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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by lynk106: 4:17am On Nov 23, 2013
Lilimax:


Why not leave yourself the way God created you undecided.
When He made you, there was no mistake and he called you BEAUTIFUL wink!

so if you were born without legs and you have an opportunity to go for surgery to get legs, you will refuse it?

What a transgendered person does is really none of anyone's business. Why should she be jailed because of that?
so everyone who has surgery should now be jailed because they are altering "God's creation"?

All these stupid arguments/laws in the name of "God" or "religion" is what is keeping us backwards. What next, we turn into a sharia state? ban alcohol and jail people for drinking alcohol or smoking?

also, should women start getting jailed for using relaxers and bleaching creams? for altering their God given appearance?

holier-than-thou folks annoy me.

What we need is education. To learn more about what transgendered means. I am lucky to have met transgendered persons before and I can understand why they go for surgery. It's like being a woman and stuck in a man's body.Or being a man and stuck in a woman's body. It's a medical condition and has to do with hormones. I know all you religious folks will start talking about demons and deliverance. but we are not in stone age guys. burning of witches and all these"demon" talk is so 13th century. we are in 2013 for christsake (pun unintended).

a child born with birth defects for example is a medical condition in developed part of the world. in naija, it becomes a religious/demonic/sin issue. na wa

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by GeneralJ(m): 4:36am On Nov 23, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgH_WmRa7Cw this is the "beautiful" sahahar, God forbid, dirty person
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by lynk106: 4:42am On Nov 23, 2013
GeneralJ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgH_WmRa7Cw this is the "beautiful" sahahar, God forbid, dirty person

this woman below is also a ugly dirty person, right? There are all different kinds of people in the world.Just because you don't have the empathy or knowledge to understand their situation doesn't mean you should make them targets for condemnation and persecution. Miss sahara is beautiful to me.
[img]http://wefly2.files./2013/06/missiowa13.jpg?w=200&h=300[/img]

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by GeneralJ(m): 5:03am On Nov 23, 2013
lynk106:

this woman below is also a ugly dirty person, right? There are all different kinds of people in the world.Just because you don't have the empathy or knowledge to understand their situation doesn't mean you should make them targets for condemnation and persecution. Miss sahara is beautiful to me.
[img]http://wefly2.files./2013/06/missiowa13.jpg?w=200&h=300[/img]
Two differnt situations here, one person lost an arm, another one is spending money to be what God did not create it to be..
if it is beautiful to you go and get married to it, does not concern me, everyone with ehtier own opinion, let me be, my opinion is not bothering your life is it, i'm not going to try and change your opinion, so don't try and change mines.

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by lynk106: 5:06am On Nov 23, 2013
GeneralJ:
Two differnt situations here, one person lost an arm, another one is spending money to be what God did not create it to be..
if it is beautiful to you go and get married to it, does not concern me, everyone with ehtier own opinion, let me be, my opinion is not bothering your life is it, i'm not going to try and change your opinion, so don't try and change mines.

I said "born without an arm"
don't try to twist my words. God creates children with birth defects. right?
Also ever heard of co-joined twins? If such were born in naija, they would have been killed and accused of being demons.
Nigeria,most religious place in d world, yet the most backward. Ignorance is NOT bliss.

like I said, I've personally met and interacted with transgendered people so I can understand them. you are a male. Imagine yourself born as a woman with breasts etc.but mentally, you are 100% male. It's a horrific reality caused by hormonal abnormalities at birth.

It no longer is "just an opinion" when it results in people being jailed,killed or persecuted. Everyone is free to their opinion but acting on your hatred towards people for being different is BARBARIC. Read the post. She was jailed for being transgendered. and you were supporting her persecution in your post.

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by lynk106: 5:15am On Nov 23, 2013
Nick Vujicic.A famous motivation speaker in USA.
born without limbs
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by GeneralJ(m): 6:27am On Nov 23, 2013
lynk106:

I said "born without an arm"
don't try to twist my words. God creates children with birth defects. right?
Also ever heard of co-joined twins? If such were born in naija, they would have been killed and accused of being demons.
Nigeria,most religious place in d world, yet the most backward. Ignorance is NOT bliss.

like I said, I've personally met and interacted with transgendered people so I can understand them. you are a male. Imagine yourself born as a woman with breasts etc.but mentally, you are 100% male. It's a horrific reality caused by hormonal abnormalities at birth.

It no longer is "just an opinion" when it results in people being jailed,killed or persecuted. Everyone is free to their opinion but acting on your hatred towards people for being different is BARBARIC. Read the post. She was jailed for being transgendered. and you were supporting her persecution in your post.
First of, in your first post you said nothing about her arm
second: you are contradicting yourself, the people you keep posting on here lack physical body parts, they were born without body parts, due to birth defects, this has nothing to do with thier mental state. Now, these things(transgenders) on the other hand, you claim have mental defects. Which trust me i believe, but it has nothing to do with birth, there is no such thing as a man was born the wrong way and is supposed to be a woman, that some bull.shit...These are all signs of the endtimes. I do not hate people, i just don't understand why somebody would want to leave a lifestyle like this. I do not support for her persecution, but this is just not right, humans were not created like this, God did not create men to change to women, if he wanted he would have created this person as a woman.
God has a purpose for everyone in life.
Ok, Nick Vujicic, the man you posted, is a huge preacher and motivational speaker in America, trust me i know him, i've heard a lot of his speeches, he has saved many lives, he has helped many people. Now, just think, if he was born with arms, do you think the many people he has helped, and people who realized that live is worth living, if he was born with arms, do you think he would be able to save this people, or help these people.
Same goes for this person here, they were born as a male for a reason, if he had stayed a male, he might have had a major significant purpose in life.But now, it just goes down as one of those statistic, a sign of the End times, a sign that we must get closer to GOD.

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by drnairalov: 8:11am On Nov 23, 2013
Uyi Iredia:

Big lie ! Nice tïts there BTW.

its not a lie bruh...tho not 2 fine here, but have dis maybe u wud believe nau

Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by zomoears(m): 8:21am On Nov 23, 2013
Sahara, formerly Clifford Oche, was never jailed anywhere in Nigeria. He lived freely n spread his "gospel" wtout hinderance.To claim dat he was once detained for being gay is a lie from the pit of hell. He is someone I know very well in Abuja, he schooled n Benue State University n lived in Abuja freely before jetting out to UK. Make d guy no cover una eye wt lies!His sexuality is not for me to judge, but to claim to have been jailed for being gay! Kai, Clifford, do not condescend just to earn points.

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by jhubril(m): 8:23am On Nov 23, 2013
Our society has continued to accentuate its internal inadequacy which is evident in its oppressive judgement against wrong gendered people.Feminine looking men or men with feminine features(eyes,body etc.) are considered less desirable.They continue to wallow in self-hate which leads to depression and eventually suicide.
If someone like Nigeria's former president Yar'adua could rise to fame irrespective of his crass feminine look,then we should stop killing potentials inherent in those guys.We have to be tactful towards them.Now to the girls:If you hate then stop looking at them.You damn have no idea of what your offspring are gonna look like.
NIGERIANS let us imbibe the culture of tollerance and mutual respect.

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by RestroFlamez(m): 8:55am On Nov 23, 2013
Colour_Tv: Kill them!
Butcher them!!
Lynch them!!!
Behead them!!!
They are not human beings!!!
and u be woman ... Ok fine let's go back to d days when women were mens slave ,
Let's beat em
Rape em
Humiliate them,
Behaed them....









. Biitch

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Reptyle(m): 9:28am On Nov 23, 2013
zomoears: Sahara, formerly Clifford Oche, was never jailed anywhere in Nigeria. He lived freely n spread his "gospel" wtout hinderance.To claim dat he was once detained for being gay is a lie from the pit of hell. He is someone I know very well in Abuja, he schooled n Benue State University n lived in Abuja freely before jetting out to UK. Make d guy no cover una eye wt lies!His sexuality is not for me to judge, but to claim to have been jailed for being gay! Kai, Clifford, do not condescend just to earn points.

I was just going to mention that part of his write up. All these gay guys go abroad and tell tales of persecution, been put in jail etc, just to get asylum.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by affyong: 9:40am On Nov 23, 2013
GSKing: Well, I'm very happy for her... if other #LGBTQ can also have the courage to live their lives irrespective of the label, then suicide will be reduced to its barest minimum, especially in homophobic countries in Africa...
being gay isn't natural pack out of Africa n go and do U̶̲̥̅̊я crap! The "gal" is lying which prison n which state was she arrested n sent to jail? Abeg I don't belive her , she should just hide herself
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by affyong: 9:50am On Nov 23, 2013
zomoears: Sahara, formerly Clifford Oche, was never jailed anywhere in Nigeria. He lived freely n spread his "gospel" wtout hinderance.To claim dat he was once detained for being gay is a lie from the pit of hell. He is someone I know very well in Abuja, he schooled n Benue State University n lived in Abuja freely before jetting out to UK. Make d guy no cover una eye wt lies!His sexuality is not for me to judge, but to claim to have been jailed for being gay! Kai, Clifford, do not condescend just to earn points.
I smellet a stinky rat some where! Finally the real story! Na wah wat will pple not do be famous or get asylum? God deliver us!
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by GSKing: 9:52am On Nov 23, 2013
affyong: being gay isn't natural pack out of Africa n go and do U̶̲̥̅̊я crap! The "gal" is lying which prison n which state was she arrested n sent to jail? Abeg I don't belive her , she should just hide herself
affyong: I smellet a stinky rat some where! Finally the real story! Na wah wat will pple not do be famous or get asylum? God deliver us!
I was here. I saw these posts.grin
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Nobody: 9:57am On Nov 23, 2013
zomoears: Sahara, formerly Clifford Oche, was never jailed anywhere in Nigeria. He lived freely n spread his "gospel" wtout hinderance.To claim dat he was once detained for being gay is a lie from the pit of hell. He is someone I know very well in Abuja, he schooled n Benue State University n lived in Abuja freely before jetting out to UK. Make d guy no cover una eye wt lies!His sexuality is not for me to judge, but to claim to have been jailed for being gay! Kai, Clifford, do not condescend just to earn points.
really? why not show us a pix of u both together when she was male. since you guys were so close and you knew everything about her.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Nobody: 10:57am On Nov 23, 2013
Wannna fuuckkkk him/her; hes/shes sexyyy

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by sweetgala(m): 11:22am On Nov 23, 2013
Colour_Tv: Kill them!
Butcher them!!
Lynch them!!!
Behead them!!!
They are not human beings!!!

You and your supporters are insane.
Nigerians and Nigeria can't move forward with people like you existing. I call for your decimation.

Like the Yoruba say " if you don't like me ask me to leave your presence but why ask me to leave the world"
Repent from your evil ways, I'm sure you'll be in church on Sunday with your clandestine thoughts thinking God loves you. What a pity.

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by warrior101: 12:02pm On Nov 23, 2013
tpia@:
What women can do, men can do better, lord have mercy.

You and trannies sef Na wah
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Christmasdon(m): 2:08pm On Nov 23, 2013
Does it mean she had a peni5. Please answer me.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Nobody: 3:03pm On Nov 23, 2013
Christmasdon: Does it mean she had a peni5. Please answer me.
yes 'had'
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Stlatyv(m): 3:40pm On Nov 23, 2013
stoned:
some women are with no womb, some with two wombs and some women cant menstrate so does that make them men? anyway she is happy thats all
aw dos wat u'v jst said make sense at al,is dat wat they tel u wen brainwashn u? A woman wit no womb or dont mestrate has bin destined neva to gyv birth,aw can u den compare dat to a man who is capable of impregnatin a woman nw insanely turn himself to anoda man fucka. Madnes is at it peak.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Stlatyv(m): 3:41pm On Nov 23, 2013
stoned:
some women are with no womb, some with two wombs and some women cant menstrate so does that make them men? anyway she is happy thats all
aw dos wat u'v jst said make sense at al,is dat wat they tel u wen brainwashn u? A woman wit no womb or dont mestrate has bin destined neva to gyv birth,aw can u den compare dat to a man who is capable of impregnatin a woman nw insanely turn himself to anoda man fucka. Madnes is at it peak.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Stlatyv(m): 3:44pm On Nov 23, 2013
sweet_gala:

You and your supporters are insane.
Nigerians and Nigeria can't move forward with people like you existing. I call for your decimation.

Like the Yoruba say " if you don't like me ask me to leave your presence but why ask me to leave the world"
Repent from your evil ways, I'm sure you'll be in church on Sunday with your clandestine thoughts thinking God loves you. What a pity.
na u wey dey Bleep anoda man lyk u God luv ba. Find ur ohm,u dont belong to nigeria. Spit
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by GSKing: 3:51pm On Nov 23, 2013
Even people that can't spell correctly and those that can't construct a simple sentence are all commenting and condemning..!
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by soulglo: 4:42pm On Nov 23, 2013
GeneralJ:
First of, in your first post you said nothing about her arm
second: you are contradicting yourself, the people you keep posting on here lack physical body parts, they were born without body parts, due to birth defects, this has nothing to do with thier mental state. Now, these things(transgenders) on the other hand, you claim have mental defects. Which trust me i believe, but it has nothing to do with birth, there is no such thing as a man was born the wrong way and is supposed to be a woman, that some bull.shit...These are all signs of the endtimes. I do not hate people, i just don't understand why somebody would want to leave a lifestyle like this. I do not support for her persecution, but this is just not right, humans were not created like this, God did not create men to change to women, if he wanted he would have created this person as a woman.
God has a purpose for everyone in life.
Ok, Nick Vujicic, the man you posted, is a huge preacher and motivational speaker in America, trust me i know him, i've heard a lot of his speeches, he has saved many lives, he has helped many people. Now, just think, if he was born with arms, do you think the many people he has helped, and people who realized that live is worth living, if he was born with arms, do you think he would be able to save this people, or help these people.
Same goes for this person here, they were born as a male for a reason, if he had stayed a male, he might have had a major significant purpose in life.But now, it just goes down as one of those statistic, a sign of the End times, a sign that we must get closer to GOD.


So your logic is that the only defects we should accept are those that are physical. I am just laughing. This is a classic example of why I say it is far easier to be ignorant. Who is born male? Is someone male because you see a penis? Your logic is just mind boggling. So in your opinion all birth defects are physical. If you do not see it then it must not be? Please leave God out of your ignoranc and hate. Hate and God cannot stand together. It is the same God that created Nick Vugicic without arms that created transgenders.

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Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Akalia(m): 5:38pm On Nov 23, 2013
Bottom line is that the world is confused,people can't tell what's right and what's wrong anymore. LGTB individuals and their advocates are all nature anomalies.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by GSKing: 5:52pm On Nov 23, 2013
Akalia: Bottom line is that the world is confused,people can't tell what's right and what's wrong anymore. LGTB individuals and their advocates are all nature anomalies.
Spoken like a true cave man!
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by beryl04(m): 9:22pm On Nov 23, 2013
GSKing:
Spoken like a true cave man!


And I concur! Ignorance has got to its peak on this thread and u wonder why the country is in a mess.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Nobody: 1:34am On Nov 24, 2013
My concern is that transgendered are more likely to work as prostitutes or join the porn industry, it could be because of discrimination or to get quick money to pay for 'illegal' gender reassigmemt/ hormone therapy. Then you have those that even though they identify as the opposite sex still keep reproductive organs of the opposite sex because its their own novel sexual attraction. Clifford is not the first person with gender identity crisis in Nigeria but I really do doubt he was jailed cos of that, he probably got beat up by others in uni or in town when he dressed like a woman and addressed people as woman . It's easy to see how people would react to him like that
I still remember a transgendered person I met once in Ife, I came for an event at Guesthouse and I was unwell so I stepped outside to take medicine only to notice a girl who looked strange cos she was in a really bad wig make-up was like she was trying to hard, miniskirt and other fake stuff and each male guest that glanced at her she would race after him.. Pain no gree me see road so I just took my medicine and turned away only for my friend to come out say hi to him like you go greet man. When I heard his story - nne dat student suffered in University no be small especially since he stayed in boys hostel.

This transgender thing I think is more psychological than them being born that way, there are people who reverted back to the gender they started, I still remember reading about a British man in UK papers this 2013 that did that.
If Clifford got asylum by claiming discrimination etc well na her luck - but either way I don't think Nigeria has any provision for hormone therapy or gender reassignment so he would have had to leave Nigeria to do this anyway.

Tolerance is key - life is hard anyways it definitely isn't easier for the transgendered

PS - She can't SING no talent in that area.
Re: Transgender Nigerian Claims She Was Jailed For Being Gay by Nobody: 10:00pm On Nov 25, 2013
Ouch. I missed the show.

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