FarmTech:
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Men, I can't believe I miss this ur post for this long. Sorry for that.
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Layers are hens that specialize in egg laying while quail are those smaller birds that matures fasters and lay small eggs. There is more market for layers eggs than quail eggs, but both can be profitable if u can find a regular market for them.
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Except you want to start a hatchery biz, you don't need males. A day old chick cost about N210, that's the price I bought mine, but it can be lower than that depending on the time of the yr.
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I dont use cages, but I know that the feed and water trough are made in the form of gutter and placed outside the cage. Yes, layers need extra light at night to lay more eggs.
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I dont know much about quail yet. To get drugs, vaccines etc for layers, ask other farmers close to you or visit the market and ask. Try to get from shops close by. For vaccination plan, talk to other farmers in ur area - farmers that are succeeding, not the ones complaining.

Thanks bro

Farmtech pls I want to know if u buy commercial feed or u locally produce ur feeds? If commercial, how do u cope with the price of feed and the quantity they consume in making profit? But if u use local feed how do u get ur mixtures right?

Nwogbe:
Farmtech when did ur birds drop? I got mine from farmsupport too and they dropped at exactly 18wks and 3days(last Friday) buh they are slow in picking up. 1 3 4 3 5 is d sequence which i hv experienced. Is it normal? Cos i was expecting a geometric sequence.

please which feed do u use for dem b4 the 18weeks,,,,because i have 1200birds now of 4 weeks by dis Friday bt as u knw i really want to scw to the local 1, oh to mix wit concentrate and maize.....need to knw frm u plzzz

Hello all, have been asking here where I can get trained as far as poultry is concerned(practical), cos I intend going into poultry soon(majorly layers) but I want to av knowledge before I go into it.. It doesn't av to b a training center, I can even work @ any farm just 2 get d knowledge. I'm in ibadan. I anticipate ur replies.

babsf:



please which feed do u use for dem b4 the 18weeks,,,,because i have 1200birds now of 4 weeks by dis Friday bt as u knw i really want to scw to the local 1, oh to mix wit concentrate and maize.....need to knw frm u plzzz

Life stock. Its a commercial feed.

My brother, i hope u have stocked broilers for xmas.

FarmTech:

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It's still very much in my mind. Let me just give you guys a summary of the porofit:
1. Feed intake per day: 66.5kg
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2. Cost per kg of feed = N2350/25kg = N94/kg
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3. Feed cost per day = 66.5kg x 94=N6251/day.
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4. Average no. Of crates per day is 14 crates.
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5. Average price per crate is N600.
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6. Gross Profit per day = N600x14 crates = N8400.
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7. Net profit is N2149 per day.
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N.B. Cost of routine lasota vaccination (N720 every 6 wks or less), antibiotic preventive dose, water, multivit etc not included. They're small though.

i dont think dts d net profit per day for 497 birds cos u did not include the cost of thw layers when u will dispose them off.i heard its btw 800 to 1200 each.

pet01:
Farmtech pls I want to know if u buy commercial feed or u locally produce ur feeds? If commercial, how do u cope with the price of feed and the quantity they consume in making profit? But if u use local feed how do u get ur mixtures right?

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I use commercial feed and the price have not change yet. My supplier have not increase the price. Are you having problem with price?

babsf:



please which feed do u use for dem b4 the 18weeks,,,,because i have 1200birds now of 4 weeks by dis Friday bt as u knw i really want to scw to the local 1, oh to mix wit concentrate and maize.....need to knw frm u plzzz

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B4 you switch, test the new feed on some of them to avoid painful mistake. Also mix the old and new feed together for at least 2 weeks. After that u can give them only the new feed. Changing feed suddenly can be dangerous.

mercylicious:


i dont think dts d net profit per day for 497 birds cos u did not include the cost of thw layers when u will dispose them off.i heard its btw 800 to 1200 each.

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This is just a rough estimate. The actual cost will depend on the time of the yr. It's higher during festive season.

FarmTech:

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I use commercial feed and the price have not change yet. My supplier have not increase the price. Are you having problem with price?

Yes there has been 3x increase in less than 1 month, besides you sell ur create for N600, is that they are small eggs or that competition brought the price down? In abuja here normal size egg sells for N700.

pet01:


Yes there has been 3x increase in less than 1 month, besides you sell ur create for N600, is that they are small eggs or that competition brought the price down? In abuja here normal size egg sells for N700.

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That's whole sale price, otherwise it's 650.
Edit: I have d/f prices. For whole sellers, it is 650 and 580 depending on size. For retailers, it is 600 and 650. [/quote]

FarmTech:

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That's whole sale price, otherwise it's 650.

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Pls inform me, how many crates do you sell as whole sell. Tnx

FarmTech:

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That's whole sale price, otherwise it's 650.

did u repeat marek vaccination for your birds when you brought them from the hatchery.

pet01:

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Pls inform me, how many crates do you sell as whole sell. Tnx

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I sell to both wholesellers and retailers.

tabontabon:

did u repeat marek vaccination for your birds when you brought them from the hatchery.

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Yes I did.

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Hi guys I am new in this poultry business and I pretty much have all the info I need except for the feeding part and vaccines. My target is 2000 day old layers birds which I will be booking soon. However the feeding cost will throw me out of budget. I was looking at commercial brand of feed vs locally milled feed and I still don't get it. Can any good and experienced nairalander assist me in breaking down the cost to feed 2000 layer birds from day old to 8 weeks both commercial and local ? Thanks

Wow,dis has been realy hlpful.i've been nursing a thing for poultry 4 a while nw.tnx a lot.following

FarmTech:

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It's still very much in my mind. Let me just give you guys a summary of the porofit:
1. Feed intake per day: 66.5kg
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2. Cost per kg of feed = N2350/25kg = N94/kg
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3. Feed cost per day = 66.5kg x 94=N6251/day.
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4. Average no. Of crates per day is 14 crates.
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5. Average price per crate is N600.
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6. Gross Profit per day = N600x14 crates = N8400.
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7. Net profit is N2149 per day.
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N.B. Cost of routine lasota vaccination (N720 every 6 wks or less), antibiotic preventive dose, water, multivitī etc not included. They're small though.

Sure you are feeding the birds too much and they may develop fats. on a daily basis, egg laying birds should consume an average of .125 grams.

davidzfarm18:

Sure you are feeding the birds too much and they may develop fats. on a daily basis, egg laying birds should consume an average of .125 grams.

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It's 125g not .125g. I later reduce it though. There was a time they'll consume the normal quantity and will still be crying for more.

Abiola1016:
Hi guys I am new in this poultry business and I pretty much have all the info I need except for the feeding part and vaccines. My target is 2000 day old layers birds which I will be booking soon. However the feeding cost will throw me out of budget. I was looking at commercial brand of feed vs locally milled feed and I still don't get it. Can any good and experienced nairalander assist me in breaking down the cost to feed 2000 layer birds from day old to 8 weeks both commercial and local ? Thanks

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I will advise you start with 500 and budget 1k to cover feeding, vaccinatn, debeaking etc.

Thanks Farmtech... When u said 1k for feeding and vaccine can u please break it down as in per bird feeding and vaccine. Once again thanks

Abiola1016:
Thanks Farmtech... When u said 1k for feeding and vaccine can u please break it down as in per bird feeding and vaccine. Once again thanks

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The 1k is for 1 bird. It may be much because it was N800 per bird before but with the increase in feed price, it is better to assume a value higher than N800.

Thanks again for the info. Is the 1k from day old to point of lay? Also I will assume it includes the vaccination and feeding

Abiola1016:
Thanks again for the info. Is the 1k from day old to point of lay? Also I will assume it includes the vaccination and feeding

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Yes, but note that it may not be up to N1k!

@farmtech, my broilers will b 2 wks on thursday,i've done d first vacn. I recenly notice dat some of dem pass wet brownish excrete. Pls hw do correct this. Thanks.

bigiyaro:
@farmtech, my broilers will b 2 wks on thursday,i've done d first vacn. I recenly notice dat some of dem pass wet brownish excrete. Pls hw do correct this. Thanks.

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It may be normal. It's called cecal droppings. Do they look sick? Do they eat and drink well?

FarmTech:

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It may be normal. It's called cecal droppings. Do they look sick? Do they eat and drink well?

non of them look sick or act sick,they r eatin n drinkin wella, very very active birds i must say. Thanks for ur help God bless u