Elliotwiz1: is that the only point you read? I'm not here to argue about this, i just discovered i'm wasting my mb by replying You'...I've told you the truth, if you like accept, if you like refuse it, It's your choice.....you like quoting only the versions of the bible that favours you, you look blindly at the real things and focus on what favours You'...It's your choice... mal3:11="....if i will not rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil...." does this ring a bell? ....tithe is being paid to someone who is spiritually higher than you, or who you consider a spiritual father...was anyone above Jesus when he was on earth? No, no one was...above the apostles?? I dont know of any, Paul did not pay because he was not a worker...he was a stern evangelism who feeds from what others give...bible passages shows that people paid tithe or what looks like tithe during the days of the apostles, the story of ananias and his wife is a clear example....you know the truth, but You've refused to accept it, You've blinded your mind from the truth, if you dont want to pay your tithe, feel free but dont preach it as a doctrine of christ....!...Walks out of the thread*

honeric01: Where is the sense in giving "God' 10% of what God gave you so he can open the windows of heaven to pour more unto you so the circle can continue?

Would a father expect his children to give him 10% of the 'pocket money ' he gives them so as to give them more?

Jesus preached mostly on generous giving and frown on compulsory giving.

Any compulsory giving lacks dignity and no blessing is attached to it says our lord Jesus Christ.

idnoble135:
I would have but....
This is a testimony thread. Dont derail.
It is well o.

Tom29:
devil don dey capture dis one. devil knows d bible more than any human being. we must resist him and spot all d anti christ like dis one. 95% of dis site members are anti christ. all must shine dier eyez

Pistolx: from my observation all churches in nigeria ask for tithe,may u pple shuld open ur church dat dey dnt pay tithes and lets see how u wil cope@op

Deu 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deu 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Deu 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
Deu 14:27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
Deu 14:28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
Deu 14:29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

Neh 13:5 And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests.

Neh 13:12 Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.

gp66: pls I need a help from a good person who hv in depth knowledge of d scripture.

Can a man be saved when he pays tithe and yet unbaptized?

Does tithing means securing ur finance?

Why is it that pastors are concerned abt ur tithes and offerings bt dnt care hw u manage to get that money?

God bless us as i await ur sound replies.

stexsy: this pastor kun is an agent of darkness, i believe he is send to lead people to hell pls beware of him. Tithing all d way

Act_17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Candour:

you'll be shocked you just uttered an untrue statement.

Not all Churches in Nigeria collect tithes

jambogini: Please list the churches or congregations aside from Jehovah's Witness that dont pay tithe, i do like to visit such congregations.

jambogini: Please list the churches or congregations aside from Jehovah's Witness that dont pay tithe, i do like to visit such congregations.

temilexis: I am so highly disappointed that the writer did not come up with any valuable details over his claims on why tithes are not necessary. I would have been very happy if you elaborated much on reasons why we should not give our one tenth.

gp66: pls I need a help from a good person who hv in depth knowledge of d scripture.

Can a man be saved when he pays tithe and yet unbaptized?

Does tithing means securing ur finance?

Why is it that pastors are concerned abt ur tithes and offerings bt dnt care hw u manage to get that money?

God bless us as i await ur sound replies.

Pastor Kun:

Too many brethen are suffering becos of this false doctrine and the gospel of Christ is being polluted in the process. We cannot afford to rest on our oars whilst brethen are perishing due to lack of knowledge.

Pistolx: from my observation all churches in nigeria ask for tithe,may u pple shuld open ur church dat dey dnt pay tithes and lets see how u wil cope@op

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...

2 Peter 2:3 In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago and their destruction will not be delayed.

carin4u: Do we testify to sin? No we don't. Tithing is an instruction from God not to enrich the pastors, but that His work on earth may not suffer due to lack of funds. Anybody that diverts has him/herself to blame. It is not in our place to judge. God will decisively deal with the dissidents.

bomsilaga: I appreciate this thread cos my personal testimony about tithing is one of God's grace and love. as a young Christian, I was taught all the benefits of tithing and as it's put; I tithed faithfully.
my church later introduced serious prayers for tithe payers and that was my turning point. I went back to God for direction and was confident that God won't just destroy me for stopping tithing.

God's goodness ever since I stopped cannot be measured as I have moved from seeking daily bread to a provider of daily bread
tithing is no longer necessary just have a considerate heart and do good to all men.
thanks
haters will always hate and the blindness will only increase.

honeric01:

Don't turn it into a fight, let me ask you again, who among the early christians pay tithe? Kindly help with bible reference too and pls stop quoting malachi for questions pertaining the new testament.

YOU MEAN THE STORY OF Annaias & Sapphira WAS ABOUT TITHE? Anything to support what you can backup?

How does this concern tithe?

Acts 5:1-11 New International Version (NIV) Ananias and Sapphira Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest
and put it at the apostles’ feet. 3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the
Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the
money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was
sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What
made you think of doing such a thing? You have
not lied just to human beings but to God.” 5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what
had happened. 6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him
out and buried him. 7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for
the land?” “Yes,” she said, “that is the price.” 9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the
men who buried your husband are at the door,
and they will carry you out also.” 10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding
her dead, carried her out and buried her beside
her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.

Alumnus: There are some questions I would seriously want any tithe advocate to answer, maybe they will win me over

1. The Bible mentioned tithe about 10 times, why is it only the one of Malachi that all our pastors preach about?
2. Is it wrong for me to pay my tithe to the poor around me if and when I choose according to the commandment in Numbers and Leviticus?
3. If tithing is as important as our pastors want to make me believe(by preaching about it every sunday even more than they preach about salvation), how come Jesus didn't instruct his disciples to pay tithe?
4. The disciples had some form of careers that kept them and their families going, who did they pay their tithe to?
5. There are about 1000 commandments in the old testament, from how to worship God to how to relate with others, why did we jetison all these commands but cleave to tithe and not just cleaving to it but insisting on only the tithe of Malachi chapter 3.?
6. Even if we agree to the tithe message, does the command in Malachi cancel the ones in Number and Leviticus?

I need answers to these because that is thesame way i was taught while growing up that 3 wise men came to visit Jesus only to realise that the bible did not mention the number of wise men that paid him a visit. Am also very curious because, this emphasy on tithing started with the rise of Pentecostal churches in Nigeria, How come the Orthodox churches that were before us don't lay this kind of emphasy?

Deu 26:12 When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
Deu 26:13 Then thou shalt say before the LORD thy God, I have brought away the hallowed things out of mine house, and also have given them unto the Levite, and unto the stranger, to the fatherless, and to the widow, according to all thy commandments which thou hast commanded me: I have not transgressed thy commandments, neither have I forgotten them:
Deu 26:14 I have not eaten thereof in my mourning, neither have I taken away ought thereof for any unclean use, nor given ought thereof for the dead: but I have hearkened to the voice of the LORD my God, and have done according to all that thou hast commanded me.
Deu 26:15 Look down from thy holy habitation, from heaven, and bless thy people Israel, and the land which thou hast given us, as thou swarest unto our fathers, a land that floweth with milk and honey.
Deu 26:16 This day the LORD thy God hath commanded thee to do these statutes and judgments: thou shalt therefore keep and do them with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
Deu 26:17 Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice:

Mal 1:1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

Mal 2:1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.
Mal 2:2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.
Mal 2:3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.
Mal 2:4 And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you, that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mal 2:5 My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name.
Mal 2:6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.
Mal 2:7 For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.
Mal 2:8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.