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What Can God Not Do? by glorina: 9:54pm On Jun 18, 2008
Could any Yoruba native speaker correct the spellings and translate the following popular song for me?

Kile lese Olorun mi Kile lese
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun kile lese
Kile lese olorun mi ki le lese

tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun tale julo
Tale ju lo Olorun mi tale julo

Thanks and God bless
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Backslider(m): 10:18pm On Jun 18, 2008
GOD Cannot Lie
Re: What Can God Not Do? by jydeboy: 1:42pm On Jun 19, 2008
God can never make a mistake because he is God.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by tina4uj(f): 3:01pm On Jun 19, 2008
God can not disapoint. becaus he is God.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:38pm On Jun 19, 2008
glorina:

Could any Yoruba native speaker correct the spellings and translate the following popular song for me?

Kile lese Olorun mi Kile lese
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun kile lese
Kile lese olorun mi ki le lese

tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun tale julo
Tale ju lo Olorun mi tale julo

Thanks and God bless

Word for Word Translation (KJV style) wink

1.  What can you not do?  My God, what can you not do?

2.  You that created the earth and heaven, what can you not do?

3.  repeat stanza 1

4.  Who are you not bigger than?  My God, who are you not bigger than?

5.  repeat stanza 4

6.  You that created the earth and heaven, who are you not bigger than?

7.  repeat stanza 4

The spelling is satisfactory, well done and remain blessed and rapturable.

Can anyone help out with the best "thought for thought version"? grin
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Angybabe(f): 3:46pm On Jun 19, 2008
God cannot Lie
Re: What Can God Not Do? by KAG: 4:25pm On Jun 19, 2008
Exist?
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jun 19, 2008
God does not let himself be discovered by scientific experimentation -- because He is no thing.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by olabowale(m): 5:11pm On Jun 19, 2008
@Olaadegbu: Thanks for your translation. But you should notice the tone of the poster. His tone of reverence to the Almighty. If he, the poster had been from a culture where there clear thought of intonation when you respect and when you are not, it will seem that it is a plural "Pronoun, eg you, as in the Kile." But we know that this is how we talk to our elders. Henc it is no wonder that the poster uses a second person plural, in a definite majestic tone. Kudos to you people.

@KAG: Your limited knowledge about the world, and the physical and visual issues, of our days are all signs of your inefficiency to even begin to realize that you just did not appear on this plane, by accident. If you organize your life to wards a goal that you set for yourself, then know that Someone has designed you to have those instinctive impulses to at least want to accomplish that very lofty goal that you set out to accomplish.

Your kind of persons have argued so irrationally about things that are invisible: God the almighty, all His Angels, other spirits that we call jinns in Islam, Hellfire and paradise, and yes, indeed heavens, all the 7 layers of them. The lowest of the heavens, is an envelope for all that science will ever discover and even there will remain something undiscovered till the day the earth will perish.

How then, do you continue to tell us what is unseen, especially, when science is still just at the fringes of discoveries. Please tell me if you can, can you see the back of your neck, without anything to aid you? When you can, then come back to tell us how. As a matter of truth, post it on Youtube and let us view it for validity. I am very confident that you can never see the back of your own neck or the part of your face and neck before your shoulders. Thats even in frontal part of your body, withput you using anything as aid and you do not even have to do any gymnastics.

If you can not see any of these part of your own body, how do you then hope to disprove the existence of God, or discover him, when you fail to even discover your own self?


If you use mirrowr to see these hidden part of your body, then know that the mirror to see God is this whole world itself. Start by looking at yourself about the purpose of life. Why are you here on earth? Is there a reason that you human instead of other things that you see or not seen?
Re: What Can God Not Do? by KAG: 6:32pm On Jun 19, 2008
[quote author=olabowale link=topic=143609.msg2393853#msg2393853 date=1213891862]
@KAG: Your limited knowledge about the world, and the physical and visual issues, of our days are all signs of your inefficiency to even begin to realize that you just did not appear on this plane, by accident. If you organize your life to wards a goal that you set for yourself, then know that Someone has designed you to have those instinctive impulses to at least want to accomplish that very lofty goal that you set out to accomplish.[/QUOTE]

That's all well and good, but until Santa brings me my bike I can't begin the hunt for the treasure buried at the end of the rainbow.

Your kind of persons have argued so irrationally about things that are invisible: God the almighty, all His Angels, other spirits that we call jinns in Islam, Hellfire and paradise, and yes, indeed heavens, all the 7 layers of them. The lowest of the heavens, is an envelope for all that science will ever discover and even there will remain something undiscovered till the day the earth will perish.

- Leprechauns, five-headed monsters, Lochness monster, Superted, Alf - I could go on. Just so you know, I'm going to Valhalla.

How then, do you continue to tell us what is unseen, especially, when science is still just at the fringes of discoveries. Please tell me if you can, can you see the back of your neck, without anything to aid you? When you can, then come back to tell us how. As a matter of truth, post it on Youtube and let us view it for validity. I am very confident that you can never see the back of your own neck or the part of your face and neck before your shoulders. Thats even in frontal part of your body, withput you using anything as aid and you do not even have to do any gymnastics.

If you can not see any of these part of your own body, how do you then hope to disprove the existence of God, or discover him, when you fail to even discover your own self?

Same way other fictitius beings and items are falsified. That I can't see the back of my neck is a silly reason to conclude that the boujie (lol) monster is in my closet. Look, I don't mean to be rude, but you make some of the worst arguments fort the existence of gods that I've ever seen.

If you use mirrowr to see these hidden part of your body, then know that the mirror to see God is this whole world itself.

Or realise that the world isn't a mirror for any gods. *shrugs*.

Start by looking at yourself about the purpose of life. Why are you here on earth? Is there a reason that you human instead of other things that you see or not seen?

Anthropic principle?
Re: What Can God Not Do? by olabowale(m): 9:28pm On Jun 19, 2008
@KAG:

Same way other fictitius beings and items are falsified. That I can't see the back of my neck is a silly reason to conclude that the boujie (lol) monster is in my closet. Look, I don't mean to be rude, but you make some of the worst arguments fort the existence of gods that I've ever seen.
[/quoe]

You don't wanna be rude to a man, but God means nothing to you? You see why my arguments about the existence are some of the worst to you now? A mind that is devoid of the existence of the Creator will always seem to think itself very enlightened, until it realizes that it has made a mistake all along, at the time of death.

Pharaoh thought that he was god. He even boasted and ask is minister of works to construct a structure so that he can climb up to heaven and confront Moses' God. The minister was just as bad, because he could have told him that it is structurally impossible to construct such a structure. But he dubiously told Pharaoh that he will find nothing in heaven. But we see that he Hamman had been to heave before he made such a foolish statement to Pharaoh. But when Pharaoh was dying he was now acknowledging the God of Moses, the God he had thought so little of, just before.

Well God preserved his drowned body for other future generations to see. Go and make your own research, KAG and stop all this fake pride and arrogance. You were born by a mixture of sexual fluid of man and the product (egg) of a woman. You were in her stomach until you came out of her. Then you were helpless for a long time before you became this strong man. And if you live long on earth you will go back to being helpless at very old age. Then finally you will die and be buried or cremated or thrown away as if disposed and unwanted or being used for medical experiment.

Regardless of your chosen way, I guarantee you that there is a day of Judgement, whereby you will be recreated and ypu will recognize yourself as this very man who I am writing to. Then you will be judged. Now do you want for a harsh condition or a condition of ease? You will have to choose this based on your own hope.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by KAG: 12:44am On Jun 20, 2008
olabowale:

@KAG:
You don't want to be rude to a man, but God means nothing to you?

Well, gods don't exist so, yeah.

You see why my arguments about the existence are some of the worst to you now? A mind that is devoid of the existence of the Creator will always seem to think itself very enlightened, until it realizes that it has made a mistake all along, at the time of death.

No, your arguments are some of the worst because they are spectacularly bad and often bereft of sense.


Pharaoh thought that he was god. He even boasted and ask is minister of works to construct a structure so that he can climb up to heaven and confront Moses' God. The minister was just as bad, because he could have told him that it is structurally impossible to construct such a structure. But he dubiously told Pharaoh that he will find nothing in heaven. But we see that he Hamman had been to heave before he made such a foolish statement to Pharaoh. But when Pharaoh was dying he was now acknowledging the God of Moses, the God he had thought so little of, just before.

LOL. Doube-U Tee Eff, man? Anyway, if you see Santa, ask him about that bike he owes me.


Well God preserved his drowned body for other future generations to see. Go and make your own research, KAG and stop all this fake pride and arrogance. You were born by a mixture of sexual fluid of man and the product (egg) of a woman. You were in her stomach until you came out of her. Then you were helpless for a long time before you became this strong man. And if you live long on earth you will go back to being helpless at very old age. Then finally you will die and be buried or cremated or thrown away as if disposed and unwanted or being used for medical experiment.

Right.

Regardless of your chosen way, I guarantee you that there is a day of Judgement, whereby you will be recreated and ypu will recognize yourself as this very man who I am writing to. Then you will be judged. Now do you want for a harsh condition or a condition of ease? You will have to choose this based on your own hope.

Wrong.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Cayon(f): 3:15am On Jun 20, 2008
He can't break His promises
Re: What Can God Not Do? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:20pm On Oct 18, 2008
glorina:

Could any Yoruba native speaker correct the spellings and translate the following popular song for me?

Kile lese Olorun mi Kile lese
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun kile lese
Kile lese olorun mi ki le lese

tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun tale julo
Tale ju lo Olorun mi tale julo

Thanks and God bless

See a Caucasian lady singing the song of praise written above in the nigbati language in the link below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kywXb31c2HA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kywXb31c2HA
Re: What Can God Not Do? by mazaje(m): 2:29pm On Oct 18, 2008
Backslider:

GOD Cannot Lie

god lied so many times in the bible so what the heck are you saying?
Re: What Can God Not Do? by manmustwac(m): 3:48pm On Oct 18, 2008
Nigerians are roasting and you guys are deluding yourselves with your religious beliefs here
Re: What Can God Not Do? by huxley(m): 4:17pm On Oct 18, 2008
Can God create an objects that is too heavy for him to lift?
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Nobody: 4:22pm On Oct 18, 2008
GOD cannot turn satan d lucifer to god and god cannot change hell to heaven or can he?
Re: What Can God Not Do? by AKO1(m): 4:36pm On Oct 18, 2008
Lol lol lol grin

As long as you keep trying to rationalize God you will never believe that He exists!
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Danke: 4:40pm On Oct 18, 2008
God can do all things
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Danke: 4:47pm On Oct 18, 2008
MY GOD IS A GOD OF UNLIMITATION cool

THE CREATOR THAT WAS NOT CREATED

THE MAKER THAT WAS NOT MADE

cool
Re: What Can God Not Do? by manmustwac(m): 5:09pm On Oct 18, 2008
A_K_O:

As long as you keep trying to rationalize God you will never believe that He exists!
So your saying that i shouldn't use rationalization or logic to prove that God exists that i should just close my eyes and have blind faith
Re: What Can God Not Do? by IDINRETE: 6:47pm On Oct 18, 2008
@poster
"Could any Yoruba native speaker correct the spellings and translate the following popular song for me?

Kile lese Olorun mi Kile lese
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun kile lese
Kile lese olorun mi ki le lese

tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun tale julo
Tale ju lo Olorun mi tale julo

Thanks and God bless"



we need to address and clarify the fundamental issue of whether olorun is the same as jehovah/yahweh/allah,
if this so called "god" is the same being that our forefather worship, how come the christian missionaries and the arabic muslim did not agree and accept that olorun is the same as god, but still labelled them as heathen and pagans, which means our forefathers has no concept of jehovah/yahweh,allah in their belief systems,

if christians and muslims would not agree that their gods are the same, likewise olorun should not be equated with those variant gods.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by mazaje(m): 7:15pm On Oct 18, 2008
IDINRETE:

@poster
"Could any Yoruba native speaker correct the spellings and translate the following popular song for me?

Kile lese Olorun mi Kile lese
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun kile lese
Kile lese olorun mi ki le lese

tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun tale julo
Tale ju lo Olorun mi tale julo

Thanks and God bless"



we need to address and clarify the fundamental issue of whether olorun is the same as jehovah/yahweh/allah,
if this so called "god" is the same being that our forefather worship, how come the christian missionaries and the arabic muslim did not agree and accept that olorun is the same as god, but still labelled them as heathen and pagans, which means our forefathers has no concept of jehovah/yahweh,allah in their belief systems,

if christians and muslims would not agree that their gods are the same, likewise olorun should not be equated with those variant gods.




oloron is not the same as jehova or allah
Re: What Can God Not Do? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:51pm On Oct 18, 2008
Watch how a non Yoruba speaker puts you guys to shame as she sings of the to the glory of God who specialises in making the impossible possible.

Check it out here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kywXb31c2HA
Re: What Can God Not Do? by JJYOU: 8:59pm On Oct 18, 2008
brilliant. she tried
Re: What Can God Not Do? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:30pm On Oct 18, 2008
I give her 8 out of 10 for her effort and inspiration. She surely got my attention there.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by IDINRETE: 5:43am On Oct 19, 2008
what is so special about the caucasian lady singing in yoruba?, millions of people who are not native of speakers of english language or any other languages for that matter can and do sing in those languages, im not an englishman but i can sing in english language,

a lot of nigerian artistes sing in american tongue, does it suprise us NO
why do we have to be mystified by the caucasian lady singing in yoruba, 
Re: What Can God Not Do? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:26am On Oct 19, 2008
It is not only that a Caucasian sings in Yoruba language but that she also sings of attributes of God Almighty to the shame of you African skeptics that cannot see the divine attributes of God even through nature if not the Word of God. Romans 1:18-20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kywXb31c2HA
Re: What Can God Not Do? by olabowale(m): 2:00pm On Oct 19, 2008
@Mazaje: « #14 on: Yesterday at 02:29:38 PM »

Quote from: Backslider on June 18, 2008, 10:18 PM
GOD Cannot Lie

god lied so many times in the bible so what the heck are you saying?

I guess the Biblical peoples (Jews and Christians) will have to get back to you
on this "accusation, especially when you see that they will have "problems,"
telling us who is the Truly universal entity known as "God," to those of us who
believe there is one. That has to be the same single entity that you "disbelievers
of His existence are struggling so hard to proof or establish!

In Islam, read the Qur'an, you will not find the same condition of lying or multiple
head god(s). There is Only One God Lord Creator, whose name is ALLAH! He says
that His way is unchanging. You will see it exactly like that in the Qur'an.




@manmustwac: #15 on: Yesterday at 03:48:05 PM »

Nigerians are roasting and you guys are deluding yourselves with your religious beliefs here

If Nigerians, altogether abandoned religion, without a change of " deficiency in thoughts and conscience,"
and adopt the good and excellent quality of good citizenry, will nigerians and nigeria not be "roasting,"
in exactly the same way?

What about america who has at least in a general sense believe in "religion," yet it is still doing well? There
is a saying in the present day "america," that indicates that she is the pulse of the world. (When america
sneezes, the rest of the world catches 'a cold!'). Look at the financial crunches that is happening in america,
right now. Evey part of the world is feeling the wisp of it. Tell me a country that does not have "religion," that
is unaffected?

Even when USSR was in existence, the "believing america, single handedly enginered its destruction! Cuba, is
a country that is stiffening "religion," please tell us its current comparative advantage over or to America?

China began to improve when "absolute" communism of socialism was a thing of the past. At least they,
by and large recognize a "Lord God Creator!" Unlike you who believes that you are a different brand of "monkey!"
By the way has this single belief helped you, without your need of people who belief otherwise?




@huxley (m): « #16 on: Yesterday at 04:17:00 PM »

Can God create an objects that is too heavy for him to lift?

He is not lifting of object, in the first place. How then do you
deceitfully proposes a lift of "too heavy?" Can you show me
anywhere in Qur'an that God "lifted?"




@euromilion: « #17 on: Yesterday at 04:22:07 PM »

GOD cannot turn satan d lucifer to god and god cannot change hell to heaven or can he?

Neither is necessary to be changed, because "Satan," is already condemned. He likes it like
that. Satan choice within his freewill was to be evil and unrepentance. Are you like that man,
with a very hard heart, full of deceit?

Hell is a place to punish evil doers and Satan, their chief instigator. Why will it be a place of
peace, which is paradise? God way is very consistent. Read the Qur'an to learn about God.




@Danke:« #20 on: Yesterday at 04:47:24 PM »

MY GOD IS A GOD OF UNLIMITATION

THE CREATOR THAT WAS NOT CREATED

THE MAKER THAT WAS NOT MADE

Proof that God Lord Creator is One. There is no multiple god(s).
Above destroys "Trinity!"




@manmustwac: #21 on: Yesterday at 05:09:34 PM »

Quote from: A_K_O on Yesterday at 04:36:35 PM
As long as you keep trying to rationalize God you will never believe that He exists!
So your saying that i shouldn't use rationalization or logic to prove that God exists that i should just close my eyes and have blind faith

Have you been able to use rationalization or logic to prove that God does not exist? Have you been able to use rationalization and logic to prove that you know all the unknowns? There must be something that you do not know! Afterall, at best you were ignorant, at a time in your life of all the things that you know now. You were taught enough to be convinced! Please use the same concept to teach yourself, or learn from those who know that God exist to discover His existence.

Otherwise please good and undisputable evidence that show that God does not exist! Just hypotheticating it, does not make it correct. Allah says about His existence, do human not look into the way the creations (all things) are in a single order to see that there is a Creator, a Lord God in charge! Can you dispute that man, just because you have not see Him? Have you seen the wind when it suddenly blows, hard or gentle, except that you see its effect?

Is God the Creator of that wind not Superior and even more discreet and should be more Unseen than the wind?




@IDINRETE: « #22 on: Yesterday at 06:47:30 PM »

@poster
"Could any Yoruba native speaker correct the spellings and translate the following popular song for me?

Kile lese Olorun mi Kile lese
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun kile lese
Kile lese olorun mi ki le lese

tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
tale julo Olorun mi tale julo
Ehin ti eda aiye atorun tale julo
Tale ju lo Olorun mi tale julo

Thanks and God bless"



we need to address and clarify the fundamental issue of whether olorun is the same as jehovah/yahweh/allah,
if this so called "god" is the same being that our forefather worship, how come the christian missionaries and the arabic muslim did not agree and accept that olorun is the same as god, but still labelled them as heathen and pagans, which means our forefathers has no concept of jehovah/yahweh,allah in their belief systems,

if christians and muslims would not agree that their gods are the same, likewise olorun should not be equated with those variant gods.

The difference between the Muslims, on one hand, and the Christians and your pagan forefathers, on the other hand, is that the Muslim has One Single God Lord Creator, with a proper name; Allah. Even the Children of Israel, in their semitic variant of language calls Him Eloi. Eloi is very similar to Arabic Allah. Try to pronounce them both. Then try pronouncing Yahweh and or Jehovah and compare it to Eloi. You will get my drift.

The Christian still erect a couple of gods, specifically, Jesus between them and God Lord Creator. They mislabel this God Lord Creator, through the silly but generic adaptation from the Jews, as father, while truly He is the Creator and never father, because there is an earthling entity for that, except in the cases of Adam, Eve and Jesus! Your forefathers did the same thing with erecting many gods, based on their views of what they want, between them and God Lord Creator.

Please know that only in Yoruba language that God Lord Creator is called Olorun and other unique names. The other NIgerian, African and worldly tribes and ethnicity have names for Him, in their specific ethnic languages!




@mazaje (m): « #23 on: Yesterday at 07:15:46 PM »

oloron is not the same as jehova or allah

Unless you are a yoruba or speaks the yoruba language
as if its your first language, you cannot make such a
declaration. It is Olorun, not Oloron! I think its typo, but
I just want to bring it to your attention. Maybe its a way
for you to reflect that you maybe making such easy to spot
mistakes in other issues. A good one is your clear but wrong
statement about Olorun and Christian Jehovah, and Muslim
Allah. Ask the Yoruba Christians. They will tell you who they
"think" Jehovah is relative to that yoruba word "Olorun?"

I already answer the Islamic opinion, by my defense of the
integrity of Christianity and Christians. We may not agree, but
they and their religion in my eyes are head and shoulders better
than your total unbelief!

And how did nature "suddenly" appeared with all it contains? Is there not a force that has power over it? A God of nature? The Lord of nature? The Preserver of nature? The Provider of nature? The Creator of nature? The One Who nature cherishes without your limited knowledge? Afterall you do not know everything, or do you?
Re: What Can God Not Do? by Chrisbenogor(m): 2:04pm On Oct 19, 2008
@olabowale
Unlike you who believes that you are a different brand of "monkey!"

What do you know about evolution?


@post
God cannot prove to man that he exists, he has to do it through other men, shame really considering all his power and might.
Re: What Can God Not Do? by mazaje(m): 2:13pm On Oct 19, 2008
  I guess the Biblical peoples (Jews and Christians) will have to get back to you
on this "accusation, especially when you see that they will have "problems,"
telling us who is the Truly universal entity known as "God," to those of us who
believe there is one. That has to be the same single entity that you "disbelievers
of His existence are struggling so hard to proof or establish!

In Islam, read the Qur'an, you will not find the same condition of lying or multiple
head god(s). There is Only One God Lord Creator, whose name is ALLAH! He says
that His way is unchanging. You will see it exactly like that in the Qur'an. 


olabowale carry your allah and shove him up. . . .  i am not interested. . . . . .

@post
God cannot prove to man that he exists, he has to do it through other men, shame really considering all his power and might.

Its really a shame. . . . . .

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