Joshthefirst: the fact that you still argue like this blindly and some people agree with you is horrifying. If a child is born of rape, raise the child as your own. Its not his fault. His life will testify of the forgiveness and forbearance of God in this sin-ridden world.
It is pathetic that you would even think of killing an innocent to spare you memory.

When God condemns a guilty, you cry "unjust" when God forgives the guilty, you cry "unjust"
And yet you will boldly kill an unborn child. Pathetic.

Let's get this straight. If someone rapes your sister, you'd advise her to keep the child? Even if the rapist had HIV?

aManFromMars:

Let's get this straight. If someone rapes your sister, you'd advise her to keep the child? Even if the rapist had HIV?

this is way different from what he was insinuating.
If the rapist had HIV, then the woman would have it too and there would be a probability of the child having it.
That is different from having a child as a result of molestation and killing the child because of hatred or fear. That is not love.

Joshthefirst: this is way different from what he was insinuating.
If the rapist had HIV, then the woman would have it too and there would be a probability of the child having it.
That is different from having a child as a result of molestation and killing the child because of hatred or fear. That is not love.

Answer the question na. Would your actions be different? Would you consider abortion in this scenario?

Give a straight forward answer for once in your life.

aManFromMars:

Answer the question na. Would your actions be different? Would you consider abortion in this scenario?

Give a straight forward answer for once in your life.

They cant answer Na, fucckking hypocrites they are!

I am sure they think that their sperm is half a child too, so wannkking is killing potential children!

aManFromMars:

Answer the question na. Would your actions be different? Would you consider abortion in this scenario?

Give a straight forward answer for once in your life.

no. I will never consider abortion.

in my opinion, abortion can only be considered if a complication develops in pregnancy that will prove fatal or extremely harmful to the mother.

Joshthefirst: no. I will never consider abortion.

in my opinion, abortion can only be considered if a complication develops in pregnancy that will prove fatal or extremely harmful to the mother.

Funny, your problem with abortion is about taking the life of a 'kid'. But if push comes to shove, you'd save the mother and damn the child. Why not let both go?

So that's how you rationalize it? Did the Bible give space for such 'rationalizations'?

aManFromMars:

Funny, your problem with abortion is about taking the life of a 'kid'. But if push comes to shove, you'd save the mother and damn the child. Why not let both go?

So that's how you rationalize it? Did the Bible give space for such 'rationalizations'?

I'm sorry, but I value human life. I will do my best to save it. That's the God-attitude. That's the real moral standard.

aManFromMars:

Funny, your problem with abortion is about taking the life of a 'kid'. But if push comes to shove, you'd save the mother and damn the child. Why not let both go?

So that's how you rationalize it? Did the Bible give space for such 'rationalizations'?

thou shall not murder.

aManFromMars:

Let's get this straight. If someone rapes your sister, you'd advise her to keep the child? Even if the rapist had HIV?

Yes I would.

God can heal HIV.

aManFromMars:

Funny, your problem with abortion is about taking the life of a 'kid'. But if push comes to shove, you'd save the mother and damn the child. Why not let both go?

So that's how you rationalize it? Did the Bible give space for such 'rationalizations'?

I told you, religion has turned their brain to mush.

The child's existence is harmful to the mother you fuccckkking retardddds!!! JEZUZ FUCKKKING CHRIIST!!! Cant they see that?

I have no love for this zombies. They are disease to humanity. Cant the woman choose not to have the child There are several cases of rapist victims who kept the child only to kill the child having being formed into a human being in their sleep. All i ask is that the people be given a fuckkking choice without you stuuuupiiid people having to ram down some religious bullcrappp into the matter.

They dont care for the person, they care for your stupid old book. I hate religious people, they are virus that must be destroyed!!

aManFromMars:

Funny, your problem with abortion is about taking the life of a 'kid'. But if push comes to shove, you'd save the mother and damn the child. Why not let both go?

Why let two die if one can be saved?

It is easier to save mother, as saving child instead will involve complicated surgery, and the kid may very well still die, since he is very fragile.

aManFromMars: So that's how you rationalize it? Did the Bible give space for such 'rationalizations'?

"Wisdom is the principal thing, therefore get wisdom..." Says the bible

Joshthefirst: the fact that you still argue like this blindly and some people agree with you is horrifying. If a child is born of rape, raise the child as your own. Its not his fault. His life will testify of the forgiveness and forbearance of God in this sin-ridden world.
It is pathetic that you would even think of killing an innocent to spare you memory.

When God condemns a guilty, you cry "unjust" when God forgives the guilty, you cry "unjust"
And yet you will boldly kill an unborn child. Pathetic.

There is a very high probability that if the child should know d circumstances of his birth he might not recover from the trauma.
But you're prepared to take that risk in order to conform to your dogma.
There are hundreds of thousands of orphaned kids in this country, how many have your christian brethren adopted?
Even your pastors with all their wealth, how many orphans have they adopted?
Those are orphans o! Not the child of a man that rap*d their wife!

You can mouth all the values you like, but when it comes to ACTIONS, y'all will be found wanting!

rapture_ready:

Yes I would.

God can heal HIV.

Jesus Christ


some christians are heartless

Secularist:

I told you, religion has turned their brain to mush.

The child's existence is harmful to the mother you fuccckkking retardddds!!! JEZUZ FUCKKKING CHRIIST!!! Cant they see that?

I have no love for this zombies. They are disease to humanity. Cant the woman choose not to have the child There are several cases of rapist victims who kept the child only to kill the child having being formed into a human being in their sleep. All i ask is that the people be given a fuckkking choice without you stuuuupiiid people having to ram down some religious bullcrappp into the matter.

They dont care for the person, they care for your stupid old book. I hate religious people, they are virus that must be destroyed!!

You're beginning to sound like a terrorist!

rapture_ready:

Yes I would.

God can heal HIV.

GET OFF MY THREAD YOU bleeping BASTARDS!!!! MAY YOU AND YOUR GOD PERISH TOGETHER!!!!

Logicboy03:


Jesus Christ


some christians are heartless

Nah.

Truth is, God never allows such things happen to his children (the truly saved).

He spares us such painful experiences.

aManFromMars:

Let's get this straight. If someone rapes your sister, you'd advise her to keep the child? Even if the rapist had HIV?

dude quit beatin around d bush. d que was a man & his raped wife.

david_hume:


There is a very high probability that if the child should know d circumstances of his birth he might not recover from the trauma.
But you're prepared to take that risk in order to conform to your dogma.
There are hundreds of thousands of orphaned kids in this country, how many have your christian brethren adopted?
Even your pastors with all their wealth, how many orphans have they adopted?
Those are orphans o! Not the child of a man that rap*d their wife!

You can mouth all the values you like, but when it comes to ACTIONS, y'all will be found wanting!

God's word and nurturing heals trauma and makes children grow into strong and godly men.

You've branched off now, you're talking now of others and actions and saying I don't act. You don't even know me.

Secularist:

GET OFF MY THREAD YOU bleeping BASTARDS!!!! MAY YOU AND YOUR GOD PERISH TOGETHER!!!!

Hey!

You fellas troll all our threads to post crap.

Bible says;

"Do unto others what you want others to do unto you..."

rapture_ready:

Nah.

Truth is, God never allows such things happen to his children (the truly saved).

He spares us such painful experiences.

now this depends sir.

I believe trouible and bad experiences are sometimes a way God can refine our faith in him

rapture_ready:

You're beginning to sound like a terrorist!

he seems a troubled fellow as you can see. Pressure brings out what's truly in a man sometimes.

In this case, its devlish hatred of God.

Fuckkkkk your bible you stupid stupid person, if you think i am a terrorist then that is what i am. I am going to terrorize you and your offspring's with the truth!! And you should all be very scared about that.

Your god cannot save you from me, your imaginary friend has no bearing here, you watch and see.

Secularist: Fuckkkkk your bible you stupid stupid person, if you think i am a terrorist then that is what i am. I am going to terrorize you and your offspring's with the truth!! And you should all be very scared about that.

Your god cannot save you from me, your imaginary friend has no bearing here, you watch and see.

Seriously ROTFL.

Puny man threatening God!

Don't destroy my poor ribs!

Secularist:
I am sure they think that their sperm is half a child too, so wannkking is killing potential children!

stupidity hurts my eyes wen i c one in display.
sperm & embryo r two different tinz nau. datz common sensE!

Joshthefirst: I'm sorry, but I value human life. I will do my best to save it. That's the God-attitude. That's the real moral standard.

But your God doesn't value human life. Human life is not as important as His Word. So it's your standard, not God's standard. It's the human in you screaming out, not your God.

1 Samuel 15:
2 Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”...

9 But Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep, the oxen, the fatlings, the lambs, and all that was good, and were unwilling to utterly destroy them. But everything despised and worthless, that they utterly destroyed...

10 Now the word of the Lord came to Samuel, saying,
11 “I greatly regret that I have set up Saul as king, for he has turned back from following Me, and has not performed My commandments.” And it grieved Samuel, and he cried out to the Lord all night.

Joshthefirst: thou shall not murder.

But in some situations, it's permissible to murder. God permitted man to murder his Son(who was himself) to save man from sin. Makes sense.

Secularist: Fuckkkkk your bible you stupid stupid person, if you think i am a terrorist then that is what i am. I am going to terrorize you and your offspring's with the truth!! And you should all be very scared about that.

Your god cannot save you from me, your imaginary friend has no bearing here, you watch and see.

from your reactions and cussing on this thread, its obvious you are the one threatened with the truth

rapture_ready:

Yes I would.

God can heal HIV.

GOD HEALS HIV or GOD CAN HEAL HIV?

so the lord destroyed the amalekites,so?!? dem be ya family members.
this same shallow-minded peepz wud want GOD to protect dem frm their enemies oh. d amalekites were enemies to the lord's people besides they weren't doing according to his will!

rapture_ready:

Why let two die if one can be saved?

It is easier to save mother, as saving child[b] instead will involve complicated surgery, and the kid may very well still die[/b], since he is very fragile.



"Wisdom is the principal thing, therefore get wisdom..." Says the bible

So murder the child and save the mother?

aManFromMars:

But your God doesn't value human life. Human life is not as important as His Word. So it's your standard, not God's standard. It's the human in you screaming out, not your God.

1 Samuel 15:
2 Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”...

9 But Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep, the oxen, the fatlings, the lambs, and all that was good, and were unwilling to utterly destroy them. But everything despised and worthless, that they utterly destroyed...

10 Now the word of the Lord came to Samuel, saying,
11 “I greatly regret that I have set up Saul as king, for he has turned back from following Me, and has not performed My commandments.” And it grieved Samuel, and he cried out to the Lord all night.

yet you say I'm the one vomiting the same thing on every thread.

God is a just judge. I'm tired of typing the same thing on every thread so I'll leave it there.

Joshthefirst: God's word and nurturing heals trauma and makes children grow into strong and godly men.

You've branched off now, you're talking now of others and actions and saying I don't act. You don't even know me.

So if this happens to you, are you ABSOLUTELY sure that the child will not be affected by the trauma? Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that your wife, your real children and your family members will not stigmatise the child, even when you're not there to defend him?

And please don't tell me that you'll leave it in the hands of God, because like you've always said God doesn't interfere with free will.
If your wife and children decide to maltreat the child, its according to THEIR free will, hence God is helpless in that situation!

So it ain't just about you!