obi alfa:

Meaning you can't answer the question. There's no need for any argument.

italo:

When someone avoids you, it could be because he is ignorant and unable to refute the truth. Yes.

But have you ever thought that it might be because he has found you ignorant yet unwilling to accept the truth?

Is that not a good reason to avoid someone?

italo: ^^^

If you deny that Mary made a request of Jesus and he granted it, I have nothing to discuss with you on that topic.

I will save my breath for men of integrity.

adsonstone:

I can now see clearly that you cannot stand to declare what you believe in.
If you could, you wont write what I've quoted.

italo:

Why are you unable to answer my questions yet you ask more questions.

You never answer questions, even on the other thread.

What are you scared of?

ajayikayod:

U always look for a way out by refusing to answer ppl. It shows how little u put to studying d scriptures.
All questions u asked me here and other thread, i answered. If u r not sure ask me again and u shall recieve so dt ur joy mit be full. All i see in u is a man jumping around wit little or no idea of wat he (was born into)believed in.

italo:

Yes. I refuse to stand to declare I believe in to the enemy of truth.

Even Jesus ignored enemies of truth in their foolishness many times.

It did change a thing about him.

Let me imitate the master.

italo:

It was Russel that started your organization. Stop lying.

try69:

Go to the thread italo opened and answer his quests about your false prophesies over the year

Many will arise with false prophesies and mislead others - jesus

Google charles taze russell bro, he founded JW, when he died rutherford took over, stop lying here to cover up.

Russell's wife while seeking for divorce, told the court hidden truths about russell and ROSE BALL..

Normally I would not attack personal morality but doctrine but to think that the founder of JW actually did these things are more proof that it was a certain spirit and not the holy spirit that directed his path.

And oh you also said the UN is satanic, has that teaching changed

Infact go to the other thread

damerry: ^^^ And what's satanic about celibacy? Defend Russell and leave it at that. why bring up celibacy?
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Shows you want to diverge from the Russell talk.

damerry: ^^^ And what's satanic about celibacy? Defend Russell and leave it at that. why bring up celibacy?
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Shows you want to diverge from the Russell talk.

JMAN05:

A doctrine against d bible is a satanic human tradition.

italo:

Show me where we claimed we are to beg Mary to Jesus so that we can have access to the Father.

italo:
...that she learned at the apostles' feet. Prove it from the Bible.

italo:
On the other thread, I cant remember you telling where 1Cor3:15 is talking about and where 1Cor15:29 is talking about.

ajayikayod:

To help u from running away from all u r bein asked, lets assume u r correct dt 1 Cor 3:15 is purgatory (so it exist). Ar u ok?
Now We can look at my early post and apply ds too, or u can answer otherwise.

From ur claim on purgatory as d location of d fire trial, dt means Paul, Mary (ur beloved mother Mary), Ur Popes hav all been to d purgatory. If i draw further on ur believe dt d purgatory is meant to clean some sins. That means Paul, Mary, Popes hav all suffered thr becos definately no one is absolutely righteous (pure) in obeying d law.

Was Paul in purgatory?
Was Mary (ur beloved) in purgatory?
Was All ur Popes (Visible head) in purgatory?
U, how long do u think u will burn thr with d way u ar going?


italo:
1Cor3:15 doesnt mention that everybody will suffer loss and be saved as through the fire.

Indeed, v14 shows that some will receive their rewards immediately, without any loss or hassles.

Mary and the Saints (known and unknown) fall into this Category.

As for the Popes, just like the rest of us, some of them are certainly Saints, the others could be Saints, in purgatory or in hell.

Maybe you can help tell us where the dead in 1Cor15:29 are.

ajayikayod:

Please can u show me dt in d scripture dt Mary and Paul didnt go to purgatory? D bible say all will be tested. Where? U said its purgatory. By d function of d Law, Mary and Paul arent pure by ur standard. D whole church was called saints in d scripture. Whether they received reward or not is another thing, d major info here is dt Mary and Paul also were in ur purgatory


italo:
Not all people will be tested, but their works which is judgement.

Afterwards, some PEOPLE (Saints)will receive their rewards immediately without wahala(Heaven)

Others will be saved o, but they will suffer loss and it will be as if they passed through fire.(purgatory)

Where are the dead in 1Cor 15:29?

When will you ever answer a question?

ajayikayod:

U r not answering wat u r asked. Lets finished ds one on 1Corith 3:15 b4 moving to another scripture, stop jumping around.

1 Cor 3:13-15, D bible says all work will b tested by fire (including Mary/Paul, u and me works). Where is ds test carried out? Wat is d name of d place? Earth, Heaven, Hell, Purgatory or wat?

italo:
Still awaiting the first answer you'll ever give me.

Without that, I will only answer you if/when I feel like.

italo:
The bold is a lie, isnt it?

italo:

Sorry, celibacy is not even a doctrine. We can change it anytime if we want.

And it is not against the Bible.

John the Baptist, Jesus and Paul were celibate.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Obviously, you (like a dying man) are just clutching at any straw you can find.

I warned you not to let us expose JWs.

JMAN05:

Wrong. Your priests can ONLY be priests unless they celibate. true or false?

Was that the requirement to be a priest in the bible?

I gave you a go ahead order to criticise, didnt I? and you are also seeing it yourself that what you post is what we ve changed already, which shows that you have nothing to say.

Again, what you guys teach is satanic in that there is no bible support but human traditions put above God's word.

So far in the other thread, you really have not said anything. If you meet a witness now and tell him, "see what you guys teach", he will just laugh at you cos you are not serious. So say something pls.

italo:

Haha...dying man.

Celibacy is not a doctrine. Celibacy was encouraged and practiced by John the Baptist, Jesus and Paul.

Jesus is the eternal high priest and he was celibate. If celibacy is satanic, you're saying Jesus who you call Angel Michael is satanic.

You fail! You fail!

Moreover, we have married priests so your above statement is false.

You fail, dying man. You fail Jehovah's witness!

JMAN05:

wrong and answer and clearing road to escape. I catch you!!!

You cant become a priest, pope, bishop unless you celibate, yes or no?


Did Paul and Jesus say u no fit become priest unless you celibate?

Dont run oo, keke dey pass for road.

italo:

You can! Dying man, you can!

We have married Priests and have had married Bishops and Popes.

You fail! Dying man, you fail!

JMAN05:

pickin give me example of a serving married priest.

italo:

Drowning man! Stop wasting my time. You fail!

http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/features/ESQ1005PRIESTS_180

There's the story of 5 married Catholic Priests.

Again, you fail!

italo: ^^^

Let me be frank with you, I didnt read that post of yours once I saw that it was long.

There is no point writing a long dubious epistle.

You said we the Catholic Church has only celibate Priests.

I showed you married Priests of the Catholic Church.

You were wrong, drowning man, period!

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God bless you all.

damerry:
First of all, Are you cleared on the subject that the use of images during worship date back to the time of the apostles and that St. Luke was the first person to complete pictures of the holy Mother of God carrying the Child of God in her arms, which He showed to the Holy Virgin for approval, while she was still alive and St. Luke made pictures of the Holy Apostles and bestowed upon the Church this pious and holy tradition of venerating the icons of Christ and His
Saints??

Confusion without any proof..... No Bible backing except historical fables...... Catholics......proof your points from Bible and stop getting angry when somebody ask question about your beliefs.

Secondly, have you firmly believed that the early church had a devotion to mary??

If yes, we can procced to your first question, because if you Don't really believe these minor and clear empirical facts, i don't think you will believe what i and other Catholics have to say concerning your first question.