I think their are two school of thoughts to this subject. some say that satan had been cast down before he met Eve while some believe that he was cast years after the first century.

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE AND WHY?

Well, I think maybe you should ask Google or Ifa.

Anuoluwap: Well, I think maybe you should ask Google or Ifa.

JMAN05: I think their are two school of thoughts to this subject. some say that satan had been cast down before he met Eve while some believe that he was cast years after the first century.

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE AND WHY?

The first casting down was time immemorial while the second casting down has not happened yet.....a prophecy yet to be fulfilled!

Lucifer, now referred to as Satan the devil, was cast down from Heaven by Archangel Michael long before the second creation by God as captured in Genesis chapter 1.

On friday the 13th

twosquare: The first casting down was time immemorial while the second casting down has not happened yet.....a prophecy yet to be fulfilled!

ok, but Scriptural prove pls.

Shy Steady: Lucifer, now referred to as Satan the devil, was cast down from Heaven by Archangel Michael long before the second creation by God as captured in Genesis chapter 1.

No casting was recorded on genesis 1.

JMAN05:

ok, but Scriptural prove pls.

Isaiah 14: 12 is also wat John d Beloved saw in Revelation 12:7. It is a future prophecy of how satan will b thrown down frm the “air"- a type of heaven dat is d boundary btwn d earth and d heaven of heavens which God's angels live in......
Check dis link 4 better explanation
[url][/url]http://www.spiritualgazette.com/ascending-into-the-hill-of-god-part-3-3882110
And dis [url][/url]http://m.articlesbase.com/christianity-articles/ascending-into-the-hill-of-god-part-2-3672417.html

This is a very interesting topic both school of thoughts are wrong. The truth is many don't know how lucifer came into being. Let give a very abridged version. Lucifer was not created in heaven, neither was he cast down before the fall. He went into heaven when he collected the authority of man, but has the bible records in the book of revelation "that there was no more room again for Satan and was cast down", it happened after the resurrection and assertion of Christ Jesus when Christ collected back the authority that Adam gave to satan. That's also why in the same revelation the bible said woe unto the inhabitants of earth for the devil is cast down unto u and he knows his time is short, for Adam authority on the earth was a lease for a period of time. That's the devil is the god of this world.

Op, wait, let me consult my oracle.

noblefada: This is a very interesting topic both school of thoughts are wrong. The truth is many don't know how lucifer came into being. Let give a very abridged version. Lucifer was not created in heaven, neither was he cast down before the fall. He went into heaven when he collected the authority of man, but has the bible records in the book of revelation "that there was no more room again for Satan and was cast down", it happened after the resurrection and assertion of Christ Jesus when Christ collected back the authority that Adam gave to satan. That's also why in the same revelation the bible said woe unto the inhabitants of earth for the devil is cast down unto u and he knows his time is short, for Adam authority on the earth was a lease for a period of time. That's the devil is the god of this world.

in that case i believe that u'v never read isaiah 14 or ezekiel 28

Debeloved87: in that case i believe that u'v never read isaiah 14 or ezekiel 28

No those passages actually prove what I'm saying, u just need spiritual insight to understand, but let point out something to u, lucifer was created a cherub that is an angel, and angels are serving spirit not dominion spirit Heb 1:14.

twosquare: Isaiah 14: 12 is also wat John d Beloved saw in Revelation 12:7. It is a future prophecy of how satan will b thrown down frm the “air"- a type of heaven dat is d boundary btwn d earth and d heaven of heavens which God's angels live in......
Check dis link 4 better explanation
[url][/url]http://www.spiritualgazette.com/ascending-into-the-hill-of-god-part-3-3882110
And dis [url][/url]http://m.articlesbase.com/christianity-articles/ascending-into-the-hill-of-god-part-2-3672417.html

I hope you used Isaiah to prove first phase of casting satan.

the prophesy at Isaiah 14 is not made for
the Devil but for the king of babylon.

Isaiah 14:4 KJV

"That thou shalt take up this proverb
against the king of Babylon , and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the
golden city ceased!"

In verse 16 you will see the prophesy is
about a man. Isaiah 14:16 KJV
They that see thee shall narrowly look
upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is
this the man that made the earth to
tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Note that this is a proverbial saying.
some translation call it, TAUTING word.
so those words are not basically what
the king did but it was used to taunt
him. for eg he is not a shining one or lucifer as a name but the word was used to
jest him cos of his being immodest and
haughty.

Even if you want to apply to satan as a principle of his claims, you should remember that it was a prophecy, NOT what has already happened.

Secondly, the words are a taunt or proverbial sayings. so that place is not saying that lucifer is the name of satan or that of babylonian king, but was used to jest him as it were.

The casting of satan was the one recorded in revelation which fulfilled AFTER the first century CE.

noblefada: This is a very interesting topic both school of thoughts are wrong. The truth is many don't know how lucifer came into being. Let give a very abridged version. Lucifer was not created in heaven, neither was he cast down before the fall. He went into heaven when he collected the authority of man, but has the bible records in the book of revelation "that there was no more room again for Satan and was cast down", it happened after the resurrection and assertion of Christ Jesus when Christ collected back the authority that Adam gave to satan. That's also why in the same revelation the bible said woe unto the inhabitants of earth for the devil is cast down unto u and he knows his time is short, for Adam authority on the earth was a lease for a period of time. That's the devil is the god of this world.

Scripture pls.