning and its relationship with Middle East Arabia Fifthly if Yoruba is as Afrocentric as you claim, why is whites patronising Ifa priests in South America and every other places in the world? Sixthly, Yoruba have been clothing mortals before you mentioned Arabs. Infact arabs was never an ethnicity. Infact yorubas have made inpact in world development with their footprints,even in US etc but silent about and allow history to reference them as immortals. Verify this view of mine. And If you don't know, try do research on the following Yoruba tradition of among others: Osun worshipers Orisa worshipers Ogun worshipers Cheers |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 1:22pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Olu317: Being human centric as you call it will not say Abraham is a Yoruba man. I am only telling history the way it is. If I had time I can make a good history student-teacher out of you. There are keywords to look at in order to be truly inspired. I am a student myself and also a teacher. White people can buy your local products, trademark or tradition to test drive your upgrade. Shem remains in Asia and Japhet travels far into the vast land of Europe while Ham colonises African land. They are constantly trading intelligence or tradition but their father Noah laid their foundations, blessings and curses. To think that it can change is only a pipedream. Osun Ogun Sango abi papa sango of olden day's WWF Esu abi na undertaker of WWE who's brother is Caine? They are all plagiarism of what their father gave them from Egypt, Babylon and most especially Greece Ogun is Orion (iron) Sango is Zeus or Odin/Thor Esu is Zoroaster or Osiris I think Osun is Uranus or Pusiedon I think The placing of the people always the same on every given circumference in it's four cardinal points and represents a biblical apocalypse horseman with a color and characteristics. They all originate from the middle east. I am glad that you like Hebrew but Don't think that the Jews don't do pagan. They have been screwed by Professors or Prophets of the original scripture passed down from Adam to Noah who cursed Ham for derailing many times for patronizing the Hermes script (intelligence) aka idolatry. It looks like the idolatry is indigenous to local people everywhere, it is the focus of cultural teachings. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 5:06pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie: No, I am not a partisan to Ivri people but like everyone born of God. And specifically you don't understand the traditional songs attached to the worship of the mentioned personalities in my previous post because if you do, you would have realised what's called adornment of jewellery and clothing in Yoruba land, and you would not post your comparison with Greek version that was framed up. Have you not heard of a Greek god man called Atlas that holds the Earth on his shoulder according to their myth? Does this show Greek were more civilize than the ancient Yorubas? A joke it is if you don't know the powers and wisdom bestowed on ancient Yorubas . And is this part of any Yoruba's myth too? The Greek made a lot out of ancient Yorubas cosmology into their history. Furthermore there are things I mayn't over expose but know it that Yoruba language was the language God spoke with Abraham,Moses and when Eausus(Yeusus) spoke on the cross , which is a ritual language . I don't want you to believe it,but look inward to understand the concept of Yoruba language. Again,do know why Yoruba of old always say ; é mí okunrín metà Ogun....Is this not trinity in its brilliance? But Unfortunately, you have no idea of these things because I never said you should compare what Greek conspired as their own Zeus etc as Yoruba's Aramfe—Sango's Oyo version In fact, Og(gwg) existed as a man of war in ancient Rephaim land (Canaan land) and with same meaning with Yoruba's Ogun. Coincidentally, once two words have same root and meaning, it is Cognate in linguistic. So, as far as I am concern , it is not about the spoken Greek-Roman-Latin influenced Language spoken in modern day Israel. Do research on it. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 5:50pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Olu317: Cannan only inherited ancestral teachings from his grandfather who imported the knowledge from the first world. Cain was the first man of war ever recorded and city builder. Some people would confuse either him or his step brother Seth as Orion. In other records he is called Aries the god of war. My point is that Cannan land did not exist during the time Cain walked the earth so whatever we have is a carry over. It is just like a king is going to model after a past ancestor. Ham modelled the Serpent who saw Adam /Noah's unclothedness, Cush models the tree of good and evil and called himself Mercury, Nimrod models Cain a hunter or military aka god of war and began to expand into an empire. It is just ancestral patterns replayed. We also inherit that from them and when Babel was divided people migrated to various parts of the world with different languages but the same purpose. Nimrod divided the lands. All of the the cardinal points in every given area is in their ancient mystical computer. Don't you wonder when you see the map of the world how did they manage to draw it up and used it to navigate the seas. Where did it come from. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 7:32pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Brodalokie, How are you my brother? Happy werkend. I cancelled all my ariya today. Chop here, chop there...different different food and recipe and cooking sef no good for body. It can poison the blood stream if one is not careful....so i took break this weekend. You know what? I like your style of opposition. You are the first person on the opposing side to line up your views and thoughts in a truly intelligent and thought provoking way. Not only are you sharing but you are equally challenging others to reflect. God bless you. Unlike that guy called macof and obalufon III, they are not omoluabi at all but God bless them as well because they are members of my Superior race, the Yorubas. So, from my last post to you two days ago, any verdict? Do you agree now that Yoruba is the most Superior race on earth? 1 Like |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 8:08pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Olu, Have you told them about the meaning of "Aburo"? Where is Metaphysical aand Absolutesuccess? Macof has chased everyone away with his yeye pseudo-proofs. Proof this, proof that....proof that the breast on woman chest produces milk. Upon all that he is yet to proof that Obalufon is an aborigene of Ife. Yeye. Aburo (younger sibling) is an ancient Yoruba word that had its root in their customs back when the ancestors were in Canaan. This custom was mentioned in Bible, but the interpreters screwed up the tradition in their record. Ab-Uro Father - Head Father blesses head. When Isaac placed hand on his young son he conferred on him the rights of the first born, AKOBI. It is from here that child took the name JACOB. The custom lived with us since ancient times. What Jews and their record keepers will hide from you, me and Olu will bring to you. As he show it from Egypt side me I go show am from Mecca side. Allahu Akbar. Yoruba is the most Superior race on earth! 4 Likes |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 8:45pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
ImperialYoruba: I give up for the Yorubas on your account. Cheers 1 Like |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 11:19pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie: Why my brother, why? Let me share a story with you. A couple of years ago some riffraff in US came up with an idea of a BLUEMEN. Whatever the fvk thats supposed to be....but he went ahead and applied for patent and right to the color BLUE. This is most hilarious! Before him someone had tried to patent color BLUE after the invention of Bluetooth. What the freaks dont know is that Yoruba is the owner of the word BLUE. If i tell you the secret behind the BLUE wavelength in the spectrum you will cry. Now, if Yoruba is the owner of BLUE, why dont we have a name for it? We do, people just dont know so they assume. Do you know what ELU is? Yoruba is the most Superior race on earth. I will make Ibo and Hausa bow down and worship Yoruba. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 7:36am On Dec 16, 2018 |
ImperialYoruba: are the yorubas same group as the yathrib pple of canaan that was changed to medina. |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 7:50am On Dec 16, 2018 |
brodalokie: if you mentioned nimrod before all these civilisations, then yorubas superior. Nimrod was there grt grand father. The father of oduduwa. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 8:09am On Dec 16, 2018 |
brodalokie: its called the "cocoa effect". you grow cocoa, you export them. Then you import chocolate and biscuits and you shout kudos to them. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by brodalokie: 10:07am On Dec 16, 2018 |
bluke: You mean the chocolate and biscuits produced by Yale abi OK Food companies in Lagos and Ibadan? Please talk another thing |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 4:29pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
brodalokie: just another african |
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 6:57pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
brodalokie: For clarity of the position you take regarding Arabs and Persians, don't you think it's important to validate successive civilizations vis-a-vis donor civilizations and beneficiary civilizations? How much of what Greeks knew and improved upon for later dissemination was home grown vs foreign knowledge? You have to apply this test to each civilization to the ancient peoples you are discussing about. I might as well clarify for you that in ancient times medicine was not a practice, engineering was not a practice, architecture was not a practice, all the areas of academy and fields of specialization we now compete to excel in were totally absent back then. What we have today are evolutions, perfected through successive eras of world orders to improve humanity and environment. It is imperative that we must enquire and find the means by which ancients treat ailments (Medicine), bend the environment and nature for utility purpose (Engineering), erect monuments and abodes (Architecture), and so on and so forth... The seven musical notes, the seven color band, the seven human senses are all new age physical interpretation of old and ancient knowledge kept by the ancients and recorded in manuscripts of nature as the seven celestial bodies and seven water goddesses, they started from a position of esoteric knowledge and arts, then to sciences....and gradually we are seeing a merger of sciences and esoterism in our own age. They were valid then, they are still valid till today, and will continue to be valid for eternity. 1 Like |
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