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Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by davidif: 12:14pm On Jul 28, 2008
There should be free healthcare for all nigerians especially in the rural areas, just like a lot of European countries do (especially the scandinavians and other northern europeans). Nigeria has one of the highest infant mortality rates in the world (those were supposed to be our future Bill Gates, Isaac Newton's, Albert Einstein).

Mozambique drastically cut there infant mortality rates by training high school graduates and nurses for 4 years to perform surgeries. This was a very innovative new program that the W.H.O marvelled at and recommended to other developing nations. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/birth-of-a-surgeon/introduction/747/

In Nigeria, human beings are dying from absolutely curable diseases despite the fact that all it takes to even open a world class medical school is just $120 million dollars (20 mill. for the faculty and 100 mill. for the medical centre and facilities). Unfortunately, state govts are embezzling more than that a year, My friend almost died from malaria some years ago but thanks be to God that she is still alive. Sadly, not a lot of people are not as lucky as she is. So my question is how on earth should humans  be dying from malaria or tuberculosis or even contracting polio in the freakin' 21st century.

My fellow nigerians what is your take on this topic.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by iyaade: 3:36am On Jul 29, 2008
Absolutely, it goes without saying!

Healthcare should be free wherever you go in the world in an idyllic world that is, But for real, it is possible. Someone needs to be consistent in applying taxes and channeling the money into constructing a health care system that will allow access to medical care throughout the country. The system works here in Canada, although we are in desperate need of improvement - waiting lists become dying lists sometimes. It will take some time, but it can be done.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by gabelogan(m): 9:35am On Jul 29, 2008
definately, there should be free healthcare for all. as the saying goes, health is wealth, therefore a healthy nation is a wealthy nation. its just unfortunate that we have nutcases for leaders who are more concerned with lining their pockets with the nations commonwealth at the expense of the masses.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by sistajay(f): 9:36am On Jul 29, 2008
gabe_logan:

definately, there should be free healthcare for all. as the saying goes, health is wealth, therefore a healthy nation is a wealthy nation. its just unfortunate that we have nutcases for leaders who are more concerned with lining their pockets with the nations commonwelath at the expense of the masses.

True talk oo.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by davidif: 9:37am On Jul 29, 2008
i believe that free health care should be a fundamental human right.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by landis(m): 9:46am On Jul 29, 2008
Lets face it; you can get FREE quality health to all.

But these people should get it:

Pregnant women

0-18yrs olds

Once you start working, you should pay for it. This also encourage you to stay healthy.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by davidif: 12:35am On Aug 30, 2008
this is the topic that seun osewa should be putting for general discussion instead of "Banky W" videos and topics like "she's had enough of men".
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by 4Play(m): 12:39am On Aug 30, 2008
@Topic

We can't afford it.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by Kobojunkie: 12:49am On Aug 30, 2008
Yeah, how are you gonna pay for it
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by bawomolo(m): 2:59am On Aug 30, 2008
free healthcare for a country of 140 million people. the same bunch of people that love to evade tax. dream on
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by Queenisha: 3:11am On Aug 30, 2008
bawomolo:

free healthcare for a country of 140 million people. the same bunch of people that love to evade tax. dream on

That's not even the issue.
Even if we start with just the most vulnerable (pregnant women and infants)
Can we even sustain it for any length of time
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by Kobojunkie: 3:13am On Aug 30, 2008
I don't mean to hate but Nigeria is a country that is not ready for Free HealthCare at all. With people living right next to trash and teenagers sniffing the dumps for a high, such a system will end up bankrupt in a matter of weeks, assuming the government were to fund it with oil money. LMAO!!!
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by bawomolo(m): 4:34am On Aug 30, 2008
Queenisha:

That's not even the issue.
Even if we start with just the most vulnerable (pregnant women and infants)
Can we even sustain it for any length of time

something has to be done about nigeria's infant mortality rate so SUBSIDIZED healthcare for pregnant women and infants won't be bad, but a woman with 6 kids and no considerable source of income is insane if she wants free healthcare, go collect free agbo jedi-jedi from ur neighborhood herbalist. Nigeria can't afford UHC considering it's low GDP per capita.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by Epiphany(m): 7:29am On Aug 30, 2008
Good idea in theory but may be difficult to achieve. I agree that we should start somewhere - maybe pregnant women and children.

The question is how this will be funded?
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by PapaBrowne(m): 11:30am On Aug 30, 2008
Impossible!!

Let's assume that just 30% of Nigerians fall sick twice in a year. That would amount to 50 million people with 100 million hospital cases.
If it would cost just $100(very inadequate) average to treat each person, that would be 50 million x 2 x $100 = 10 Billion dollars for very substandard healthcare at the most conservative estimate.
That would be more than half of our budget for last year. The country will go bankrupt in a year and more people will be neeeding healthcare as a result of malnutrition,

I think as stated, pregnant women,under 18s, over 65s, critically ill people, and those with unique ailments should have some kind of free healthcare.

The rest of us should pay preferably via a comprehensive health insurance plan

Asides, I wouldn't want free healthcare for myself or family, as health is too precious to have it free.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by MrCrackles(m): 11:33am On Aug 30, 2008
Kobojunkie:

I don't mean to hate but Nigeria is a country that is not ready for Free HealthCare at all. With people living right next to trash and teenagers sniffing the dumps for a high, such a system will end up bankrupt in a matter of weeks, assuming the government were to fund it with oil money. LMAO!!!

I agree with you

we are far from it, there is a whole lot to implement and it has to follow a steady monitoring processes before free healthcare can be incorporated!
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by lucabrasi(m): 12:10pm On Aug 30, 2008
i wonder why some set of we nigerians will always chime in the negative 9 times out of ten each and every time, cuba has shanties and ppl living rough yet they have one of the best medical facilities in the world,india is one of the dirtiest countries in the world yet heart surgeries and other complicated surgeries is done routinely,so does it mean that because ppl are living next to thrash and teenagers are sniffing they do not qualify for health care??guess its the children living in ikoyi,lekki,aokoro,e.t.c who do not sniff or live next to thrash that are more qualified then
@topic
if healthcare for all is the only achievement for the present administration,then nigerians will pray for them no matter how much money they v stolen,the problem is not the skills,funds or other logistics but the will to actually make it happen
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by PapaBrowne(m): 4:40pm On Aug 30, 2008
lucabrasi:

i wonder why some set of we nigerians will always chime in the negative 9 times out of ten each and every time, cuba has shanties and people living rough yet they have one of the best medical facilities in the world,india is one of the dirtiest countries in the world yet heart surgeries and other complicated surgeries is done routinely,so does it mean that because people are living next to thrash and teenagers are sniffing they do not qualify for health care??guess its the children living in ikoyi,lekki,aokoro,e.t.c who do not sniff or live next to thrash that are more qualified then
@topic
if healthcare for all is the only achievement for the present administration,then nigerians will pray for them no matter how much money they v stolen,the problem is not the skills,funds or other logistics but the will to actually make it happen

Lucabrasi,
Health care for all is different from free healthcare for all.
Health care for all means that,Health facilities, Human resource, drugs and all paraphernalia of health care would be available for all. Now this don't mean it is going 2 be free.

On the other hand, free health care for all, means health care should be free in the country. It doesn't pay much attention to the quality of health care.It just says health care should be free.

A good example of freebies is Northern Nigeria. Education has been free in most of Northern Nigeria for decades. This has not in anyway improved education in the region.

The fact remains that free health care for all is unworkable in Nigeria. A comprehensive health insurance plan that would enable wealthier folks cover up some costs for poorer folks is more ideal.

Cuba's population is 12 times less than that of Nigeria so it's not an ideal comparison.Besides, the operate a communist system where about everyother thing is free. Also, they have invested well in their health infrastructure over the decades, well as we haven't spent anything in ages. So whatever monies available should be used for developing health infrastructure instead of paying for free health care.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by tpia: 4:43pm On Aug 30, 2008
Free healthcare for the underpriviledged, especially women and children (where possible).

Others who can afford it, should pay.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by ifyalways(f): 4:59pm On Aug 30, 2008
Free healthcare for the aged and children
I thought it was even existing already or was it free eye checkups undecided
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by lucabrasi(m): 6:38pm On Aug 30, 2008
@papabrowne
i know the diffrence between free healthcare for all and healthcare for all,and i still repeat that with the funds available to us and the opportunities,it is very very possible,of course free healthcare doesnt mean both the rich and the poor or vulnerable will have it for free,ut simply means it will be heavily subsidized and lets face it even if the vulnerable in the society,the poor are given free healthcare,we have the funds to take care of it without any problem whatsoever

there are underlying problems with what you call freebies in the north,first the free education was not followed through as giving free education without the illiterates villagers knowing how to go about it is like giving a villager a bottle of coca cola while not telling them how to remove the cork,moreover you forget corruption and nepotism,religion also played a large part and thats just the periphery,

if there is a will and the government makes it a priority free healthcare for all is perfectly workable in nigeria, we have more than enough funds,we have more than enought doctors and graduates in other arms of healthcare,we have natural resources that we can give foreign nations in exchange for building as much hospitals as we want and supply of equipment just like congo did with china dyu know how many international standards hospitals plus equipment jst 2 or 3 oil wells will build?
fair enough nigeria is bigger than cuba,but dont foget so are we more than 12 times and even 100 times richer both in monetary terms and natural resources terms richer than cuba,why cant we develop healthcare infrastructures AND paying for free healthcare if we can afford it,you are comparing us to countries who are not as rich as we are and are only making the best of the scanty resources
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by bawomolo(m): 6:55pm On Aug 30, 2008
cuban gdp per capita is about 4000 dollars while nigerian gdp per capita is about 1500 dollars. this is no comparison. cuba has more money to spend per head.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by 4Play(m): 7:01pm On Aug 30, 2008
There is nothing like 'free' healthcare. Free healthcare has to be paid for. Nigeria's entire budget is not up to the UK's NHS budget(the UK has less than Nigeria's population). This claim that Nigeria is a wealthy country is unfounded.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by EloSela(f): 8:38pm On Aug 30, 2008
I believe that Nigeria has more money than the Uk and they can easily afford to fund a healthcare system that would benefit the most vulnerable in society. However Nigerians (the politicians) have less sense than those in the UK).

The saying 'a fool and his money are easily parted' is quite apt when describing the government in Nigeria. How else would one describe the dismal state that the country is in despite generating billions upon billions of money through oil revenue a week? The UK doesn't even have a quarter of the money that Nigeria has yet the country can still manage to provide healthcare for its citizens, decent schools, basic resources, and good roads to say the least. Speaks volumes don't it?
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by madamkoko: 9:08pm On Aug 30, 2008
Free Healthcare in Nigeria CANNOT work.   wink wink

Meaning: FREE is not the issue but QUALITY Healthcare.

Poor people will continue to have access to rubbish, and rich people will continue to send their families abroad for treatment.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by tombola: 9:13pm On Aug 30, 2008
madamkoko:

Free Healthcare in Nigeria CANNOT work.   wink wink

Meaning: FREE is not the issue but QUALITY Healthcare.

Poor people will continue to have access to rubbish, and rich people will continue to send their families abroad for treatment.


You are one ignatius woman - or man - or both - its people like you who sayd nothing can work in Nigeria

see yah head.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by lucabrasi(m): 9:17pm On Aug 30, 2008
bawomolo:

cuban gdp per capita is about 4000 dollars while nigerian gdp per capita is about 1500 dollars. this is no comparison. cuba has more money to spend per head.
yes and did you think of the diffrent vices that brought about the 1500 figure?how r bout corruption,nepotism,spending government revenue on misplaced priorities e.t.c plus we practice a totally diffrent form of government to cubas, cuba doesnt have as much money to spend on each citizen that nigeria if we were properly governed or we had visionary leaders like castro
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by madamkoko: 9:24pm On Aug 30, 2008
You are one ignatius woman - or man - or both - its people like you who sayd nothing can work in Nigeria

see yah head.


Another slowpoke who has nothing of value to add to the discussion results to insults.
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by PapaBrowne(m): 9:42pm On Aug 30, 2008
@Lucabrasi
You are muddling up the need for quality health care infrastructure with the need for free health care.
Funnily, free health care would hamper the needed investment in health care infrastructure.Monies which would hitherto have been spent on building qualitative hospitals and buying equipments would now have to be spent on free health care.
Remember most of that money would be spent on treating people with easy to cure/avoidable diseases like malaria.

madamkoko
link=topic=154942.msg2730564#msg2730564 date=1220126931:


Free Healthcare in Nigeria CANNOT work.   wink wink

Meaning: FREE is not the issue but QUALITY Healthcare.

Poor people will continue to have access to rubbish, and rich people will continue to send their families abroad for treatment.

Perfect finish.Right on point!
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by bawomolo(m): 10:05pm On Aug 30, 2008
EloSela:

I believe that Nigeria has more money than the Uk and they can easily afford to fund a healthcare system that would benefit the most vulnerable in society. However Nigerians (the politicians) have less sense than those in the UK).

The saying 'a fool and his money are easily parted' is quite apt when describing the government in Nigeria. How else would one describe the dismal state that the country is in despite generating billions upon billions of money through oil revenue a week? The UK doesn't even have a quarter of the money that Nigeria has yet the country can still manage to provide healthcare for its citizens, decent schools, basic resources, and good roads to say the least. Speaks volumes don't it?

the UK doesn't have  a quarter of the money nigeria has?? damn why isn't nigeria a member of the G9  cheesy again nigeria isn't rich considering it's overblown population. 

lucabrasi:

yes and did you think of the diffrent vices that brought about the 1500 figure?how r bout corruption,nepotism,spending government revenue on misplaced priorities e.t.c plus we practice a totally diffrent form of government to cubas,  cuba doesnt have as much money to spend on each citizen that nigeria if we were properly governed or we had visionary leaders like castro

u have a point but castro is the last person that i would call visionary.  nigeria has to build up it's health infrastructure or have quality doctors like those of cuba before even talking about free healthcare. i would take quality healthcare over free healtcare
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by Nobody: 11:17pm On Aug 30, 2008
sure why not
Re: Do You Believe In Free Healthcare For All Nigerians? by lucabrasi(m): 1:27am On Aug 31, 2008
PapaBrowne:

@Lucabrasi
You are muddling up the need for quality health care infrastructure with the need for free health care.
Funnily, free health care would hamper the needed investment in health care infrastructure.Monies which would hitherto have been spent on building qualitative hospitals and buying equipments would now have to be spent on free health care.
Remember most of that money would be spent on treating people with easy to cure/avoidable diseases like malaria.


im not muddling it up,what im saying is that if we can afford to have quality healthcare and free health for all,why not??
free healthcare would hamper needed investments IF we do not have the financial wherewithal to make it happen, thats why i gave the example of congo and how they gave a portion of their mineral deposit to china to mine in return for them buildn hospitals,roads and other infrastructures to match the worth of the minerals after logistics is taken out of the total,
in that situation we do not even need to spend a single naira but give them a couple of oil blocs, if generals,politicians,obas and others can have several oil blocs,then a serious president who is desirous of creating a first class healthcare delivery will have no problem giving oil blocs in exchange for world class medical institutions situated in all the major regions of nigeria,
do you realise there are reports that even governore odili who was just a 2 time governor has a standard hospital in southafrica bought with ill gotten money and we r here talking about a whole country where all of them steal from,

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