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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 5:26am On Feb 29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foLI3KGbMnk

During the Summer of 2018, Bart D. Ehrman and Peter J. Williams joined as guests with moderator Justin Brierley on the "Unbelievable" show called "The Big Conversation," Season 2-Episode 3. The story of Jesus: Can we trust the historical reliability of the Gospels?

Arguably, no individual has influenced the course of history more than Jesus of Nazareth. Today, over 2000 years since he lived, his story still influences the lives of millions of people. Yet, in recent decades many have questioned whether the Gospel stories are a true reflection of the central figure of Christianity. So can we trust the accounts of his life, death and alleged resurrection? Leading New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman is well known for his critique of the historicity of the Gospels. He engages with leading Cambridge University Bible scholar Peter J. Williams who defends the reliability of the accounts.

Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He came to UNC in 1988, after four years of teaching at Rutgers University. At UNC he has served as both the Director of Graduate Studies and the Chair of the Department of Religious Studies. A graduate of Wheaton College (Illinois), Professor Ehrman received both his Masters of Divinity and Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where his 1985 doctoral dissertation was awarded magna cum laude.

Peter J. Williams is the Warden (CEO) of Tyndale House and a member of the Faculty of Divinity in the University of Cambridge. He received his MA, MPhil and PhD, in the study of ancient languages related to the Bible from Cambridge University. Staffed in the Faculty of Divinity, Cambridge University (1997–1998). Affiliated Lecturer in Hebrew and Aramaic and as Research Fellow in Old Testament at Tyndale House, Cambridge (1998–2003). Faculty of the University of Aberdeen, Scotland and later Warden in the history of Tyndale House.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ausrichie(m): 6:25am On Feb 29
Smart guys on this thread are needed asap. I need a top down explanation of the Big Bang Theory, let me understand it fully.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 6:52am On Feb 29
Ausrichie:
Smart guys on this thread are needed asap. I need a top down explanation of the Big Bang Theory, let me understand it fully.

We can give you layman's understanding as we understand it. If you want experts then go to the nearest university physics or astrophysics department.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ausrichie(m): 7:00am On Feb 29
LordReed:


We can give you layman's understanding as we understand it. If you want experts then go to the nearest university physics or astrophysics department.
Toor the layman understanding Wikipedia further confused me.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 7:46am On Feb 29
Ausrichie:

Toor the layman understanding Wikipedia further confused me.

Which part confused you?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ausrichie(m): 7:48am On Feb 29
LordReed:


Which part confused you?
Almost everything. All I got was something about the expansion of space simple it didn't put it straight.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 7:58am On Feb 29
Ausrichie:

Almost everything. All I got was something about the expansion of space simple it didn't put it straight.

Well that's the gist of it. Most of the other stuff is technical. Basically, our universe is the result of the rapid expansion of a hot dense state. There was no explosion in case you are wondering. It was an expansion that birth what we know as the space time continuum.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ausrichie(m): 8:07am On Feb 29
LordReed:


Well that's the gist of it. Most of the other stuff is technical. Basically, our universe is the result of the rapid expansion of a hot dense state. There was no explosion in case you are wondering. It was an expansion that birth what we know as the space time continuum.
Okay. And teachers then will be saying that it was the theory that the first organism was created by a spontaneous chemical reaction.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 8:40am On Feb 29
Ausrichie:

Okay. And teachers then will be saying that it was the theory that the first organism was created by a spontaneous chemical reaction.

That's a different hypothesis called Abiogenesis.

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ausrichie(m): 9:46am On Feb 29
LordReed:


That's a different hypothesis called Abiogenesis.
Thanks exactly what I was looking for.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by FTighT: 3:10pm On Mar 03
Caracta:
Hello people. I am looking for CrazyMan. Did anybody see him around?
he just passed by asking of you � ... i think you should check the corner by your right
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 9:51pm On Mar 03
The female sense of sharing originated as familial sharing—care of the young, the gathering and preparation of food, sharing joys, love and sorrows. Funeral lamentation originated with women. Religion began as a female monopoly, wrested from them only after its social power became too dominant. Women were the first medical researchers and practitioners. There has never been any clear balance between the sexes because power goes with certain roles as it certainly goes with knowledge.
 
 
—THE STOLEN JOURNALS

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 6:23pm On Mar 04
"Do you know how to unite the people behind you, Child Carridin? The quickest way? Loose a lion - a rabid lion - in the streets. And when panic grips the people, once it has turned their bowels to water, calmly tell them you will deal with it. Then you kill it, and order them to hang the carcass up where everyone can see. Before they have time to think, you give another order, and it will be obeyed. And if you continue to give orders, they will continue to obey, for you will be the one who saved them, and who better to lead?"

• Robert Jordan, The Dragon Reborn

Remind you of some other story you know? Mmm...?!

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Born2Freak(f): 7:14am On Mar 07
LordReed:
"Do you know how to unite the people behind you, Child Carridin? The quickest way? Loose a lion - a rabid lion - in the streets. And when panic grips the people, once it has turned their bowels to water, calmly tell them you will deal with it. Then you kill it, and order them to hang the carcass up where everyone can see. Before they have time to think, you give another order, and it will be obeyed. And if you continue to give orders, they will continue to obey, for you will be the one who saved them, and who better to lead?"

• Robert Jordan, The Dragon Reborn

Remind you of some other story you know? Mmm...?!


Create a problem (original sin) and then sell the solution (salvation).

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 8:26am On Mar 07
Born2Freak:



Create a problem (original sin) and then sell the solution (salvation).

Hole in one!
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Varbuena: 1:09pm On Mar 07

Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by CrazyMan(m): 4:33pm On Mar 07
FTighT:

he just passed by asking of you � ... i think you should check the corner by your right
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 3:41am On Mar 08
Clarifying thought, Christians and Muslims have to pretend their god is perfect. Otherwise none of the things they say would make sense.

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Cousin9999: 5:58pm On Mar 08
I've known for a while about how the big three religions were crafted from Egypt's book of the dead and other beliefs/philosophy. But it's interesting to see how Hinduism is a carbon copy of Egyptian religion. Like, there's no debating it because virtually every concept and deity is exactly as depicted in every scrap of Egyptian art/literature/etc.

What's more significant is that Ethiopia basically colonized and "civilized" Egypt, along with India. But given Ethiopian Christianity, it seems any pre-Christian info will be limited and suppressed.

People fixate on Europe's "Moors"/colonizers, but that's a closed case due to overwhelming historical evidence. They were obviously Africans from literally every corner. The phenotypes are all there. And lest we forget, all of their oldest churches depict Jesus and Mary as basically Sudanese.

It's funny when you think about it. Millions of racists pray to




There's an estimated 1.28 billion Catholics worldwide asking for strength from Sudanese baby Jesus.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 7:53am On Mar 13
Clarifying thought, Christians have a "personal relationship" with a the mental construct they call god or Jesus which they have put together from bits of information from the bible and their preachers. This is why their god's attributes varies from person to person and congregation to congregation. There is no objective person they are having a relationship with, it's all in their heads.

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by elated177: 9:47am On Mar 14
LordReed:
Clarifying thought, Christians have a "personal relationship" with a the mental construct they call god or Jesus which they have put together from bits of information from the bible and their preachers. This is why their god's attributes varies from person to person and congregation to congregation. There is no objective person they are having a relationship with, it's all in their heads.


Mental construct, huh? Is this any different from what the egregore guy is espousing?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 9:55am On Mar 14
elated177:



Mental construct, huh? Is this any different from what the egregore guy is espousing?

Very different. A mental construct doesn't gain any form of autonomy, it has no power except what the person constructing it gives it and cannot form its own motives beyond what it has been constructed with. The egregore concept seems to be an autonomous thing/creature/being, having its own power and motives.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by elated177: 10:46am On Mar 14
LordReed:


Very different. A mental construct doesn't gain any form of autonomy, it has no power except what the person constructing it gives it and cannot form its own motives beyond what it has been constructed with. The egregore concept seems to be an autonomous thing/creature/being, having its own power and motives.


Who is Yahushua the Messiah?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 11:43am On Mar 14
elated177:



Who is Yahushua the Messiah?

The mental construct you have created from the stories in your bible. There is no real person behind it, it's all in your head.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by elated177: 11:52am On Mar 14
LordReed:


The mental construct you have created from the stories in your bible. There is no real person behind it, it's all in your head.



What did my Scriptures say about Yahushua the Messiah?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 12:20pm On Mar 14
elated177:




What did my Scriptures say about Yahushua the Messiah?

Lots of things which portion are you after?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dontrulee(m): 1:24pm On Mar 15
THE KING SAYS: TO BE FREE OF PASSIONS AND TO BE CALM IS THE MOST EXCELLENT WAY
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 9:26pm On Mar 15
dontrulee:
THE KING SAYS: TO BE FREE OF PASSIONS AND TO BE CALM IS THE MOST EXCELLENT WAY

That king is wrong. Passions are part of what it is to be human. If the king is saying we should deny our humanity then that king is high on something bad for his health.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dontrulee(m): 12:41am On Mar 16
LordReed:


That king is wrong. Passions are part of what it is to be human. If the king is saying we should deny our humanity then that king is high on something bad for his health.

The king is right.
The excellent way reverts you to your primal innocence. it takes you above the level of humanity.
what has your humanity gotten you to?
The king says: To be free of the passions and to be calm is the most excellent way.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 1:28am On Mar 16
dontrulee:


The king is right.
The excellent way reverts you to your primal innocence. it takes you above the level of humanity.
what has your humanity gotten you to?
The king says: To be free of the passions and to be calm is the most excellent way.

The king is a dunce. Primal innocence is a ridiculous concept as primal connotes instinctive which is all about passions and adding innocence which connotes lack of discernment. So the dunce king wants you in an instinctive state of lack of discernment and is calling that excellent, what a clueless king.

Our humanity got us the device you are using to post the nonsense advice from an intoxicated king.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dontrulee(m): 1:59am On Mar 16
LordReed:


The king is a dunce. Primal innocence is a ridiculous concept as primal connotes instinctive which is all about passions and adding innocence which connotes lack of discernment. So the dunce king wants you in an instinctive state of lack of discernment and is calling that excellent, what a clueless king.

Our humanity got us the device you are using to post the nonsense advice from an intoxicated king.

THE KING SAYS: To be free from the passions and to be calm is the most excellent way.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by LordReed(m): 2:02am On Mar 16
dontrulee:


THE KING SAYS: To be free from the passions and to be calm is the most excellent way.

No thank you, dunce king.

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