wirinet: Biafran Igbos and militant Ijaws have one thing in common - chest beating. They pound their chest louder than a silver back gorilla trying to show he is the alpha male.

Who says a coup cannot succeed? That was what the Muslim Brotherhood thought in Egypt until they were booted out by the military. And up till today nothing dey happen. The only obstacle to a successful coup is the unity of the military, especially the army. If the military is not divided, there is nothing anybody or group can do. Maybe all these chest beaters have never experienced a military coup, when a military occurs, it is akin to a war situation until the coup plotters take full control of the country. The army rolls out tanks into the streets, the army occupies all strategic installations and areas, airports, seaports and borders are closed and every relevant person in the government is killed or arrested. You think militants, biafrans and even Boko harm can face tanks, planes and artillery fire. Pray we never experience another coup and an opposed bloody coup for that matter. If a bloody coup should happen most of our politicians would jump into their private jets and zoom off, Asari. and tompolo be in Benin Republic tending their businesses and their wealth. It is me and you - Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Ijaw, Idoma, etc, that will suffer the consequence.

Go ahead and have your coup. Only this time ensure that the coupists are led by a yoruba general. Bottom line, if there is coup now, the military will most certainly be divided. There is not two ways about it.

otokx: The days of coup are long gone in Nigeria but GEJ should strengthen his SSS and DMI, the visit of some people to Ota farms actually raised a red flag in my subconscious.

GEJ should stop chasing shadows and get to work.

wirinet: Biafran Igbos and militant Ijaws have one thing in common - chest beating. They pound their chest louder than a silver back gorilla trying to show he is the alpha male.

Who says a coup cannot succeed? That was what the Muslim Brotherhood thought in Egypt until they were booted out by the military. And up till today nothing dey happen. The only obstacle to a successful coup is the unity of the military, especially the army. If the military is not divided, there is nothing anybody or group can do. Maybe all these chest beaters have never experienced a military coup, when a military occurs, it is akin to a war situation until the coup plotters take full control of the country. The army rolls out tanks into the streets, the army occupies all strategic installations and areas, airports, seaports and borders are closed and every relevant person in the government is killed or arrested. You think militants, biafrans and even Boko harm can face tanks, planes and artillery fire. Pray we never experience another coup and an opposed bloody coup for that matter. If a bloody coup should happen most of our politicians would jump into their private jets and zoom off, Asari. and tompolo be in Benin Republic tending their businesses and their wealth. It is me and you - Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Ijaw, Idoma, etc, that will suffer the consequence.

The problem with most of you is that you live on the past not knowing that the times that we are in now is much different and complex era. The biafran and ijaw chest beaters you are talking about are your fellow countrymen, bonafide first class citizens of Nigeria like every other parts. Not era where one part was lording it over other parts and like I said before coup is impossible in this present era because even the military composition of those coup eras sided one side but now there is nothing like that there is almost a balance so mr forget about coup happening.

PointB:

I saw them inhaling tear gas in Ojota. By the way where is Bakare now? Has he stopped cursing buhari?

Was it not cowardice that the SE felt the heat of the removal of subsidy yet couldn't organize a protest? The same thing with the SS. It protests held in the SE and in the north. Now, you want to benefit from SURE-P.

eGuerrilla: Unbelievable Afam4eva!

Like so many die hard supporters of Jonathan on these boards, you've just demonstrated an intolerance for dissenting opinion.

In a different environment, on the strength of that post alone, your ability to continue moderating in a non-bias fashion will be called into question.

How's that?

PointB:

Go ahead and have your coup. Only this time ensure that the coupists are led by a yoruba general. Bottom line, if there is coup now, the military will most certainly be divided. There is not two ways about it.

Look at this FOOL? You keep talking about division in the military while everyone is mapping his territory?

Or lemme get you, ibos are trying to dominate others with the help of Jonathan, right? You can never ever ever dominate us, your forefathers tried it and they failed. I laugh in your stupidity.

If anybody messes up with Gej i forsee WAR

wirinet: Biafran Igbos and militant Ijaws have one thing in common - chest beating. They pound their chest louder than a silver back gorilla trying to show he is the alpha male.

Who says a coup cannot succeed? That was what the Muslim Brotherhood thought in Egypt until they were booted out by the military. And up till today nothing dey happen. The only obstacle to a successful coup is the unity of the military, especially the army. If the military is not divided, there is nothing anybody or group can do. Maybe all these chest beaters have never experienced a military coup. When a military occurs, it is akin to a war situation until the coup plotters take full control of the country. The army rolls out tanks into the streets, the army occupies all strategic installations and areas. Airports, seaports and borders are closed and every relevant person in the government is killed or arrested. You think militants, biafrans and even Boko harm can face tanks, planes and artillery fire. Pray we never experience another coup and an opposed bloody coup for that matter. If a bloody coup should happen most of our politicians would jump into their private jets and zoom off, Asari. and tompolo be in Benin Republic tending their businesses and their wealth. It is me and you - Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Ijaw, Idoma, etc, that will suffer the consequence.

all these elaborate scenario you just painted, would you say Oodua's finest will be leading the charge?

stop making noise.

Onlytruth: Any keen political observer would agree that the body languages of known coup plotters in Nigeria in the past few weeks indicate that something is going on behind closed doors. I would like to believe that those known coup plotters are only delusional to think that they will EVER again be allowed to dictate the fate of millions of Africans in their own land.
So, they can be carelessly led to believe that they can come back to relevance; it changes nothing on the ground! They will soon learn that Nigeria is not the land, and that the peoples that make up Nigeria will NEVER AGAIN allow them to dictate their futures.
I have always maintained that Nigeria is NOT the LAND, but the PEOPLE living there. Already, a sizable chunk of Nigerians are tired of the Nigerian experiment and want to end it. All they need is a very good reason to end it... like a coup.

They should have their coup and come and rule me and suck oil to line their pockets.
Shebi that is what they think they want? They will only do that after 60 million people have perished at several war fronts!Including all of them corrupt politicians recklessly pushing the country into a civil war because they want power at all costs.

djon78:


The problem with most of you is that you live on the past not knowing that the times that we are in now is much different and complex era. The biafran and ijaw chest beaters you are talking about are your fellow countrymen, bonafide first class citizens of Nigeria like every other parts. Not era where one part was lording it over other parts and like I said before coup is impossible in this present era because even the military composition of those coup eras sided one side but now there is nothing like that there is almost a balance so mr forget about coup happening.

I never denied My igbo brothers (in fact in-laws) and Ijaw neighbours (we have a shared history dating. hundreds of years ), What I am trying to point out is all the boosts of we will go to war is just empty threats. War takes years of preparation, planing and finance unless you have the backing of the the world powers.

I do not see any area lording it over other parts, what I see is a class of people oppressing other classes. The political class has turned themselves into lords as they have special privileges, special wages, and are above the law. it does not matter if they are Hausa, yoruba or igbo. Their attitude is summerized by Oshiomole's "go and die " attitude.

If the arguments are about the split within the military is what makes a coup impossible, I would not argue. But someone saying that it is the fear of militants or Biafrans that discourages a military coup is laughable.

wirinet:

I never denied My igbo brothers (in fact in-laws) and Ijaw neighbours (we have a shared history dating. hundreds of years ), What I am trying to point out is all the boosts of we will go to war is just empty threats. War takes years of preparation, planing and finance unless you have the backing of the the world powers.

I do not see any area lording it over other parts, what I see is a class of people oppressing other classes. The political class has turned themselves into lords as they have special privileges, special wages, and are above the law. it does not matter if they are Hausa, yoruba or igbo. Their attitude is summerized by Oshiomole's "go and die " attitude.

If the arguments are about the split within the military is what makes a coup impossible, I would not argue. But someone saying that it is the fear of militants or Biafrans that discourages a military coup is laughable.

Honestly dude you're better off talking to the wall than debating with some folks here except may be you've got some time to waste.

wirinet:

I never denied My igbo brothers (in fact in-laws) and Ijaw neighbours (we have a shared history dating. hundreds of years ), What I am trying to point out is all the boosts of we will go to war is just empty threats. War takes years of preparation, planing and finance unless you have the backing of the the world powers.

I do not see any area lording it over other parts, what I see is a class of people oppressing other classes. The political class has turned themselves into lords as they have special privileges, special wages, and are above the law. it does not matter if they are Hausa, yoruba or igbo. Their attitude is summerized by Oshiomole's "go and die " attitude.

If the arguments are about the split within the military is what makes a coup impossible, I would not argue. But someone saying that it is the fear of militants or Biafrans that discourages a military coup is laughable.

so what have you been arguing about then? you mean you've been arguing with yourself over nothing since? lol
what you needed to do was calm down and read the OP slowly and carefully.
some of you nairalanders call others by names you deserve to call yourselves! smh

Ironsi had more than this in 1967 and all the security apparatus were under Igbo's in Lagos. However, it only took the northerners 2 hrs to send all Igbo officers running for their lives towards the East.

Not to even talk about now when the morale of the naija army is low, after endless of raping and successive defeats induced by the rag-tag BH. Talk is cheap. When the coup kicks off, I believe all the top of the military would be collateral damage, including a lot of people in the present government. It would be well orchestrated, with the capitals of a few western countries - and if it's successful, it would be back to business as usual. Apart from a few raucous and rants, here and there. However, definitely not from Igbo's - all Igbo's would have eloped to the East of the Niger River by then. The fear of the northerners is the beginning of wisdom for Igbo's.

I'm gone.

Ola Johnson:
Was it not cowardice that the SE felt the heat of the removal of subsidy yet couldn't organize a protest? The same thing with the SS. It protests held in the SE and in the north. Now, you want to benefit from SURE-P.

You mean Eastern Nigerians would protest to ensure that Tinubu, Adenuga, Folawiyo, Oba Otudeko, et al, collect over two billion each from subsidies? Or do you know anyone from Eastern Nigeria that received up to five billion from subsidies you people were protesting to be sustain?

chukwudi44: I can guarantee you that your people in the North are the ones to face the repercussion of such action.

Seriously dude!!! You think some people hold a monopoly over violence? BTW any killings in the north will affect all sourtherners living there be it yoruba,igbo or SS.The illiterate almajiris who perpetrate violence do not know Buhari and Tinubu are in alliance.

But any hint or attempt to stage a coup will lead to unprecedented violence and destruction of oil installations in the Niger-delta.Any killings in the north will equally be replicated in the east.You fools should stop thinking you are still in 1966

I hate to comment on anything coup as it brings bad memories.

Typical of my elder Onlytruth, I am not surprised but it is the height of it for a moderator.

More distressing is the fact that they know where and when and who gave the rainmaker the sacrificial goat that brought the rain that is beating us now.

This rain is about to stop us from planting.

All reasonable people know how coups started in this country and they cannot deny it.

Onlytruth: Any keen political observer would agree that the body languages of known coup plotters in Nigeria in the past few weeks indicate that something is going on behind closed doors. I would like to believe that those known coup plotters are only delusional to think that they will EVER again be allowed to dictate the fate of millions of Africans in their own land.
So, they can be carelessly led to believe that they can come back to relevance; it changes nothing on the ground! They will soon learn that Nigeria is not the land, and that the peoples that make up Nigeria will NEVER AGAIN allow them to dictate their futures.
I have always maintained that Nigeria is NOT the LAND, but the PEOPLE living there. Already, a sizable chunk of Nigerians are tired of the Nigerian experiment and want to end it. All they need is a very good reason to end it... like a coup.

The President is his own enemy.

The President of anything, naturally, is the apex of an organizational structure and attracts competition and envy and plenty of venomous attacks from those who aspire to sit in that position. This outpour of human emotion is normal and healthy for competitive advantage and survivability in a physical sense. This is a position that demands selfishness, bruteness and insensitivity. Those with sensitive nature and altruistic views are usually natural born leaders but their ledership is more desirable in a supportive capacity where they work in the background and toil selflessly in support of the egomania installed in the Presidency. Here are few examples of Presidencies..debate club; sports club; student union; residential organization; labour union; professional organization; political caucus. These are all structural systems to help order our society and the person in charge of this orderliness is the President of that organization. To top it all, the President of a sovereign nation is the one person who must at all times bring orderliness to the nation's multi-structures - economic, politics, culture, finance, diplomatic and so on and so forth.

In a complex country like Nigeria, we deserve and must have a President that posesses the attributes of a Alpha dog - brutally self centered, insensitive, highly competitive and aspiring, very toxic and venomous. Equally, we deserve and must have around him and supporting him a pack of very sensitive and society friendly leaders who think of others first.

This balance in arrangement allows the president to think less of a threat within but also makes him vulnerable knowing that the people sorrounding him are not power hungry and therefore are indispensable. If he gets rid of them he risks bringing in power hungry and egomania like himself and therefore increase acts of insurbordination and divided allegiance within his advisers. The President in this arrangement and with all his might and brute thus becomes a softie in the hands of his advisers.

The advisers on the other hand, too accomodating and sensitive to the populace are also vulnerable, in the sense that they are powerless to see their dream of a great society manifest unless they are yielding to the desires of the President.

This paradoxical leanings work together to move a society forward and improve orderliness.

Here is a brief analysis of past Presidents and their close advisers and the impact to society.

1.
Tafawa Balewa - Sensitive and altruistic
Cabinet - Full of egomanias eyeing his post.
Impact - Disaster, breakdown of order!

2.
Aguiyi Ironsi - Sensitive and altruistic
Cabinet - Full of egomaniacs out for vengeance
Impact - Total disaster, war!

3.
Yakubu Gowon - Brutal, egomaniac, competitive
Cabinet - Sensitive, altruistic, socialists
Impact - Growth, orderliness

4.
Murtala Muhammed - Brutal, egomaniac, competitive
Cabinet - Mixed (brutal, egos and sensitive socialists)
Impact - Growth and orderliness

5.
Olusegun Obasanjo - Brutal, egomaniac, competitive
Cabinet - sensitive, altruistic, socialists
Impact - Growth and orderliness

6.
Shehu Shagari - Sensitive, altruistic
Cabinet - sensitive, altruistic
Impact - Disorder, chaos

7.
Muhammed Buhari - Sensitive, altruistic
Cabinet - mixed
Impact - Growth and orderliness

8.
Ibrahim Babangida - Brutal, egomaniac, selfish
Cabinet - brutal, egomaniacs, competitive
Impact - Disorder, chaos

9.
Ernest Shonekan - Sensitive, altruistic
Cabinet - brutal, egomaniacs, competitive
Impact - Growth, order

10.
Sanni Abacha - Brutal, egomaniac, competitive
Cabinet - Brutal, egomaniac, competitive
Impact - Disorder, chaos

11.
Abubakar Abdulsalami - Brutal, egomaniac
Cabinet - Sensitive, socialists
Impact- Growth, order

12.
Olusegun Obasanjo - Brutal, egomaniac
Cabinet - Sensitive, altruistic
Impact - Growth, order

13.
Umaru Yaradua - Sensitive, altruistic
Cabinet - mixed
Impact - Disorder, chaos

14.
Goodluck Jonathan - Sensitive, altruistic
Cabinet - Brutal, egomaniac, competitive
Impact - Disorder, chaos.

Looking at the pattern President Jonathan's administration should be bringing growth and order..but it is not! Why so? The President is his own enemy!

More later..

chukwudi44: I can guarantee you that your people in the North are the ones to face the repercussion of such action.

Seriously dude!!! You think some people hold a monopoly over violence? BTW any killings in the north will affect all sourtherners living there be it yoruba,igbo or SS.The illiterate almajiris who perpetrate violence do not know Buhari and Tinubu are in alliance.

But any hint or attempt to stage a coup will lead to unprecedented violence and destruction of oil installations in the Niger-delta.Any killings in the north will equally be replicated in the east.You fools should stop thinking you are still in 1966

. Even for 1966 no be dem lose , no be dis kind thing dem do dat time wey north no wan make power go dem side again, till today no be dem still dey make noise and crying foul about the woe they brought upon themselves, blaming the other tribe that understood the first rule of war is to "fight and run" in order to live to fight another day", sebi na dem born pikin pass, and the only alliance they have is the SS, let's wait and see na......seriously life is hard,but its harder when you are stupid........, what my people from SE have failed to realize is that, abacha, yaradua, tunde idiagbon even MKO were also killed by NIGERIA and nothing happened since its for the peace to reign, trust me if same thing happens to jonathan, a section of the country will burn for few days, few people will lost their lives (probably not upto lives that has already been wasted under the watch of this government), then soldiers will be deployed to the affected area to stop the shit, he will be given a befitted burial ceremony, ANOTHER MAN WILL BE CHOSEN FROM HIS REGION, either for president or VP, and that will be d end of the story, I swear Nigeria won't break, nothing will even happen to the (our oyel)....only the fools will get killed, those that understand war is not coca cola, will never come out to fight, especially all these Nairalanders that come here to spew rubbish like they have 7 lives at home. BTW what of if jonathan get the same treatment as abacha, idiagbon and abiola , I mean what of if he slump and die (agagu), what of if he's involved in a ghastly motor accident ( princess diana), will you guys still cut our heads ?......jonathan is actually playing games with the devils that have killed many big rat without shedding blood, that he's still the president of this country today is because God keep giving him chances to redeem himself but too bad, he keep relying on praise singers, forgetting that you can fool someone at all time but you can't fool everyone at the same time, I'm not praying for his death, but if he's going to bring or cause more harm than he has done so far, the fathers of this nation should do the needful asap,so that timaya can sing DEM MAMA re remix very soon.

Raggedy_Ann:


I agree with you totally. But don't undermine the mischief afoot. This is not about wether GEJ is doing well or not - it's about his plan to restore a kind of balance that is unacceptable to a certaIn factIon. They've worked hard to discredit his achievements, second-guessed him at every turn, and used the media to distort reality ( perception is reality they know). The Nigerian people are gullible and take to propaganda easily, they trust the hype more than their own eyes. That's what happens when people aren't educated.

Impeachment has been part of the plan all along.

. When was the last time you spoke to your president, when was the last time he held a live program on NTA and give people chance to call in and ask question, what are the effects of most of his responses in all of his interviews, Nigerians let's call spade a spade, he has distance himself from the masses that voted him in thereby giving chance to those who are using media against him,you guys keep talking about achievement as if he has been able to profer solution to our basic problems, why is it so hard for us to achieve 24 hours power supply, portable water, good network, motorable roads, and pump more money into agriculture to reduce cost of foods, if this your so called mandela is sincere and not what they said he is (corrupt)....he would have achieve all these within 3 years, so far he hasn't touch the lives of common man he's a total failure like his predecessors, I don't want to hear about any drone or some stupid airports rehabilitation,I don't want a government that scores himself high when we all know he has performed woefully below average despite the claim that he has worked beyond his predecessors, this is 2014, we don't need a scam as president anymore, either from the SE or SS, present us with a credible candidate, if we find him worthy we'll vote for him but if you guys think you can stand behind this man, then be ready to go down with him like adekunle went down with ironsi.

djfaithy: . When was the last time you spoke to your president, when was the last time he held a live program on NTA and give people chance to call in and ask question, what are the effects of most of his responses in all of his interviews, Nigerians let's call spade a spade, he has distance himself from the masses that voted him in thereby giving chance to those who are using media against him,you guys keep talking about achievement as if he has been able to profer solution to our basic problems, why is it so hard for us to achieve 24 hours power supply, portable water, good network, motorable roads, and pump more money into agriculture to reduce cost of foods, if this your so called mandela is sincere and not what they said he is (corrupt)....he would have achieve all these within 3 years, so far he hasn't touch the lives of common man he's a total failure like his predecessors, I don't want to hear about any drone or some stupid airports rehabilitation,I don't want a government that scores himself high when we all know he has performed woefully below average despite the claim that he has worked beyond his predecessors, this is 2014, we don't need a scam as president anymore, either from the SE or SS, present us with a credible candidate, if we find him worthy we'll vote for him but if you guys think you can stand behind this man, then be ready to go down with him like adekunle went down with ironsi.

The earlier you get used to the fact that GEJ will rule till 2019,the better for you

Malawian:

all these elaborate scenario you just painted, would you say Oodua's finest will be leading the charge?

stop making noise.

. Worefa, it was one of oodua finest that helped Nigeria to win biafra, we are not chest beaters but actualizers , when the time comes the yorubas will do what they are known for, FINISHING. Only the empty barrels make noise

djfaithy: . Worefa, it was one of oodua finest that helped Nigeria to win biafra, we are not chest beaters but actualizers , when the time comes the yorubas will do what they are known for, FINISHING. Only the empty barrels make noise

Just like you did during the June 12 crisis.smh for cowards

djfaithy: . Worefa, it was one of oodua finest that helped Nigeria to win biafra, we are not chest beaters but actualizers , when the time comes the yorubas will do what they are known for, FINISHING. Only the empty barrels make noise

you mean a small boy

- gave ooduas sage a job

- gave ooduas pink scorpion the booth
etc