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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by jonnyp(m): 12:27am On Oct 10, 2013
fadinu baba u don reah here.
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 12:32am On Oct 10, 2013
Baboyisi, just curious. What makes you say the medical field is the easiest of all fields for immigrants to enter?

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 3:17am On Oct 10, 2013
ogugua88: Baboyisi, just curious. What makes you say the medical field is the easiest of all fields for immigrants to enter?

That is one area in high demand
Americans are not meeting up with that demand that was why agencies were recruiting from Africa,the Caribbean and the Philippines
The healthcare field is a vast market and the best paid comparatively so it is a good place for an immigrant to go into and make a decent living.
Don't take my word for it,check it out yourself.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:36am On Oct 10, 2013
babyosisi: That is one area in high demand
Americans are not meeting up with that demand that was why agencies were recruiting from Africa,the Caribbean and the Philippines
The healthcare field is a vast market and the best paid comparatively so it is a good place for an immigrant to go into and make a decent living.
Don't take my word for it,check it out yourself.

I'm already in healthcare. I wouldn't really call it easy. I know how long it took me to become a volunteer in a hospital last year, talkless of working there now

Do they still have those recruiting agencies? I haven't heard of such in a long time.

It can only be easy when you have an MD/DO degree looking for a job as a physician or you're applying for an entry-level position and you have the classes, certifications, and experience required AND you don't mind working in a senior folks' home. Something as basic as a certificate in nurse assisting can cost over a thousand dollars, and the $14/hr job one trained for isn't even guaranteed.

The troubled economy played a huge role in the increase of newly unemployed folks seeking healthcare training, degrees, and jobs. A lot of those who were laid off in retail, construction, IT, etc., have gone back to school for nursing, sonography, etc. With more applicants, the chances of getting a foot into healthcare reduces.

It's tough on all levels. Average MCAT scores and GPAs are increasing for med school. Nursing is as competitive as ever, with a Bachelors of Science in Nursing (BSN) gradually becoming a requirement. Those who have a bachelors can spend months finding a job. It's stressful.

The pay such professionals can boast of is to compensate for the rigorous training and education they endure. Anyone thinking that getting into a system like healthcare is easy is in for a rude awakening.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by jonnyp(m): 6:21am On Oct 10, 2013
jonnyp: @Babyosisi thanks for your respose.am not realy good at science subject and i dont think i can cope.pls if there is anyother course i could read that wil get me job after graduation wil be appreciated.thanks!
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 7:04am On Oct 10, 2013
Hi house! I'm admitted to a University in Minnesota to study political science starting Spring '14..

My questions are: Can i get a job on H1B after graduation ?
Who can file for me ?

Thanks!

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by chyk91(m): 10:36am On Oct 10, 2013
Babyosisi, thank u for your reply, I really appreciate.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by simplynola(m): 4:38pm On Oct 10, 2013
The Beauty of the whole thing is that Ozo Emeka and Babyosisi are beautiful Nigerians in America with diverse view points. They both mean well for Nigerians. They are on the same sea with different ships. Its a "No holds barred" thats the beauty of Nigeria. Anyways, Ozo and BabyOsisi am inviting you both for Lunch in Nigeria.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:37pm On Oct 10, 2013
ogugua88:

I'm already in healthcare. I wouldn't really call it easy. I know how long it took me to become a volunteer in a hospital last year, talkless of working there now

Do they still have those recruiting agencies? I haven't heard of such in a long time.

It can only be easy when you have an MD/DO degree looking for a job as a physician or you're applying for an entry-level position and you have the classes, certifications, and experience required AND you don't mind working in a senior folks' home. Something as basic as a certificate in nurse assisting can cost over a thousand dollars, and the $14/hr job one trained for isn't even guaranteed.

The troubled economy played a huge role in the increase of newly unemployed folks seeking healthcare training, degrees, and jobs. A lot of those who were laid off in retail, construction, IT, etc., have gone back to school for nursing, sonography, etc. With more applicants, the chances of getting a foot into healthcare reduces.

It's tough on all levels. Average MCAT scores and GPAs are increasing for med school. Nursing is as competitive as ever, with a Bachelors of Science in Nursing (BSN) gradually becoming a requirement. Those who have a bachelors can spend months finding a job. It's stressful.

The pay such professionals can boast of is to compensate for the rigorous training and education they endure. Anyone thinking that getting into a system like healthcare is easy is in for a rude awakening.

Everything I said is comparatively
If you think healthcare is tough with the downturn of the economy,try the others
Holders of other degrees are going back to retrain in healthcare fields,what does that tell you
It is easier
That is why majority of Nigerian women in America are nurses and nurse aides

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:45pm On Oct 10, 2013
Don't believe me read the people that gather the stats


All jobs aren't created equal. In fact, some are simply better than the rest. U.S. News 100 Best Jobs of 2013 are the occupations that offer a mosaic of employment opportunity, good salary, manageable work-life balance, and job security. Some careers offer just the right mix of these components—for instance, our top tier is filled with tech and healthcare jobs—but the list also includes strong showings from occupations in the social services and business sectors. Even construction jobs enter the fray this year. Read more on how we rank the best jobs, and check out our full list.

See the list
http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/rankings/the-100-best-jobs
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:49pm On Oct 10, 2013
Amefrica: Hi house! I'm admitted to a University in Minnesota to study political science starting Spring '14..

My questions are: Can i get a job on H1B after graduation ?
Who can file for me ?

Thanks!

Maybe if you did a teachers certification after that you could teach history and social studies in elementary and middle school
I don't see any other ready prospects to be honest
Many localities are always hiring teachers
If you are ready to move anywhere,I am sure there is a school district that would want you enough to file for an H1B

Bear in mind that HI B would require you leave the USA to be stamped at the border
Many years ago you were required to go to your country of origin but now Mexico or Canada would be Ok ( after you get their visas)
We went to Mexico during out own time
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:52pm On Oct 10, 2013
babyosisi:

What will you do with it
What type of job do you hope to get with a degree in political science?

I wanna become the Minister for foreign affairs here in 9ja later in life.

I dont know what jobs i can get with it in US.. Any idea from you will be appreciated.
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:56pm On Oct 10, 2013
Lol
I modified my posts
I dey come
Make I go warm my jollof rice
Hunger don come
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 6:22pm On Oct 10, 2013
It's not a matter of not believing someone. The road to nursing or medicine is not easy and that's a fact. I'm speaking from experience, not lists. To advise someone who wants to come to the USA and study arts or communications to go into the medical field or health industry because it's easiest is like telling someone walking through fire will give you a warm sensation. The years of training required to become a nurse or doctor are either numerous, rigorous, or both. To become a nurse, one has to do two years of nursing prerequisites, take the TEAS exam, get accepted into a program and do two years of clinicals, then graduate. Then, they have to pass the NCLEX to be allowed to work as a nurse. One needs a bachelors degree, premedical coursework, a decent MCAT score, and a slew of extracurriculars and leadership experience just to be considered for medical school. There's nothing easy about any of it. If it was easy, then everyone would do it, yet there's been a physician shortage and nursing shortage for how many years now. There's a big difference between something being in high demand and something being easy.

Not everyone is tailored to go into health. Whoever is considering it has to decide whether he or she can dedicate the time, money, and sacrifice required to succeed.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Tochium: 6:47pm On Oct 10, 2013
babyosisi:

That is one area in high demand
Americans are not meeting up with that demand that was why agencies were recruiting from Africa,the Caribbean and the Philippines
The healthcare field is a vast market and the best paid comparatively so it is a good place for an immigrant to go into and make a decent living.
Don't take my word for it,check it out yourself.



I agree with you that there is high demand for it but it is not the highest paid job. IT jobs r highest paid
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 6:50pm On Oct 10, 2013
babyosisi:

Maybe if you did a teachers certification after that you could teach history and social studies in elementary and middle school
I don't see any other ready prospects to be honest
Many localities are always hiring teachers
If you are ready to move anywhere,I am sure there is a school district that would want you enough to file for an H1B

Bear in mind that HI B would require you leave the USA to be stamped at the border
Many years ago you were required to go to your country of origin but now Mexico or Canada would be Ok ( after you get their visas)
We went to Mexico during out own time

Roger! How much would one make as wages teaching a class
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Tochium: 6:54pm On Oct 10, 2013
Amefrica: Hi house! I'm admitted to a University in Minnesota to study political science starting Spring '14..

My questions are: Can i get a job on H1B after graduation ?
Who can file for me ?

Thanks!

Badt guy, u don show here
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by fadinus(m): 7:27pm On Oct 10, 2013
jonnyp: fadinu baba u don reah here.

I dey here bro, werin dey na?
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 7:35pm On Oct 10, 2013
Tochium:

Badt guy, u don show here

grin Hahahaha! Why you dey follow me everywhere.? Did they assign u to me Are you an fbi ? I go swear for u oo.. grin
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by xp17(m): 9:09pm On Oct 10, 2013
kilode95: And to think I was going to remove atlanta from my list(i wanna transfer to georgia tech)...
I've heard stuffs about it ...the crime rate and all...

Ogugua, wetin east coast do 4 una...
kilode ma'am,
Atlanta to Georgia is very far, infact in another local government grin
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by xp17(m): 9:16pm On Oct 10, 2013
Husmern: thanks....can I quickly apply at college when I get there without getting job first? Or I can do both at once? And which college will u suggest for me as best? How do I search n apply? Vegas strip keh! Where do I know?
working and schooling simultaneously is not dat easy .


Apply at www.csn.edu ,


That is the community college.

Note: u may pay out of state tuition, since u re not a Nevada resident.

It takes 365days to establish a resident in NV, except ur parent re NV resident. Re they?.


Caveat:
1.commercial transportation is a big problem in NV. (no train station).
2. Casino is a dead end,
3. Forget marriage tins, las Vegas ladies re gbastika nd akpako women. It would b beta for u to pick from hell than las Vegas..
4. Stay away frm friends,
5. A crime free record is the best resume.
6. Leave all nija orientations at either MMA or McCarran airport and b open minded to learn new way of life. (no say na so we dey do am for nija), learn, learn and learn.
7.don't b over ambitions.
8. Respect only those who earn it
9. Get ur driver's license asap.
10. Even if u naturalize , remember nija is still ya country.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by jonnyp(m): 9:30pm On Oct 10, 2013
amefric!america!omo ib otu tide ibi.
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 10:40pm On Oct 10, 2013
jonnyp: amefric!america!omo ib otu tide ibi.

grin No knowlege is a waste!
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by kilode95(f): 3:23am On Oct 11, 2013
xp17: kilode ma'am,
Atlanta to Georgia is very far, infact in another local government grin

What are you saying?
sad
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by ade2rasq: 1:50pm On Oct 11, 2013
Hello madam, well done for the gr8 work u re doin here. Pls I want to knw ur recommendation for somebody dat has mechanical engr background and planning to immigrate to the us with his family through dv, though yet to be interviewed. I also have IT knowledge. I m thinking of doing some IT certification before finally immigrating, may be that wil giv me a quick start and at the same time considering may be to venture into medical field but my interest is mostly in IT. I want to know:
1- hw lucrative is IT career over there.
2-if lucrative, which area of IT is most lucrative over there.
3-if i m ur broda wot wil u recommend.
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 2:29am On Oct 12, 2013
ogugua88: It's not a matter of not believing someone. The road to nursing or medicine is not easy and that's a fact. I'm speaking from experience, not lists. To advise someone who wants to come to the USA and study arts or communications to go into the medical field or health industry because it's easiest is like telling someone walking through fire will give you a warm sensation. The years of training required to become a nurse or doctor are either numerous, rigorous, or both. To become a nurse, one has to do two years of nursing prerequisites, take the TEAS exam, get accepted into a program and do two years of clinicals, then graduate. Then, they have to pass the NCLEX to be allowed to work as a nurse. One needs a bachelors degree, premedical coursework, a decent MCAT score, and a slew of extracurriculars and leadership experience just to be considered for medical school. There's nothing easy about any of it. If it was easy, then everyone would do it, yet there's been a physician shortage and nursing shortage for how many years now. There's a big difference between something being in high demand and something being easy.

Not everyone is tailored to go into health. Whoever is considering it has to decide whether he or she can dedicate the time, money, and sacrifice required to succeed.

Honey please let us stop splitting hairs
You know exactly what I'm talking about but you just want to argue
I would rather you don't do this
The medical profession has a myriad of courses including those that take 4 weeks and some that last 9 months and more and you know that
Why you pick on medicine and nursing alone beats me
My aim here is to help people not to waste time studying courses that will lead them no where in the USA

If you decide to take one prerequisite course for nursing at a time it could take you years to complete,others have done it all in 2 years .



These are those courses,some will take 4 weeks others years

Radiography
Sonography ( ultrasound)
Surgical assisting
Phlebotomy
Medical assisting
Dental assisting
Physical therapy
Physical therapy assistants
Nursing
Nurse assistants
Psychiatry aides
Licensed practical nurse
Dental hygiene
Dental lab tech
Dentists
Optometry
Optician
Chiropractor
Physician
Physician assistant
Occupational therapy
Lab tech
Pharmacy
Pharm tech
Audiologists
Dialysis Technician
Emergency Medical Technician
Histologic Technician
Histologist
Home health aide
Radiation therapist
Respiratory therapist
Respiratory therapy aide
Optometry tech
Speech pathologist
Podiatrists



I am sure there are more

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 3:07am On Oct 12, 2013
My first job in the USA BTW was working as a home health aide taking care of senior citizens in their homes
I made $10 an hour which was big money for a fresh immigrant
That was in the 90's when minimum wage was $4.50
The course took 3 weeks of study
2 weeks in a classroom and one week in the nursing home then the state certification exam later on.
I am speaking of what I know
I later went on to a program to get licensed in my field
Other friends of mine continued on and became nurses.
Any immigrant reading,I advise you to look into any of the courses I listed above.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 3:46am On Oct 12, 2013
I picked on medicine because your first post said "medical field". No one is splitting hairs. I'm only speaking from experience. I currently work in the emergency department of the downtown hospital. Before, I was in the ICU. You've spoken of yours, which was from the 1990s. It's not the 1990s anymore. It's 2013, and as someone in one of the largest states who's currently at the entry level end, I'm only saying that it's hard for citizens, talkless of immigrants. This isn't the boom of the Clinton era. We're still recovering from a recession.

Not everyone will go to wherever you live. The educational landscape where you are can be completely different elsewhere. Nursing is an impacted course here in California at every single school that nursing degrees are offered. It takes most people 3-4 years to take the prerequisites and exam because there are so many people competing for a small number of seats. Last semester at my uni, the average GPA was a 3.88 and the entrance exam average was 92%. Getting in is no piece of cake.
Even to be a home health aide, one has to be certified as a nurse aide and have six months of nurse aide experience or enter a home health aide training course, at least over here.

There is nothing easy about medicine or health care like you said. That's my only point. Because you can do it and because I am doing it doesn't mean it's for everyone. Since when did going into healthcare and being partly or fully responsible for someone's life become easy?

If I go through your list of professions, you'll say I'm nitpicking. It's good to be optimistic, but reality shouldn't be brushed to the side. Anything in healthcare, with the exception of environmental technicians (cleaners/janitors), has a cost attached to it, be it in time or money. Being a nurse aide in a trauma hospital is more stressful than managing a McDonald's. It would be a shame if someone came to the USA on your notion that "medicine is easy", found out that they couldn't cope with the stress, and quit, finding themselves without thousands of dollars they had before. It's not like retail, restaurants, or hospitality where one can go in and back out with no adverse effects. Those whom are coming from abroad do not have the option of taking loans like Americans do. Give advice the best you can surely. I've never spoken ill of your thread, but don't describe something as peachy when it's laced with thorns.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:09am On Oct 12, 2013
Ogugua, will you quit arguing? She never said the medical field is a piece of cake. She just mentioned a less difficult and practical way to get a job in the USA.

If you don't agree with her, all you need do is mention other fields/alternatives you think will be less difficult for immigrants to get a job! Its not for you to dismiss what she said without trying to provide any answers to the questions of these intending immigrants.

Babyosisi, carry on jor. More ororo to your elbow.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 5:17am On Oct 12, 2013
Actually she did. She said it was easy. That's the only reason I commented. There's no such thing as "easy" unless someone is going into restaurants or retail. One can start from an associate and be assistant manager within two years and survive.

And it isn't less difficult. Maybe after the years of training or coursework and one gets to where they wish, then it can be called easy, but it's either someone takes the "lower-tier" job as an aide and suffers physical pain while lifting immobile patients or wiping butts, or they rigorously study day in, day out for years and come out as a physician or dentist.

Neither are easy. In fact, nothing is easy. Life isn't easy. There's no easy alternative, and no one should come to the USA looking for easy ways or be deluded about "less difficult" alternatives. That's all I'm saying.

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Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by kunlebal(m): 7:07am On Oct 12, 2013
@ogugua n babyosis! I'm admitted to a University in california for MBA starting winter '14..

My questions is: what kind of job can I get after graduation ?

Thanks!
Note: am a graduate of accounting from nigeria with 5years working experience in an automotive company as an account officer
Re: Ask Me Any Questions About America,straight Talk from a Nigerian in America by Nobody: 7:43am On Oct 12, 2013
ogugua88: Actually she did. She said it was easy. That's the only reason I commented. There's no such thing as "easy" unless someone is going into restaurants or retail. One can start from an associate and be assistant manager within two years and survive.

And it isn't less difficult. Maybe after the years of training or coursework and one gets to where they wish, then it can be called easy, but it's either someone takes the "lower-tier" job as an aide and suffers physical pain while lifting immobile patients or wiping butts, or they rigorously study day in, day out for years and come out as a physician or dentist.

Neither are easy. In fact, nothing is easy. Life isn't easy. There's no easy alternative, and no one should come to the USA looking for easy ways or be deluded about "less difficult" alternatives. That's all I'm saying.

I understand you perfectly. I'm in medicals too, so I get where you are coming from. All babyosisi is saying is that; people in medicals are generally more employable across board than their counterparts, reason she is advising intending immigrants to look along that line. We all know that going into medicals is no piece of cake anywhere in the world. But people have done it. You did it, I did it, they too can do it. It's not beyond anyone who is focused and determined. We are talking of the end result, the employability of the said individual.

If you say there is no less difficult way, then what do you advice they do? What do you recommend? They shouldn't migrate at all?

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