zebra: I've never been specific on engineering alone. Accounting/accountancy is another course to also talk about here. FYI, there are practical sessions in accountancy in the polytechnics in case u don't know. Have u also wondered why they have to do 1 year industrial training before completing the HND program?

destino24: Op, additional research just proved this whole topic wrongA Higher National Diploma (HND) is a higher education qualification of the United Kingdom.[1] A qualification of the same title is also offered in Malta,[2] Nigeria,[3] and some other countries with British ties. This qualification can be used to gain entry into universities at an advanced level, and is considered equivalent to the second year of a three year university degree course.

Edexcel describes an HND as "A vocational qualification, usually studied full-time, but can be studied part-time. It is roughly equivalent to the first two years of a 3 year degre (with honours), or to the Diploma of Higher Education".


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_National_Diploma

destino24: Op, additional research just proved this whole topic wrongA Higher National Diploma (HND) is a higher education qualification of the United Kingdom.[1] A qualification of the same title is also offered in Malta,[2] Nigeria,[3] and some other countries with British ties. This qualification can be used to gain entry into universities at an advanced level, and is considered equivalent to the second year of a three year university degree course.

Edexcel describes an HND as "A vocational qualification, usually studied full-time, but can be studied part-time. It is roughly equivalent to the first two years of a 3 year degre (with honours), or to the Diploma of Higher Education".


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_National_Diploma

destino24: Op, additional research just proved this whole topic wrongA Higher National Diploma (HND) is a higher education qualification of the United Kingdom.[1] A qualification of the same title is also offered in Malta,[2] Nigeria,[3] and some other countries with British ties. This qualification can be used to gain entry into universities at an advanced level, and is considered equivalent to the second year of a three year university degree course.

Edexcel describes an HND as "A vocational qualification, usually studied full-time, but can be studied part-time. It is roughly equivalent to the first two years of a 3 year degre (with honours), or to the Diploma of Higher Education".


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_National_Diploma

zebra: Nigeria doesn't run her HNWheregram that way. In Nigeria, HND is 4 academic years plus one year IT. Bsc is 4 academic years also. That is why the US accepts the nigerian HND as an equivalent of a BS degree. The UK does not accept it because of the name.

dejt4u:
God bless u brother..mr Zebra..i think we are done here or wat else??

zebra: Done with what? No body is saying that HND and Bsc are the same. U guys should take it easy and try to understand the issue raised. Nigerian HND is not like what u see in that link. In nigeria HND takes 4 academic years plus 1 year internship. The WES in the US evaluates certificates from other countries to determine their equivalence with the US BS Degrees. Some Nigerian HND certificates have been evaluated and given the equivalence of a US BS Degree based on relevant credit units and some of them have been given admission for MS programs. If the US can recognize the Nigerian HND as equivalent to a US BS Degree, why can't nigeria do same? Mind u some Nigerian Bsc and HND results have been relegated by WES as not equivalent to a US BS Degree.

zebra: Done with what? No body is saying that HND and Bsc are the same. U guys should take it easy and try to understand the issue raised. Nigerian HND is not like what u see in that link. In nigeria HND takes 4 academic years plus 1 year internship. The WES in the US evaluates certificates from other countries to determine their equivalence with the US BS Degrees. Some Nigerian HND certificates have been evaluated and given the equivalence of a US BS Degree based on relevant credit units and some of them have been given admission for MS programs. If the US can recognize the Nigerian HND as equivalent to a US BS Degree, why can't nigeria do same? Mind u some Nigerian Bsc and HND results have been relegated by WES as not equivalent to a US BS Degree.

destino24:

Guy, answer the questions in my previous post, and please stop calling US here.
WE ARE NOT RUNNING THEIR SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dejt4u:
BTW which skul do u attend??

zebra: don't be rude pls. Let's discuss calmly with some form of respect for each other.

destino24:

Sorry if i sounded rude

destino24:

Sorry if i sounded rude

zebra: Well, i'm still wondering why/how poly HND graduates pass ICAN exams and other professional exams even before many varsity graduates.

zebra: Nigeria doesn't run her HND program that way. In Nigeria HND is 4 academic years plus one year IT. Bsc is 4 academic years also.

padeolu: point of correction, In Nigeria, HND is 2years.

zebra: Point of correction too, u don't go into HND program in nigeria with ssce and spend 2 yrs like the british do. U must have 2 yrs ND plus 1 yr internship to qualify u to do 2 yrs HND in nigeria which makes it 5 yrs. There is a difference in the UK and nigerian HND system. The ND is just like an associate degree in the US also.

zutu: B engr all the way!! I hate poly with passion.

#bizfirst#:
Nigerians are always confused and are found of attaching value where an exists! To the best of my knowledge, polytechnic graduates beat there university counterparts in vocational and technical courses. The universities should even be proud they are equated to polytechnics...SMH!

#bizfirst#:
Nigerians are always confused and are found of attaching value where none exists! To the best of my knowledge, polytechnic graduates beat there university counterparts in vocational and technical courses. The universities should even be proud they are equated to polytechnics...SMH!

zebra: Please, if World Educational Services (WES), a US educational evaluation agency could evaluate a Nigerian HND certificate and say it is equivalent to a 4-year Bsc Degree, what then is the problem of Nigeria and Nigerians? Many HND holders have had their transcripts evaluated by WES and the outcomes have been that the Nigerian HND is equivalent to a Bsc Degree. What then is making Nigeria to still discriminate against Nigerian HND holders? Try evaluating ur Bsc or HND certificate with www.wes.org and see. Or, is it that they don't know what they are doing?

destino24: Maybe in another profession but in Engineering, its a NO!

The kind maths wey we solve for first year, dem dey do am for final year