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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:06am On Oct 19, 2018
NAF COMMISSIONS ACCOMMODATION FOR PERSONNEL IN BAUCHI

In line with its commitment to continually enhance the welfare of its personnel for effective and efficient service delivery, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) today, 18 October 2018, commissioned 2 additional furnished blocks of 6 x one bedroom flats of single officers’ accommodation at the NAF Base Bauchi. With today’s commissioning, the drive of the current NAF leadership to increase accommodation sufficiency for personnel, especially those serving in the North East, has been given a further boost. Speaking during the commissioning, the Guest of Honour, the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, represented by the Chief of Administration, Headquarters NAF, Air Vice Marshal Kingsley Lar, stated that the project was geared towards enhancing the welfare of personnel to enable them focus on their duties and contribute more meaningfully in adding value to the Service. While congratulating the beneficiaries of the new accommodation, the CAS enjoined them to make the best use of the facilities and also ensure its proper maintenance at all times. Air Marshal Abubakar also seized the opportunity to thank the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Muhammadu Buhari for the continued support that had enabled the NAF record numerous remarkable feats within the past 3 years.

Earlier in his welcome address, the Commander 251 Base Services Group Bauchi, Group Captain Mohammed Aliyu, expressed appreciation to the CAS, under whose visionary leadership the NAF has been soaring to greater heights. According to him, the newly commissioned project would further reduce the burden of accommodation on the Base. Dignitaries at the commissioning ceremony included the representative the Bauchi State Governor and Special Adviser on Security, Brigadier General Yusuf Ladan retired as well as the Commandant Nigerian Army Armoured School and Comptroller Nigeria Immigration Service Bauchi State, among others. It would be recalled that the NAF had, in July this year, also commissioned 2 blocks of Commanders’ Quarters, one block of 6 x 2 bedroom Married Senior Non-Commissioned Officers’ (NCOs) Quarters, one block of 10 x single room NCOs’ accommodation in NAF Base Bauchi to boost the morale of troops engaged in the counter terrorism operations in the North East and other internal security operations across the country.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:07am On Oct 19, 2018
Henry240:
It seems the problems at Denel keeps getting compounded.


https://www.businesslive.co.za/amp/bd/national/labour/2018-10-18-denel-workers-protest-over-news-they-may-not-be-paid-in-november

Denel workers protest over news they may not be paid in November
The Zuma years have hit SOEs hard, Denel, Eskom, SAA etc etc all in ruins thanks to corruption.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Centrifude(m): 10:22am On Oct 19, 2018
Henry240:
It seems the problems at Denel keeps getting compounded.


https://www.businesslive.co.za/amp/bd/national/labour/2018-10-18-denel-workers-protest-over-news-they-may-not-be-paid-in-november

Denel workers protest over news they may not be paid in November

From bad to worse

https://ewn.co.za/2018/10/15/dept-sa-in-talks-
with-saudi-arabia-over-buying-a-portion-of-denel
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 11:07am On Oct 19, 2018
Centrifude:


From bad to worse

https://ewn.co.za/2018/10/15/dept-sa-in-talks-
with-saudi-arabia-over-buying-a-portion-of-denel

What is "worse" about that? Denel is not a stranger to such deals, as is evident with Rheinmettal Denel Munitions. The only problem with Saudi Arabia is it's human rights record, and how that might negatively affect Denel and SA outside of the Middle East region.

There is supposedly a behind the scenes fight between Saudi Arabia and Qatar in getting a stake in Denel.

There were moves about 10 years ago by MBDA to buy a majority stake in Denel Dynamics. This was refused as SA did not want to part with its missile IP. That is strategic. Armoured vehicles and ammunition are another story. I suspect the likes of Denel Dynamics will again be off the cards in any deal.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Centrifude(m): 12:39pm On Oct 19, 2018
ssaengine:


What is "worse" about that? Denel is not a stranger to such deals, as is evident with Rheinmettal Denel Munitions. The only problem with Saudi Arabia is it's human rights record, and how that might negatively affect Denel and SA outside of the Middle East region.

There is supposedly a behind the scenes fight between Saudi Arabia and Qatar in getting a stake in Denel.

There were moves about 10 years ago by MBDA to buy a majority stake in Denel Dynamics. This was refused as SA did not want to part with its missile IP. That is strategic. Armoured vehicles and ammunition are another story. I suspect the likes of Denel Dynamics will again be off the cards in any deal.

Denel Is a strategic State asset.

It would make more sense to Co-fund and develop Certain Weapon Systems but not to actually allow them to own a piece of Denel.

Denel needs proper leadership and people who will be able to Manage funds an invest in weapon system that are guaranteed to bring in money.


Nigeria can be a great market for Denel, we should be shipping 100s of Mokopa and ingwe missiles to them. I haven't heard of or seen evidence of Nigeria Nigeria using Man portable guided missiles, so we could offer them the new Man portable ingwe missile launch system.

We don't need to go to Middle east to beg for funds when we already have everything we need here in Africa.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu2: 12:56pm On Oct 19, 2018
TPDF amphibious exercise recently. IIRC,those are Chinese M 63 with the 105 cannon. Looks like a btn level exercise,Idk they had a LST! Good to see people these parts are practicing such complex manoeuvres.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu2: 1:37pm On Oct 19, 2018
Wow! A book on Op Linda nchi by the brass came out 2015 and I had no idea! Haven't read it yet but it seems they're not sparing anyone including their serving colleagues.

Hopefully it explains the strategic demands of the Lamu to Douala Port ,the TransAfrica road/rail/pipeline land bridge whose construction is ongoing. With at least 3 k AS fighters just a few kms from Lamu that gov had to protect the route-Op Linda Nchi was born.
Forget Western media BS like this:
adding to the confusion about the motives and interests involved in the invasion, cables made public by WikiLeaks show that the US warned Kenyan authorities against launching an offensive into southern Somalia. ‘Taken as a whole, they (i.e. the cables) seem to lend credence to Washington's claim that it has neither encouraged nor supported the invasion’. Instead, the cables show that Kenyan officials were very eager to start an invasion into Somalia and establish a buffer zone in the area known as Jubaland (Boswell 2011 Boswell, Alan. 2011. Accessed December 3, 2013.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/11/18/130739/wikileaks-us-warned-kenya-against
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[Google Scholar]
). Interviews with US government officials also indicate that ‘Kenya did not coordinate its invasion plans with the Obama administration’. Moreover, the Los Angeles Times quotes ‘a senior US officer (who) said that the action caught the Pentagon by surprise’ (Cloud and Dilanian 2011 Cloud, David, and Ken Dilanian. 2011. “Accessed December 3, 2013.”
http://www.articles.latimes.com/print/2011/nov/17/world/la-fg-us-somalia
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[Google Scholar]
). The Kenya specialist, David Throup, agrees with the official US interpretation that the invasion was a surprise to the Washington government, and he even adds that ‘American and British officials had discouraged the Kenyan government from intervening […]’ (

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu2: 1:38pm On Oct 19, 2018
Double post
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 3:06pm On Oct 19, 2018
Saudi's trying to diversify their PGM suppliers. They'll likely push hard for this deal after the Khashoggi assassination.
The Prince knows he'll only barely survive this because Trump backs him.
There's strong support in Congress for sanctions from both parties.

If Denel played this right they could secure funding to finish some projects and bring more products to market. If they don't find a international partner I seriously doubt that Denel will still be in business 5 years from now.
I'd still prefer a deal with Qatar though. They're far from being angels on human rights, but at least they operate more under the radar than the Saudi's.
Qatar also operates 4 different fighter aircraft. This means that we could possibly get systems qualified on Mirage 2000,F-15,Eurofighter and Rafale. Maybe also Mokopa on their Apaches.
Throw in the SAAF Gripens/Hawks and you've got a lot of aircraft covered.
They could also set-up training facilities in SA. Qatar has limited airspace for this and they could stage aircraft at OTB for weapons training/qualification and joint exercises with SAAF.


ssaengine:


What is "worse" about that? Denel is not a stranger to such deals, as is evident with Rheinmettal Denel Munitions. The only problem with Saudi Arabia is it's human rights record, and how that might negatively affect Denel and SA outside of the Middle East region.

There is supposedly a behind the scenes fight between Saudi Arabia and Qatar in getting a stake in Denel.

There were moves about 10 years ago by MBDA to buy a majority stake in Denel Dynamics. This was refused as SA did not want to part with its missile IP. That is strategic. Armoured vehicles and ammunition are another story. I suspect the likes of Denel Dynamics will again be off the cards in any deal.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 19, 2018
lionel4power:
Exercise IBSAMAR VI 2018, 01 to 15 October 2018

Exercise IBSAMAR VI 2018 is a Multinational Maritime Exercise held between Brazil, India and the Republic of South Africa every four years.


Correction: IBSAMAR is held every 2 years. The other naval exercises (with the Air Force and sometimes SF) also held every 2 years are Good Hope (with Germany and sometimes some other NATO Navy), Atlasur (with Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay -sometimes with Namibia and Angola as observers), and Exide (with France -sometimes Mozambique and Tanzania as observers).

It's a brilliant schedule as it allows the SA Navy to have 2 major exercises every year. Also worth pointing out that IBSAMAR, ATLASUR and EXIDE are held rotationally amongst the participating countries. EXIDE obviously not in France, but out of the French Indian Ocean overseas département of La Réunion.

4 Special Forces Regiment ("Iron Fist from the Sea" ) colloquially known as 4Recce used to participate in all the maritime exercises whilst the Navy was standing up its MRS (Marines). They're gradually being withdrawn as they're a strategic unit and will only participate if the lead nation in any of the exercises decides to include its own SF. Tactical roles like VBSS etc are being left to the MRS.

PICS: 4Recce

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:12pm On Oct 19, 2018
Henry240:
Although i think the Ahrlac looks like a potato grin grin


It's not a bad aircraft at all for border patrol, maritime patrol and COIN operations.

It's an Air Craft the Nigerian navy and Immigration should consider.

From your lips to the ears of the decision-maker to whom Paramount gave this model! cheesy

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:56pm On Oct 19, 2018
grin grin grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:10pm On Oct 19, 2018
kikuyu2:
Wow! A book on Op Linda nchi by the brass came out 2015 and I had no idea! Haven't read it yet but it seems they're not sparing anyone including their serving colleagues.

Hopefully it explains the strategic demands of the Lamu to Douala Port ,the TransAfrica road/rail/pipeline land bridge whose construction is ongoing. With at least 3 k AS fighters just a few kms from Lamu that gov had to protect the route-Op Linda Nchi was born.
Forget Western media BS like this:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/11/18/130739/wikileaks-us-warned-kenya-against
.
[Google Scholar]
). Interviews with US government officials also indicate that ‘Kenya did not coordinate its invasion plans with the Obama administration’. Moreover, the Los Angeles Times quotes ‘a senior US officer (who) said that the action caught the Pentagon by surprise’ (Cloud and Dilanian 2011 Cloud, David, and Ken Dilanian. 2011. “Accessed December 3, 2013.”
http://www.articles.latimes.com/print/2011/nov/17/world/la-fg-us-somalia
.
[Google Scholar]
). The Kenya specialist, David Throup, agrees with the official US interpretation that the invasion was a surprise to the Washington government, and he even adds that ‘American and British officials had discouraged the Kenyan government from intervening […]’ (
Can you identify the rifle in the picture.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:10pm On Oct 19, 2018
Sizzorkay:
It's sad how such thing seem to delight some people, our soldiers died, our soldiers, but that doesn't seem to matter to some.
Some sad person just posted comments on here with a laughing emoji, like really? next to comments about our troops being attacked or running from the enemy, this is sad.
I'm not sure what's so funny about it, i don't get that. Bad leadership or not, those boys fighting and dying there are doing it for our country, least we could do is show some respect and honor their sacrifice, not laugh about it.
How freaking pathetic
lovely comment.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:15am On Oct 20, 2018
61mech:
Saudi's trying to diversify their PGM suppliers. They'll likely push hard for this deal after the Khashoggi assassination.
The Prince knows he'll only barely survive this because Trump backs him.
There's strong support in Congress for sanctions from both parties.

If Denel played this right they could secure funding to finish some projects and bring more products to market. If they don't find a international partner I seriously doubt that Denel will still be in business 5 years from now.
I'd still prefer a deal with Qatar though. They're far from being angels on human rights, but at least they operate more under the radar than the Saudi's.
Qatar also operates 4 different fighter aircraft. This means that we could possibly get systems qualified on Mirage 2000,F-15,Eurofighter and Rafale. Maybe also Mokopa on their Apaches.
Throw in the SAAF Gripens/Hawks and you've got a lot of aircraft covered.
They could also set-up training facilities in SA. Qatar has limited airspace for this and they could stage aircraft at OTB for weapons training/qualification and joint exercises with SAAF.



Spot on! I'd much prefer the 49% being sold to Qatar myself. As you say, all those unfinished products need some real wonga to finalise and bring to market.
But before all that, some rationalisation is needed. Not the asinine suggestion by some here that Denel get into civilian products.
For example, why do Denel Mechem, Denel Land Systems and Denel Vehicle Systems exist as 3 separate companies?
Ditto for Denel Aeronautics and Denel Aerostructures.
Why has Denel S3 been established when it simply replicates an existing structure at the CSIR?
Why is Denel Industrial Properties a separate company when it could simply be a division run out of Head Office/Denel SOC?
Why does Denel SOC have all those executives supposedly overseeing the various "divisions", when in reality they're all subsidiaries with their own boards and executive teams?

The sad reality is that like all other state-owned enterprises, the Zuma years saw Denel being re-purposed not to improve efficiencies, but to enable looting and cushy jobs for all sorts of useless scoundrels.

We need to fix all this damage before entertaining any private investor. And judging by how they've conducted their JV with Sasol, the Qataris seem to have far more business sense than the profligate Saudis who seem to only be eyeing the IP in the various Denel companies.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 10:23am On Oct 20, 2018
Field0Marshall:

Can you identify the rifle in the picture.

SCAR-H with the Rangers and specops.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 10:39am On Oct 20, 2018
frumentius:


Correction: IBSAMAR is held every 2 years. The other naval exercises (with the Air Force and sometimes SF) also held every 2 years are Good Hope (with Germany and sometimes some other NATO Navy), Atlasur (with Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay -sometimes with Namibia and Angola as observers), and Exide (with France -sometimes Mozambique and Tanzania as observers).

It's a brilliant schedule as it allows the SA Navy to have 2 major exercises every year. Also worth pointing out that IBSAMAR, ATLASUR and EXIDE are held rotationally amongst the participating countries. EXIDE obviously not in France, but out of the French Indian Ocean overseas département of La Réunion.

4 Special Forces Regiment ("Iron Fist from the Sea" ) colloquially known as 4Recce used to participate in all the maritime exercises whilst the Navy was standing up its MRS (Marines). They're gradually being withdrawn as they're a strategic unit and will only participate if the lead nation in any of the exercises decides to include its own SF. Tactical roles like VBSS etc are being left to the MRS.

PICS: 4Recce

thanks for the correction.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:58am On Oct 20, 2018
kikuyu1:


SCAR-H with the Rangers and specops.
I had that feeling, but I was thinking it was Scar L
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:45pm On Oct 20, 2018
Welcome to the First War Zone Ebola Crisis

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/10/18/welcome-to-the-first-war-zone-ebola-crisis/amp/


PICS: an all female RSABATT patrol, for you Nemesis8u grin grin grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 3:58pm On Oct 20, 2018
frumentius:
Welcome to the First War Zone Ebola Crisis

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/10/18/welcome-to-the-first-war-zone-ebola-crisis/amp/


PICS: an all female RSABATT patrol, for you Nemesis8u grin grin grin

I'm not a fan of woman in combat,for obvious reasons and I'm not looking to rehash anything but damnnnn those are quality pix!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 5:02pm On Oct 20, 2018
What unit is that ?
I'm not totally opposed to women deployed in a combat zone (i'm in favour of all female units though) , but damn, some of those girls are a bit on the heavy side !
I'd have the same opinion if they were male soldiers in that shape btw.
Its one thing to bring them out for the odd photo op when they're stateside, but that's a combat zone. A lack of fitness can get you killed.
Some of the units that got into trouble at Bangui had to run for their lives or get slaughtered. No joke.
You cant compromise on fitness. There's no way in hell some of these ladies get through the first 2 hours of Vasbyt.




frumentius:
Welcome to the First War Zone Ebola Crisis

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/10/18/welcome-to-the-first-war-zone-ebola-crisis/amp/


PICS: an all female RSABATT patrol, for you Nemesis8u grin grin grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:29pm On Oct 20, 2018
frumentius:


From your lips to the ears of the decision-maker to whom Paramount gave this model! cheesy
Do you know how to read at all?

Why would the Nigerian Air Force consider the Mwari when the service has a much better CAS platform?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:32pm On Oct 20, 2018
frumentius:


Spot on! I'd much prefer the 49% being sold to Qatar myself. As you say, all those unfinished products need some real wonga to finalise and bring to market.
But before all that, some rationalisation is needed. Not the asinine suggestion by some here that Denel get into civilian products.
For example, why do Denel Mechem, Denel Land Systems and Denel eyeing the IP in the various Denel companies.

Well, DICON is not the defence company struggling to buy tissue papers for it's staff.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:35pm On Oct 20, 2018
Nigerian Air Force soldiers

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 6:39pm On Oct 20, 2018
Henry240:


Well, DICON is not the defence company struggling to buy tissue papers for it's staff.

And it never will be a defence company struggling to buy tissue paper for it's staff.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 6:49pm On Oct 20, 2018
Official Jane's article after the AAD pics...

https://www.janes.com/article/83909/rg31-gets-trt-30-weapon-system

South Africa’s Denel Vehicle Systems has developed, using internal research and development funding, a new version of its RG31 Mk5 4×4 mine protected vehicle as a mobile gun platform called the Ibululu.

The baseline RG31 is typically used as an armoured personnel carrier (APC) with the troop compartment extending to the rear.

On the rear of the Ibululu, however, is the Denel Vehicle Systems Tactical Remote Turret 30 (TRT-30), which in this configuration is armed with the Russian 30 mm 2A42 dual-feed cannon and a 7.62 mm co-axial machine gun (MG). These weapons are laid onto the target by the gunner seated in the protected cab using a flat-screen man machine interface (MMI) and twin control handles.

TRT-30 traverse is powered through a full 360°, with weapon elevation from -15 to +55 degrees at a speed of 55° per second. The actual depression can depend on the platform it is fitted to, as this may be limited by hull top obstructions. If required, prohibited zones can be programmed into the system so that any obstructions, for example on the roof of the platform, can be avoided.

An automatic target tracker (ATT) is fitted for increased accuracy while the platform is moving. The sighting system consists of a stabilised day camera with a continuous zoom from 2.5 to 22.5°, a thermal camera with similar capabilities, and an eye-safe laser rangefinder. The latter has a maximum range of 10 km (6 mi).

Denel Vehicle Systems said the Ibululu platform has a gross-vehicle weight (GVW) of 14,500 kg (16 tons), of which 2,000 kg is payload.

Its front-mounted protected power pack is a Cummins QSB diesel developing 205 kW, coupled to an Allison 3000 SP fully automatic five-speed transmission and Axle Tech BT600R transfer box.

Maximum road speed is quoted as 100 km/h (62 mph) and the Axle Tech 4000 (5G) suspension enables cross-country mobility.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 6:53pm On Oct 20, 2018
61mech:
What unit is that ?
I'm not totally opposed to women deployed in a combat zone (i'm in favour of all female units though) , but damn, some of those girls are a bit on the heavy side !
I'd have the same opinion if they were male soldiers in that shape btw.
Its one thing to bring them out for the odd photo op when they're stateside, but that's a combat zone. A lack of fitness can get you killed.
Some of the units that got into trouble at Bangui had to run for their lives or get slaughtered. No joke.
You cant compromise on fitness. There's no way in hell some of these ladies get through the first 2 hours of Vasbyt.





I may be completely wrong here, and I'm not speaking from any point authority. But I reckon one or two of those female troops may have been taken out of their typical roles and put into that particular patrol to "make up the numbers". I believe those pics were taken on women's day.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by EMW01: 10:21am On Oct 21, 2018
kikuyu2:
Wow! A book on Op Linda nchi by the brass came out 2015 and I had no idea! Haven't read it yet but it seems they're not sparing anyone including their serving colleagues.

Hopefully it explains the strategic demands of the Lamu to Douala Port ,the TransAfrica road/rail/pipeline land bridge whose construction is ongoing. With at least 3 k AS fighters just a few kms from Lamu that gov had to protect the route-Op Linda Nchi was born.
Forget Western media BS like this:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/11/18/130739/wikileaks-us-warned-kenya-against
.
[Google Scholar]
). Interviews with US government officials also indicate that ‘Kenya did not coordinate its invasion plans with the Obama administration’. Moreover, the Los Angeles Times quotes ‘a senior US officer (who) said that the action caught the Pentagon by surprise’ (Cloud and Dilanian 2011 Cloud, David, and Ken Dilanian. 2011. “Accessed December 3, 2013.”
http://www.articles.latimes.com/print/2011/nov/17/world/la-fg-us-somalia
.
[Google Scholar]
). The Kenya specialist, David Throup, agrees with the official US interpretation that the invasion was a surprise to the Washington government, and he even adds that ‘American and British officials had discouraged the Kenyan government from intervening […]’ (

As I Kenyan i have to admit that we are bogged down in Somalia. Operation Linda started in 2011 we are still there in 2018. Alshabab is still a credible fighting force and worse still it has transformed from a purely Somali terror group to one that is increasingly transnational with numerous Kenyans.
The current strategy is not sustainable. We can't be in Somalia forever. There needs to be a change in strategy and approach.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 2:07pm On Oct 21, 2018
EMW01:


As I Kenyan i have to admit that we are bogged down in Somalia. Operation Linda started in 2011 we are still there in 2018. Alshabab is still a credible fighting force and worse still it has transformed from a purely Somali terror group to one that is increasingly transnational with numerous Kenyans.
The current strategy is not sustainable. We can't be in Somalia forever. There needs to be a change in strategy and approach.

No. The planners knew all along the KDF would need a reinf. brigade in theatre for the foreseeable future to ensure security for the LAPPSET project. There was no other way-you do realise the importance of the TransAfrica landbridge and how it ties in with the Global one belt one road?

This is a future Suez/Panama canal:the geopolitical implications are continental and global. Think forward!

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 2:17pm On Oct 21, 2018
61mech:
What unit is that ?
I'm not totally opposed to women deployed in a combat zone (i'm in favour of all female units though) , but damn, some of those girls are a bit on the heavy side !
I'd have the same opinion if they were male soldiers in that shape btw.
Its one thing to bring them out for the odd photo op when they're stateside, but that's a combat zone. A lack of fitness can get you killed.
Some of the units that got into trouble at Bangui had to run for their lives or get slaughtered. No joke.
You cant compromise on fitness. There's no way in hell some of these ladies get through the first 2 hours of Vasbyt.





In WW 2 the Japs insisted they didn't murder any of the 70k US/Phils' POWs during the 100 km Bataan death march to camps in April 1942. t least 6000 died and the Japs swore it was their lack of physical fitness of typical garrison troops. In the Korean war the UN kicked arse til the Yalu in 1950 IIRC,the Chinese border. Mao sent in his boys and they had to retreat as fast as possible. Most US prisoners were taken at this time as they couldn't keep up with their units.
Its a problem staying fit in normal demands of operations but[b] time must be found.[/b] Btw,military cadets usually gain weight after graduation.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by EMW01: 3:08pm On Oct 21, 2018
kikuyu1:


No. The planners knew all along the KDF would need a reinf. brigade in theatre for the foreseeable future to ensure security for the LAPPSET project. There was no other way-you do realise the importance of the TransAfrica landbridge and how it ties in with the Global one belt one road?

This is a future Suez/Panama canal:the geopolitical implications are continental and global. Think forward!

The LAPPSET project has basically stalled due to lack of funding. Uganda has shifted it's oil pipeline from Lamu to a Tanzanian route. Basically LAPPSET can only serve :
1. Ethiopia (which has access to the sea from Djibouti and has started mending fences with Eritrea
2. South Sudan( a failed state)

As regards planning of the operation.... I sincerely doubt that they made any strategic calculations about the long term implications. Larges areas within Kenya are no go zones in Madera, Wajir, Garissa and Lamu. The funding for KDF in Somalia comes from the EU and USA . Do you honestly think that they will continue funding AMISOM forever.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 3:29pm On Oct 21, 2018
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