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A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 6:47pm On Dec 08, 2013

[size=16pt]WELCOME ADDRESS[/size]

I want to welcome everyone to the first ever e-discussion on the subject of tithing. This discussion was borne from my own personal desire to see tithes discussion transcends debates and enter into a more beneficial and intellectual discuss. The idea was first muted on this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1540233/inviting-tithers-theological-discuss-miwerds and by the time the thread was reaching its 10th page we had a number of people who had graciously lent themselves to discuss the tithe matter. Mark Miwerds and Candour shall be discussing on why Christians should not tithe today. On the other side Image123 and Rhymeyjohn shall be explaining to us why it is needful for Christians to tithe today.

The two groups are well prepared and shall be making their presentations in a matter of moment. We have made it clear that this is not a debate but a discussion, so that there shall be no winner nor looser. We trust God that the gain of this discuss will be people visiting this thread in the years to come to gain understanding on the whole matter of tithing. So that he that wishes to tithe still will continue to do so; and he that doesn’t will not feel condemened but will base his practice on sound scriptural positions as will be discussed.

The thread shall open for our participants as they present the points they will be discussing in one post with their scriptural references. On that post I request that our participants make a brief introduction of the subject to be discussed and extend a hand of sportsmanship to their “opponents” with the desire for cordiality and love that must form the foundation on which the discuss shall stand. This post, remember, is to be brief.

We trust God that as you sit back and enjoy the discuss, you will solidly be blessed.

Thank you for joining us.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 6:48pm On Dec 08, 2013

[size=16pt]Rules, Regulations and Format of Presentation for the Participants:[/size]

1. During the discussion there shall be no insults, name calling, maligning, critic of churches or ministers, or any intentional bid to make an opponent look bad. The discuss shall be done with the utmost respect of each person involved - conveying the Christian spirit of love. If anyone feels insulted, he shall be reporting the matter to the moderator; who holds the right to call the other person to order. If this is repeated by the same individual who does not take to correction, the discuss shall be suspended to allow for a replacement of that person.

When someone has been proven to have insulted another, he will be required to make an unreserved apology to the other party. The term of replacing a participants will be when he refuses to make this apology.

2. So as to avoid time wastage, posters will be required to state when they will be making their presentations; and if there arise some unforseen circumstance, they should inform the house about it.

3. Let us keep the aim of the discuss at heart: it is not to win an argument but to present the facts that are behind our position on "tithing" or "not tithing".

4. Both sides in one post shall be presenting 10 points each on thier position on tithing. Each point shall be named after the lead discussants on each side. Thus for Rhymeyjohn, his points shall be listed: R1, R2, R3,...., R10. Miwerds, his points will be M1, M2, M3,...., M10. Here is an example for the post by Rhymey

Example:

R1: Tithe is an Eternal Principle (Heb 20:20; Mark 24:2; ....)

R2: Tithe is compulsory (John 25:1; Ezekiel 60:70;....)

Then Miwerds shall make his own presentation in one post M1,...; along with their scriptural positions.

This is neccesary so that we do not repeat points already discussed. Also, if in the procees of discussing point R2, point R7 had been trashed out, by the time you get to point R7, the two groups could agree to skip it.

When a group makes a presentation and the four steps of response is exhausted, the other group will make their own presentation. So for this discuss, I suggest that Ryhmejohn presents his R1 first; to be followed by Miwerds M1; and the discuss will continue in that manner.

5. Presentation will be in this format

a. Presenting a point, say R1 by Ryhmey, titled Presenting R1. When you are done with your presentation, you should state "end"

b. A rebuttal of R1 by Miwerd/Candour titled Rebutting R1.

c. Then a Response to Rebuttal by Rhymey, titled Response to Rebuttal R1.

d. Then a response to response by Miwerds/Candour titled Response to Response R1.

This way each post on the discuss has a name and can be refered to easily later if there is a need to do so. Also, after a point has been trashed out in this four steps outlined above, it should not be revisited again. Not that the point cannot be mentioned in a latter discuss, but that this particular discuss will be considered finished at this point and there will be no need to refer to it again. This is to discourage un-ending hammering of a point. Therefore participants are expected to do a thorough work in the two opportunities they have to present on a point.

6. Time must be permitted for each group to make their presentations. If anyone is handicapped and cannot make his/her presentation as quickly as possible, he/she may refer to the other to help him do it or tell the house when he intends to come and make the presentation.

7. Anybody among the two can make a presentation, however, he/she is expected to title his presentation properly.

8. This discuss is not intended to last a few days; it will probably take some months; so participants are expected to make the required sacrifice.

9. All points to be presented must be backed up by the Holy Bible, the one accepted by most non-Catholic churches.

10. The moderators shall be DrummaBoy and Ajibam. If any of the participants is uncomfortable with our manner of handling things, a change can be agreed upon. Please note that only participants can make suggestions for rules to be changed.

11. Participants hold the right to drop out of the discuss if they want to: due to fatigue or some or unforeseen circumstances. He/she is however advised to nominate a replacement of himself/herself.

12. While participants are not stopped from engaging the "audience", we would like to discourage this; so they can concentrate on the matters being discussed at hand. If such "engagement" does occur, we advice that it should not be to spite another participant or you will be penalized. Opportunity shall be given to the audience to ask questions but only after the discuss is concluded.

13. Participants are requested not to post on any tithe thread that is currently running on the religion section of this forum in the duration that this discuss will hold.

14. To curb excessive waste of time, we hereby request that when the discuss begin and participants are requested to make their presentations, the very first presentation should not take more than 24 hours to be done (with correction and editing). Subsequent responses to that presentation (that is the next three steps) should not take more than 12 hours to be done. If these rules are not adhered to the moderators will have to come up with a commensurate act of penalizing the participants.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 6:48pm On Dec 08, 2013

[size=16pt]THE AUDIENCE[/size]

To facilitate a smooth and thorough discussion we shall be laying down some guidelines and rules for our “audience”. We wanted a situation where only the discussants and the moderators shall be able to post on the thread but we have not been able to achieve that. Thus, to curtail unneccesary posting and a derailing of this thread we ask that our viewers or audience abide by these rules.The central moderator, Ajibam, shall be available to enforce the rules; which in some extreme cases will require that he hides some comments:

1. The audience are enjoined not to post on the thread at all. If they must post, it must be a relevant point to the discussion at hand. The moderators shall judge whether this post is necessary or not. If it is an unneccesary post, the moderators shall be hiding the post. We understand that we do not see it all; and it is possible that some of our audience have made an observation that has skipped our eyes, if you make reference to a matter like that; we consider that post valid and it shall remain. If not, we call on our audience to refrain from posting irrationally on this thread.

2. This thread is not open to any other debates on tithes. There are hundreds of tithe thread that can be utilized for that, including the one that birth this.

3. The discussion is meant to last some times. We are allowing 50hours maximum to cover discussion on each point a discussant is presenting. With a likelihood of 20 points to cover; we envision that this discussion will cover a maximum of about 1000 hours, which is about 2 months. So we call on our audience to forbear with us; for it is a slow, steady but sure way of reaching a goal, which is understanding the biblical tithes.

4. The audience will have opportunity to ask our discussants questions only after the discussion is concluded. Any question or comment directed at discussants shall be hidden. If an audience must say anything on this thread it must be directed at the moderator.

5. Following the discussion we trust that the Nairaland authorities shall place the thread on front page to allow people access to the information on it. And the floor will be open to any other comment.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 6:48pm On Dec 08, 2013

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:01pm On Dec 08, 2013

Will we give all ten points with their references all at once at the beginning? and then present the 1st point again with it's Discuss?

or just one point at a time, the Discuss, the Rebuttal, etc.?

Never mind. I see one at a time.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 7:05pm On Dec 08, 2013

[size=16pt]Attention Audience!!![/size]

We would like to thank and appreciate you all for your patience with us on this thread and for not posting indiscriminately; abiding by our rules. Following the tithe discuss, we will be allowing both tithers and those who do not tithe to present their views also; knowing fully well that there are some of us who are veteran tithe supporters and some who are anti-tithers. A full day of 24 hours shall first be given to only tithers to air their position on tithing. Posters in this section will still be asked to observe the rules for posting on this thread which our participants have abided by: no insults; no jibes; etc. Then a full day shall be given to those who do not tithe to air their views next. In this section, we would prefer that posters do not refute each other posts but rather concentrate on stating a summary of their views on tithing and why they think people should tithe or not tithe. No limit shall be given to this post; except that it should not be more than one post and it should finish with “end”. Then the moderators themselves shall state their own position on tithing.

After this, the flood gate shall be opened to “outsiders”. We trust that the nairaland management shall be kind enough to put the thread on front page after the whole conclusion of the matter “in-house”. Then everyone will be free to post, without limitation, without the rules.

Until that time audience are still advised not to post while the discussion is going on or your post will be hidden.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:05pm On Dec 08, 2013

Are Rhymejohn and Image123 here?

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:07pm On Dec 08, 2013

M1 - Abram's tithe was not his own property (Gen. 14:14-16,18-20,22-24)

M2 - Jacob's vow was conditional (Gen. 28:20-22)

M3 - Abram's tithe was spoils of war, unlike what God required of war spoils under the Mosaic/Levitic Law (Gen 14:16,22-24; Hebrews 7:4; Num. 31:26-31 )

M4 - The Law Tithe was always eaten (compare Genesis 14:22-23; Leviticus 27:30-33)

M5 - Only certain people (the Levite, the widow, the orphan, and foreigners taking refuge in the land of Israel) were qualified to receive tithes (Num. 18:24,26,28; Deut 14:22-29; Neh. 10:37-38)

M6 - The Blessings and Curse associated with tithing was not ill health, loss of job, mechanical problems, etc. (Malachi 3:10-12)

M7 - The Pharisees were not tithing money (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42 ref. Luke 18:9-12; Matthew 23:3)

M8 - The decision of the Apostles and the Holy Ghost (Acts 15:10,23-29)

M9 - The presence of the absense of the words "tithe", "tithes", "tithing", or "tenth" in relation to that practice speaks volumes. (reference the entirety of the pastoral epistles)

M10 - A Great Hearing Problem (Heb. 2:1)

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Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 7:17pm On Dec 08, 2013

Thank you very much Mark Miwerds.

We are yet to see Image and co on either of the thread on this discuss.

I am asking anyone who knows their contact to tell them that the discuss has started.

We await Image123 and Rhymeyjohn.

Thank you Ajibam for your presence and work.

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Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:21pm On Dec 08, 2013

Ajibam, thank you for taking the time to Moderate. DrummaBoy, thank you for piecing this together and for your interim Moderating. God bless you both.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by Ajibam: 7:21pm On Dec 08, 2013

brother and sisters,
please let us post about the tithing issue alone.. don't derail please..
thank you for your cooperation..

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Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:31pm On Dec 08, 2013

I see my Ally is here. Good evening, Candour. God bless you for your agreeing to be my ally in this Discussion. And thank you for your assistance in helping me to prepare for this event.

Hopefully the defending team will be along shortly.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 7:33pm On Dec 08, 2013

Ajibam and I are working on an appropriate discipline for those who fall behind schedule. We will get back at you on our decision.

This being the first of its kind, hiccups are likely to occur. So the delay. I request that we show some patience with Image and Co.

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Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 7:35pm On Dec 08, 2013

DrummaBoy:

Ajibam and I are working on an appropriate discipline for those who fall behind schedule. We will get back at you on our decision.

This being the first of its kind, hiccups are likely to occur. So the delay. I request that we show some patience with Image and Co.

Thank you, DrummaBoy. Yes, I realized that after I said it and I deleted just before this post.

Please forgive me.

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Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 7:51pm On Dec 08, 2013

@Participants

To curtail further waste of time, the only discipline that I think is appropriate for now, is to ask Miwerds/Candour to Present M1 at about an hour from now.

But this is going to be at 8.30pm, Nigerian time; which should be 1:30pm at Miwerds' Missipi (if I am not wrong).

Let us give Image and co about an hour more. If they do not present R1, then Miwerds can present M1.

This will give the anti-tithers the opportunity to start off the discuss.

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Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy(m): 8:12pm On Dec 08, 2013

Mark Miwerds: Will we give all ten points with their references all at once at the beginning? and then present the 1st point again with it's Discuss?

or just one point at a time, the Discuss, the Rebuttal, etc.?

Never mind. I see one at a time.

I just saw this. Please refer to the rules thread for further understanding but let me explain somethings:

If by 8:30pm, Image and co have not made their presentation, then you and Candour are to present M1.

That Post is to be titled Presenting M1 in bold.

Then you could go further to subtitle it Abram's Tithe was not His Own Property in bold.

Then you will make your presentation.

We do not have any rule for length of presentations, but we encourage our participants to make clear, readable, well anontated presenations; they could break it into a number of posts, if the presentation is too long, to encourage reading.

When you are through with you presentation, you should state: ended, in bold.

Then Image123 and co are to offer a rebuttal to this post. Which is to be done in less than 12 hours from the time of your presentation. They will title there rebuttal Rebutting M1 and give it any subtitle they want.

When they are done. You are to respond to their rebuttal: Response to Rebuttal M1

And they will respond to your response: Response to Response M1

All of the last two post with 12 hours difference at most.

Then they will make their own presentation at most 24 hours from that last post

Do you understand the picture, sir.

I encourage you look up the rules for presentation again.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by SalC: 8:28pm On Dec 08, 2013

*following*
May GOD increase his grace on you all.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:36pm On Dec 08, 2013

Is it time to begin?

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:44pm On Dec 08, 2013

Be right back. Have to reboot the system.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by DrummaBoy2: 8:45pm On Dec 08, 2013

Mark Miwerds: Is it time to begin?

Give Image123 and Rhymeyjohn up till 10.00pm. If they do not present by that time, you may go ahead and make the first presentation.

I saw Image viewing this page and he may have something to present soon.

BTW, I am using my second monicker here as the first one has been banned temporarily by the "engines" after my last comment was hidden. I ask my "fellow"moderator to restore it to enable me do my job here. lol!!!

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by Nobody: 8:46pm On Dec 08, 2013

8.45pm Nigerian time - where is image123 and team ?

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:56pm On Dec 08, 2013

I am back.

Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by Image123(m): 9:31pm On Dec 08, 2013

Mark Miwerds: M1 - Abram's tithe was not his own property (Gen. 14:14-16,18-20,22-24)

M2 - Jacob's vow was conditional (Gen. 28:20-22)

M3 - Abram's tithe was spoils of war, unlike what God required of war spoils under the Mosaic/Levitic Law (Gen 14:16,22-24; Hebrews 7:4; Num. 31:26-31 )

M4 - Tithes under the Mosaic Law were in no way similar to Abram's tithe (compare Genesis 14:22-23; Leviticus 27:30-33)

M5 - Only certain people (the Levite, the widow, the orphan, and foreigners taking refuge in the land of Israel) were qualified to receive tithes (Num. 18:24,26,28; Deut 14:22-29; Neh. 10:37-38)

M6 - The Blessings and Curse associated with tithing was not ill health, loss of job, mechanical problems, etc. (Malachi 3:10-12)

M7 - The Pharisees were not tithing money (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42 ref. Luke 18:9-12; Matthew 23:3)

M8 - The decision of the Apostles and the Holy Ghost (Acts 15:10,23-29)

M9 - The presence of the absense of the words "tithe", "tithes", "tithing", or "tenth" in relation to that practice speaks volumes. (reference the entirety of the pastoral epistles)

M10 - A Great Hearing Problem (Heb. 2:1)

Nice.

R1: Our tithing is borne out of the fact that the Scriptures are the inspired Word of God. (2 Timothy 3:16)
R2: Our tithing is in the belief that the law of God is truth and should be regarded. (Psalm 119:142)
R3: Our tithing continues because Jesus and all the apostles had great respect for the Bible (John 17:17)
R4: Our tithing remains practiced because there is no condemnation from God for doing it. (Romans 8:1)
R5: Our tithing is done to fulfill all righteousness (Matthew 3:15)
R6: Our tithing is because Jesus never condemned it and suggested that it ought to be done. (Luke 11:42)
R7: Our tithing is because Christians today are children of Abraham, and we find tithing a responsible thing to do. (John8:39,Galatians 3:7)
R8: Our tithing is done as the Bible shows that Jacob learnt about tithes from Abraham, showing clearly that tithing was practised long time before the law. (Hebrews 11:9)
R9: Tithing is scriptural as Jacob vowed to give it TO God, emphasizing and discerning the Lord's body (Genesis 28:22)
R10: Our tithing is based on scriptures that Jacob gave tithe of his all, a precursor and foretaste to bring all the tithe (Malachi 3:10)
God bless you all.

Welcome everyone.

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Re: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by Rhymeyjohn: 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2013

6. JACOB VOWED TO GIVE TITHE.
Tithe simply means a tenth. This is excately what Jacob vowed to give to God among other vows. Gen28:22. God himself called tithes tenth.
The tithe Abraham gave in Genesis was called a tenth part in Heb 7:2
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
KJV
7. JACOB LEARNT ABOUT TITHE FROM ABRAHAM.
From calculations, Abraham lived long enough to meet the birth of his grandson Jacob. Abraham was 100years old when Isaac was born and he died at 175 years, Isaac was 60years old when Esau and Jacob was born (i.e Abraham was 160). Jacob lived for 15years before Abraham died.Gen21:5,25:7,25:26. Also, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob lived within the same vicinity, Heb 11:9
9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: Gen 25:27
27 And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.
Notice Jacob dwelling in tents (plural) Even though there are no specific record of Abraham teaching Isaac, his son and Jacob his his grand son,it is easy to infer that Jacob must have learnt about tithing from his father/grandfather. See what God said about Abraham,
Gen 18:19
9 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
Also, not pagan/heathen nation around them practised any form of tithing in the rearest form, not even after. Another prove is that no bible record showed Abraham/Isaac teaching Jacob about circumcision, but Jacob and his children were obviously cricumcised Gen 34:15. Abraham gave tithe to a Godkind, Jacob must have picked up the idea from him.

8. JACOB OFFERED HIS TITHES.
God reminded Jacob of the vow he made in Gen28:22 in Ge26:14. With no definite response, God called to him again to rededicate his life to the God who saved him on his way and fulfill his vows. Gen35:1 Jacob and his family obeyed this time by putting away all idols and going to bethel to fulfill their vows (verse2-4). This proves that Jacob actually fulfilled his vows unlike what many anti-tithers believe. It would be unthinkable for Jacob to expect God’s physical appearance, to hand over his tenth to Him. Jacob had vowed that Gen 28:22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee. God house is where his altars should built. Jacob at bethel Gen34:6 So Jacob came to Luz, which is in the land of Canaan, that is, Bethel, he and all the people that were with him.
7 And he built there an altar, and called the place El-beth-el: because there God appeared unto him, when he fled from the face of his brother. See that it was when he was running away from his brother God appeared to him earlier.
Abraham his grand father had regularly offered animal sacrifices to God. Plants and fruits are not sacrificed on the altar. Cain who tried it was rejected by God Gen4:3,5. Those who say tithes are plants produce only are obviously wrong. The result of Jacob giving his tenth on the altar, was the proclamation of blessing Gen35:9-13. Jacob completed his vows by setting up a pillar there Gen35:14. If Jacob had not fulfilled his vows, he would have received rebuke instead of blessings from God. Abraham had offered his tithes to a Godkind-Melchizedek.( Like Jesus, Melchizedek is both priest and king Heb7:1,) and Abraham received blessing immediately he tithed (Gen14:19,20) Just like Jacob received blessings immediately he offered his tithe.
9. JACOB GAVE TITHE OF HIS ALL.
This means he gave tithe of all that God gave him just like his grandfather gave tithe of his all. At this time of the old testament, a person’s worth, wealth or “his all” can be summed up in the quantity of his herds-cattle, sheep, camels, horses e.t.c. See Abram Gen12:16, Isaac Gen26:14, Solomon Ikings4:23,26, Job, Job1:3. Later on, people’s worth was measured in currencies (gold, shekel, silver e.t.c). Jacob’s tithe of all could easily be quantified in terms of animal’s worth. No wonder this tithe was offered to God as a sacrifice on the altar, because they were actually animals (the tithe). In today’s world, the wealth of a man is summed up in Income and assets, all valued in currency (dollars, naira e.t.c).
10. TODAY WE, (CHRISTIANS) ARE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM.
Jacob was an offspring of Abraham Act7:8(not directly), Christians are offspring of Abraham by faith. Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham . Abraham is the father of faith, he believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Rom 4:3. Christians receive Christ by faith and become righteous .Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith . Abraham was called out of ‘sin’ first, and he obeyed God (faith), before he later tithed.Heb11:8, a sinner must first receive Jesus before talking about tithing. After salvation, the new Christian needs to prove his redemption with works. Phil 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. True Christians who are offspring of Abraham should do works like him, Jesus said, “ John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. Apostle Paul re-echoed this when he said.”….walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham….”Rom4:11. Tithing is a good work, no one can say its not. Tit3:14 And let ours also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful. Such good works are necessary sacrifices on the part of the Christian. Heb 13:16 But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased. A true Christian would make sacrifices that please his God.
MY SUBMISSIONS
R6. Tithe means a tenth. Heb7:1, Gen28:22
R7. Abraham laid the precept of tithing and taught (from inference) his children about it, pre-law
R8. Christians today are children of Abraham and should do the works of Abraham John8:39,Rom4:11,13, Gal3:4
R9. Abraham and Jacob gave/offered God their tithe. Christians should give God their tithe (not pastor, reverend e.t.c). Gen34:7,14:19, Mal3:10
R10. Abraham and Jacob gave tithe of THEIR ALL . A Christian should give tithe of his all. Gen28:22, Heb7:1, Mal3:10.

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