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Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian: 2 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 9:06pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian: 7 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by gbanikiti(m): 9:10pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
With all the definitions of corruption and your explanations, what's the main purpose of this thread,to tell us that she isn't corrupt eh,Ifeanyi? 1 Like |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by biafranqueen: 9:25pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Great write up, I have zero tolerance for corruption and your definition shows clearly that maybe protocol was not followed in all directions but did she buy those cars for her personal usage, clearly that is not the case. The way the media started bombarding us with stories even to a point of saying no cars were delivered I started to feel like she was a disappointment, we do see clearly the transformation, and I have yet to trust any Politician in not just Nigeria but in America where the lobbyist and special interest groups use back doors to bribe American leaders. The point being if she made a mistake she should admit it correct it and continue to with doing a good job. People calling for her to be sacked are enemies of Nigeria's progress or they don't use the airports,so they don't know that Change is really happening. Thank you for your time to write this up! 4 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Corruption is Purchasing Cars at Prices far over and above the Market Price...in Nigeria here,that usually means the Supplier and the Government Official involved have a "Kickback" Agreement. Corruption is Purchasing Obscene Luxuries at a Time when the Government(which she is part of) is claiming to be strapped for cash;so much so,that its left the Nation's "future Leaders" high and dry on the Streets..if that's not Dishonesty,then I don't know what is. Corruption is purchasing Vehicles whose categorical physical whereabouts cannot be ascertained,Vehicles that have never been presented for registration,which means they have never been driven on Nigeria's Roads,so to what Purpose were they Purchased? Tell me please. 4 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by atlwireles: 9:38pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
koonbey: Corruption is Purchasing Cars at Prices far over and above the Market Price...in Nigeria here,that usually means the Supplier and the Government Official involved have a "Kickback" Agreement. IN WHAT PLANET ARE THE ABOVE CORRUPTION 3 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Assuming for the sake of argument, that the vehicles were not budgeted for or that certain due process was not followed, does that now amount to corruption? In my opinion, it simply means rules or the law was not followed,ie illegality. Illegality is not the same as corruption. It is illegal to drive against traffic on one-way but that does not mean corruption. Moreover, laws are meant for man and not man for the law. This guy is a huge joke. So your employer is running government of illegalities? When you break a law, you shouldn't be punished? Of course because laws are made for man and should be broken at will! 2 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by superstar1(m): 9:42pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
atlwireles: In planet Biafra, it is not corruption, it is called "doing a good work". Bunch of jokers. 9 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
biafranqueen: Great write up, I have zero tolerance for corruption and your definition shows clearly that maybe protocol was not followed in all directions but did she buy those cars for her personal usage, clearly that is not the case. The way the media started bombarding us with stories even to a point of saying no cars were delivered I started to feel like she was a disappointment, we do see clearly the transformation, and I have yet to trust any Politician in not just Nigeria but in America where the lobbyist and special interest groups use back doors to bribe American leaders. The point being if she made a mistake she should admit it correct it and continue to with doing a good job. People calling for her to be sacked are enemies of Nigeria's progress or they don't use the airports,so they don't know that Chang is really happening. Thank you for your time to write this up!What is happening is a massive propaganda and ALUU-4 mentality. It is operation tag the minister of aviation with "corruption" and lynch her From that definition, it is very clear that even electoral manipulation is corruption. Only last week, it was alleged that Oshiomole shamelessly rigged the local council by-election but the media and all the emergency and brown-envelop anti-corruption activists turned deaf ears. Are these elements trying lynch Oduah not aware that electoral manipulation is the very worst form of corruption? 3 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 9:46pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
atlwireles:Ode. Read,I know its daunting..just try.mtcheew. 1 Like |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Wallie(m): 9:46pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
What is corruption and/or misappropriation? Textbook definitions only set the boundaries and do not purport to define every instance of corruption and/or misappropriation. |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Bliss4Lyfe(f): 9:49pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
OP has writen a masterpiece. Absolutely correct and reflects my take on the media frenzy. I find each time that i ask the question of wat exactly Stella has done to be corrupt, is met with either silence or name calling. It is a know fact that the vechiles where purchased by the Aviation Ministry for their aviation operation. Is it necessary, well only the aviation minister can answer. Let us not forget that attempts where made on the life of Dora Akunyili the former minister. Let us not forget that Boko Haram is a serious security threat. With all the insecurity, Stella is right to take wateva precaution she deem appropriate to safe guard her life. Particularly with the level of reforms that are currently being carried out in the aviation sector that the cabals are not too happy about. Just about every operation in the aviation sector is privately owned by associates of past regimes. 6 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by superstar1(m): 9:51pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian: You are very funny. If indeed she is being witch hunted by her seen and unseen enemies. She also robbed petrol on her body, thereby aiding the known and unknown enemies. Honour is taking responsibility for your action. She should take responsibility for her irresponsibility. |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 9:56pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
koonbey: Corruption is Purchasing Cars at Prices far over and above the Market Price...in Nigeria here,that usually means the Supplier and the Government Official involved have a "Kickback" Agreement.All that you wrote are mere wishful thinking and baseless. Till date, no one has shown that those vehicles can be purchased at a cheaper price. The kick-back allegation is baseless because all the vehicles were bought under a lease arrangement with First Bank and payment will be spread over 36 months. Who told you the whereabout of the vehicle is unknown? It seems you've been reading too much poo from Tinubu's newspapers. The NCAA has stated categorically that the armoured cars are in their pool of vehicles. Losers are just struggling to label the minister of aviation as corrupt and lynch her. She is not a saint either but whatever administrative lapses she may be guilty of does not warrant these magnitude of attacks and onslaught. 4 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by superstar1(m): 10:08pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Bliss4Lyfe: OP has writen a masterpiece. Absolutely correct and reflects my take on the media frenzy. If buying 2cars for 255m is not offensive to the sense of alaigbo people, then it clearly shows something is wrong with the psyche of people from that land. Is she Chief of Army Staff, or Chief of General Staff or DG of NAFDAC or NSA that she is under threat. Was any report made to police or DSS. Where is the threat coming from. Is it from.her family members or the husbands she dumped or her aristos. We knew Dora's threat was coming from fake drug sellers from ndigbo. Where is her coming from. Phantom security threat to steal money How many armoured car did Dora had to buy or is her work more hazardous than Dora's work. Abeg let us hear world. If alaigbo refuse to see corruption. The whole world is not blind the way they are. |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 10:16pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian:You really believe because the Payments are Spread,financed by a Bank,and whatnot...they can't take Kickbacks?... I don't think so Nobody has been able to prove those Cars could have been gotten for less than 250+ million Dollars?Enter Google. I stand by my Statement that said Vehicles have no known whereabouts,and I will do so until I see Evidence to the contrary. I get my Information from SaharaReporters,if you consider their Journalism Ish,kindly recommend a better news Channel. BTW Sir,you skipped my middle Point,I'm sure it was an Oversight tho. |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Femolacaster(m): 10:21pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
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Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
superstar1:I will be suprised if the current DG of NAFDAC does not have an armoured car. You and I heard about that of NCAA and ministry of aviation because certain documents were leaked. Even your governor, BRF, was alleged to have bought 3 armoured cars at N600 million. So why are you not bothered about that? How many threads have you created to ask questions about the alleged armoured cars bought by BRF? What about state governors that bought private jets from their state's share of Abuja monthly oil revenue bazzar? If the argument was that buying 2 vehicles at that amount was insensitive, then I can relate to that. But the attempt to lynch Oduah and tag her with corruption by the same EVIL elements and haters of the president is DEAD ON ARRIVAL 3 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by JMOI: 10:40pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
The stories about Oduah in the media are part of a propaganda by enemies of the GEJ administration and those who are envious and jealous of Igbos; you know who I'm talking about. 2 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 10:42pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
koonbey:The price of the vehicles cannot be gotten directly from google. That is what the experts say. ChannelsTV interview with an expert in security vehicles revealed that the prices of armoured vehicles ranges from N40 million to over a N100 million each, depending on the fittings. You stand by your statement? Are you NCAA that owns the vehicles? That is the problem. You can stand by it because it suits your sentimental and jaundiced thoughts. Anyway, that is your business. 2 Likes |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by takedat(m): 10:47pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 10:51pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
JMOI: The stories about Oduah in the media are part of a propaganda by enemies of the GEJ administration and those who are envious and jealous of Igbos; you know who I'm talking about.oh puhleeease,not again...Politicians from all Tribes keep "chopping our Money" ,now we've caught this one and Sir,we're not letting go...as it was for Etteh,as it was for Tafa,as it was for Farouk...so shall it be for Oduah. Even if she doesnt resign or is sacked,it will caution the others...for a while at least... As for being Haters,I dont know about others,but Corruption has the same bitter Taste in my Mouth,irrespective of Tribe. |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by superstar1(m): 10:54pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian: Oga, you used the world alleged and you want me to be wasting my time on allegation. The onus lies on the source of the allegation to prove it. Once is proven with clear facts and figures as seen in the case of Stella "steal" oduagate, Fashola will be a goner. Tell your propaganda machine - the sun newspaper- to do their investigative journalism on it and stop being a massob megaphone. Your ethnic card can never work. Stella is. A shame to motherhood and a disgrace to alaigbo . Cest fini. |
Re: Armoured Car Controversy: What Is Your Definition Of Corruption? by Nobody: 11:04pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Sincere 9gerian:no Sir,I stand by it because,i got the Information from a Source I consider Reliable,they have been consistently accurate on other Aspects of the Saga,so its not much of a Leap of Faith to believe that Aspect. As for the Price of the Vehicles,between 40-over 100 Million Dollars abi,and she just had to go and buy the highest priced Range...what on earth does a Minister need such Vehicles for? I'm sure that would not make her reduce the Number of auxiliary Vehicles in her Convoy,likewise the heavy Police Escort I'm sure she uses... Also,dont forget that there were Reports that she also bought some SUVs and stretch LIMOs |
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