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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by dayokanu(m): 3:01am On Sep 17, 2013
Tertiary education in osun State. 5 Universities

Obafemi Awolowo University

Osun State University

Bowen University

Heritage University

Ladoke Akintola College of Medicine

Polytechnic

Federal Polytechnic Ede

Osun State Polytechnic Iree

Osun State College of Technology Esa Oke
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by manny4life(m): 3:18am On Sep 17, 2013
dayokanu:

This is stupidity at its peak

The cash transactions simply as a result of market location. people bring money from everywhere to trade in a market

For people that know Lagos well. Alaba, Katagowa due to the location of markets probably handle more cash transactions per day than Ikeja or VI

Does that mean the economy of Ojo Local Govt is better than that of Ikeja Local Govt or Eti Osa?

You never fail to disappoint, do you? You always go off course anytime your reply. Trade is an economic activity which is defined as sale of goods and services which can exchanged by barter or paid using a legal tender in this case MONEY. Trade (wholesale and Retail) is a contributor to an economic activity, it means more people are willing to pay for goods with money, thereby creating cash transactions, and if recorded appropriately are translated into economic contribution, so yes, even though your example is flawed, by default, OJO LG is economically viable than Ikeja. Ojo LG will record the activity as part of their contribution to the economy as "trade", so it means they are better.

When they tax that cash transaction, it's recorded. When the money is deposited into the banks (which is what CBN recorded), depending, it may be recorded as savings, it means that the LG has a booming activity for such high amounts to be deposited. When a trader decides to build a house, it's called an investment and the economic cycle continue. So yes, legal tender of payments in trade is the trade off between surplus and deficit.

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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by dayokanu(m): 3:30am On Sep 17, 2013
manny4life:

You never fail to disappoint, do you? You always go off course anytime your reply. Trade is an economic activity which is defined as sale of goods and services which can exchanged by barter or paid using a legal tender in this case MONEY. Trade (wholesale and Retail) is a contributor to an economic activity, it means more people are willing to pay for goods with money, thereby creating cash transactions, and if recorded appropriately are translated into economic contribution, so yes, even though your example is flawed, by default, OJO LG is economically viable than Ikeja. Ojo LG will record the activity as part of their contribution to the economy as "trade", so it means they are better.

When they tax that cash transaction, it's recorded. When the money is deposited into the banks (which is what CBN recorded), depending, it may be recorded as savings, it means that the LG has a booming activity for such high amounts to be deposited. When a trader decides to build a house, it's called an investment and the economic cycle continue. So yes, legal tender of payments in trade is the trade off between surplus and deficit.

This thread says GDP. So how does the location of a market in Ojo Alaba which is the driver for cash transactions make the state better than those with industries in Ikeja and VI
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by manny4life(m): 4:08am On Sep 17, 2013
dayokanu:

This thread says GDP. So how does the location of a market in Ojo Alaba which is the driver for cash transactions make the state better than those with industries in Ikeja and VI


I dislike using the word "GDP" because a lot of people throw the word around, and very few understand the core components of what GDP is. GDP is the measure of economic activity, thus, there are diverse economic activities - Trade, Transportation, Energy, Mineral, Energy, Telecommunication, Construction, Agriculture, Manufacturing, etc. These are ALL economic activities, while the industries fall under "manufacturing", it does not change it's legal tender --- MONEY (Cash and it's equivalents).


I never said one was better than the other, what I said was, if we evaluated based on upon economic activity -TRADE- which is the reason for the cash influx, then Ojo is economically viable than Ikeja. Cash influx is not necessary physical cash, this applies to all forms of short-term current cash or it's equivalent.

To answer your question, as long as a market location is involved in TRADE (buying/selling = economic activity), then the volume of tender will be a determinant who's bringing in what exactly. The volume of money is what counts, this is why I said it's a trade off between surplus and deficit. This is not to say that Industrialization is bad, it is indeed encouraged, but I'm just saying it like it is. Heck, Ojo Alaba LG may decide not to trade at all and go all in into "Capital investments", it still counts as part of GDP. What matters is the volume of money (legal tender).

100 companies may be producing $1/unit and each company produces 10million units, that's a $1billion economic activity, however, Ojo may decide to build a $2.1billion mall, roads, rail, energy lighting etc. At the end of the day, Ojo spending $2.1 billion (govt spending) is way better that $1billion. GS is a component of GDP as well, I hope you see the logic. Same rule applies to industries. Keep in mind, this is only FACE VALUE.

PS: Industries still accept cash and cash equivalents as a form of tender. When the industries sell, they sell as WHOLESALE, and when the wholesalers sell, they sell as retail. At the end of the day, they will accept cash or it's equivalent as a tender, therefore, the volume of cash or it's equivalent is a good measure of who brings in what. To add, if they sold abroad, they'd have to pay us in our legal tender (FOREX) thereby exchanging foreign currency to Naira OR exchange using a standard trading currency $$$.

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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by biafranqueen: 4:55am On Sep 17, 2013
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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by yetunsbay(m): 6:51am On Sep 17, 2013
kettykin: First they started these rumours with being the most educated, later jamb was able to truncate their hollow lies with their valid data posted on their website which Dibu ojerinde removed as soon as he became the jamb boss, when this dawned on them that their age long fallacies has been uncovered they started another baseless fallacy and deception with their universities ranking system which has been flushed down the dustbin of history with award winning professors produced by universities in the east rated lowly by their worthless Web rankings.
Next they started another futile dissipation of energy with their over hyping of the achievements of Fashola which has been deflated with results from Uyo, enugu and Rivers, still not done yet they campaigned with out success the un viability of enugu international airport prior to August 24 only to be thoroughly shamed and baffled with consistent flight traffic.
One of their agents presently has a law case hanging over his neck as a result of his misplaced and misguided aggression from attacking and smearing the reputation of some igbo married women when he was presented with bare facts about the ownership of lagos their last hope.
Now they are going about with some fictitious GDP figures trying to sway the sentiments of gullible online Bloggers, this they are doing not minding the fact that the Central Bank of Nigeria has updated nigerians with all the cities where 90% of the monetary transactions and deposits occur.

Of what use is ibadan/Oyo GDP figures when the monetary transactions in Aba and Onitsha is very much higher than it.
Where is the gross domestic product when the it does not produce monetary transactions , the measure of goods and services should translate to cash transactions and measurements
bro u get tym to write dis sha_ _ _shld I say u dey beef SW...
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by kettykin: 7:32am On Sep 17, 2013
yetunsbay: bro u get tym to write dis sha_ _ _shld I say u dey beef SW...
Bro what and why would I beef the South West, I am of the view that the way forward is for the SW and the SE to form separate countries so that the wranglings can end
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by kettykin: 7:32am On Sep 17, 2013
It is very funny and illogical how the reasoning of some people can be, Osun and Oyo with their very big budget and high GDP cannot sustain a domestic airport while Enugu which some oluwole statisticians claim has a lower GDP has the 4th busiest domestic Airport, the most recent and fourth busiest international Airport in the country, if airport traffic and financial transactions can not convince anybody then someone education should be questioned
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Nobody: 7:36am On Sep 17, 2013
dayokanu:

This is stupidity at its peak

The cash transactions simply as a result of market location. people bring money from everywhere to trade in a market

For people that know Lagos well. Alaba, Katagowa due to the location of markets probably handle more cash transactions per day than Ikeja or VI

Does that mean the economy of Ojo Local Govt is better than that of Ikeja Local Govt or Eti Osa?
ur problem is dat u cnt distinguish between economic development and infrastructural development.
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by dayokanu(m): 7:43am On Sep 17, 2013
kettykin: It is very funny and illogical how the reasoning of some people can be, Osun and Oyo with their very big budget and high GDP cannot sustain a domestic airport while Enugu which some oluwole statisticians claim has a lower GDP has the 4th busiest domestic Airport, the most recent and fourth busiest international Airport in the country, if airport traffic and financial transactions can not convince anybody then someone education should be questioned

If you have any common sense you should ask why People in Oyo State need any airport when an International airport is just about an hour drive from Ibadan

Or they should just build an airport just to prove what exactly?

Thats how you people act before thinking
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by dayokanu(m): 7:44am On Sep 17, 2013
customized13: ur problem is dat u cnt distinguish between economic development and infrastructural development.

So tell us which one has more economic development and which one has more infrastructural development

Ojo(Alaba) or Eti Osa (VI)

Kindly display your ignorance for the public
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 7:53am On Sep 17, 2013
dayokanu:

So tell us which one has more economic development and which one has more infrastructural development

Ojo(Alaba) or Eti Osa (VI)

Kindly display your ignorance for the public

I've chosen not to argue with them again

They don't understand basic economic gauges



Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by kettykin: 7:54am On Sep 17, 2013
dayokanu:

If you have any common sense you should ask why People in Oyo State need any airport when an Int airport is just about an hour drive from Ibadan

Or they should just build an airport just to prove what exactly?

Thats how you people act before thinking
If you had checked you would have realised that ibadan has an airport with big enough run way but records very minimal appalling, dissappointing and disgraceful domestic flights despite its claims of being the largest city or slum in Africa , having the 5th biggest economy im Nigeria, the domestic airport traffic of ibadan airport is more appalling than the dismal sales figures of shop rite in ibadan.
Enugu is about 1hour from port Harcourt which has an international airport about 45 minutes from imo airport and about an hour from Asaba airport but Enugu international airport traffic is consistent and regular while the domestic flights are 10000 times better than the ibadan domestic flights
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 8:09am On Sep 17, 2013
kettykin:
If you had checked you would have realised that ibadan has an airport with big enough run way but records very minimal appalling, dissappointing and disgraceful domestic flights despite its claims of being the largest city or slum in Africa , having the 5th biggest economy im Nigeria, the domestic airport traffic of ibadan airport is more appalling than the dismal sales figures of shop rite in ibadan.
Enugu is about 1hour from port Harcourt which has an international airport about 45 minutes from imo airport and about an hour from Asaba airport but Enugu international airport traffic is consistent and regular while the domestic flights are 10000 times better than the ibadan domestic flights

Do you think critically before you post?

What makes those airports viable? Simple. Demand

At least one in three Igbo people don't live in Igboland because of the poverty in the region

In Yorubaland, you rarely find people who live outside their region so what's the point building an airport for people who a really travel domestically? The region is self sustaining economically unlike the East.

Why should a man in Osun, Ekiti or Oyo need an airport when they don't travel from there to other places in the country but internationally which Lagos serves?

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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by omonnakoda: 8:13am On Sep 17, 2013
The biggest market in Nigera,the stock Exchange has ZERO cash transactions. ZERO . So please quit this silly idea that the more banks on a street the richer it is. Alaba does more cash deals probably than Shell or Mobil So what. Onitsha probably does more cas deals that Apple and Google combined. So bleeping what? What does that prove?

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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by omonnakoda: 8:16am On Sep 17, 2013
There are companies in Nigeria that occupy NO MORE than one floor of a multi storey building doing more business than the whole of Onitsha market with Zero Cash transacions
The biggest market in Nigera,the stock Exchange has ZERO cash transactions. ZERO . So please quit this silly idea that the more banks on a street the richer it is. Alaba does more cash deals probably than Shell or Mobil So what. Onitsha probably does more cash deals that Apple,Facebook and Google combined. So bleeping what? What does that prove?.
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 8:19am On Sep 17, 2013
omonnakoda: There are companies in Nigeria that occupy NO MORE than one floor of a multi storey building doing more business than the whole of Onitsha market with Zero Cash transacions
The biggest market in Nigera,the stock Exchange has ZERO cash transactions. ZERO . So please quit this silly idea that the more banks on a street the richer it is. Alaba does more cash deals probably than Shell or Mobil So what. Onitsha probably does more cash deals that Apple,Facebook and Google combined. So bleeping what? What does that prove?.

To them, until they see physical cash, its not money or a means of exchange

Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by kettykin: 8:21am On Sep 17, 2013
geeez:

Do you think critically before you post?

What makes those airports viable? Simple. Demand

At least one in three Igbo people don't live in Igboland because of the poverty in the region

In Yorubaland, you rarely find people who live outside their region so what's the point building an airport for people who a really travel domestically? The region is self sustaining economically unlike the East.

Why should a man in Osun, Ekiti or Oyo need an airport when they don't travel from there to other places in the country but internationally which Lagos serves?
Why are you turning the truth upside down
Below is a link showing the co relationship between airport traffic and GDP
http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/cmo/methodology.page
Are yorubas not in niger delta , North and abuja, the last time yoruba traders were killed in far away volatile borno state
You can read several article on how the gdp of a city co relates with airport traffic it is not a nigerian thing but has a world wide occurrence
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 8:24am On Sep 17, 2013
kettykin:
Why are you turning the truth upside down
Below is a link showing the co relationship between airport traffic and GDP
http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/cmo/methodology.page
Are yorubas not in niger delta , North and abuja, the last time yoruba traders were killed in far away volatile borno state
You can read several article on how the gdp of a city co relates with airport traffic it is not a nigerian thing but has a world wide occurrence

How many Yorubas live outside Yorubaland compared to Igbos that flee there erosion ravished zone?

Airports don't create magical GDP figures

Airports are based on human, cargo and military demands

Most humans from the SW live in the SW because the region is self sustaining

Most cargos come through the seaports with Lagos controlling over 85%

All military airports are situated within airports

And if I should add this, the passenger traffic in Lagos Airports alone is more than traffic from all other airports combined (excluding Abuja)

What this tells you is that Lagos is the hub and other airports for domestic travel have their destinations as Lagos and Abuja

If Lagos is easily accessible by every state in the SW, why should the states have their airports?

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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Trailii: 8:32am On Sep 17, 2013
Wat?
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Trailii: 8:34am On Sep 17, 2013
Who says enugu has more tertiary institutions dan osun state? Institutions in osun state includes obafemi awolowo university, osun state university, ladoke akintola university, bowen university, adeleke university, redemeer university, fountain university, odudua university, joseph ayodele babalola university, interlinks polytechnics, fed poly ede, iree polytechnic, ila politechnic, ife polytechnic, college of health sciences ilesha, polytechnic esa oke, forienglinks politechnics. Just to mention few......only ogun state has more institutions dan osun state in the whole nigeria. Ɣøû can check ur brochure if Ɣøû doubt me. Osun state shuld b a role model to enugu state in every aspect
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Nobody: 8:46am On Sep 17, 2013
geeez:

Do you think critically before you post?

What makes those airports viable? Simple. Demand

At least one in three Igbo people don't live in Igboland because of the poverty in the region

In Yorubaland, you rarely find people who live outside their region so what's the point building an airport for people who a really travel domestically? The region is self sustaining economically unlike the East.

Why should a man in Osun, Ekiti or Oyo need an airport when they don't travel from there to other places in the country but internationally which Lagos serves?
he doesn't knw geography also, SE equal igbos, igbos nt only SE, even if Port harcourt(ikwerres) says they aren't igbos(wch is nt true) asaba is a core igboland. Dnt mention igbo in ur argument, make it SE ok, cos those international airports are in igboland bt nt in SE.
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by kettykin: 8:47am On Sep 17, 2013
Trail ii: Who says enugu has more tertiary institutions dan osun state? Institutions in osun state includes obafemi awolowo university, osun state university, ladoke akintola university, bowen university, adeleke university, redemeer university, fountain university, odudua university, joseph ayodele babalola university, interlinks polytechnics, fed poly ede, iree polytechnic, ila politechnic, ife polytechnic, college of health sciences ilesha, polytechnic esa oke, forienglinks politechnics. Just to mention few......only ogun state has more institutions dan osun state in the whole nigeria. Ɣøû can check ur brochure if Ɣøû doubt me. Osun state shuld b a role model to enugu state in every aspect
NUC Endorsed tertiary institutions
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Nobody: 8:55am On Sep 17, 2013
Trail ii: Who says enugu has more tertiary institutions dan osun state? Institutions in osun state includes obafemi awolowo university, osun state university, ladoke akintola university, bowen university, adeleke university, redemeer university, fountain university, odudua university, joseph ayodele babalola university, interlinks polytechnics, fed poly ede, iree polytechnic, ila politechnic, ife polytechnic, college of health sciences ilesha, polytechnic esa oke, forienglinks politechnics. Just to mention few......only ogun state has more institutions dan osun state in the whole nigeria. Ɣøû can check ur brochure if Ɣøû doubt me. Osun state shuld b a role model to enugu state in every aspect
no be ogun state redeemers universty dey? Jesus!!! Na wa ooo
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 9:00am On Sep 17, 2013
customized13: he doesn't knw geography also, SE equal igbos, igbos nt only SE, even if Port harcourt(ikwerres) says they aren't igbos(wch is nt true) asaba is a core igboland. Dnt mention igbo in ur argument, make it SE ok, cos those international airports are in igboland bt nt in SE.

Why do you guys like forcing associations?

You call yourselves Jews, you claim Ikwerres are Igbos, you claim Ibibios and Efiks are Igbos

This is all your selfish expansionist strategy

How many times have you seen Yorubas claim that Bini or Itshekiri people are Yorubas?

The connection is obvious but we aren't forcing any relationships with them

When you see the likes of Jim Ovia in the Forbes list, you call him Igbo but when some Delta Igbo folks are involved in crime, you quickly dissociate yourselves

I have been also over and I have friends across. Ikwerres, Ibibios, Ijaws, Urhobos and the Efik are not a part of your Biafra and will never be so get it into your head

Your region is landlocked and deadlocked

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Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by kettykin: 9:01am On Sep 17, 2013
customized13: no be ogun state redeemers universty dey? Jesus!!! Na wa ooo
The joker must a funny guy posting schools not in NUC list which are probably some computer training schools as tertiary universities
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 9:01am On Sep 17, 2013
kettykin:
NUC Endorsed tertiary institutions

It's only in the SE we hear of fake universities and NYSC orientation camps

Check the NUC website for those names
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Trailii: 9:02am On Sep 17, 2013
customized13: no be ogun state redeemers universty dey? Jesus!!! Na wa ooo
ode, dere new site and permanent site dey osun state. Ede road to b precise.
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 9:04am On Sep 17, 2013
Trail ii: ode, dere new site and permanent site dey osun state. Ede road to b precise.

I wonder why they can't use google to at least pretend to be smart

If you can post, I presume your device has an Internet connection

http://www.modernghana.com/movie/17737/3/pastor-adeboye-builds-n2-billion-redeemers-univers.html
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Trailii: 9:14am On Sep 17, 2013
kettykin:
The joker must a funny guy posting schools not in NUC list which are probably some computer training schools as tertiary universities
fathead I don't nid to trade words with you. As educated as Ɣøû are, y can't Ɣøû check NUC website to confirm does schl listed above. D least schl above is better dan d best in ur forest called enugu.
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by Nobody: 9:16am On Sep 17, 2013
geeez:

Why do you guys like forcing associations?

You call yourselves Jews, you claim Ikwerres are Igbos, you claim Ibibios and Efiks are Igbos

This is all your selfish expansionist strategy

How many times have you seen Yorubas claim that Bini or Itshekiri people are Yorubas?

The connection is obvious but we aren't forcing any relationships with them

When you see the likes of Jim Ovia in the Forbes list, you call him Igbo but when some Delta Igbo folks are involved in crime, you quickly dissociate yourselves

I have been also over and I have friends across. Ikwerres, Ibibios, Ijaws, Urhobos and the Efik are not a part of your Biafra and will never be so get it into your head

Your region is landlocked and deadlocked
who said efik and ibibios are igbo oh is dat the new lie u want 2 strt? Yes I said ikwerre is igbo, if u want me 2 prove it, I wil. Dnt say wot u dnt kw. I served in ikwerre land, thr is nthng like ikwerre name, thr is nthng like ikwerre church song, they understand central igbo very well, padi me its just like ijebu of yorubaland, if u aren't frm thr, u cnt understand dem very well. Check ur wikipedia and dnt argue nonsense wt me. Does bini understan yoruba language? Do thr names sound like yoruba names? Do they sing yoruba songs?
Re: Osun State GDP Higher than Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu & Ebonyi by geeez: 9:19am On Sep 17, 2013
customized13: who said efik and ibibios are igbo oh is dat the new lie u want 2 strt? Yes I said ikwerre is igbo, if u want me 2 prove it, I wil. Dnt say wot u dnt kw. I served in ikwerre land, thr is nthng like ikwerre name, thr is nthng like ikwerre church song, they understand central igbo very well, padi me its just like ijebu of yorubaland, if u aren't frm thr, u cnt understand dem very well.

Attaché by force

Isn't that how you guys said Namadi Sambo is Nnamdi?

Ikwerres have said they are not Igbos. If you're not Ikwerre, just shut up and read up

http://www.gamji.com/article9000/NEWS9062.htm

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