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Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by lovetterrison(m): 11:47am On Dec 26, 2013
The military-backed interim government has declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group. The decision was announced in a Cabinet statement after a long meeting on Wednesday.
"We declare the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group, criminalizing the group as a terrorist one. This is in accordance with the criminal law number 86 and all the consequences which criminalize all its activities, its financing and even group membership or to advertise for the group, whether in writing or in any other way." said Hossam Eissa, Egypt’s Minister of Higher Education.
Eissa said that the decision was in response to Tuesday’s deadly bombing targeting a police headquarters in the Nile Delta city of Mansoura. The attack killed 16 people, mostly police officers, and wounded over 140. But he offered no evidence in his speech linking the Brotherhood to the attack. The Brotherhood has denied being responsible for Tuesday’s attack. Meanwhile, Sinai-based Islamist militant group Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis has said it carried out the car bomb attack in Mansoura.
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20131226/100979.shtml

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by stevoski059(m): 12:21pm On Dec 26, 2013
Pls declear it illegal and just be free, Christianity is the solution to the worlds troubles

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Nobody: 8:15pm On Dec 26, 2013
stevoski059: Pls declear it illegal and just be free, Christianity is the solution to the worlds troubles

LWKMH. If you are so obsessed about islam pls go and hug transformer

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 9:36pm On Dec 26, 2013
good news from egypt.the Sunnis are finally waking up to the dangers of Salafism/Wahhabism.

what is the difference between the Salafist brotherhood in egypt and Nigeria's boko haram? now the salafists in Egypt have started the car bombings and shedding the blood of innocent egyptians,the overwhelming majority of whom is muslim.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by vedaxcool(m): 9:56am On Dec 27, 2013
Chairman nl league of munafiqun, has spoken.

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:31am On Dec 27, 2013
please watch this video of CNN's Fareed Zakaria's "What in the World".it is about Saudi Arabia,Wahhabism and Terrorism:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/11/01/exp-gps-1103-witw-saudi-arabia.cnn.html

if this is coming from CNN (an american outlet,the US being a Saudi ally),then it looks like the west is finally coming to terms and seeing the reality of things.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by harbiola1(m): 1:33pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia: please watch this video of CNN's Fareed Zakaria's "What in the World".it is about Saudi Arabia,Wahhabism and Terrorism:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/11/01/exp-gps-1103-witw-saudi-arabia.cnn.html

if this is coming from CNN (an american outlet,the US being a Saudi ally),then it looks like the west is finally coming to terms and seeing the reality of things.
That Islam is?
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 5:49pm On Dec 27, 2013
harbiola1:
That Islam is?

that is Islam and the vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with the Wahhabi/Salafist extremism and terrorism,which in many cases is funded with Saudi petro-dollars.in fact,the west knows that often at times,the west has used the extreme wahhabi ideology to further its interests.this was seen in afghanistan against the soviet union and presently in syria against the pro-russian and pro-iranian syrian alawite-led regime of assad.however,after the rapprochement between the US and Iran (under Hassan Rouhani's tenure),it seems the west is coming to terms with reality.the west would prefer a powerful and straightforward Shia Iran to a filthy and weaker wahhabi saudi arabia for relations.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by opeyemi2013: 6:18pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia:

that is Islam and the vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with the Wahhabi/Salafist extremism and terrorism,which in many cases is funded with Saudi petro-dollars.in fact,the west knows that often at times,the west has used the extreme wahhabi ideology to further its interests.this was seen in afghanistan against the soviet union and presently in syria against the pro-russian and pro-iranian syrian alawite-led regime of assad.however,after the rapprochement between the US and Iran (under Hassan Rouhani's tenure),it seems the west is coming to terms with reality.the west would prefer a powerful and straightforward Shia Iran to a filthy and weaker wahhabi saudi arabia for relations.
mr man you must face the reality that sunni=wahabism=salafist=the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation of islam. Anyone who is seeking to follow the true islam must follows the best 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations of islam. Shia iran is funding hezboytan to unleash terror across middle east, some of there terrorism extended to africa, recently members of hezboshaytan were jailed in nigeria and kenya. One of the prominent politician in lebanon who was sunni was murdered today by hezboyshaitan. The same way they killed rafik hariri who was also a sunni.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by opeyemi2013: 6:37pm On Dec 27, 2013
Muslim brother won four consecutive elections. It obvious Muslim brother is popular in egypt, it is the minority secular hypocrite muslims, christian, old politicians that benefited from mubarak dictatorship conniving with military junter been sponsored by kingdom of saudi and secretly by western islamophomes to suppress legitimate egyptian mandate. If they can survive this oppression for 80years under dictatorship then it mean they will still survive this latest brutal oppression.

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by harbiola1(m): 8:56pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia:

that is Islam and the vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with the Wahhabi/Salafist extremism and terrorism,which in many cases is funded with Saudi petro-dollars.in fact,the west knows that often at times,the west has used the extreme wahhabi ideology to further its interests.this was seen in afghanistan against the soviet union and presently in syria against the pro-russian and pro-iranian syrian alawite-led regime of assad.however,after the rapprochement between the US and Iran (under Hassan Rouhani's tenure),it seems the west is coming to terms with reality.the west would prefer a powerful and straightforward Shia Iran to a filthy and weaker wahhabi saudi arabia for relations.
All these have nothing to do with either Sunni/Shia theology differences or Islam as a religion. Political interest is what Islamic nations are using to relegate Islam to God knows where. And arguing over it won't do any good.

Well, I pray that Iran has what it takes to befriend US.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 9:07pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
mr man you must face the reality that sunni=wahabism=salafist=the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation of islam. Anyone who is seeking to follow the true islam must follows the best 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations of islam. Shia iran is funding hezboytan to unleash terror across middle east, some of there terrorism extended to africa, recently members of hezboshaytan were jailed in nigeria and kenya. One of the prominent politician in lebanon who was sunni was murdered today by hezboyshaitan. The same way they killed rafik hariri who was also a sunni.

no sir,the three terms are not the same,even though often used to deceive the unsuspecting and to brainwash the sunni youth.your 1st,2nd and 3rd generations of Islam were not all angels.the earlier you realize they included both pious and evil men,the better.you cant follow all.

i have not read in the news where Hezbollah (you are derogatively referring to) has unleashed terror in the middle east.where? the only entity hezbollah has unleashed terror on,as found in its mission statements,is israel.and as we all know israel is an occupation force that is far from innocent.check wikipedia and read that the creation of hezbollah itself as a force against or a resistance movement was in reaction to israel's invasion of lebanon, up to the lebanese capital beirut,in 1982.

as far as those lebanese arrested are concern,read Justice Adetokunbo's verdict.none were hezbollah members,and only one was found guilty for arms found underneath his house in kano.and justice Adetokunbo clarified that belonging to hezbollah is not illlegal or a criminal offense in Nigeria as far the lebanese community is concerned,and in particular Lebanese Shia Muslims.hezbollah also happens to be a political party in lebanon with members in both parliament and government.

there is no evidence hezbollah killed hariri or is responsible for the former minister assassinated today.in the news i read,the group condemned the assassination,and evidence have emerged that it is a salafist affiliated group with alqaeda (ala boko haram) in lebanon that killed the minister,who happens to be a moderate sunni politician.your post stinks of ignorance.why do you waste my time? read first and comment later.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 9:08pm On Dec 27, 2013
Al-Azhar Sunni Sheikh: Shia are Muslims and Salafists are extremists:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF68my1oQXM
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Stalwert: 9:36pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia: please watch this video of CNN's Fareed Zakaria's "What in the World".it is about Saudi Arabia,Wahhabism and Terrorism:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/11/01/exp-gps-1103-witw-saudi-arabia.cnn.html

if this is coming from CNN (an american outlet,the US being a Saudi ally),then it looks like the west is finally coming to terms[ and seeing the reality of things.

The same west that labels Iran a terror sponsoring state and Hezbollah a terror organisation? You sound pathetic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiAVcVBQdPg

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Stalwert: 9:45pm On Dec 27, 2013
[b] 1998 United States embassy bombings[edit]

On November 8, 2011, Judge John D. Bates ruled in federal court that Iran was liable for the 1998 United States embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. In his 45-page descision, Judge Bates wrote that "Prior to their meetings with Iranian officials and agents Bin Laden and al Qaeda did not possess the technical expertise required to carry out the embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam."[39]

September 11[edit]

The U.S. indictment of bin Laden filed in 1998 stated that al-Qaeda "forged alliances . . . with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies."[40] On May 31, 2001, Steven Emerson and Daniel Pipes wrote in The Wall Street Journal that "Officials of the Iranian government helped arrange advanced weapons and explosives training for Al-Qaeda personnel in Lebanon where they learned, for example, how to destroy large buildings."[41]

The 9/11 Commission Report stated that 8 to 10 of the hijackers on 9/11 passed through Iran and their travel was facilitated by Iranian border guards.[40][42] The report also noted that "a senior operative of Hezbollah" (Imad Mughniyah) was on the flights that convoyed the future hijackers from Saudi Arabia to Tehran, along with associates that Kenneth Timmerman describes as "Iranian agents".[42][43] The extent of Iranian involvement has been questioned due to major differences between the religious ideologies of Iran and al Qaeda;[44] according to the 9/11 Commission report, Mughniyah's presence on flights carrying the hijackers to Iran may have been a "remarkable coincidence."[42] After the commission called for "further investigation" into a possible Iranian role in the attacks, President George W. Bush demanded that Iran sever its ties with al-Qaeda, while saying that in his view, "There was no direct connection between Iran and the attacks of September 11."[43]

Judge George B. Daniels ruled in a federal district court in Manhattan that Iran bears legal responsibility for providing "material support" to the 9/11 plotters and hijackers in Havlish, et al. v. Osama bin Laden, Iran, et al.[45][46] Included in Judge Daniels' findings was that Iran "used front companies to obtain a Boeing 757-767-777 flight simulator for training the terrorists", Ramzi bin al-Shibh traveled to Iran in January 2001, and an Iranian government memorandum from May 14, 2001 demonstrates Iranian culpability in planning the attacks.[45] Defectors from Iran’s intelligence service testified that Iranian officials had "foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks." [44][/b]

Riyahd compound bombings[edit]

According to Seth G. Jones and Peter Bergen, the 2003 Riyadh compound bombings were planned by al Qaeda operatives in Iran, with apparent Iranian complicity.[47][48]

January 2009 sanctions[edit]

In January 2009, the United States Treasury Department placed sanctions on four al-Qaeda operatives based in Iran. These include Mustafa Hamid, Muhammad Rab'a al-Sayid al-Bahtiyti, Ali Saleh Husain, and Sa'ad bin Laden, one of Osama bin Laden's sons. Stuart Levey, Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, said that:

“ It is important that Iran give a public accounting of how it is meeting its international obligations to constrain al Qaida... Designations have a far reaching impact, deterring would-be donors from providing financial support to terrorism and leaving al Qaida leadership struggling to identify much-needed funding resources.[49] ”

July 2011 sanctions[edit]

In July 2011, the United States Treasury Department reported that Iran has been allowing al-Qaeda to channel money and operatives throughout the country. In response, the Treasury Department placed sanctions on six alleged cooperatives, including Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil, who was described as an important al-Qaeda facilitator based in Iran. The department said that Khalil was allowed to operate in Iran since 2005, and has been transporting money and terrorist recruits into Iran from the Middle East, and then to Pakistan. David Cohen, undersecretary for terrorism and financial intelligence, noted that by revealing these connections, "We are illuminating yet another aspect of Iran’s unmatched support for terrorism."[50]

October 2012 sanctions[edit]

In October 2012, the United States Treasury Department designated Adel Radi Saqr al-Wahabi al-Harbi, a deputy to the al Qaeda facilitator Muhsin al-Fadhli, who is based in Iran, and placed him under sanctions. Al-Harbi was accused of helping the travel of terrorists from Iran to Afghanistan or Iraq for al-Qaeda, as well as seeking money to support terrorism. The Treasury Department said that the al-Qaeda network used by al-Harbi operates according to an agreement with the Iranian government, under which al-Qaeda can operate and travel freely throughout Iran and to use Iran as a key transit point.[51]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state_terrorism[b]1998 United States embassy bombings

Remember Lagosshia now accepts the west judgement as being not only right but opening their eyes, we leave the Hypocrite to start the somersault!
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:15pm On Dec 27, 2013
^

if we are to accept the above allegations,then its a fair game.iranian nuclear scientists have also been assassinated and iran has accused israel and the west.hezbollah officials including its secretary general were assassinated.

also in most of these allegations,iran and its ally deny involvement.the salafists/wahhabis dont deny or condemn targeting civilians in Shia mosques or christian churches.again,all these allegations have to do with attacks on political establishments of the opposing side.like for instance,hezbollah was accused of the bombing in burgas,bulgaria by israel.that accusation was used to pressure the EU, after decades of reluctance and refusal, to designate hezbollah's military wing as a "terrorist organization".and the sad part is even bulgaria came out to deny evidence pointing to hezbollah's involvement and stated the accusation is political.

my challenge still stands to any Wahhabi/Salafist sympathizer, to bring one instance where a Shia suicide bomber has blown himself up among civilians in a Sunni mosque or a christian church,as wahhabi/salafist terrorists often do in iraq against Shia and in Nigeria against christians.you will not find one instance.if i am to go further,even the jews and the christians dont go into mosques to blow up people.what is salafism/wahhabism turning Islam into?
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by harbiola1(m): 10:21pm On Dec 27, 2013
Misplacement of priority.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:23pm On Dec 27, 2013
harbiola1:
All these have nothing to do with either Sunni/Shia theology differences or Islam as a religion. Political interest is what Islamic nations are using to relegate Islam to God knows where. And arguing over it won't do any good.

Well, I pray that Iran has what it takes to befriend US.

the problem is Islamists and Islam are not the same.in fact the former is no product of the latter.Islam cannot be contained and owned by a party,group,sect or individual.it is for all muslims.that is the point extremists fail to see in regarding only themselves as Muslims/"islamists" and others as "not muslim enough".and that exactly is the issue at hand the Sunni sheikh from al-azhar tackled in the above video.wahhabis/salafists in fact are not a sect of islam.they are a movement or an ideology within sunni islam,that the majority of sunnis dont adhere to.and by many standards,wahhabis/salafism is a deadly cult tarnishing the image of Islam and muslims,and also acting as a burden when muslims are to stand up for their justified causes and to defend their due rights.

you dont call yourself an islamist and claim to be defending/representing/imposing islam,and suddenly you regard whoever opposes you as opposing islam.islam is no one man's property.the sunni,the shia,the sufi,etc all belong to Islam.you dont declare 95% of muslims as "idolaters" (mushrikeen) or "disbelievers" (kuffar) and expect only yourself to be the "face of islam".therefore the brotherhood's Muhammad Morsi is no more muslim than General Abdul-fattah al-Sisi who overthrew him.simply because the so called islamists speak with a tongue painted with religion doesnt mean they are right or only them are muslims.in fact they are hijacking Islam.people in our own part of the world get deceived because they fail to see that not everyone with a long beard and claiming titles in Islam is right.we can still disagree with them and be muslims.they are not prophets or infallible.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Stalwert: 10:30pm On Dec 27, 2013
grin grin
LagosShia: ^

if we are to accept the above allegations,then its a fair game.iranian nuclear scientists have also been assassinated and iran has accused israel and the west.hezbollah officials including its secretary general were assassinated.

also in most of these allegations,iran and its ally deny involvement.the salafists/wahhabis dont deny or condemn targeting civilians in Shia mosques or christian churches.again,all these allegations have to do with attacks on political establishments of the opposing side.liek for instance,hezbollah was accused of the bombing in burgas,bulgaria by israel.that accusation was used to pressure the EU after decades of reluctance and refusal to designate hezbollah's military wing as a "terrorist organization".and the sad part is even bulgaria came out to deny evidence pointing to hezbollah's involvement and stated the accusation is political.

my challenge still stands to any Wahhabi/Salafist sympathizer to bring one instance where a Shia suicide bomber has blown himself up among civilians in a Sunni mosque or a christian church,as wahhabi/salafist terrorists often do in iraq against Shia and in Nigeria against christians.you will not find one instance.if i am to go further,even the jews and the christians dont go into mosques to blow up people.what has salafism/wahhabism turning Islam into?

grin since lagosshia has accepted that Iran is terror sponsoring state and Hezboshaytan a terror group, we can all go and rest seeing that the hypocrite accepts terrorism as fair game. I rest my case, his only problem with the muslim brotherhood is that they are not shii terrorist, no they simply are a movement he finds challenging the grave worshipping shamelessness of shiis misguided belief. Remember he by accepting the Iran sponsors al Qaeda means that Iran works closely seriously to destroy Islam by sponsoring groups that the WEST he so much worships termed terror organisations. The hypocrite goes further and lie that Salafist cleric do not condemn terrorism, now he behaves like the kafiroons who lie muslims do not condemn terrorism, Lagiosshia Invoke Allah curse upon yourself if your statement that Salafist do not condemn terror acts and suicide bombing against civilians. I dare you to do so, and if you fail to do so, you are a dammed Liar and Hypocrite!

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:38pm On Dec 27, 2013
Stalwert: grin grin
grin since lagosshia has accepted that Iran is terror sponsoring state and Hezboshaytan a terror group, we can all go and rest seeing that the hypocrite accepts terrorism as fair game. I rest my case, his only problem with the muslim brotherhood is that they are not shii terrorist, no they simply are a movement he finds challenging the grave worshipping shamelessness of shiis misguided belief. Remember he by accepting the Iran sponsors al Qaeda means that Iran works closely seriously to destroy Islam by sponsoring groups that the WEST he so much worships termed terror organisations. The hypocrite goes further and lie that Salafist cleric do not condemn terrorism, now he behaves like the kafiroons who lie muslims do not condemn terrorism, Lagiosshia Invoke Allah curse upon yourself if your statement that Salafist do not condemn terror acts and suicide bombing against civilians. I dare you to do so, and if you fail to do so, you are a dammed Liar and Hypocrite!

dont force getting flogged again,Vedaxcool.

you talk too much nonsense and baseless imaginations encapsulated with insults to express your beliefs.

your desperate attempt,instead of condemning the problem,is to put the Shia and your bloodthirsty wahhabis/salafists in the same boat.it doesnt work that way.your wet dream that iran sponsors alqaeda has not being established once by iran's staunchest enemies and rivals.how can your "islamists" friends accept help from Shia Iran?

but just in case you are so dumb and wahhabic,are you not ashamed that your wahhabi heroes in alqaeda are sponsored by the Shia whom you refer to as "grave-worshippers"? where is your principle of "eliminating" disbelief and killing the "idolater" Shias who "worship" graves?

iran and the west have a longstanding history of political rivalry and enmity.iran doesnt go about bombing churches packed with innocent christian worshippers because Bush is an evangelical christian,like your boko haram does against innocent christian worshippers.get real.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by opeyemi2013: 10:40pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia:

no sir,the three terms are not the same,even though often used to deceive the unsuspecting and to brainwash the sunni youth.your 1st,2nd and 3rd generations of Islam were not all angels.the earlier you realize they included both pious and evil men,the better.you cant follow all.

i have not read in the news where Hezbollah (you are derogatively referring to) has unleashed terror in the middle east.where? the only entity hezbollah has unleashed terror on,as found in its mission statements,is israel.and as we all know israel is an occupation force that is far from innocent.check wikipedia and read that the creation of hezbollah itself as a force against or a resistance movement was in reaction to israel's invasion of lebanon, up to the lebanese capital beirut,in 1982.

as far as those lebanese arrested are concern,read Justice Adetokunbo's verdict.none were hezbollah members,and only one was found guilty for arms found underneath his house in kano.and justice Adetokunbo clarified that belonging to hezbollah is not illlegal or a criminal offense in Nigeria as far the lebanese community is concerned,and in particular Lebanese Shia Muslims.hezbollah also happens to be a political party in lebanon with members in both parliament and government.

there is no evidence hezbollah killed hariri or is responsible for the former minister assassinated today.in the news i read,the group condemned the assassination,and evidence have emerged that it is a salafist affiliated group with alqaeda (ala boko haram) in lebanon that killed the minister,who happens to be a moderate sunni politician.your post stinks of ignorance.why do you waste my time? read first and comment later.
i knew you will reject my bitter true equation, but fact remain that the four i equated together dont malign sahabas, recognised the four caliphs, follow the same books unlike you shia that are totally misguided away from mainstream islam. Hezboshaytan is a terrorist oganisaction because am very aware of terrors they have committed in the past and in the present most especially in syria, where they are supporting criminal assad to continue to slaughter syrians especially sunnis who are majority in syria. So your effort to paint hezboyshaitan good is futile, we know what they are up to. You sound arrogant for saying my post is ignorant, if you think am wasting your time dont bother to respond to me again after all i dont force you to respond to me

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:42pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
i knew you will reject my bitter true equation, but fact remain that the four i equated together dont malign sahabas, recognised the four caliphs, follow the same books unlike you shia that are totally misguided away from mainstream islam. Hezboshaytan is a terrorist oganisaction because am very aware of terrors they have committed in the past and in the present most especially in syria, where they are supporting criminal assad to continue to slaughter syrians especially sunnis who are majority in syria. So your effort to paint hezboyshaitan good is futile, we know what they are up to. You sound arrogant for saying my post is ignorant, if you think am wasting your time dont bother to respond to me again after all i dont force you to respond to me

ok,

so when has rejecting your 3 tyrants amount to becoming a disbeliever?

as for hezbollah supporting assad,your saudi arabia has exported wahhabi terrorists into syria with the support of turkey,qatar and the west.assad is the legitimate president of syria.foreigners from saudi arabia calling themselves "jihadists" have no role to play in syria's political landscape by spreading terror.majority of syrians support their president.arab sunnis make up 50% of syria.half of them back assad,while another half oppose.the majority of assad's army is sunni.so?
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by opeyemi2013: 10:44pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia: Al-Azhar Sunni Sheikh: Shia are Muslims and Salafists are extremists:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF68my1oQXM
yes i knew sufism and shia have something in common which is bidiah.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:47pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
yes i knew sufism and shia have something in common which is bidiah.

so what makes you call the sheikh a sufi?

truth is all muslims have something in common.only wahhabis/salafists have nothing in common with muslims because they dont follow what Islam states in upholding the sanctity of the human soul.criminality is not part of Islam.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Stalwert: 10:50pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia:

dont force getting flogged again,Vedaxcool.

you talk too much nonsense and baseless imaginations encapsulated with insults to express your beliefs.

your desperate attempt,instead of condemning the problem,is to put the Shia and your bloodthirsty wahhabis/salafists in the same boat.it doesnt work that way.your wet dream that iran sponsors alqaeda has not being established once by iran's staunchest enemies and rivals.how can your "islamists" friends accept help from Shia Iran?

but just in case you are so dumb and wahhabic,are you not ashamed that your wahhabi heroes in alqaeda are sponsored by the Shia whom you refer to as "grave-worshippers"? where is your principle of "eliminating" disbelief and killing the "idolater" Shias who "worship" graves?

iran and the west have a longstanding history of political rivalry and enmity.iran doesnt go about bombing churches packed with innocent christian worshippers because Bush is an evangelical christian,like your boko haram does against innocent christian worshippers.get real.


Notice the munifqoon has finally distanced himself from the West, the same West that is realising Salafist are terrorist no longer know what they are talking about when it comes to Iran and Hezbollah. The above response is clearly a classical display of HYPOCRISY, now we see that because he has quoted the WEST as credible source for defining who is a terrorist, he now turns his back at the same WEST that Labels iran a TERROR SPONSORING STATE!

I MOVE FURTHER THIS REMAINS UNANSWERED,

Stalwert: grin grin

[size=28pt] Lagiosshia Invoke Allah curse upon yourself if your statement that Salafist do not condemn terror acts and suicide bombing against civilians. I dare you to do so, and if you fail to do so, you are a dammed Liar and Hypocrite! [/size]

WE WEAIT TO SEE WHETHER THIS HYPORITE CAN SAVE HIMSELF FROM BEING BRANDED A LIAR!
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:01pm On Dec 27, 2013
Stalwert:


Notice the munifqoon has finally distanced himself from the West, the same West that is realising Salafist are terrorist no longer know what they are talking about when it comes to Iran and Hezbollah. The above response is clearly a classical display of HYPOCRISY, now we see that because he has quoted the WEST as credible source for defining who is a terrorist, he now turns his back at the same WEST that Labels iran a TERROR SPONSORING STATE!

i am not the one distancing myself.the west knows the truth.only that wahhabis/salafists are too dumb to see that they are just tools.the west used in afghanistan and now in syria.in syria,its a win-win situation for the west.assad and hezbollah are anti-israel.the salafists/wahhabis are terrorists that target western civilians.so two camps views by the west as threatening are fighting.the point is the wahhabis/salafists would keep shedding muslim blood even if that weakens islam and the muslims in general.its dumb! and this dumbness is deadly with an extremist ideology of killing everyone who doesnt adhere to a school of thought (i.e. the wahhabi/salafist school of thought).you may not understand how middle east politics unravel.


I MOVE FURTHER THIS REMAINS UNANSWERED,

WE WEAIT TO SEE WHETHER THIS HYPORITE CAN SAVE HIMSELF FROM BEING BRANDED A LIAR!

"I LagosShia invoke Allah curse upon myself if i am lying that Salafists/Wahhabis do not condemn terror acts and suicide bombing against Shia civilians in Shia mosques or christian civilians in churches".

and please do not bring me a literally blind,and an hypocrite from saudi arabia,calling himself "mufti of the kingdom",and a descendant of Ibn Abdul-Wahab (the founder of wahhabism),to tell us suicide bombers will go to hell.this hypocrite refers to the suicide bombers who target his saudi royal pay masters and their interests.otherwise,he is very much in tune with his "heroes" who blow themselves up killing the "disbelievers", "mushrikeen" and "rafidha".show me one instance of a Salafist/Wahhabi cleric condemning the thousands of suicide bombings in iraq targeting Shia pilgrims in holy sites.i have not come across one.all i come across are salafist/wahhabi fatwas permitting shedding the blood of those who dont believe as they do.i can bring you videos of wahhabi muftis who are paid by the saudi royalty.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Zhulfiqar1: 11:13pm On Dec 27, 2013
it looks like some people really dont understand that takfirism (religious edicts calling others "kuffar" and killing the "kuffar" on that premise ) and takfiri terror/killings are the core of the wahhabi/salafist ideology.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Stalwert: 11:32pm On Dec 27, 2013
^^^
of course you cannot play games with Allah

It seems the Liar and Hypocrite has rushed to bed because of his dubious, treacherous and dishonest nature, when a so called Muslim slanders other Muslims to promote his useless sect of grave worshipping and utterly senseless self flagellation cult, then one needs to ask what do u really worship when you pray? why is Lying your only means of preaching a senseless cult of self flagellation?

Please for those who are not used to Lagosshia lies, here are links about the so called salafist condemning terrorism,

https://www.nairaland.com/1496903/qaradawi-condemns-blasts-churches

https://www.nairaland.com/1553837/saudi-mufti-suicide-bombers-criminals
salafee-imam-visits-church
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/05/us-egypt-attack-brotherhood-idUSBRE9840HC20130905
http://www.islamopediaonline.org/news/muslim-brotherhood-condemns-attacks-against-coptic-christians-Egypt
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/74813.aspx


In recent years the Salafi methodology has wrongly come to be associated with the jihad of extremist groups and related groups that advocate the killing of innocent civilians.[citation needed] While some terrorists claim to be Salafi, these acts have consistently been strongly opposed by some Salafi scholars such as Muhammad Nasiruddin al-Albani, Muhammad ibn al Uthaymeen and Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz who had all issued fatawa (religious verdicts) forbidding suicide bombing declaring the act as being totally haram (forbidden).[7] [8] [9] [10]

Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz said with regards to suicide bombings:


" ...such an act is never correct because it is a form of killing oneself and Allāh subhanahu wa ta'ala says: 'And do not kill yourselves. [Sūrah al-Nisā 4:29]' And the prophet salAllahu 'aleihi wa selim said: 'Whoever kills himself by any means, he will be punished by it on the Day of Resurrection. [Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 670]' The person should rather strive and seek to guide them and if fighting is legalized and legislated, then he fights alongside the Muslims. If he’s then killed in this way, then Allāh is praised. But as for killing himself by booby-trapping his body with explosives, thereby killing others and himself, this is wrong and completely impermissible. Rather, he should fight with the Muslims only when fighting is legitimately legislated. As for the [suicidal] actions of (some of) the Palestinians, they are wrong and produce no benefit. Instead, it is compulsory upon them to call to Allāh by teaching, guiding, and advising and not by such actions as these."[76]

The groups and individuals that carry out terrorist attacks are regarded as being out of the fold of the methodology of the Salaf, misguided and deviant; chiefly erroneous "Qutubi jihadism" groups.

It has been noted that the Western association of Salafi ideology with violence stems from writings done "through the prism of security studies" that were published in the late 20th century, having persisted well into contemporary literature.[77] More recent attempts have been made by academics and scholars who challenge these major assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi

Many more and yes the Liar and Hypocrite Lagosshia can go to sleep knowing what he has invoked upon himself!

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by opeyemi2013: 11:38pm On Dec 27, 2013
LagosShia:

ok,

so when has rejecting your 3 tyrants amount to becoming a disbeliever?

as for hezbollah supporting assad,your saudi arabia has exported wahhabi terrorists into syria with the support of turkey,qatar and the west.assad is the legitimate president of syria.foreigners from saudi arabia calling themselves "jihadists" have no role to play in syria's political landscape by spreading terror.majority of syrians support their president.arab sunnis make up 50% of syria.half of them back assad,while another half oppose.the majority of assad's army is sunni.so?
hahaha so you can still waste your precious time to respond to me. Dont tell me you dont use your takiya to make false assertion that majority of syrians are supporting criminal assad. Criminal assad government is not legitimate government, since there is never any free and fair election since assad family has been suppressively ruling over syrians. Criminal assad took the government of brutal oppression from his father, who also massacred thousands of syrians during his time. Am begining to hate these shias more they always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis. I listening to a documentary program on bbc radio, which talked about the persecution of minority shias in south east asia especially indonesia and malysia. I had sympathy for them when i listened to the program but later come to the fact that they dont deserve our sympathy because shia hate us(sunni) to death, they are hypocrite and always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis example of it, is what is going on in syria, egypt and iraq.

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Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:51pm On Dec 27, 2013
you have not presented the evidence you should present.present evidence of salafists condemning the killings of innocent worshippers,be they christians or shias.the means of suicide bombing to kill "may be" wrong in their own religious understanding of legitimate means to kill those they regard as "disbelievers".but do they condemn the end,which is targeting of non-salafists? if the salafists/wahhabis use guns instead of suicide bombing, to kill Shia and Christian civilians,is that right?

and oh yes,they can issue veiled condemnation of suicide bombing (i.e. wahhabis blowing themselves,not condemning the killing of innocent Shias or christians),but yet the killing sprees against Shia and Christians continue.hypocrites!

i will treat your post and shred it!

Stalwert: ^^^
of course you cannot play games with Allah

of course i cannot,except if you have assumed the role of being "Allah".astaghfirullah! who made you Allah's spokesman? typical wahhabi mentality.


It seems the Liar and Hypocrite has rushed to bed because of his dubious, treacherous and dishonest nature, when a so called Muslim slanders other Muslims to promote his useless sect of grave worshipping and utterly senseless self flagellation cult, then one needs to ask what do u really worship when you pray? why is Lying your only means of preaching a senseless cult of self flagellation?

i am still awake.waiting for more nonsense from what you imagine to be Islam.


Please for those who are not used to Lagosshia lies, here are links about the so called salafist condemning terrorism,

https://www.nairaland.com/1496903/qaradawi-condemns-blasts-churches

" Qaradawi condemned the attacks on religious places, and warned that these kinds of attacks might spoil the social structure.
Stating that the bloodshed of Christians living in a Muslim country was “haram” (forbidden) in Islamic teaching, Qaradawi said that Islam absolutely rejected such attacks."

it is very easy to expose you.it is forbidden to shed the blood of christians living in a Muslim country,because the christians in qaradawi's definition of "muslim country" are regarded as "ahl dhimmi".what happens to christians not living the status of dhimmitude in non-muslim countries? what does qaradawi says about christians killed in Nigeria,which is not a muslim country? of course there is always a veiled condition when a salafist "condemns" terror, and killings of innocent civilians.

this is the same Qaradawi who passed a fatwa permitting the killing of anyone (Shias that is) who chant the slogan of "YA HUSSAIN"!!!


https://www.nairaland.com/1553837/saudi-mufti-suicide-bombers-criminals

suicide bombers in the arabian peninsula and yemen.what of those in iraq and pakistan targeting Shia? and those in nigeria targeting christians? i have already stated that these traders of religion (so called muftis) only pass fatwas to condemn what affects the interests of their saudi royal pay masters.


salafee-imam-visits-church
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/05/us-egypt-attack-brotherhood-idUSBRE9840HC20130905

the egyptian imam that visited a church is no salafist.stop lying.he is an al-azhar cleric (mainstream sunnis).salafists/wahhabis regard al-azhar as an institue promoting "disbelief".


http://www.islamopediaonline.org/news/muslim-brotherhood-condemns-attacks-against-coptic-christians-Egypt
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/74813.aspx

enforcing dhimmitude!


Many more and yes the Liar and Hypocrite Lagosshia can go to sleep knowing what he has invoked upon himself!

i dont feel offended.you are just blinded by ignorance and religious fervor.otherwise with the daily suicide bombings targeting Shias in Iraq and Pakistan,and christians in Nigeria,you dont need any evidence to be convinced.
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:57pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
hahaha so you can still waste your precious time to respond to me. Dont tell me you dont use your takiya to make false assertion that majority of syrians are supporting criminal assad. Criminal assad government is not legitimate government, since there is never any free and fair election since assad family has been suppressively ruling over syrians. Criminal assad took the government of brutal oppression from his father, who also massacred thousands of syrians during his time. Am begining to hate these shias more they always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis. I listening to a documentary program on bbc radio, which talked about the persecution of minority shias in south east asia especially indonesia and malysia. I had sympathy for them when i listened to the program but later come to the fact that they dont deserve our sympathy because shia hate us(sunni) to death, they are hypocrite and always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis example of it, is what is going on in syria, egypt and iraq.

take your free and fair elections to your wahhabi kingdom of saudi arabia,where an entire country is named after a family.at least syria has a parliament even though a one party state.it is far from perfect.but for someone who is a fan of saudi arabia to be asking for democracy in syria is utter hypocrisy of the highest order.imagine saudi arabia sending suicide bombers into syria to support "democracy".isnt that just crazy?
Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Rafidi: 12:08am On Dec 28, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
hahaha so you can still waste your precious time to respond to me. Dont tell me you dont use your takiya to make false assertion that majority of syrians are supporting criminal assad. Criminal assad government is not legitimate government, since there is never any free and fair election since assad family has been suppressively ruling over syrians. Criminal assad took the government of brutal oppression from his father, who also massacred thousands of syrians during his time. Am begining to hate these shias more they always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis. I listening to a documentary program on bbc radio, which talked about the persecution of minority shias in south east asia especially indonesia and malysia. I had sympathy for them when i listened to the program but later come to the fact that they dont deserve our sympathy because shia hate us(sunni) to death, they are hypocrite and always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis example of it, is what is going on in syria, egypt and iraq.

a Sunni army general in egypt made a coup against a salafist brotherhood president,and you are here hating on the Shia.egyptian sunnis got tired of a salafist led government in less than a year of electing morsi.dont lump sunnis into one basket and claim you are victims of Shia "hatred".you are wrong.

"A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims"
https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia

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