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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 4:53am On Dec 28, 2017
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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by johnydon22(m): 7:00am On Dec 28, 2017
4kings:
Happy birthday Johnydon22 smiley

Thank you boss

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by noblefrank31(m): 5:13am On Dec 29, 2017
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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by lilliesboy(m): 1:41am On Jan 02
The Kolo Youth Visionary Association (KYVA) programme is to hold today (Tuesday) at the Kolo II Town playground/townhall in Ogbia by 4pm to around 10:30pm. This year's debate topic is: "Omite onighe oni ah kill mi'ga ayen var amite aru" (i.e. The success or failure of an individual is determined by the given NAME she/he bears in life). In other words, does the name one bears have an effect on you or determines one's success/failure in life?

The motion will be mainly debated in the Ogbia (Kolo) language by at least eight debaters (four against four). Am one of the debaters and my team (which includes my maternal uncle - Mr. Praisegod "Oweifa" Godfrey, and others) will be OPPOSING the motion of the debate. I will also participate in the drama section.

I think my major challenge will be being unable to speak the Ogbia language fluently as well as, using the correct/suitable word in translating some English concepts and which may affect the message I pass across. It is going to be entertaining and educative, so you are all invited.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by kingmarv(m): 9:15pm On Jan 20
Why can't some people understand by common sense that it is simply evil to be unforgiving. It is true that some people are actually hostile to others because of economic, ethnic, tribal and racial reasons and morality teaches them to maintain peace.

But my major worry is that some people claim to be worshipping a deity that teaches them through their religious doctrines to be violent and shed innocent blood to establish their territory or dominate others, without knowing that they are being brainwashed by Satan to carry out his wicked will.

If you know that you are walking on the right path and what you believe is superior to mine, then why must you use force on me to follow you? Can't common sense let you know that it is because you lack truth in what you believe that is why you are using force on me? What about dialogue? Can't you sell what you believe peacefully with me and allow me to make my choice whether to follow you or not based on my conviction? And if I don't do you have to kill me?

Wait a minute and answer the following salient questions;

Is the one you worship a creator of life? If no. Why do you worship him? If yes. Why do you take life that he created and still believe that you are pleasing him? Or do you want to tell us that the one you worship only created some few who are his original believers? If you believe he created all men then why can't common sense let you know that the creator is a lover of his creatures and that whoever destroys any of them commits capital sin against him? Imagine you watching your biological child being killed right in your presence.

It is because you want people to believe a deity you worship that you are fighting and killing them for him.. Can't common sense tell you that you have reduced him to less than a man that you are? I believe someone should be all powerful to be worshipped.

If only some people can think wisely and objectively they will do away with whatever they believe that will make them to promote crisis an terrorism like a man will drop a hot iron from his hand.

Refuse to be afraid of the persecution you might have to face by your relations when you say no to falsehood. The God of truth and peace will shield you from their attacks. The fear of persecution is the major thing that is keeping some people in falsehood.

Dump any religious, traditional, tribal, racial or ethnic teachings that promote unforgiveness, hatred, violence, war, which ultimately result in shedding of innocent blood and embrace the teaching of peace and justice.

I recommend to you such teaching of peace and justice under the umbrella of Christianity. I will not come after you even if you refuse to believe me because my Master told me to be at peace with you. He loves sinners and His eternal expectation is that they will one day come to Him before the end of time. He values His blood that He shed for the remission of the sin of the whole world.

Peace be still in Nigeria.

Jesus is Lord!

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by vaxx: 3:55pm On Jan 27
A traditionalist is saying hi? i will like to meet my fellow brethren here.

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Deo1986(m): 7:35pm On Jan 28
I entered this thread thinking i'll find meaningfu interactions, only to see meaningless posts and discusions. Guess whoever created this page was not serious enough. I'm out of here..................
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 3:17pm On Feb 06
@ Tozara

Wanted to ask if you still have the full 'God Series' by Mike Hockney. The blog where they were shared has been closed by the owner. I lost all the books when my hard drive got wiped but I want to read some again and start some of the books I never read at all. Sent you a mail a while back but didn't get a reply
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Tozara(m): 3:30pm On Feb 06
AnonyNymous:
@ Tozara

Wanted to ask if you still have the full 'God Series' by Mike Hockney. The blog where they were shared has been closed by the owner. I lost all the books when my hard drive got wiped but I want to read some again and start some of the books I never read at all. Sent you a mail a while back but didn't get a reply
I'm very sorry about that, boss. You know I've opened many nairaland accounts in the past, so apart from my main e-mail account, I never check some of those e-mails again (because they're many), and unless I have it on the G-mail app on my phone, I'll never know that I've got a mail. I didn't reply because I didn't see it. Sorry about that.

So, yeah, I still have the books. I'm sending you a PM right away.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 3:33pm On Feb 06
Tozara:
I'm very sorry about that, boss. You know I've opened many nairaland accounts in the past, so apart from my main e-mail account, I never check some of those e-mails again (because they're many), and unless I have it on the G-mail app on my phone, I'll never know that I've got a mail. I didn't reply because I didn't see it. Sorry about that.

So, yeah, I still have the book. I'll send you a PM right away.
I get you grin you could use those 10-minute disposable emails and keep your main one intact, lol.

If you could share all 17 I'd really appreciate. On their official website it turns out there are other series (with really interesting sounding titles). Also, apparently, Mike Hockney isn't the real name of the author and just a pen name.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Tozara(m): 3:45pm On Feb 06
AnonyNymous:

I get you grin you could use those 10-minute disposable emails and keep your main one intact, lol.
Lol. grin Exactly.

If you could share all 17 I'd really appreciate. On their official website it turns out there are other series (with really interesting sounding titles). Also, apparently, Mike Hockney isn't the real name of the author and just a pen name.
I'll certainly share all, boss.

Yeah. I'm really enthusiastic about reading the other books. I've been trying to get them to no avail. I guess my kind of credit card/debit card cannot make the purchase. Very frustrating, lol.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by shaykhalislaam(m): 10:38am On Feb 11
The True Religion of God

Which Is The True Religion Of God?

Each person is born in a circumstance which is not of his own choosing.

The religion of his family or the ideology of the state is thrust upon him from the very beginning of his existence in this world.

By the time he reaches his teens, he is usually fully brain-washed into believing that the beliefs of his particular society are the correct beliefs that everyone should have.

However, when some people mature and are exposed to other belief- systems, they begin to question the validity of their own beliefs.

The seekers of truth often reach a point of confusion upon realizing that each and every religion, sect, ideology and philosophy claims to be the one and only correct way for man.

Indeed, they all encourage people to do good.

So, which one is right?

They cannot all be right since each claims all others are wrong.

Then how does the seeker of truth choose the right way?

God gave us all minds and intellects to enable us to make this crucial decision.

It is the most important decision in the life of a human being.

Upon it depends his future, Consequently, each and every one of us must examine dispassionately the evidence presented and choose what appears to be right until further evidence arises.

Like every other religion or philosophy, Islam also claims to be the one and only true way to God.

In this respect it is no different from other systems.

This work intends to provide some evidence for the validity of that claim.

However, it must always be kept in mind that one can only determine the true path by putting aside emotions and prejudices, which often blind us to reality.

Then, and only then, will we be able to use our God-given intelligence and make a rational and correct decision.

There are several arguments, which may be advanced to support Islam's claim to be the true religion of God.

The following are only three of the most obvious.

The first argument is based on the divine origin of the names of the religion and the comprehensiveness of its meaning.

The second deals with the unique and uncomplicated teachings concerning the relationship between God, man, and creation.

The third argument derives from the fact that Islam is universally attainable by all men at all times.

These are the three basic components of what logic and reason dictate necessary for a religion to be considered the true religion of God.

The following pages will develop these concepts in some detail.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4amorc(m): 7:22pm On Feb 11
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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by shaykhalislaam(m): 7:02am On Feb 12
Evidence for the validity of Islam

Praise be to Allah

The evidence for the validity of Islam and the truthfulness of the Prophethood of the Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) is abundant and can hardly be enumerated. This evidence is sufficient to convince any wise and fair-minded person who is impartially and sincerely seeking the truth. We can sum up some of this proof as follows. 

1.     The evidence of sound human nature 

The call of Islam is in accordance with sound human nature, as is indicated by the words of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted (interpretation of the meaning):

“So set you (O Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)) your face towards the religion of pure Islamic Monotheism Hanifa (worship none but Allah Alone) Allah’s Fitrah (i.e. Allah’s Islamic Monotheism), with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalqillah (i.e. the Religion of Allah Islamic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not”

[ar-Room 30:30]. 

And the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “There is no child who is not born in a state of fitrah, then his parents make him a Jew or a Christian or a Magian, just as animals bring forth animals with their limbs intact, do you see any deformed one among them?”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1358) and Muslim (2658). 

The words “animals bring forth animals with their limbs intact” mean: just as an animal is born with its limbs intact and free of defects; anything that happens to it of cuts to its ears and so on happens after it is born. 

Similarly, every human is born with an inherent inclination towards Islam, and any deviation from Islam is undoubtedly a departure from sound human nature. Therefore we never find anything in the teachings of Islam that is contrary to sound human nature. Rather all of its teachings on beliefs and practical matters are in accordance with sound human nature. As for religions and ideologies other than Islam, they include things that are contrary to sound human nature. This is something that is quite clear and apparent to anyone who reflects and ponders. 

2.     Rational evidence 

There are many Islamic texts that address reason and direct people to examine the rational proof and evidence, and call upon people of sound reasoning and mature thinking to examine the definitive evidence for the soundness of Islam. 

Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(This is) a Book (the Qur’an) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its Verses, and that men of understanding may remember”

[Saad 38:29]. 

Al-Qaadi ‘Iyaad said concerning the miraculous aspects of the Qur’an:

In it you will see that there is an explanation of a set of divine laws; it mentions the way of proof based on reason, presents arguments against the misguided followers of different religions and sects, and argues against them on the basis of strong and clear proof, using very easy and concise language. Those who pretend to be clever tried to come up with proof and evidence like that, but they were not able to do so.

End quote from ash-Shifa (1/390) 

The texts of the revelation do not contain anything that is impossible according to rational thinking or that would be rejected by reason, and the texts never presented an argument that contradicts reason or contradicts any analogy based on rational thinking. Rather the proponents of falsehood never presented any analogy to support their falsehood but the Qur’an refuted it on the basis of truth and an argument that is based on clear reason. 

Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And no example or similitude do they bring (to oppose or to find fault in you or in this Qur’an), but We reveal to you the truth (against that similitude or example), and the better explanation thereof”

[al-Furqaan 25:33].                            

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

Here Allah, may He be glorified, tells us that the disbelievers do not produce any rational argument to support their falsehood but He refutes it on the basis of truth, and presents arguments and evidence and examples that offer a better explanation thereof, are more convincing and give a clearer explanation of the truth than their argument and analogy.

End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (4/106) 

One of the examples of rational evidence in the Qur’an is the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Do they not then consider the Qur’an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradiction”

[an-Nisa’ 4:82]. 

In Tafseer al-Qurtubi it says:

There is no one who speaks a great deal but you will find a lot of contradiction in his words, either in the presentation and wording, or in the meaning, or you will find discrepancies, or there will be untruths. Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, sent down the Qur’an and instructed them to reflect on it, because they will not find in it any discrepancies in the presentation of ideas, or any flaws in what it promotes, or any contradiction, or any lies in what they are told of matters of the unseen and what they conceal.

End quote from al-Jaami‘ li Ahkaam al-Qur’an (5/290) 

Ibn Katheer said:

That is, if it were fabricated and made up, as the ignorant polytheists and hypocrites said to themselves, “they would surely have found therein much contradiction” that is, many flaws and discrepancies. In other words, this Book is free of discrepancies and contradictions, therefore it is from Allah.

End quote from Tafseer al-Qur’an al-‘Azeem (1/802) 

3.     Miracles and signs of Prophethood 

Allah, may He be exalted, supported His noble Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) with numerous miracles and tangible signs that pointed to the truthfulness of his Prophethood and the soundness of his message, such as the splitting of the moon for him, the glorification of Allah by food and pebbles in front of him, the springing forth of water from between his fingers, the increasing of food, and other miracles and signs that were seen and witnessed by huge numbers of people, and have been transmitted to us via saheeh isnaads (sound chains of narration) that reach the level of tawaatur. This gives rise to certainty. 

An example of that is that which is narrated in a saheeh report from ‘Abdullah ibn Mas‘ood, that he said: We were with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) on a journey and our supply of water ran low. He said: “Bring me a little leftover water.” So they brought a vessel in which there was a little water. He put his hand in the vessel, then said: “Come to a blessed, purifying water; and the blessing is from Allah.” And I saw the water springing from between the fingers of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). And we used to hear the food glorifying Allah as it was being eaten. 

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3579) 

4.     Prophecies 

What is meant by prophecies here is what the revelation foretold of matters and events that would happen in the future, whether that was during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) or after his death. 

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) never foretold anything that would happen in the future, but it would happen exactly as he foretold. This indicates that Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, had revealed and disclosed to him some matters of unseen knowledge that could not be attained except by means of revelation. 

One example of that is the report narrated by Abu Hurayrah, that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Hour will not begin until a fire emerges in the land of the Hijaz which will illuminate the necks of the camels in Busra.” 

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (7118) and Muslim (2902). 

And it happened exactly as the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) had foretold, in 654 AH – approximately 644 years after his death. This was mentioned by historians, including al-‘Allaamah Abu Shaamah al-Maqdisi, in his book Dhayl ar-Rawdatayn. He was one of the scholars who lived at the time of this historical incident. It was also mentioned by al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer in al-Bidaayah wa’n-Nihaayah (13/219), where he said: Then the year 654 AH began, in which there appeared fire in the land of the Hijaz by which the necks of the camels in Busra were illuminated, as it says in the agreed-upon hadith. Shaykh al-‘Allaamah al-Haafiz Shihaab ad-Deen Abu Shaamah al-Maqdisi spoke at length about that in his adh-Dhayl wa Sharhuhu, based on many letters that came to Damascus from the Hijaz, describing that fire that had been witnessed and seen, and how it emerged, and the story thereof. 

To sum up what Abu Shaamah said:

Letters came to Damascus from the Prophet’s City – may the best of blessings and peace be upon its inhabitant – speaking of the emergence of a fire in their land on 5th Jumaada al-Aakhirah this year. The letters were written on 5th Rajab, when the fire was still burning, and they reached us on 10th Sha‘baan. Then he said: In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. At the beginning of Sha‘baan 654 AH, letters came to the city of Damascus from the city of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) describing a significant event that occurred there, in which there was confirmation of the hadith of Abu Hurayrah in as-Saheehayn, who said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Hour will not begin until a fire emerges in the land of the Hijaz which will illuminate the necks of the camels in Busra.” Someone whom I trust from among those who saw it told me that he heard that in Tayma’ letters had been written by its light. 

He said: We were in our houses during those nights, and in the house of each one of us it was as if there was a lamp, but it had no heat and did not burn, despite its greatness; rather it was one of the signs of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted. End quote.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 5:48pm On Feb 13
kingmarv:
Why can't some people understand by common sense that it is simply evil to be unforgiving.
Just like Yahweh right?
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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Brey(f): 3:55pm On Mar 08
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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 12:50am On Mar 15
1stSonOfLucifer what crime did you commit this time? grin grin grin
Abi na extra amenity be this?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 12:19pm On Mar 15
4kings:
1stSonOfLucifer what crime did you commit this time? grin grin grin
Abi na extra amenity be this?
Hahaha

Don't lemme pee jàre.

Dunno what I did to NL o-o. Couldn't login (using adepeter2027) again with same credentials I use for login.
Getting incorrect password or username
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 2:58pm On Mar 15
1stSonOfLucifer:

Hahaha

Don't lemme pee jàre.

Dunno what I did to NL o-o. Couldn't login (using adepeter2027) again with same credentials I use for login.
Getting incorrect password or username

Okay.
Just type your mail in the reset password section to do a reset.

And probably silly stuff like capslock could be an issue or someone somehow hacked your device.

I thought you had caused another trouble... grin
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 4:05pm On Mar 15
4kings:

Okay.
Just type your mail in the reset password section to do a reset.


Can't access the email anymore.
And probably silly stuff like capslock could be an issue or someone somehow hacked your device.

I thought you had caused another trouble... grin
LoL

I'm now a gentle gee. Besides, religion section ain't fun filled like before anymore ever since some monikers stopped logging
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 12:35pm On Mar 16
1stSonOfLucifer:

Can't access the email anymore.
Oh
Hmm, seems like you used one of those temporal email generators. wink

LoL

I'm now a gentle gee. Besides, religion section ain't fun filled like before anymore ever since some monikers stopped logging
Ya, and some now posting rubbish llike that Emmanystone.

I've not been very active on Nairaland, but when I am normally go to the Programming Section... It's more fun there...
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Emmanystone: 12:58pm On Mar 16
4kings:

Oh
Hmm, seems like you used one of those temporal email generators. wink


Ya, and some now posting rubbish llike that Emmanystone.

I've not been very active on Nairaland, but when I am normally go to the Programming Section... It's more fun there...
Welcomed development. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I am at home to Post my nonsense in the Religion section, for that was the idea. It's's good you finally realized that and had to go make yourself useful somewhere else.

If you see me coming over there to post my religious nonsense, then know am sick.

Why won't satanists stay Satanists and leave me alone?

Ndok.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 1:29pm On Mar 16
*double post*
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 1:29pm On Mar 16
Emmanystone:

Welcomed development. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I am at home to Post my nonsense in the Religion section, for that was the idea. It's's good you finally realized that and had to go make yourself useful somewhere else.

If you see me coming over there to post my religious nonsense, then know am sick.

Why won't satanists stay Satanists and leave me alone?

Ndok.
"Ndok" is that ibibio?

Anyways, who's more likely to be a satanists? Me that don't believe satan exist or you that make him accountable for all your failures?

Learn to take corrections Mr. Man.
I think i also saw a post where you talked about being a doctor when OtemSapien was accusing you of being 4evergod(i might be mistaken though cos i was not very active then)
And you asked in the other thread what causes aging? I was astonished but too weak to reply your silly overall post.

Anyways Good-day.

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 6:28pm On Mar 16
4kings:

Oh
Hmm, seems like you used one of those temporal email generators. wink

You're damn right.

I've not been very active on Nairaland, but when I am normally go to the Programming Section... It's more fun there...
Gonna try that section out

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