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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 8:37pm On Dec 12, 2013
Omo_Tier1:

It is a FACT that Edo state is more prosperous and is developing faster than your Anambra.

Show me one place in Anambra that looks like this:



This is why I said that you guys are mediocres.. grin grin

Is this round-about the much talked about development in edo state? The round-about that was built 40years ago and that ugly thief just came to repaint it.

By the way is this what that ugly thief got to show for 6years in power. A round-about that does not add anything meaningful to the state. You guys have entered one chance. The same way Oshomole is ugly is the same way edo state is ugly. He cannot give what he does not have.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by OmoTier1(m): 8:37pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects:


Google is your friend. Edo state with the so called huge IGR is still in shambles, archaic and mess. How has it translated to the common man. Instead your ugly governor is busy telling widows to go and die. What a state to be born into..

Show me one school in Anambra that looks like this:

Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 8:39pm On Dec 12, 2013
Now Omotier read:




Nigeria finds oil and gas in commercial quantities in Anambra
Aug 12, 2003 02:00 AM

About 30 tcf of gas and 1 bn barrels of crude oil has been found in the Anambra River basin in Anambra State, the Director of Engineering standard in the Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR), Mr Patrick Onwumere, said in Awka.
Mr Onwumere who led a team of experts to assess the volume of gas and crude reserves in the Anambra River basin as well as gauge the preparedness of the state government in the establishment of an indigenous refinery through its oil company, Orient Petroleum Resources, said the team was impressed with what it saw on the ground.

His revelation was coming on the heels of a confirmation by the Managing Director of Orient Petroleum, Engr. Nnaemeka Nwawka that a large hectare of land for the construction of the refinery which would be sited at Otuocha in Anambra East Local Government area of the state had been mapped out. Nwawka added that the only thing delaying full acquisition of the land is the state governor's signature on the certificate of occupancy (CoO) for the land.
According to Onwumene, his team's visit was a preliminary move which has to do with the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) of the area, the level of land acquisition promised by the governor, and the examination of the extent of work done so far by the Orient Petroleum Resources.

Onwumene also said he and members of his team were interested in seeing that the exploitation of oil and gas takes off earnestly in the state and expressed his team's satisfaction on the state's preparedness to accomplish their exploitation. He said Anambra State had three sources of oil supply which included, the existing local reserve from the Brass/Agip, import from Venezuela as well as the already discovered wells at Oroma-Etiti in Anambra West and Otuocha in Anambra East council areas of the state.
Onwumene said his team found that the state's oil company, Orient Petroleum Resources had maintained good relationships with the host communities, especially those bordering where the refinery would be sited. He added that with the take off of exploitation of oil reserves in the very near future, a lot of jobless indigenes of Anambra State would be gainfully employed.

http://www.gasandoil.com/news/discoveries/d89bc98903f0500bdba5eca6bd2b8b9b


You can see we have been Bless by GOD with resources. We don't make noise about. It is there, it is there. No shaking..

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 8:46pm On Dec 12, 2013
Ayekotoo:
in as much as I like your write-up and analysis but its highly biased.
yorubas are great entrepreneurs. infact, they are the largest entrepreneurs in Nigeria.
Yorubas are the largest welders, barbers, carpenters, butchers, hairdressers, artists, bricklayers, plumbers, traders, mechanics, vulcanizers et all in the country, these can be seen from their associations' executives in nigeria. These are just semi and unskilled professions. in other hand, igbos exp their men are the largest importers in nigeria. They just love importing anything whether good or bad due to the numbers of their ignorance for economy.

it will of course be bias, but seem even more bias than it is because I know things about Igbo land that a non igbo doesn't and I'm very proud and how my people govern themselves. I'm also a oduaphile, I love yoruba culture, my company even bares a yoruba name so i have been inclined to study governance in yoruba land because i'm a fan of both tribes and knowledge.



yorubas are great entreprenuers, but in a yoruba state a barber has to pay 4X what an igbo does to start his business legally. He will then pay a higher annual tax than the igbo. So within a year which barber do you think will have more money for expansion?

That's what i'm trying to say. The igbo, within a year or two will be training his younger siblings and the yoruba will still be surviving day to day because the igbo pays next to nothing in taxes. The government of the yoruba's state will be richer and thus able to repair the road in front of his market but the reason i use this example is it proves the IGR is a foolish measurement of state performance and wealth.

Ebonyi is not outperforming Anambra in anything, but according to this it's the strongest igbo state. Even in Igboland, business thrives more in Anambra and Abia than Enugu and Imo. The first two have extremely low taxes (Anambra has none for starting a business), and Enugu and Imo, though low for Nigeria, are high for igbo land. The end result is Enugu and Imo look better infrustructrually then Abia and Anambra which are two states that in some places look like the government doesn't exist.


There are villages in Abia that are 80% mansions, but don't have roads.
I'm a fan of the igbo republican style, and that's why im not a fan of Rochas Okorocha, he's too socialist/populist and it's wasting people's potential.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Sloan: 8:48pm On Dec 12, 2013
bloggernaija:

That is our history.
That is our heritage.
Many of those homes are over 800yrs old.

UNASHAMEDLY AN ODUA STATES NATIONALIST


Blogger, I think you meant 800 but there is a typo. Kindly fix!
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by agbameta: 8:50pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects: Now Omotier read:




Nigeria finds oil and gas in commercial quantities in Anambra
Aug 12, 2003 02:00 AM

About 30 tcf of gas and 1 bn barrels of crude oil has been found in the Anambra River basin in Anambra State, the Director of Engineering standard in the Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR), Mr Patrick Onwumere, said in Awka.
Mr Onwumere who led a team of experts to assess the volume of gas and crude reserves in the Anambra River basin as well as gauge the preparedness of the state government in the establishment of an indigenous refinery through its oil company, Orient Petroleum Resources, said the team was impressed with what it saw on the ground.

His revelation was coming on the heels of a confirmation by the Managing Director of Orient Petroleum, Engr. Nnaemeka Nwawka that a large hectare of land for the construction of the refinery which would be sited at Otuocha in Anambra East Local Government area of the state had been mapped out. Nwawka added that the only thing delaying full acquisition of the land is the state governor's signature on the certificate of occupancy (CoO) for the land.
According to Onwumene, his team's visit was a preliminary move which has to do with the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) of the area, the level of land acquisition promised by the governor, and the examination of the extent of work done so far by the Orient Petroleum Resources.

Onwumene also said he and members of his team were interested in seeing that the exploitation of oil and gas takes off earnestly in the state and expressed his team's satisfaction on the state's preparedness to accomplish their exploitation. He said Anambra State had three sources of oil supply which included, the existing local reserve from the Brass/Agip, import from Venezuela as well as the already discovered wells at Oroma-Etiti in Anambra West and Otuocha in Anambra East council areas of the state.
Onwumene said his team found that the state's oil company, Orient Petroleum Resources had maintained good relationships with the host communities, especially those bordering where the refinery would be sited. He added that with the take off of exploitation of oil reserves in the very near future, a lot of jobless indigenes of Anambra State would be gainfully employed.

http://www.gasandoil.com/news/discoveries/d89bc98903f0500bdba5eca6bd2b8b9b


You can see we have been Bless by GOD with resources. We don't make noise about. It is there, it is there. No shaking..


And a decade after this revelation, where is the gas?

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 8:53pm On Dec 12, 2013
Omo_Tier1:

Show me one school in Anambra that looks like this:

LOL you don't get it, Anambra has the highest JAMB test scores in the entire nation! So what does your painted desk really mean? Imo has a number of jamb applicants that's double the next closest Yoruba state. It's great that Edo and APC states have focused on making school presentable, but schools in igbo land focus of competition between students, and displaying achievement and talent. When the governor visits the best students present their skills, they compete for this honor, and so when it's time to take a test they maintain the attitude of competition. Everyone wants to be the best, desk, bare floor or mansion, it doesn't matter the terrain.

Because of our own philosophy, my own village has 4 polytechnics, all build by private individuals and town unions. One village. Anambra is no different. and NO igbo parent is trying to take their kids to public school. It's a disgrace because the quality of education is inferior. Most igbo children go to church owned or business owned private schools.

Igbos have a different philosophy in governing

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by bloggernaija: 8:54pm On Dec 12, 2013
Ayekotoo:
in as much as I like your write-up and analysis but its highly biased.
yorubas are great entrepreneurs. infact, they are the largest entrepreneurs in Nigeria.
Yorubas are the largest welders, barbers, carpenters, butchers, hairdressers, artists, bricklayers, plumbers, traders, mechanics, vulcanizers et all in the country, these can be seen from their associations' executives in nigeria. These are just semi and unskilled professions. in other hand, igbos exp their men are the largest importers in nigeria. They just love importing anything whether good or bad due to the numbers of their ignorance for economy.

ignorance my friend is a disease.
you dey mind them.
They actually think a trader is more useful to a society than those you have listed .
What you also did not point out is that the bulk of professionals from IT to medicine are omoluabis
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 8:55pm On Dec 12, 2013
MajeMedia:

it will of course be bias, but seem even more bias than it is because I know things about Igbo land that a non igbo doesn't and I'm very proud and how my people govern themselves. I'm also a oduaphile, I love yoruba culture, my company even bares a yoruba name so i have been inclined to study governance in yoruba land because i'm a fan of both tribes and knowledge.



yorubas are great entreprenuers, but in a yoruba state a barber has to pay 4X what an igbo does to start his business legally. He will then pay a higher annual tax than the igbo. So within a year which barber do you think will have more money for expansion?

That's what i'm trying to say. The igbo, within a year or two will be training his younger siblings and the yoruba will still be surviving day to day because the igbo pays next to nothing in taxes. The government of the yoruba's state will be richer and thus able to repair the road in front of his market but the reason i use this example is it proves the IGR is a foolish measurement of state performance and wealth.

Ebonyi is not outperforming Anambra in anything, but according to this it's the strongest igbo state. Even in Igboland, business thrives more in Anambra and Abia than Enugu and Imo. The first two have extremely low taxes (Anambra has none for starting a business), and Enugu and Imo, though low for Nigeria, are high for igbo land. The end result is Enugu and Imo look better infrustructrually then Abia and Anambra which are two states that in some places look like the government doesn't exist.


There are villages in Abia that are 80% mansions, but don't have roads.
I'm a fan of the igbo republican style, and that's why im not a fan of Rochas Okorocha, he's too socialist/populist and it's wasting people's potential.




You missed some points. How is Enugu and Imo outperforming Anambra infra-structurally? Are you deceived by the comestics done only in the state capital or what exactly.

Anambra surpasses all those states you mentioned on road infrastructures that traverses the entire state and communities not just the urban center and state capital.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by donphilopus: 9:00pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects:


Google is your friend. Edo state with the so called huge IGR is still in shambles, archaic and mess. How has it translated to the common man. Instead your ugly governor is busy telling widows to go and die. What a state to be born into..
Below are pictures of Edo and Anambra!

[img]http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/1355211_BENIN-CITY_jpgd19e0386a12cd682a3b5b1aa0d5034fa[/img]

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1355212_AWKA_jpg3f9f65721ac6fa6191fe088cdcf60a2d

Any similarity??
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:00pm On Dec 12, 2013
agbameta:


And a decade after this revelation, where is the gas?


I was only replying to Omo-tier that said that Anambra does not have gas. The oil in Anambra is being explored, very soon it will start reflecting on our revenue.

FG is already building the largest petrochemical plant to tap from the gas.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by atlwireles: 9:01pm On Dec 12, 2013
Sloan:

Spot on! It's really gratifying to see Edo State up there...showing up the way on how a state should be viable! The IGR/Total Revenue is indeed very impressive! This is a more accurate way to measure who is "hardworking" and planning for their people and state. Carry go joor...see you folks at the TOP!


This is classic, so you finally accept the data as is. Now give kudos to Delta grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin By the way the 2014 budget will set N80B as the IGR target. cool cool cool cool cool cool
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:02pm On Dec 12, 2013
donphilopus: Below are pictures of Edo and Anambra!

Any similarity??


OMG!

You are posting pictures of federal road, which has been award for reconstruction. Is that round-about what oshomole achieved for 6years? grin
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 9:03pm On Dec 12, 2013
Another myth i would like to debunk.

Igbos do "low skill work" or don't value education. This is the funniest lie in stereotyping in Nigeria.


The Igbos that leave igbo land are frontiers men. They're not going to leave Abia to work in the civil service of Lagos. At the same time Yorubas that are in igbo land aren't working in the state civil service. Now, name one company or industry in Nigeria that doesn't have an over-representation of igbos.

Again, Imo, Delta, Anambra, and Abia EVER year trade places for #1 in Jamb scores, and WAEC. These are facts. Literacy in all igbo states, except Ebonyi, is 94%+. You have never met an Igbo man or woman that doesn't speak english, every well, and english is taught in schools. I met Yorubas Edos and Hausas that don't speak english, the language of education in Nigeria. You will never meet a homeless igbo man or one that isn't feeding his or her family.

It's not fair that we'll resort to lies to insulting igbos. You can say that we're into international crime, and we'll agree. You can see we're over zealous about other people's lands and we'll agree. But to say that we're not educated, or that we're poor...there's no reason to lie about reality. The same way I'm not going to say Yorubas aren't open minded and accommodating, they are very open minded and accomodating. I'm not going to say that Yorubas don't value education and their culture because this isn't reality.



To come in and say the igbos work 'low skill work' because the igbos that go to your state are frontiersmen is foolish because the head of the IMF is Igbo, there's an Igbo in the UK and Polish parliment, an Igbo heads the NY stock exchange, and in Lagos it's self every bank and firm of science is flooded with Igbos. Igbos are building computers, cars, TV, radios etc, what exactly is low skill about this?

Alaba market and places like that are for young men that feel their personal business skill will help them raise faster than civil service. Many of the men there are college educated and also work as pharmacists and other skilled trades.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:06pm On Dec 12, 2013
See Benin where the ugly oshomole has borrowed over 100billion.. grin grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkiEdoruIsQ
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by donphilopus: 9:06pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects:


OMG!

You are posting pictures of federal road, which has been award for reconstruction. Is that round-about what oshomole achieved for 6years? grin
No! Can you show us what Peter Obi has achieved??
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Ayekotoo(m): 9:08pm On Dec 12, 2013
MajeMedia: Ndigbo have had a long and turbulent history with taxes, and they're seen as culturally unjust due to the republican nature of our culture. Thus governments that plan on staying implement low taxes. If Igbos were pro-tax, Nigeria may still be a colony (Aba Woman's riots, attacks and rejection of warrant chiefs etc)

If you notice developments in Igboland are more republican and in yoruba land they're more socialist. For example, Where a yoruba governor will implement a busing system run by the state, and igbo governor will buy buses (most often cars) and give it to private citizens to employ themselves (Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi).

Yoruba governors are keen to building schools and managing them. Igbo governors are keen to building schools and hand them to private hands or back to churches (Abia, Anambra)

Some governments in igboland have even privatized radical elements of government. Rochas Okorocha has sold all government enterprises, and has pressured universities to fund themselves by starting their own palm plantations. Anambra and Abia have handed the states schools back to churches and missionaries that build them


Poverty is not as stark in igboland as it is in Yoruba land. Most people can sustain themselves and earn an income. You won't see beggars. Thus the government doesn't need to maintain an expensive welfare state. The state's with the most poverty in Igbo land, Ebonyi and Enugu, as a result have to use more government intervention and thus per capita their IGR is higher because the government does more. Anambra, government or not, will function the exact same way because it's highly republican and entrepreneurial. Abia even more so.



So the end result is the IGR of igbo state can be low and tax policy low to encourage entrepreneurship and do so. The Igbo populace don't like the idea of tax, credit and debt. The igbo states thus have low taxes, don't borrow (except with the mismanagement of Rochas Okorocha who is considered a radical element), and have the lowest debts in the country.







Both methods work, but they're just different philosophies of how to govern and the beauty of federalism is it allows the country to be a laboratory of ideas and different methods. Let the best man win, the competition is healthy, but it's unfair to us IGR to measure economic strength. We all know Ebonyi isn't economically stronger than Anambra so it's a fallacy. If Igbos began using debt to prove wealth they would be the richest, and Lagos the poorest.
in as much as I like your write-up and analysis but its highly biased.
yorubas are great entrepreneurs. infact, they are the largest entrepreneurs in Nigeria.
Yorubas are the largest welders, barbers, carpenters, butchers, hairdressers, artists, bricklayers, plumbers, traders, mechanics, vulcanizers et all in the country, these can be seen from their associations' executives in nigeria. These are just semi and unskilled professions. in other hand, igbos exp their men are the largest importers in nigeria. They just love importing anything whether good or bad due to the numbers of their ignorance for economy.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by MajeMedia: 9:09pm On Dec 12, 2013
Now you're just trying to insult people for their profession. To assume all igbos are 'importers' because the ones that go to lagos to use the port are, obviously, going to use the port to import and export, is completely foolish. Zinox, Innoson, Orange Drugs, ABC, Nollywood, Aba manufactures, Tony Elemelu are all importers and exporters? Would if be fair for me to say all yorubas are agberos, beggars and danfo drivers?

ChinoElects:


You missed some points. How is Enugu and Imo outperforming Anambra infra-structurally? Are you deceived by the comestics done only in the state capital or what exactly.

Anambra surpasses all those states you mentioned on road infrastructures that traverses the entire state and communities not just the urban center and state capital.

ndi nile nor na thread ke na chor ukwa ndi igbo, owu mi ki ga ba ogwu?
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:10pm On Dec 12, 2013
Omotier, this is the same Benin that oshomole borrowed 100billion

Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by agbameta: 9:11pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects:


I was only replying to Omo-tier that said that Anambra does not have gas


I was just inferring that your claim doesn't jell with facts on the ground.


The oil in Anambra is being explored, very soon it will start reflecting on our revenue.

A decade is more than enough to get the so called huge oil out of the ground..


FG is already building the largest petrochemical plant to tap from the gas


Where in Anambra and when was the contract awarded by the FG?
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by donphilopus: 9:16pm On Dec 12, 2013
MajeMedia: Another myth i would like to debunk.

Igbos do "low skill work" or don't value education. This is the funniest lie in stereotyping in Nigeria.


The Igbos that leave igbo land are frontiers men. They're not going to leave Abia to work in the civil service of Lagos. At the same time Yorubas that are in igbo land aren't working in the state civil service. Now, name one company or industry in Nigeria that doesn't have an over-representation of igbos.

Again, Imo, Delta, Anambra, and Abia EVER year trade places for #1 in Jamb scores, and WAEC. These are facts. Literacy in all igbo states, except Ebonyi, is 94%+. You have never met an Igbo man or woman that doesn't speak english, every well, and english is taught in schools. I met Yorubas Edos and Hausas that don't speak english, the language of education in Nigeria. You will never meet a homeless igbo man or one that isn't feeding his or her family.

It's not fair that we'll resort to lies to insulting igbos. You can say that we're into international crime, and we'll agree. You can see we're over zealous about other people's lands and we'll agree. But to say that we're not educated, or that we're poor...there's no reason to lie about reality. The same way I'm not going to say Yorubas aren't open minded and accommodating, they are very open minded and accomodating. I'm not going to say that Yorubas don't value education and their culture because this isn't reality.



To come in and say the igbos work 'low skill work' because the igbos that go to your state are frontiersmen is foolish because the head of the IMF is Igbo, there's an Igbo in the UK and Polish parliment, an Igbo heads the NY stock exchange, and in Lagos it's self every bank and firm of science is flooded with Igbos. Igbos are building computers, cars, TV, radios etc, what exactly is low skill about this?

Alaba market and places like that are for young men that feel their personal business skill will help them raise faster than civil service. Many of the men there are college educated and also work as pharmacists and other skilled trades.

gratiaeo: We has more land in Lagos and Yorubas are happy about that. Yoruba taught they are the most educated region in Nigeria until jamb bust their bubble.
Imagine you gave somebody 20pounds to start life again hopping to impoverish the person forever, the person come back after 10yrs buying all your price assets with impunity

This' from a renowned Igbo man.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by agbameta: 9:16pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects: Omotier, this is the same Benin that oshomole borrowed 100billion


The picture you posted is Jondaft's problem. Read the green sign if you sabi read and comprehend.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:21pm On Dec 12, 2013
agbameta:


The picture you posted is Jondaft's problem. Read the green sign if you sabi read and comprehend.


Ezi okwu?

But he equally posted a picture of a federal road in Anambra that was just awarded for reconstruction. Let him be warned that I have a bucket of pictures from his laid-back state to show-case here.

Hypocrites..
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:23pm On Dec 12, 2013
agbameta:


I was just inferring that your claim doesn't jell with facts on the ground.



A decade is more than enough to get the so called huge oil out of the ground..




Where in Anambra and when was the contract awarded by the FG?


FG to build petro-chemical plant in Anambra

Federal Government will soon build a huge petro-chemical facility in Anambra State.

Special Adviser to the President on Petroleum Matters, Dr. Emmanuel Egboga, disclosed this after a courtesy call on Governor Peter Obi at the Government House, Awka, last week. He said he was in Government House to share ideas with Governor Obi whom he described as the best Governor Anambra State has had.

Dr. Egboga said the facility which would be sited at Igbariam area, when completed, would be the biggest gas plant of its kind in Africa with the capacity of creating more than 10,000 employment opportunities for the people and make the state the centre of gas business.

The presidential adviser, who stated that gas exploitation will soon commence in the state, noted that the state, especially the Ugwuoba-Awka area has the biggest gas zone in the country.


He explained that the planned National Gas Pipeline System is connected from the South-East to the North through Calabar, passing through Ajaokuta to Kano on to Sahara and will form part of the Trans-Sahara Gas Pipeline that will take the country ’s gas to Europe.

According to Egboga, the system is equally connected from South West to the North with a connector from South East to the West.

He said part of his discussion with the governor was on measure to ensure early exploitation of petroleum products in the state and commended the governor for his remarkable achievements in every sector.
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Nobody: 9:26pm On Dec 12, 2013
@MajeMedia

I wouldnt faulr your posts as to A REASONABLE EXTENT, It looks true.

However, what I just see as faulty in your theories here is the motive behind them. ! . A good government, irrespective of the mantle of expectations & responsibilities that is required of it by its people, must show its qualities of "good" through the delivery of the adequate standard of welfare & good life that the people of a nation (or the government) are entitled to OR should boast of.

That the people of a nation or government do not actively depend or rely on the government IS NO EXCUSE for the government to be a Nonentity.

Be it Socialist or Republican, or whatever character & way of life the people of a country may portray, Its Government must be Reliable. !!!

The BITTER truth here is:

I'm sorry if you feel offended, but I just have to put it straight that the Government/Leaderships in Igboland are the BEST examples of the WORST kind of governments that ever occured in human history. !! .

But please hope you remember that "the home of the people IS the picture of the people themselves. "

The reason for been Republicans is the reason why your homes are what they are today

...Also, the reason why we Yorubas are Socialists is the reason why our homes are what they are today.


MY 2 cents. !
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Ayekotoo(m): 9:28pm On Dec 12, 2013
MajeMedia:
it will of course be bias, but seem even more bias than it is because I know things about Igbo land that a non igbo doesn't and I'm very proud and how my people govern themselves. I'm also a oduaphile, I love yoruba culture, my company even bares a yoruba name so i have been inclined to study governance in yoruba land because i'm a fan of both tribes and knowledge
This is pointless!

yorubas are great entreprenuers, but in a yoruba state a barber has to pay 4X what an igbo does to start his business legally. He will then pay a higher annual tax than the igbo. So within a year which barber do you think will have more money for expansion?
How many igbos are barbers? moreover, I typed that to rubbish your perspection about Igbos are more entrepreneurial


That's what i'm trying to say. The igbo, within a year or two will be training his younger siblings and the yoruba will still be surviving day to day because the igbo pays next to nothing in taxes. The government of the yoruba's state will be richer and thus able to repair the road in front of his market but the reason i use this example is it proves the IGR is a foolish measurement of state performance and wealth
if this is true, how come ebonyi state trumps Anambra in term of IGR or is Ebonyi not a typical Igboland? like someone said, its either your leaders have failed woefully in discharging their duties or they are milking your revenues dry.

Ebonyi is not outperforming Anambra in anything, but according to this it's the strongest igbo state. Even in Igboland, business thrives more in Anambra and Abia than Enugu and Imo. The first two have extremely low taxes (Anambra has none for starting a business), and Enugu and Imo, though low for Nigeria, are high for igbo land. The end result is Enugu and Imo look better infrustructrually then Abia and Anambra which are two states that in some places look like the government doesn't exist.
someone had responded to this


There are villages in Abia that are 80% mansions, but don't have roads.
I'm a fan of the igbo republican style, and that's why im not a fan of Rochas Okorocha, he's too socialist/populist and it's wasting people's potential.
most of the people that own mansions live in outside igboland but only come home occasionally to use them. they are always empty but fill during festive season


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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by agbameta: 9:28pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects:


FG to build petro-chemical plant in Anambra

Federal Government will soon build a huge petro-chemical facility in Anambra State.

Special Adviser to the President on Petroleum Matters, Dr. Emmanuel Egboga, disclosed this after a courtesy call on Governor Peter Obi at the Government House, Awka, last week. He said he was in Government House to share ideas with Governor Obi whom he described as the best Governor Anambra State has had.

Dr. Egboga said the facility which would be sited at Igbariam area, when completed, would be the biggest gas plant of its kind in Africa with the capacity of creating more than 10,000 employment opportunities for the people and make the state the centre of gas business.

The presidential adviser, who stated that gas exploitation will soon commence in the state, noted that the state, especially the Ugwuoba-Awka area has the biggest gas zone in the country.


He explained that the planned National Gas Pipeline System is connected from the South-East to the North through Calabar, passing through Ajaokuta to Kano on to Sahara and will form part of the Trans-Sahara Gas Pipeline that will take the country ’s gas to Europe.

According to Egboga, the system is equally connected from South West to the North with a connector from South East to the West.

He said part of his discussion with the governor was on measure to ensure early exploitation of petroleum products in the state and commended the governor for his remarkable achievements in every sector.



You said


FG is already building the largest petrochemical plant to tap from the gas



There's a huge difference between To and Already



So far at this very second, it doesn't exist, it was just talk...
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:30pm On Dec 12, 2013
agbameta:



You said


FG is already building the largest petrochemical plant to tap from the gas



There's a huge difference between To and Already



So far at this very second, it doesn't exist, it was just talk...

Under construction presently..
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by agbameta: 9:33pm On Dec 12, 2013
ChinoElects:

Under construction presently..


Any proof?

Where in anambra and when was the contract awarded?
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by Ayekotoo(m): 9:34pm On Dec 12, 2013
bloggernaija:
What you also did not point out is that the bulk of professionals from IT to medicine are omoluabis
I purposely omitted the skilled professions to avoid emergency ward tonight. lmao
Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ifechez: 9:34pm On Dec 12, 2013
Ayekotoo:
in as much as I like your write-up and analysis but its highly biased.
yorubas are great entrepreneurs. infact, they are the largest entrepreneurs in Nigeria.
Yorubas are the largest welders, barbers, carpenters, butchers, hairdressers, artists, bricklayers, plumbers, traders, mechanics, vulcanizers et all in the country, these can be seen from their associations' executives in nigeria. These are just semi and unskilled professions. in other hand, igbos exp their men are the largest importers in nigeria. They just love importing anything whether good or bad due to the numbers of their ignorance for economy.



Here they go again. Its a fact that Aba has more artisans than the entire yorobar land put together.

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Re: The IGR Debate - Reloaded! by ChinoElects: 9:35pm On Dec 12, 2013
Ayekotoo:
This is pointless!



most of the people that own mansions live in outside igboland but only come home occasionally to use them. they are always empty but fill during festive season




Where had you got this trash? The last we checked apart from lagos which is not yorobar developed enclave and is dominated by non yorobass, SE is far more populated than all the yorobar states put together.

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