"Narrated Abu Bakra: During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." - Sahih Bukhari 9:88:219

deborah was a judge in the bible, and a pretty good leader,ellen ruled liberia successfully...we'v had male leaders ever sinc amalgamation..are we succeeding?...abeg stop all these gender stereotypism and face d fact...this is d 21st century!...some of the greatest men have fallen to mere women,yet you say women can't be leaders?...well,wether u agree or not women r rising faster than u think...end of story.

Dr. Arewa:
deborah was a judge in the bible, and a pretty good leader,ellen ruled liberia successfully...we'v had male leaders ever sinc amalgamation..are we succeeding?...abeg stop all these gender stereotypism and face d fact...this is d 21st century!...some of the greatest men have fallen to mere women,yet you say women can't be leaders?...well,wether u agree or not women r rising faster than u think...end of story.

You're getting it all wrong erm dr Arewa. I didn't say women are not fit to be leaders. I'm just asking why muhammad said so.

"Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."

Are you a muslim?

Qur'an 27:22-40
tells a history. A woman ;Queen ruled Sheba. And GOD spoke well of her even though she initially was a pagan. GOD described her as a brillant,moral,democratic and humble ruler. Infact you should get a translated Qur'an to get the gist yourself. She embraced Islam at last, but continued to rule. No where did GOD state that women cannot rule, infact by giving us the story of this great muslim queen and not prohibiting women from leading in any verse on his Scripture, GOD is in essence telling us to women have just equal right to lead as men.

And for your own good,be careful with hadiths, not all of them are authentic.

Damn you usermane. Are you a learner?. Must you impose your phucking crazy ideas quoting Quran like you know whatsup?..Damn!.

Queen sheba ruled when she was a kafir. She embraced islam and married solomon. that was the end of her rule...Sulaiman was the king and she was merely a queen not the ruler
jeez!! yu'll learn only when Munkar and Nakir teach you the hard way!!

usermane: Qur'an 27:22-40
tells a history. A woman ;Queen ruled Sheba. And GOD spoke well of her even though she initially was a pagan. GOD described her as a brillant,moral,democratic and humble ruler. Infact you should get a translated Qur'an to get the gist yourself. She embraced Islam at last, but continued to rule. No where did GOD state that women cannot rule, infact by giving us the story of this great muslim queen and not prohibiting women from leading in any verse on his Scripture, GOD is in essence telling us to women have just equal right to lead as men.

And for your own good,be careful with hadiths, not all of them are authentic.

Are they ever authentic?
I see babylolraroy has answered you (she's a muslim) besides the story from the verse is from pre islamic era and like dr Arewa pointed out, the jews had a lot of women leaders or rulers.

babylolaroy: Damn you usermane. Are you a learner?. Must you impose your phucking crazy ideas quoting Quran like you know whatsup?..Damn!.

Queen sheba ruled when she was a kafir. She embraced islam and married solomon. that was the end of her rule...Sulaiman was the king and she was merely a queen not the ruler
jeez!! yu'll learn only when Munkar and Nakir teach you the hard way!!

So why are women unfit to be rulers?

Paris_Love:


So why are women unfit to be rulers?

thank yu very much and here is why...to d best of my know-how
Women are weaker creation of Allah. whether we take it or leave it, women are not as strong as men. And in the islamic era, there used to be several wars, battles and all that. The leader will lead battles, build fortresses and so many other tedious works a woman cant handle
The woman by nature is delicate and shouldnt lead the whole of a nation. No?...if a woman leads nd has so many males under her, one day dey will rebel against her and be like...obinrin lasan lasan lon pashe funwa...i.e an ordinary woman giving dem orders. someday dey will stop listening because they cant keep being inferior or subjects to a woman
see a more practical example. in a classroom in school where a lady leads a guy, the guy will be furious and be like: a woman! a woman just beat me Hands down?...and he'll wnna buckle up subsequently.
lastly, a rule is a rule and the law giver knows best. If Allah has said ladies shouldnt rule den its for the best

Aamantu billah

There are different views.....i found this interesting article.....below

Question: Can women hold public positions of authority in Islam?

Answer: In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
It is permissible for a woman to be an authority and leader in a position for which she is qualified, although some positions are specific only to men such as the position of prayer leader and supreme commander of the armed forces. Some classical scholars prohibited women from taking positions of authority and leadership based upon the statement of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him: لَنْ يُفْلِحَ قَوْمٌ وَلَّوْا أَمْرَهُمْ امْرَأَةً

A people will not succeed who are commanded by a woman. Source: Sahih Bukhari 4163, Grade: Sahih These scholars understood this statement to be general in meaning and therefore they did not allow women to take any public position of authority. However, other scholars understood this statement to be specific to commanding the armed forces and therefore allowed women to hold the position of judge. Ibn Hajar writes: وَخَالَفَ ابْنُ جَرِيرٍ الطَّبَرِيُّ فَقَالَ يَجُوزُ أَنْ تَقْضِيَ فِيمَا تُقْبَلُ شَهَادَتُهَا فِيهِ وَأَطْلَقَ بَعْضُ الْمَالِكِيَّةِ الْجَوَازَ Ibn Jareer At-Tabari disagreed with those who did not allow women to be judges and he said it is permissible for her to judge in matters in which her testimony is acceptable and some of the Maliki scholars gave them unrestricted permission to do so. Source: Fath ul-Bari Women are generally unqualified to perform the duties involved with commanding the armed forces or leading the ritual prayer, but they are qualified and allowed to perform other duties. In fact, women played a very important role in the development of the early Muslim community. Umar ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, appointed Samrah bint Nuhaik as overseer of the market.

Abu Balj Yahya reported: رَأَيْتُ سَمْرَاءَ بِنْتَ نَهِيكٍ وَكَانَتْ قَدْ أَدْرَكَتِ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلَيْهَا دِرْعٌ غَلِيظٌ وَخِمَارٌ غَلِيظٌ بِيَدِهَا سَوْطٌ تُؤَدِّبُ النَّاسَ وَتَأْمُرُ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَتَنْهَى عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ I saw Samrah bint Nuhaik and she had known the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. She had on a thick corset and veil. In her hand was a whip which she used to discipline people, and she would enjoin good and forbid evil. Source: Al-Mu’jam Al-Kabeer At-Tabarani 785, Grade: Hasan Ibn Abd al-Barr said: أدركت رَسُول اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وعمرت وكانت تمر فِي الأسواق وتأمر بالمعروف وتنهى عَنِ المنكر وتضرب الناس عَلَى ذلك بسوط كَانَ معها She knew the Messenger of Allah during her lifetime. She would patrol the market while enjoining good and forbidding evil. She would discipline people with a whip that she had with her. Source: Al-Isti’ab bil Ma’ruf 3197 Ibn Al-Jawzai said: وكان عمر رضي الله عنه إذا دخل السوق دخل عليها Umar ibn Al-Khattab would enter the market and he would come to her. Source: Seerah Umar ibn Al-Kharrab 41 Women were among some of the most valuable religious scholars for the early Muslims.

Hafsa bint Umar, may Allah be pleased with her, was entrusted by Abu Bakr to safeguard the first complete written copy of the Quran. Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, was one of the leading scholars of prophetic traditions and was considered an authority by the companions of the Prophet. Abu Musa reported: مَا أَشْكَلَ عَلَيْنَا أَصْحَابَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حَدِيثٌ قَطُّ فَسَأَلْنَا عَائِشَةَ إِلَّا وَجَدْنَا عِنْدَهَا مِنْهُ عِلْمًا We never had a new problem occur to us as the companions of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, except that we would ask Aisha and find with her some knowledge concerning it. Source: Sunan At-Tirmidhi 3883, Grade: Sahih Mu’adhah al-Adawiyyah was a narrator of prophetic traditions from the second generation of Islam who related sayings from Ali ibn Abu Talib, Aisha, and Hisham ibn Amir. Amrah bint Abdur Rahman was a student of Aisha from the second generation of Islam who related sayings from Umm Salamah and Rafi ibn Khadeej and was considered a legal scholar in the city of Medina. Hafsa bint Sireen was a student of Umm Atiyyah, Anas ibn Malik, and other companions of the Prophet. She was a legal scholar from the second generation of Islam and one of her students, Qatadah, is an important authority in the exegesis of the Quran. There are many other women who were scholars in the early age of Islam and through the succeeding eras until today. Women played an important role in supporting the Muslim community when they were under attack by the idolaters. Anas ibn Malik reported: كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَغْزُو بِأُمِّ سُلَيْمٍ وَنِسْوَةٍ مَعَهَا مِنْ الْأَنْصَارِ يَسْقِينَ الْمَاءَ وَيُدَاوِينَ الْجَرْحَى The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, would go into battle with Umm Sulaim and other women with her from the Ansar and they would give water and tend to the wounded. Source: Sunan At-Tirmidhi 1575, Grade: Sahih There is no doubt that the support services of women were critical to the defense of Islam. Women have an important role for consulting the Muslim leadership.

The Prophet would consult his wives in the most sensitive matters among the Muslims. On the occasion of Al-Hudaybiyya, the Muslims were denied access to perform the Hajj pilgrimage in Mecca as a condition for the peace treaty. The Prophet accepted this condition but the Muslims were largely upset and refused to leave. In such a difficult matter, the Prophet consulted his wife Umm Salamah about the best course of action. Marwan reported: When the writing of the peace treaty was concluded the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said to his companions: قُومُوا فَانْحَرُوا ثُمَّ احْلِقُوا Get up and offer your sacrifices and shave your heads. None of them stood up and the Prophet repeated his order three times. When none of them stood up, the Prophet left them and went to Umm Salamah and told her about the people’s attitude. Umm Salamah said: يَا نَبِيَّ اللَّهِ أَتُحِبُّ ذَلِكَ اخْرُجْ ثُمَّ لاَ تُكَلِّمْ أَحَدًا مِنْهُمْ كَلِمَةً حَتَّى تَنْحَرَ بُدْنَكَ وَتَدْعُوَ حَالِقَكَ فَيَحْلِقَكَ O prophet of Allah, would you like your order to be carried out? Go out and do not speak to them until you have offered your sacrifice and have called the barber to shave your head. Source: Sahih Bukhari 2731, Grade: Sahih The Prophet followed the advice of his wife and the companions began to make preparations to leave Mecca. This incident is an important precedent for us because it demonstrates the value the Prophet placed on the consultation of his wives and women in general. Allah has commanded consultation among the believers and this is general to both men and women. Allah said: فَاعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لَهُمْ وَشَاوِرْهُمْ فِي الْأَمْرِ So pardon them and ask forgiveness for them and consult them in the matter. Surah Ali Imran 3:159 Women even have the right to correct the Muslim leadership and the leadership has to be humble enough to accept it. In a famous incident, a woman once corrected Umar Ibn Al-Khattab during one of his sermons while he was the Caliph. Umar said: امْرَأَةٌ أَصَابَتْ وَرَجُلٌ أَخْطَأَ The woman is correct and the man is mistaken. Source: Fath ul-Bari


In modern practice, Muslim women perform many roles in society in the fields of religion, politics, science, medicine, education, police, the military, and other important functions. Muslim women provide important contributions to their countries and they should be valued for the services they provide. Therefore, a Muslim woman is allowed to obtain any position of leadership and authority for which she is qualified, although some positions are specific only to men such as commander of the armed forces and prayer leader. Success comes from Allah, and Allah knows best. - See more at: http://www.faithinallah.org/can-women-take-positions-of-leadership-and-authority-in-islam/#sthash.e0DLX74Y.dpuf

babylolaroy:
thank yu very much and here is why...to d best of my know-how
Women are weaker creation of Allah. whether we take it or leave it, women are not as strong as men. And in the islamic era, there used to be several wars, battles and all that. The leader will lead battles, build fortresses and so many other tedious works a woman cant handle

Kings, during medieval times did go to the battlefield but they didn't always fight they mostly stayed in the reserves and planned the battle so fighting during a war wasn't obligatory on rulers.
That couldn't have been the reason why women were prohhibited from ruling.

The woman by nature is delicate and shouldnt lead the whole of a nation. No?...if a woman leads nd has so many males under her, one day dey will rebel against her and be like...obinrin lasan lasan lon pashe funwa...i.e an ordinary woman giving dem orders. someday dey will stop listening because they cant keep being inferior or subjects to a woman
see a more practical example. in a classroom in school where a lady leads a guy, the guy will be furious and be like: a woman! a woman just beat me Hands down?...and he'll wnna buckle up subsequently.
lastly, a rule is a rule and the law giver knows best. If Allah has said ladies shouldnt rule den its for the best
Aamantu billah

Crriiiiinnnggeeeee..........

babylolaroy: Damn you usermane. Are you a learner?. Must you impose your phucking crazy ideas quoting Quran like you know whatsup?..Damn!.

Queen sheba ruled when she was a kafir. She embraced islam and married solomon. that was the end of her rule...Sulaiman was the king and she was merely a queen not the ruler
jeez!! yu'll learn only when Munkar and Nakir teach you the hard way!!

Ok, where did the Qur'an tell us she resigned after embracing Islam? And then point to me a verse that GOD forbid women from ruling. U see, you don't have. Listen, am not here to force anyone to believe me. Am here like you,to tell the truth.

Paris_Love:
Are they ever authentic?
I see babylolraroy has answered you (she's a muslim) besides the story from the verse is from pre islamic era and like dr Arewa pointed out, the jews had a lot of women leaders or rulers.

Did you check the verses i referred you to? The Queen and her people were sun worshippers originally. And who told you babylolraroy is the only muslim here? Islam did begin right from Adam. Don't think it started with the Muhammad. Muhammad 's only duty was delivering the Qur'an.
PEACE.

usermane:

Did you check the verses i referred you to? The Queen and her people were sun worshippers originally. And who told you babylolraroy is the only muslim here? Islam did begin right from Adam. Don't think it started with the Muhammad. Muhammad 's only duty was delivering the Qur'an.
PEACE.

Since when did islam start considering sun worshippers as muslims? Stop disgracing yourself dude.

@dat guy dah talked about leaders leadin wars and not participating. hell no! thats a lie..during the islamic periods, the prophet would lead battles and fight actively in it. so also the caliphs during their reigns. why would dey stay back. they were people ready to b martyred....they wnted to die for Allah

babylolaroy:
thank yu very much and here is why...to d best of my know-how
Women are weaker creation of Allah. whether we take it or leave it, women are not as strong as men. And in the islamic era, there used to be several wars, battles and all that. The leader will lead battles, build fortresses and so many other tedious works a woman cant handle.

Says who? During that era pagan women were leaders in various fields. Salma a former maid of Aisha lead her tribe in battle to fight against muslims aggression. There are many stories of women leading in wars during that time and they were successful as well.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zafar

The woman by nature is delicate and shouldnt lead the whole of a nation. No?...if a woman leads nd has so many males under her, one day dey will rebel against her and be like...obinrin lasan lasan lon pashe funwa...i.e an ordinary woman giving dem orders. someday dey will stop listening because they cant keep being inferior or subjects to a woman

Another silly excuse. Like men are not rebelled against?

see a more practical example. in a classroom in school where a lady leads a guy, the guy will be furious and be like: a woman! a woman just beat me Hands down?...and he'll wnna buckle up subsequently.

A better practical example would be Khadijah the first wife of Muhammad. This woman was a widow; she was wealthy and ran her own successful mercantile business. She employed men to work for her. Muhammad started as her employee. This shows that women, prior to Islam, could own and manage businesses. The men of the Quraish did not think it is degrading to have a woman as boss. So its really disappointing that allah would give in to misogynist natures of few men and declare that women are not fit to be leaders. Is he a misogynist god?

lastly, a rule is a rule and the law giver knows best. If Allah has said ladies shouldnt rule den its for the best

@op
your answer is in: 1st Timothy Chapter 2 verse 12.
"But I permit not a woman to teach.
Nor to have authority over the man.
But to be in silence."

^^LMAO

Some people misunderstand the hadith that Imam Al-Bukhari reports from Abu Bakrah that: "Allah provided me with considerable benefit during the battle of the camel with one word (or one statement). When news reached the prophet (peace be upon him) that the Persians had appointed Chosroe's daughter as their ruler, he said: ''A nation which placed its affairs in the hands of a woman shall never prosper!'' (Al-Bukhari, Al-Jami` as-Sahih, hadith no. 4425)

So, this hadith has a special meaning and an occasion that should be considered when interpreting and understanding its contextual connotation. That hadith signifies that the Prophet (peace be upon him) foretold his Companions that the Persian empire would come to an end.

Some people literally interpret and rely on the above hadith to say that a woman cannot be a leader. However, the fact is that there has never been unanimity on this matter among Muslim scholars, past and present. From the earliest days of Muslim scholarship, even those jurists who implicitly accept the hadith above as containing some injunction have differed on the meaning of ''placing affairs in the hands of a woman''. While some prohibit women from all public duties, others hold the opposite view.

Abu Hanifah, for instance, permits a woman to be a judge in matters in which her testimony is admissible. Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari, as Ibn Hajar reported in his Fat-h al-Bari, does not only support the unrestricted appointment of women to judgeship, he permitted also her appointment as Head of State. A similar view is reported from Imam Malik Ibn Anas and adopted by some Maliki jurists (although the popular view in the madhab, juristic shool, is contrary to this).

Given the above, it becomes evident that a qualified woman may be elected or appointed in any leading position in the Muslim community or state. She could be a head of a government, a university, a company, etc. A qualified woman can be a minister, an MP, a lecturer, a teacher, a doctor, community leader, etc. The position of the Caliph, which is non-existent nowadays, is debated by scholars owing to the tough responsibilities and heavy burdens that early Muslim caliphs used to shoulder, among which leading people in congregational prayers and delivering Friday sermons which are peculiar to men. However, many Muslim scholars see that a woman can hold any public position if she is well-qualified to. What matters, then, is promoting people’s public interests and adherence to the dictates of Shari`ah.

Source

everybody attacking muslims about women but islam is the only religion and system that liberated women, the so called advanced western countries only pay lip service to women liberation, a woman has not ruled america, isreal, russia etc so why attacking islam.
if you don't know please ask any sincere and knowledgable muslim scholar,
the highest authority over any man or woman apart from ALLAH then Messenger of ALLAH (S.A.W) then Amirul Mu'mineen is the mother, i am not patronizing anyone here, even the Amirul mu'mineen must obey his mother if she commands what is just, just a tip, i can't start listing the privileges islam has given to women, WALLAHI

WALLAHI no muslim man or woman will achieve salvation if they refuse to make peace with their mother, in cases where the interest of the mother and father clashes and that of the mother is not an evil interest, preference will be given to the mother over the father.

ask me for evidence for my claims and i will supply

Jazakallahu khairan!!! to all who have contributed well. Well said.

babakb:
everybody attacking muslims about women but islam is the only religion and system that liberated women, the so called advanced western countries only pay lip service to women liberation, a woman has not ruled america, isreal, russia etc so why attacking islam.
if you don't know please ask any sincere and knowledgable muslim scholar,
the highest authority over any man or woman apart from ALLAH then Messenger of ALLAH (S.A.W) then Amirul Mu'mineen is the mother, i am not patronizing anyone here, even the Amirul mu'mineen must obey his mother if she commands what is just, just a tip, i can't start listing the privileges islam has given to women, WALLAHI

Jazakallahu khairan! Well said.U too korrect joor!

Women are fit to b leaders in all spheres of life except perhaps......d muslems due to dier religion & doctorine

babylolaroy you are too much. GBam

In fact, I have been thinking of dethroning Queen Elizabeth of British empire. The whole kingdom or 'queendom' is against Allah guide for humanity.

[quote
author=usermane]Qur'an 27:22-40
tells a history. A woman ;Queen ruled Sheba. And GOD spoke well of her
even though she initially was a pagan. GOD described her as a
brillant,moral,democratic and humble ruler. Infact you should get a
translated Qur'an to get the gist yourself. She embraced Islam at last,
but continued to rule. No where did GOD state that women cannot rule,
infact by giving us the story of this great muslim queen and not
prohibiting women from leading in any verse on his Scripture, GOD is in
essence telling us to women have just equal right to lead as men.

And for your own good,be careful with hadiths, not all of them are
authentic.[/quote]

i wish i was previleged to meet "muslims" like you who dont know what there religion is all about. JAHILI KAWAI

So many contradicting and confusing answers here.
*Women are fit to be leaders, cause Solomon's wife who's not a muslim is the queen.
*Women are not fit to be leaders cause men would be jealous and rebel against her. Giving allah no other choice than to give in to their misogynist nature
*Scholars themselves are confused on the matter. A quick look at saudi will tell where they stand. Women are not even allowed to vote let alone contest for position of authority.
And so others like it

It's quite confusing.

Paris_Love: ...It's quite confusing.

like I said, just read 1st Timothy Chapter 2
verse 12 it'll all be clear to you.

Paris_Love: "Narrated Abu Bakra: During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." - Sahih Bukhari 9:88:219

Aisha the wife of the prophet led a war against Ali (or is anyone more muslim than the wife of the prophet?? )..

the op hadith is one of many reasons why i dont accept any hadith without suspicion cos most of them are just fabricated for one thing alone (modernized slavery)