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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by xwolverine: 11:03pm On Apr 30, 2018
Henry240:
It seems Nigeria is also buying Helicopters from the US. The story about excess AH-1 Super Cobra could be true.

President Trump just confirmed the US will be selling helicopters to Nigeria and they will be delivered soon.

Maybe he is mistaking it for the Tucano, but who knows?

Potential AH-1 Super Cobra sale to Nigeria.

Longshot, what about congressional approval?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nyaber334: 12:16am On May 01, 2018

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SternProphet: 1:13am On May 01, 2018
Henry240:
It seems Nigeria is also buying Helicopters from the US. The story about excess AH-1 Super Cobra could be true.

President Trump just confirmed the US will be selling helicopters to Nigeria and they will be delivered soon.

Maybe he is mistaking it for the Tucano, but who knows?

Potential AH-1 Super Cobra sale to Nigeria.

When @SternProphet tells you domething, know there is a lot behind it. The AH 1Z was on the horizon before the Super Tucano. Trump has a policy of making money from weapon sales and American aerospace companies are bringing all sorts of upgrade deals out of the woodwork. They may even offer the AH 1W super cobra (not AH 1Z) free of payment for some years.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SternProphet: 1:14am On May 01, 2018
xwolverine:


Longshot, what about congressional approval?

Pls stop this. This one will pass congressional approval even faster then Super Tucano or none may be necessary.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:09am On May 01, 2018
Henry240:
It seems Nigeria is also buying Helicopters from the US. The story about excess AH-1 Super Cobra could be true.

President Trump just confirmed the US will be selling helicopters to Nigeria and they will be delivered soon.

Maybe he is mistaking it for the Tucano, but who knows?

Potential AH-1 Super Cobra sale to Nigeria.

Trump is a salesman. Also, if he wants to appease his base he needs to avoid war. If he avoids war the military-industrial complex will get antsy.

Hence, he needs to make sales.

Blackhawks would probably be more useful than Cobras or Apache's.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 6:11am On May 01, 2018
i am so disappointed we keep buying in paltry sum. makes me think we are a serious defence partner.

any why so much more of this same mi-35 we already have? why not go for a more sophisticated platform?

and why are we not talking about proper air superiority fighters?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 6:12am On May 01, 2018
patches689:


Trump is a salesman. Also, if he wants to appease his base he needs to avoid war. If he avoids war the military-industrial complex will get antsy.

Hence, he needs to make sales.

Blackhawks would probably be more useful than Cobras or Apache's.

why is that?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by xwolverine: 7:47am On May 01, 2018
SternProphet:


Pls stop this. This one will pass congressional approval even faster then Super Tucano or none may be necessary.

I honestly hope so, my reservations comes from previous empty promises and eventual let down.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stephandeswardt: 8:18am On May 01, 2018
Common sense says we buying transport helicopter.....nigerian military lacks that capability ..... am thinking chinooks, black hawks or most likely hueys.....am willing to bet on hueys. We already have mi 25/35 we not going to usa for that.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 8:59am On May 01, 2018
MiddleDimension:


why is that?

NAF lacks transport helo's.

Blackhawks, despite lower payloads, are much more nimble than the Mi-17. Its faster, has a slightly better combat radius and its rotor diameter is much smaller, allowing it to get in and out of smaller LZ's - which is very useful in the cluttered bush.

On the other-hand, the Mi-17 requires less maintenance and is easier to fly, which leads to lower life-cycle costs. It also has an impressive payload.

Nigeria could continue acquiring Mi-17's to make up the bulk of its fleet with a limited order of UH-60's to perform specialist operations, such as CASEVAC, CSAR and similar tasks where speed and maneuverability are essential.

Conversely they could try to get the best of both and focus on the Bell 412.

Either way, Nigeria needs more transport helo's - South Africa has 30+ and that is no where near enough. With a much bigger army, Nigeria should be aiming for a much bigger target. The exact number will depend on ORBAT

#NoMoreSadPigeonsForNAF

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 10:00am On May 01, 2018
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kenpaul0: 10:31am On May 01, 2018
http://sycamoretimes.com/dp-we-still-need-the-tucano-planes/

SternProphet:


When @SternProphet tells you domething, know there is a lot behind it. The AH 1Z was on the horizon before the Super Tucano. Trump has a policy of making money from weapon sales and American aerospace companies are bringing all sorts of upgrade deals out of the woodwork. They may even offer the AH 1W super cobra (not AH 1Z) free of payment for some years.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 11:53am On May 01, 2018
MiddleDimension:
i am so disappointed we keep buying in paltry sum. makes me think we are a serious defence partner.

any why so much more of this same mi-35 we already have? why not go for a more sophisticated platform?

and why are we not talking about proper air superiority fighters?
What paltry sum are you talking about or you are new here
The new 2 delivered is from the total order of 12 (of which 2 has been delivered before)

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gripenc: 2:27pm On May 01, 2018
lionel4power:

what unit is the guy on black?

The first two photos are reconnaissance commandos (sf).

In the first photo they carry the Denel Vektor R5 assault rifle with the FAB setup. In the second photo with just one guy a standard Denel Vektor R5.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 2:38pm On May 01, 2018
patches689:


NAF lacks transport helo's.

Blackhawks, despite lower payloads, are much more nimble than the Mi-17. Its faster, has a slightly better combat radius and its rotor diameter is much smaller, allowing it to get in and out of smaller LZ's - which is very useful in the cluttered bush.

On the other-hand, the Mi-17 requires less maintenance and is easier to fly, which leads to lower life-cycle costs. It also has an impressive payload.

Nigeria could continue acquiring Mi-17's to make up the bulk of its fleet with a limited order of UH-60's to perform specialist operations, such as CASEVAC, CSAR and similar tasks where speed and maneuverability are essential.

Conversely they could try to get the best of both and focus on the Bell 412.

Either way, Nigeria needs more transport helo's - South Africa has 30+ and that is no where near enough. With a much bigger army, Nigeria should be aiming for a much bigger target. The exact number will depend on ORBAT

#NoMoreSadPigeonsForNAF

we should get the mi-17 instead... more payload at lesser price.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SternProphet: 2:58pm On May 01, 2018
lionel4power:


we should get the mi-17 instead... more payload at lesser price.

American stuff is better. Take off , hover, fly, land , day in day out for 25 years. Just regular PDMs required.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:08pm On May 01, 2018
SternProphet:


American stuff is better. Take off , hover, fly, land , day in day out for 25 years. Just regular PDMs required.
The MI-17 terminator is what we actually need. 24 units minimum.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 3:42pm On May 01, 2018
SternProphet:


American stuff is better. Take off , hover, fly, land , day in day out for 25 years. Just regular PDMs required.
that's a personal opinion.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 5:46pm On May 01, 2018
Henry240:
The MI-17 terminator is what we actually need. 24 units minimum.
I agree
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:50pm On May 01, 2018
Covert1:


According to NAF' spokesman the Mi-35m is the most advanced of helicopters in the Mil family of helicopter gunships.
Mi28?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 5:58pm On May 01, 2018
jln115:
Mi28?
he probably meant mi-35 series....
you'll get use to the vagueness in their details.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 7:49pm On May 01, 2018
it appears that Nigeria was secretly operating Apaches and Mi-28 since 2016 ....

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SternProphet: 12:39am On May 02, 2018
lionel4power:
that's a personal opinion.

That's NAF pilots' opinion
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:33am On May 02, 2018
patches689:


NAF lacks transport helo's.

Blackhawks, despite lower payloads, are much more nimble than the Mi-17. Its faster, has a slightly better combat radius and its rotor diameter is much smaller, allowing it to get in and out of smaller LZ's - which is very useful in the cluttered bush.

On the other-hand, the Mi-17 requires less maintenance and is easier to fly, which leads to lower life-cycle costs. It also has an impressive payload.

Nigeria could continue acquiring Mi-17's to make up the bulk of its fleet with a limited order of UH-60's to perform specialist operations, such as CASEVAC, CSAR and similar tasks where speed and maneuverability are essential.

Conversely they could try to get the best of both and focus on the Bell 412.

Either way, Nigeria needs more transport helo's - South Africa has 30+ and that is no where near enough. With a much bigger army, Nigeria should be aiming for a much bigger target. The exact number will depend on ORBAT

#NoMoreSadPigeonsForNAF
70+
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 9:58am On May 02, 2018

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:36am On May 02, 2018
jln115:

70+

I mean medium lift - ie Oryx
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SternProphet: 3:39pm On May 02, 2018
Henry240:

The MI-17 terminator is what we actually need. 24 units minimum.
Black hawk better
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gripenc: 5:21pm On May 02, 2018
First two pics are 4th Artillery Regiment.

3rd pic Paramount Group Mwari / Bronco II.

Last pic: Thailand patrol boats all with the Denel GI-2 20mm cannon in a weapon station.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:11pm On May 02, 2018
Nigerian Army: Victory Is From God Alone!
Borno State the hitherto epicenter of boko haram terrorism and insurgency holds it's first open day workers day celebration in 5 years.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:23pm On May 02, 2018
Brass: Nigeria's Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) Gen. Gabriel Olonishakin along with senior officers of DHQ Abuja meets Gen. Joseph Dunford the US Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS) at the Pentagon, Washington D.C.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 7:41pm On May 02, 2018
jln115:

Mi28?

The NAF says the Mi-35m which it received "are brand new, capable of night fighting and are the most sophisticated of the Mi–series of helicopter gunships".

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gripenc: 9:55am On May 03, 2018
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